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Feb 19, 2012 8:28 AM
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I'm not sure of there's a topic like this yet, if there is feel free to lock this. Is there any anime character that you believe to be overrated, underrated, or even misunderstood? One that comes to mind for overrated is Mio from K-On! Honestly, she's a cool character and all but I don't understand why she gets all that much praise. I've never noticed anything that appealing about her to be honest. Haruhi and Ami Kawashima are misunderstood, too. People judge Haruhi Suzumiya off of the anime when they haven't even bothered to read the light novels, where she does undergo character development. Same with Ami. I admit - she was a brat in the beginning and if you check out the Toradora! episodes on YouTube, I commented on each one with her in it about how much I hated her, but she turned out to be an amazing information broker and an all out great character. What are your thoughts on these type of characters? |
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Feb 19, 2012 9:26 AM
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I have to agree on Haruhi being misunderstood, she's not that bad at all. Mio is slightly overrated, but I say that only because I prefer Azu-nyan :3. There are plenty other characters that are overrated for making simple actions, underrated for not being known or that their actions are just misunderstood. As overrated, I could easily name Naruto and Ichigo for that, because they feel just... Average, a bit too cliche. I also think that (Clannad fans, please don't kill me now) Nagisa is slightly overrated. I found the story to be quite emotional and such, but I liked Kyou and Tomoyo better than her, they felt more lively, having good things and flaws, while Nagisa was pretty much perfect. As for misunderstood, there is Yagami Light Many people hate Light and think that the ending was fitting because he killed L and became evil, but his ideals were just flawless, and he just wanted to do everything to suceed, at no matter what the cost. For me he will always be a martyr, even if I really liked L as well. And Victorique de Blois First of all, a lot of people hate her right away because they say she's a "loli tsundere" and that's pretty wrong. They don't even care to look into her personality, her past, what she suffered, and so. There's a great romance behind Gosick, and I don't get it why people hate her for such a simple reason. Ah, and as an note, I somehow feel that people will start saying that Kuroi Mato/BRS is overrated soon. |
「レミ咲が今日のティータイム。」- RemiSaku ga kyou no tea time! |
Feb 19, 2012 9:30 AM
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ib4 Lelouch |
Feb 19, 2012 9:50 AM
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grandy_UiD said: ib4 Lelouch Lol this, and also Suzaku. |
Feb 19, 2012 9:53 AM
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SilentMelodies said: People judge Haruhi Suzumiya off of the anime when they haven't even bothered to read the light novels, where she does undergo character development. So basically I shouldn't even bother with the anime? Good to know. As for Ami, I'll admit she was my least favorite character in Toradora. She never really warmed up to me. The only reason I can't give an honest opinion on her is cause I was in the corner with Ryuuji trying to figure out what the heck she's talking about half the time. Like what the heck she was saying that set Minori off during the ski trip. |
Feb 19, 2012 10:24 AM
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SilentMelodies said: Haruhi and Ami Kawashima are misunderstood, too. People judge Haruhi Suzumiya off of the anime when they haven't even bothered to read the light novels, where she does undergo character development. Same with Ami. I admit - she was a brat in the beginning and if you check out the Toradora! episodes on YouTube, I commented on each one with her in it about how much I hated her, but she turned out to be an amazing information broker and an all out great character. What are your thoughts on these type of characters? If you feel they're missunderstood, fine, but people have every right to judge a character based on what they see. Why should they 'bother' to delve into every project that particular character has been in such as; light novel/manga? If somebody is content simply watching an anime, that's their business and they have every right to judge a character on the anime productions portrayal, even if the character has been underdeveloped or flanderized - which occurs often. E.g. In FMA season one, I disslike Alphonse, yet in the manga and brotherhood, I like him, I also love Izumi in the original story, yet not in season one - the first anime took both off course, yet nobody has to view the alternate portrayal of them. When it comes to your second point about the character who was unpleasant at first but became likable, then doesn't this simply mean the character changed? If so, this is something a writer can pull any time; unless it's obvious everything was a missunderstanding - their is no reason to feel you missjudged the character. |
Feb 19, 2012 10:44 AM
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Lelouch Lamperouge is a 'touch' overrated .A psychotic tantrum throwing, overly prideful jerk. There, I just summarized up his entire character, You want to know something too? He's always been unstable. That's why what happens to him is so disproportionate to what he does. That's why I can't understand why people even like him. Adair said: grandy_UiD said: ib4 Lelouch Lol this, and also Suzaku. And here I thought I was the only one that didn't see him as some uber epic messiah. Wow. I'm surprised. |
Feb 19, 2012 10:51 AM
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Hitagi Senjougahara and Holo are overrated. I enjoyed their respective series and even the heroines themselves, but they are not saturated with wit as people claim them to be. Sometimes I even found them annoying. On the otherhand, Paul von Oberstein from LOGH is underrated. Most people pick one of either Reinhard or Yang, which is commendable, obvious even. I did hate Oberstein at the beginning as most people did, but by the end he was one of my favorite characters. He just believes that the end will justify the means. I loved it when one of the characters said that he couldn't argue with Oberstein because his arguments are so right. |
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Feb 19, 2012 5:10 PM
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Angel from The Big O was a pissy little brat. I wish I'd never dealt with her and that's potentially one of the reasons why I hate this anime. |
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Feb 19, 2012 5:15 PM
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Sekai - School Days - Underrated She gets so much hate, especially from all the Kotonoha fans(Of which there are many). She made a single mistake in the whole series really which all stemmed from her not confessing her own feelings but I can understand why she did what she did. Think about it, you couldnt just ask someone you like out and expect to be accepted, she put herself in a position where she could get to know him and vice versa before she could decide whether to make a move. She simply did what many girls would do to avoid rejection yet she gets so much hate. Besides, the one thing that overturns all hate is the fact she was the one who got to stab Makoto as most people were really hoping he would get his comeuppance which I'm certain Kotonoha would not have done. At least it made for a satisfying conclusion that way. Hate all you like but I've always felt that Sekai got alot of unjustified hate whereas Kotonoha was placed on a saint's pedestal. |
Feb 19, 2012 5:25 PM
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Feb 19, 2012 5:36 PM
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Morbyllan said: And Victorique de Blois First of all, a lot of people hate her right away because they say she's a "loli tsundere" and that's pretty wrong. They don't even care to look into her personality, her past, what she suffered, and so. There's a great romance behind Gosick, and I don't get it why people hate her for such a simple reason. . How come that her being a "loli tsundere" is wrong just because of her past? you are just giving a reason to why she is a "loli tsundere", knowing the reason doesnt change the fact of what she is. She's pretty idiot for someone who's supposed to be a genius imo. |
Feb 19, 2012 5:50 PM
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Overrated: 1. Kotonoha(School Days): The only reason why people loves her is because she just a psycho murderer. Hell, psycho murderers as cool characters is not new in the West. Just look how big Freddy Krueger and Jason Vorhees fanbases are. 2. Haruhi Fujioka(Ouran): I already tell everyone why I hated this thing(calling her as "bitch" is still too nice) but let me explain much further. The only reasons why she was loved by millions of Ouran fangirls just because she's an asexual(as confirmed by Bisco Hattori herself) so she will not going to ends up with any guys in the show(although most fans like to pair her with Tamaki) and fanboys(yes there are boys watching that show) love her too because she never cry or do things which 99% of shoujo heroines always did. I also have no idea of purpose of the show. All she did is stay idle and 99% of the jokes(if can be counted as) are did by Tamaki and his buttbuddies. 3. Nami(One Piece): While I don't have any grudge towards her but I think she just a stereotypical "naughty" girl and I'm surprised that alone propels large portion of her fanbase. 4. Sasuke(Naruto): Do I need to explain this? Underrated: 1. Makoto(School Days): While technically more "overhated" than "underrated" but I just think he got lots of hatedom he didn't deserve in first place. Don't get me wrong, I hated him but at same reason people hating him for very immature reasons(he sleeps with lots of girls, etc) but what makes me to defend him that large portion of his hatedom actually came from Kotonoha fans who wants to cover her flaws by hating him. 2. Nao(Yosuga no Sora): This one bugs me most because 99% of her haters are actually YnS fans, especially HaruxSora shippers. She's not slutty as most people believed. |
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Feb 19, 2012 5:53 PM
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OriginANIME said: LOOOOOOOL. +1 to you.Makoto from School Days. All he did was have sex with 10+ girls and cheat on his girlfriend several times. Is that really that bad? Did he really deserve what happened to him on the the last episode? <img src="http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ldp3yyI6tu1qb9a2wo1_500.png" /> Riptos said: Felt the exact same way.Sekai - School Days - Underrated She gets so much hate, especially from all the Kotonoha fans(Of which there are many). She made a single mistake in the whole series really which all stemmed from her not confessing her own feelings but I can understand why she did what she did. Think about it, you couldnt just ask someone you like out and expect to be accepted, she put herself in a position where she could get to know him and vice versa before she could decide whether to make a move. She simply did what many girls would do to avoid rejection yet she gets so much hate. Besides, the one thing that overturns all hate is the fact she was the one who got to stab Makoto as most people were really hoping he would get his comeuppance which I'm certain Kotonoha would not have done. At least it made for a satisfying conclusion that way. Hate all you like but I've always felt that Sekai got alot of unjustified hate whereas Kotonoha was placed on a saint's pedestal. |
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Feb 19, 2012 6:32 PM
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Ouma Shu, he can't help being a spineless coward who constantly makes asinine decisions. It's not his fault that he's attracted to an apathetic sex toy, nor his borderline incestuous habits. He exemplifies and provides the perfect archetype for a shit character, he should be regarded as such. Find a better combination of mediocrity. Same with Inori, it's not her fault that's she an apathetic glutton for fan-service. Deep down underneath the layers of shit character is probably a cool person. |
Feb 19, 2012 6:53 PM
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Riptos said: Sekai - School Days - Underrated She gets so much hate, especially from all the Kotonoha fans(Of which there are many). She made a single mistake in the whole series really which all stemmed from her not confessing her own feelings but I can understand why she did what she did. Think about it, you couldnt just ask someone you like out and expect to be accepted, she put herself in a position where she could get to know him and vice versa before she could decide whether to make a move. She simply did what many girls would do to avoid rejection yet she gets so much hate. Besides, the one thing that overturns all hate is the fact she was the one who got to stab Makoto as most people were really hoping he would get his comeuppance which I'm certain Kotonoha would not have done. At least it made for a satisfying conclusion that way. Hate all you like but I've always felt that Sekai got alot of unjustified hate whereas Kotonoha was placed on a saint's pedestal. My avatar whole heartedly agrees |
Feb 19, 2012 7:17 PM
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Queen_Stars said: SilentMelodies said: Haruhi and Ami Kawashima are misunderstood, too. People judge Haruhi Suzumiya off of the anime when they haven't even bothered to read the light novels, where she does undergo character development. Same with Ami. I admit - she was a brat in the beginning and if you check out the Toradora! episodes on YouTube, I commented on each one with her in it about how much I hated her, but she turned out to be an amazing information broker and an all out great character. What are your thoughts on these type of characters? If you feel they're missunderstood, fine, but people have every right to judge a character based on what they see. Why should they 'bother' to delve into every project that particular character has been in such as; light novel/manga? If somebody is content simply watching an anime, that's their business and they have every right to judge a character on the anime productions portrayal, even if the character has been underdeveloped or flanderized - which occurs often. E.g. In FMA season one, I disslike Alphonse, yet in the manga and brotherhood, I like him, I also love Izumi in the original story, yet not in season one - the first anime took both off course, yet nobody has to view the alternate portrayal of them. When it comes to your second point about the character who was unpleasant at first but became likable, then doesn't this simply mean the character changed? If so, this is something a writer can pull any time; unless it's obvious everything was a missunderstanding - their is no reason to feel you missjudged the character. You have a good point there. Being someone who's read the light novels, I just feel it's pretty unjustified for her to be so judged. I completely understand why people can and do hate her, I just feel she's too misunderstood in the anime. If the other light novels were to be animated, I think people may get a different approach on her. That's just me, though. Yes, she did change - but I've talked to people who don't believe that and still hold her past actions against her. I'll admit - Ami was a total bitch and I couldn't stand her in a big part of Toradora!, but you can't deny that she sort of let go of that side of her and attempted to get on better terms with Taiga and everyone else. Yet there are people who still believe her to be a bitch and a slut, which is why I feel she's misunderstood. |
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Feb 19, 2012 8:51 PM
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Vanisher said: How come that her being a "loli tsundere" is wrong just because of her past? you are just giving a reason to why she is a "loli tsundere", knowing the reason doesnt change the fact of what she is. She's pretty idiot for someone who's supposed to be a genius imo. I failed to fully express my point there. I meant to say that most people just say "she's a loli tsundere, and because of that I hate her." Or to correct my phrase, "that's pretty wrong, hating her just because she's a tsundere. I don't care if you hate her, just give good reasons to do so, not just the easiest one that comes to your mind" And with her past I meant that she's at least "likeable" if you try to understand her point of view. |
「レミ咲が今日のティータイム。」- RemiSaku ga kyou no tea time! |
Feb 19, 2012 8:54 PM
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Morbyllan said: I beg to differ.Nagisa was pretty much perfect. |
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Feb 19, 2012 9:25 PM
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Feb 19, 2012 10:04 PM
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Primity said: Fate series' Saber is really overrated I think. she's a cool character and all but seriously, 4600 member favorites? Have to agree on that. There are many characters in the Fate series as good as Saber if not better. Well she's only overrated on MAL though. I think Gasai Yuno is really overrated. Seriously over 1800 favorites already? |
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Feb 19, 2012 10:11 PM
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Feb 19, 2012 11:14 PM
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Vanisher said: How come that her being a "loli tsundere" is wrong just because of her past? you are just giving a reason to why she is a "loli tsundere", knowing the reason doesnt change the fact of what she is. She's pretty idiot for someone who's supposed to be a genius imo. The fact is, she's no tsundere. |
Feb 20, 2012 2:58 AM
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grandy_UiD said: Vanisher said: How come that her being a "loli tsundere" is wrong just because of her past? you are just giving a reason to why she is a "loli tsundere", knowing the reason doesnt change the fact of what she is. She's pretty idiot for someone who's supposed to be a genius imo. The fact is, she's no tsundere. That wasn't exactly my point, though i do believe she is kinda tsundere in a lot of scenes. ON: i think rena from higurashi is pretty overrated. |
Feb 20, 2012 7:49 AM
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Overrated: Len and Rin Kagamine (Vocaloid) I see them as nothing but fanservice vehicles for the loli/shota crowd. Their voice banks aren't even all that impressive on their own. There's probably only a few songs that I like that uses those programs. Misunderstood: Shinji Ikari (Neon Genesis Evangelion) I will stand by this opinion until the day I die. Everyone calls Shinji a wimp, one without cojones, etc., but how would you feel if the first 14 years of your life was shallow, troubled, and fruitless and, all of the sudden, your manipulative bastard of a father suddenly wants you to put your life on the line for something you don't fully understand? Underrated: Ginko (Mushishi) Ginko is one of the things that makes Mushishi great. For a show with that much praise, I often don't hear people talking about him. |
Feb 20, 2012 9:09 AM
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Overrated: Any character with over 1,000+ favorites Lelouch, L, Haruhi, Konata,etc.... Misunderstood: Rolo from Code Geass its like people were not paying attention at the beginning of episode 4, 14, and 19. Then decided to tag him as a heartless bastard without looking at his past and why he is the way he is. Its not his fault its the geass cult and Lelouch being a douche and not just accepting him that lead to the events of episode 13. So if you are going to blame anyone for that scene blame those two and you know which chick for being a fucking dumbass for going into an empty mall with a suspected terrorist in it. So she was just begging to be shot and killed like the pathetic piss ant she was. I would go on, but it is hard typing on a laptop instead of my usual computer's keyboard and the comp I'm usually on screwed itself over again. -_- underrated: The girls from Katekyo Hitman Reborn (except ris) loved them all sucks they are hated more than loved. Sure most of them do not fight, but they are not useless they are great normal supporting characters. Any character that has below 1,000 favorites on here |
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Feb 20, 2012 9:38 AM
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Emiya Shirou is a misunderstood character. People judge him off the horrible deen anime adaptation, which turned him into trash. All the complexity of his character is taken away. |
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Feb 20, 2012 6:17 PM
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Edefrem said: Morbyllan said: I beg to differ.Nagisa was pretty much perfect. I also beg to differ, I was going to put a post on her at some point as well. Nagisa - Clannad - Over Rated Now I loved Clannad I really did. For a time it was my favourite anime as I hadn't seen many of it's type at all when it came out. But out of all the characters I found her to be drab and boring in comparison to pretty much all of the other girls. The appeal to her was that she was the sick frail girl which to some it seems, is the pull. I personally dont see the pull in that to even have a relationship with let alone a family. It's like Tomoya went in there expecting there to be problems of which they were many. Even the romance that was there at the end of the first season seemed rushed. It went from "Try your best!" to "I Love you" in the space of like 10 minutes which I felt was horrendous. Especially to the girls that had been given better arcs and just generally had better chemistry. That's pretty much all of them with the exception of maybe Yukine. This is probably the main reason I wasn't moved by After Story, I dont see it as the bee all and end all of it's genre, It never evoked a response from me at all. Not even when Ushio died and she really was adorable (I have a girl the same age) but even that didn't do it for me at all. I love a sad story but the character of Nagisa just never sold me at all. Of course it's all opinion but it just confuses me as to how so many people think Nagisa is the perfect match for Tomoya lol. |
Feb 20, 2012 7:05 PM
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Roloko said: Misunderstood: Rolo from Code Geass its like people were not paying attention at the beginning of episode 4, 14, and 19. Then decided to tag him as a heartless bastard without looking at his past and why he is the way he is. Its not his fault its the geass cult and Lelouch being a douche and not just accepting him that lead to the events of episode 13. So if you are going to blame anyone for that scene blame those two and you know which chick for being a fucking dumbass for going into an empty mall with a suspected terrorist in it. So she was just begging to be shot and killed like the pathetic piss ant she was. I would go on, but it is hard typing on a laptop instead of my usual computer's keyboard and the comp I'm usually on screwed itself over again. -_- Victim blame at its best. Remind me to call you in as a defense witness in case they catch me trying to do something bad to some girl in an empty mall. Lucena: I fully agree with you about Shinji; perhaps his personality gets in the way of the action and prevents people from seeing manly battle after manly battle. I cannot explain the hostility any other way, because his behavior is entirely justified and is one of the main points of the anime. As for Ginko, is he really underrated? He is pretty popular here on MAL (he is one of my favorite characters as well). |
Feb 20, 2012 8:34 PM
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Riptos said: Edefrem said: Morbyllan said: I beg to differ.Nagisa was pretty much perfect. I also beg to differ, I was going to put a post on her at some point as well. Nagisa - Clannad - Over Rated Now I loved Clannad I really did. For a time it was my favourite anime as I hadn't seen many of it's type at all when it came out. But out of all the characters I found her to be drab and boring in comparison to pretty much all of the other girls. The appeal to her was that she was the sick frail girl which to some it seems, is the pull. I personally dont see the pull in that to even have a relationship with let alone a family. It's like Tomoya went in there expecting there to be problems of which they were many. Even the romance that was there at the end of the first season seemed rushed. It went from "Try your best!" to "I Love you" in the space of like 10 minutes which I felt was horrendous. Especially to the girls that had been given better arcs and just generally had better chemistry. That's pretty much all of them with the exception of maybe Yukine. This is probably the main reason I wasn't moved by After Story, I dont see it as the bee all and end all of it's genre, It never evoked a response from me at all. Not even when Ushio died and she really was adorable (I have a girl the same age) but even that didn't do it for me at all. I love a sad story but the character of Nagisa just never sold me at all. Of course it's all opinion but it just confuses me as to how so many people think Nagisa is the perfect match for Tomoya lol. I can understand you two disagreeing with what I said. While I like Kyou and Tomoyo way better "Nagisa is pretty much perfect... for most men." Even if she's definitely not my type, that's what I gather from most people's comment I've seen around here. I can't see Nagisa as Tomoya's perfect match either. I think that the girl that fits him most is Kyou, as the story had more pottential if it followed with her for real, like Another World gave us a taste (the gap that their relationship creates between Kyou and Ryou, etc). That's at least for his personality. But to keep things making sense, he should at least have chosen his childhood friend, Kotomi, not the girl he just met... |
「レミ咲が今日のティータイム。」- RemiSaku ga kyou no tea time! |
Feb 20, 2012 10:45 PM
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Overrated: Kamina from Gurren Lagann: you shouldn't get that much praise for only being in a show for only a couple of eps I was glad he died Most characters from Naruto: not explanation there Underrated: Sekai from School Days: Without her that show would not exist. Hell Girl: for some reason she never gets any respect for ferrying thousands of souls to Hell for a couple hundred years and still be sane. |
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Feb 20, 2012 10:50 PM
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Feb 21, 2012 2:48 AM
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Ragna92 said: Emiya Shirou is a misunderstood character. People judge him off the horrible deen anime adaptation, which turned him into trash. All the complexity of his character is taken away. YES, THANK YOU. I was hoping that someone would say Shirou here. I legitimately think he's one of the most complex and best protagonists I have ever seen, since the entirety of the VN is basically Shirou's Character Development: The Visual Novel and I am so sad that people judge him based on the anime. But, I shouldn't be mad at them. I watched the anime first too, and I hated Shirou. Yeah, people love to harp on him for being stupid, but he really isn't. He does think about his actions, and yes, his reasoning actually does make sense, logically at least. So, why does he do all this "stupid" stuff, repeatedly, even after being told how much of an idiot he's being, multiple, multiple times? Shirou is pretty much fundamentally broken and has an incredibly flawed and unhealthy perception of his "role" in the world. He's self-sacrificing to the point of being self-destructive, because he honestly has zero sense of self-worth. His only way to find "happiness" is through serving others, saving others, sacrificing for others, even if the price is himself, his possessions (everyone can stay at my place!), his own life if need be. Him throwing himself in front of death - repeatedly - is okay, if it's done for the sake of helping someone else, because his own life doesn't matter. It's taking what is generally considered a good trait - being self-sacrificing, being helpful - to an extreme that is just...not right. Not human. And he knows this. Everyone knows this. Everyone tells him this. Him battling with it? Him getting over it? It's the entire point of Fate/stay night. |
Feb 21, 2012 4:47 AM
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Most people consider Sunohara to be "annoying" , yet they never look at his perspective. |
Feb 21, 2012 6:47 AM
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Underrated: Arcueid Brunestud - I think she is a terrific character. I love how she has a cheerful almost easy-going personality despite being what she is what she has been through and her current situation. And it is not stupidity. She is just interesting that way. Overrated: L Lawliet - I don't fully understand why people like L so much. So he is super intelligent and he has some amusing personality quirks and habits. But the dude has no visible philosophy and he does the things he does, not out of some strong sense of justice, but simply to amuse himself. He doesn't use his gifts in any real positive way. He's actually kind of a jerk. Misunderstood: I can't really think of any. The one person who comes closest that I can think of has to be Light (maybe Lulu too). I think the vast majority of people at least understand him though. Maybe not a few of his actions, but his character as a whole I think a great majority understand him. |
Feb 21, 2012 8:24 AM
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n10sity said: Underrated: Arcueid Brunestud - I think she is a terrific character. I love how she has a cheerful almost easy-going personality despite being what she is what she has been through and her current situation. And it is not stupidity. She is just interesting that way. Overrated: L Lawliet - I don't fully understand why people like L so much. So he is super intelligent and he has some amusing personality quirks and habits. But the dude has no visible philosophy and he does the things he does, not out of some strong sense of justice, but simply to amuse himself. He doesn't use his gifts in any real positive way. He's actually kind of a jerk. Misunderstood: I can't really think of any. The one person who comes closest that I can think of has to be Light (maybe Lulu too). I think the vast majority of people at least understand him though. Maybe not a few of his actions, but his character as a whole I think a great majority understand him. Arcuied is not underrated. She's a visual novel character and VN characters aren't really popular on MAL. Look at Akiha, Kohaku, Hisui, and Ciel. |
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Feb 21, 2012 8:30 AM
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hentai_proxy said: Victim blame at its best. Remind me to call you in as a defense witness in case they catch me trying to do something bad to some girl in an empty mall. I will represent you well bro. You will get off with nothing guaranteed. =D |
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Feb 22, 2012 4:11 AM
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Any yandere girls(and some boys) are overrated. Mentality-wise, their just childish as "I can't get it and you die!". MissileSoup said: And the Yandere nonsense. I love you... |
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Feb 22, 2012 5:42 AM
#39
Overrated: Tachibana Kanade. She was cute, but that's all. There's nothing more to her character other than being cutie and clumsy. Misunderstood: I agree with someone who said Sekai from School Days in the first page. I'll add Sonozaki Shion from Higurashi as well. Everyone only sees her as "the yandere twin" like if this is the only thing to her character. It's even stupid to love her because she's "yandere". And actually, in fact, she was just "yandere" during one arc because she was infected by a disease. Saying she's yandere all the time it'ss the same as saying Rena is a crazy psycho all the time - it was a disease that amplified their most intense feelings and made them do terrible things. Actually, she's a very strong and passionate character, who went through a lot of pain, just like most of the characters in Higurashi, but no one never sees past the acts in her arc because it was the most bloody. It's upsetting when people see Shion in my favorites list and say "Yeah, going insane an torturing people? No thanks", because this is not the reason why I like her. Rewatch Higurashi Kai. She was amazing there. Also, Sakura Kyouko from Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. She seems to be the least popular out of all the girls and I just can't understand why. She's both underrated and misunderstood. Kyouko went through a tragic past and was left alone in the world, yet she still found strenght to fight for herself, which is why she seems so selfsh and bland. But them, as she starts to relate with the other girls, her soft side comes up. She realizes she's not alone anymore and don't have to fight on her own, for her own sake. She also fights for her friends and never stops being a badass. Underrated: I'd say Akio from Clannad. I see everybody making a fuss about Kotomi, Nagisa, Tomoyo, but Akio was my favorite character from the series. He's a respectable man that holds a very strong love for his family and would do anything for the sake of them. Best anime dad ever. And Anarchy Panty from Panty & Stocking with Garterbelt. I say this because Stocking is the most popular one (even I have a soft spot for her - she's the one on my favorites) and because of this Panty is often underappreciated. She's really fun to watch and even get a little development near the end, which would be odd for a show like PSG. I wish I could fit her on my favorites list along with Stocking... |
Feb 22, 2012 8:50 AM
#40
Taiga is the most overrated character ever. She's just another standard tsundere |
Feb 22, 2012 8:53 AM
#41
bebe14 said: Taiga is the most overrated character ever. She's just another standard tsundere She isnt, a standard Tsundere is just violent for the sake of being violent and doesnt evolve at all. (Case and point: Louise) Taiga does change and you can hardly call her a "Standard Tsundere" by the end of Toradora! |
Feb 22, 2012 12:47 PM
#42
Riptos said: bebe14 said: Taiga is the most overrated character ever. She's just another standard tsundere She isnt, a standard Tsundere is just violent for the sake of being violent and doesnt evolve at all. (Case and point: Louise) Taiga does change and you can hardly call her a "Standard Tsundere" by the end of Toradora! Tsundere does evolve which is why the "dere" part is there. |
Feb 22, 2012 12:54 PM
#43
NK_500 said: 2. The only reasons why she was loved by millions of Ouran fangirls just because she's an asexual(as confirmed by Bisco Hattori herself) so she will not going to ends up with any guys in the show you do realize she does end up with someone at the end of the manga right? and its not hinted they legitimently get together and stay together Paranoia_Stapler said: wait people consider sunohora annoying.....most people i talk to say hes one of the best comic relief characters out there then just like him more after his 3 episode arc in after storyMost people consider Sunohara to be "annoying" , yet they never look at his perspective. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Feb 22, 2012 1:06 PM
#44
ppizzapie said: Even though I never played the VN, I could tell just by the anime.Ragna92 said: Emiya Shirou is a misunderstood character. People judge him off the horrible deen anime adaptation, which turned him into trash. All the complexity of his character is taken away. YES, THANK YOU. I was hoping that someone would say Shirou here. I legitimately think he's one of the most complex and best protagonists I have ever seen, since the entirety of the VN is basically Shirou's Character Development: The Visual Novel and I am so sad that people judge him based on the anime. But, I shouldn't be mad at them. I watched the anime first too, and I hated Shirou. Yeah, people love to harp on him for being stupid, but he really isn't. He does think about his actions, and yes, his reasoning actually does make sense, logically at least. So, why does he do all this "stupid" stuff, repeatedly, even after being told how much of an idiot he's being, multiple, multiple times? Shirou is pretty much fundamentally broken and has an incredibly flawed and unhealthy perception of his "role" in the world. He's self-sacrificing to the point of being self-destructive, because he honestly has zero sense of self-worth. His only way to find "happiness" is through serving others, saving others, sacrificing for others, even if the price is himself, his possessions (everyone can stay at my place!), his own life if need be. Him throwing himself in front of death - repeatedly - is okay, if it's done for the sake of helping someone else, because his own life doesn't matter. It's taking what is generally considered a good trait - being self-sacrificing, being helpful - to an extreme that is just...not right. Not human. And he knows this. Everyone knows this. Everyone tells him this. Him battling with it? Him getting over it? It's the entire point of Fate/stay night. So I get slightly annoyed when people keep disrespecting Shirou just because he seem like he lack balls, too naive, etc. In fact, in general, most wimpy characters are misunderstood. True, most anime have shitty character development especially in harem shows but there are shows focused on wimpy characters and their development... and people still ignore that. Yukiteru in Mirai Nikki is a case of point. hentai_proxy said: Couldn't agree more. By counterargument I say the first guy misunderstands Shirley. Yes, we know Rolo has a fucked up history, that by no means justify anything. Also, it was completely understandable why Lelouch could never accept him, he was a replacement to his true sibling, Nunally. And we all knew Lelouch had a sister complex going on there.Roloko said: Misunderstood: Rolo from Code Geass its like people were not paying attention at the beginning of episode 4, 14, and 19. Then decided to tag him as a heartless bastard without looking at his past and why he is the way he is. Its not his fault its the geass cult and Lelouch being a douche and not just accepting him that lead to the events of episode 13. So if you are going to blame anyone for that scene blame those two and you know which chick for being a fucking dumbass for going into an empty mall with a suspected terrorist in it. So she was just begging to be shot and killed like the pathetic piss ant she was. I would go on, but it is hard typing on a laptop instead of my usual computer's keyboard and the comp I'm usually on screwed itself over again. -_- Victim blame at its best. Remind me to call you in as a defense witness in case they catch me trying to do something bad to some girl in an empty mall. People seem to hate on Shirley just because she come off annoying or stupid or something. And wanted her to die. Wtf people. |
Feb 22, 2012 1:08 PM
#45
Tachii said: plus rolo kinda killed someone closed to him that really sent him off the deep endppizzapie said: Even though I never played the VN, I could tell just by the anime.Ragna92 said: Emiya Shirou is a misunderstood character. People judge him off the horrible deen anime adaptation, which turned him into trash. All the complexity of his character is taken away. YES, THANK YOU. I was hoping that someone would say Shirou here. I legitimately think he's one of the most complex and best protagonists I have ever seen, since the entirety of the VN is basically Shirou's Character Development: The Visual Novel and I am so sad that people judge him based on the anime. But, I shouldn't be mad at them. I watched the anime first too, and I hated Shirou. Yeah, people love to harp on him for being stupid, but he really isn't. He does think about his actions, and yes, his reasoning actually does make sense, logically at least. So, why does he do all this "stupid" stuff, repeatedly, even after being told how much of an idiot he's being, multiple, multiple times? Shirou is pretty much fundamentally broken and has an incredibly flawed and unhealthy perception of his "role" in the world. He's self-sacrificing to the point of being self-destructive, because he honestly has zero sense of self-worth. His only way to find "happiness" is through serving others, saving others, sacrificing for others, even if the price is himself, his possessions (everyone can stay at my place!), his own life if need be. Him throwing himself in front of death - repeatedly - is okay, if it's done for the sake of helping someone else, because his own life doesn't matter. It's taking what is generally considered a good trait - being self-sacrificing, being helpful - to an extreme that is just...not right. Not human. And he knows this. Everyone knows this. Everyone tells him this. Him battling with it? Him getting over it? It's the entire point of Fate/stay night. So I get slightly annoyed when people keep disrespecting Shirou just because he seem like he lack balls, too naive, etc. In fact, in general, most wimpy characters are misunderstood. True, most anime have shitty character development especially in harem shows but there are shows focused on wimpy characters and their development... and people still ignore that. Yukiteru in Mirai Nikki is a case of point. hentai_proxy said: Couldn't agree more. By counterargument I say the first guy misunderstands Shirley. Yes, we know Rolo has a fucked up history, that by no means justify anything. Also, it was completely understandable why Lelouch could never accept him, he was a replacement to his true sibling, Nunally. And we all knew Lelouch had a sister complex going on there.Roloko said: Misunderstood: Rolo from Code Geass its like people were not paying attention at the beginning of episode 4, 14, and 19. Then decided to tag him as a heartless bastard without looking at his past and why he is the way he is. Its not his fault its the geass cult and Lelouch being a douche and not just accepting him that lead to the events of episode 13. So if you are going to blame anyone for that scene blame those two and you know which chick for being a fucking dumbass for going into an empty mall with a suspected terrorist in it. So she was just begging to be shot and killed like the pathetic piss ant she was. I would go on, but it is hard typing on a laptop instead of my usual computer's keyboard and the comp I'm usually on screwed itself over again. -_- Victim blame at its best. Remind me to call you in as a defense witness in case they catch me trying to do something bad to some girl in an empty mall. People seem to hate on Shirley just because she come off annoying or something. And wanted her to die. Wtf people. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Feb 22, 2012 1:21 PM
#46
Tachii said: People seem to hate on Shirley just because she come off annoying or stupid or something. And wanted her to die. Wtf people. Well if you payed attention to Code Geass then you would know she had zero character development. She could have had some if Lelouch wouldn't have done that to her in R1 cause after that she became pure fanserivce. So why should we give a shit about some bitch that didn't do anything except be an annoyance? And no she is not misunderstood how can she be when she did nothing or have any real background to begin with than just to be some random love interest to the main? |
"What has two arms, two legs, and is alive? Not your favorite character lol! xD" |
Feb 22, 2012 1:30 PM
#47
You make it sound like other characters had development in Code Geass. Shirley was simply a normal girl in a world full of abnormal people. Whether you thought that was annoying is up to you, but one should never suggest just because someone is annoying, they should die. Even in a fictional setting. And to her a bitch is going far enough. I don't feel like any discussion should continue at this point. |
Feb 22, 2012 1:31 PM
#48
Shirou, in the VN at least, was a great character. Hes still an idiot though, lol. Not in the 'he doesnt think about his actions' way, simply in a 'he has a totally retarded ideal' way. Holo from spice and wolf is 'over rated' as far as I am concerned, I found her fairly boring. Obviously(imo, anyway) light and lelouche and various other characters in similarly popular animes are over rated as well. Under rated and misunderstood.. Shirley from Code Geass maybe? I have never understood whats with the hate. You know, its not like every single human in existence can be a badass freedom fighter or a genius, guys. after reading the post above mine... Tachii said: You make it sound like other characters had development in Code Geass. Shirley was simply a normal girl in a world full of abnormal people. Whether you thought that was annoying is up to you, but one should never suggest just because someone is annoying, they should die. Even in a fictional setting. And to her a bitch is going far enough. I don't feel like any discussion should continue at this point. This^ |
Worships Asparagus. |
Feb 22, 2012 1:36 PM
#49
Holo from spice and wolf is 'over rated' as far as I am concerned, I found her fairly boring. Obviously(imo, anyway) light and lelouche and various other characters in similarly popular animes are over rated as well. Can you explain that a little more, please. I would appreciate if you didn't use popularity of a series as a reason why X character is overrated. |
Feb 22, 2012 1:37 PM
#50
Tachii said: You make it sound like other characters had development in Code Geass. character had development in CG? its more like they went backwards on development, especially lelouch and suzaku, they were freaking train wrecks in terms of writing |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
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