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Dec 1, 2023 5:57 AM
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Seeing Maria back and taking on a more active role again was a sight for sore eyes.

We got a sports festival epsiode and obviously, Runa participated with Ryuuto being involved too. However, with Maria also being back, things got awkward this episode as expected. They even had her in a that sports festival outfit. But oh well, the main catch was still Runa in the spotlight.
Dec 1, 2023 6:01 AM
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Wouldn't be a romcom without the traditional sports festival episode..

Luna volunteered as a cultural festival committee member to push forward her "Friendship Plan" with Maria. She roped in Ryuto, and the three of them became responsible for pamphlet distribution. However, Luna and Maria's opinions clashed, while Lute and Maria found themselves getting excited discussing games. On the day of the sports festival, with this awkward dynamic in place, an unexpected event unfolds.

It's positive to note that the exchange between Ryuto and Maria at the train station alleviated any unease Ryuuto had been experiencing around her. However, the rooftop conversation doesn't seem likely to contribute positively. It appears that things might become awkward once more between the two of them.

I don’t know how to feel about Maria tbh.
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Dec 1, 2023 7:00 AM
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There might be something more about Ryuto's senpai in prep school (his name is Shuugo Sekiya by the way).
Dec 1, 2023 7:06 AM
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Sports festival is basically a must for every romcom anime, and this one is no exception either. Runa was lucky enough to pair up with Ryuuto and they even won the match together. Happy outcome there.

I don't know what else to say about Maria again, it looks like she's still harbouring her resentment against Runa as expected.

Dec 1, 2023 7:14 AM
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Ah, love is complicated, isn't it?

How difficult it is for them to be good friends, and it seems like their relationship is strained again

I don't want to choose one and I don't want anyone to feel disappointed either.
Dec 1, 2023 7:18 AM
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I was hoping Maria would melt in the background and leave Ryuuto and Runa to be together but no she had to tell Ryuuto she still has feelings for him am still fully on team Runa and hope her and Ryuuto stay together
Dec 1, 2023 7:31 AM
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Maria & runa are trying their best to repair their relationship, but it keeps on getting worse.
Dec 1, 2023 7:45 AM
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This guy is so weak his own girl and female teacher had to check him because it was painfully obvious he was building up to a lie; Instead of just spitting out what he really thinks. One of the worst modern male MC portrayals I've ever seen.
Dec 1, 2023 8:48 AM
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As typical of a festival, having Ryuto and his buds around to help Runa get back with Maria, The Friendship Project is back in session.

In this case, it's being part of the pamphlet committee to decide the event for the culture festival, though a rather disconnect between sisters and Ryuto because of their interests. Even Sekya had his own issues, though not as bad as Ryuto is facing right now, which he has to play matchmaking to ensure resonance between sisters, which now they are total opposites.

The truth about Maria, even after the divorce and resentment to Runa that she has tried to break both Ryuto and Runa, she stopped forcing herself at one point, and eventually knows that he's been keeping a distance from her even in the same cram school. The Sports Day event comes first before their event, it's quite the typical popular event, but when Runa's mother comes along, Maria goes into hiding, because she eventually confessed to him, which also eventually forced him to lean on Maria's idea for the culture festival.

Oh boy, Ryuto is in a crossroads here...he can't even lie about not wanting to accept his own girlfriend's idea for once.
Dec 1, 2023 9:25 AM

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I knew that Runa should've left Maria alone instead of forcing herself and Ryuto to join the pamphlet committee (or whatever its called). This may be an unpopular opinion but it looks like Maria and Ryuto have more in common than Ryuto and Runa but Maria was the one that rejected Ryuto previously so I'm still indifferent to her.

Also, it doesn't help Ryuto's cause when everyone knew he was lying about picking the pamphlet and finally admitted to liking Maria's version more. Anyway, I'm thinking that Runa is unhappy with what Maria said on the rooftop and will probably bring it up at some point but she kind of brought this upon herself.
Dec 1, 2023 9:26 AM
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This episode was pretty weak for me. A good story of young people growing up is marred by cheap drama. Maria keeps saying how much she still likes Ryuto at inopportune times. Runa always overhears just enough to instantly trigger over reaction. Ryuto keeps being indecisive and tongue tied when a few simple sentences would clear up confusion and show his concern for both sides of a dispute. Makes me want to rewatch Horimiya.
Dec 1, 2023 9:28 AM
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The more I watch of this show, the more copy/paste romance anime it feels.

It's like My Dress Up Darling without any charm and with the generic spineless loser protag.
Dec 1, 2023 10:00 AM

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Well we knew that Maria and Runa on the committee would lead to some juicy drama and boy we got that today.

Maria’s unresolved trauma rearing its ugly head. I do feel bad for her having to change her last name and everything while Runa got to stay in relative luxury, but it’s not like Runa set that up. Blame the court system if anything.

I liked seeing opposites collide with their taste in videos. Runa is in to fashionable content creators while Maria is into Let’s plays which is pretty cool. Honestly, seems like if Maria were in a better place mentally and had been at the school before Runa, she and Ryuto would’ve made a better couple. Similar interests and taste in design.

Cat’s out of the bag with Ryuuto going to K prep. Turns out he wasn’t as sneaky as he thought he was if Maria already knew this lol. He did all that crawling on the ground for nothing

The day of the sports festival arrives and we get a really cute scene with Ryuuto and Runa finishing the race together. Of course with Runa and Maria’s mom showing up there was bound to be drama and we got that. The rooftop scene was really good. But idk why Maria thought their mother wouldn’t interact with Runa at all when coming to the festival? Like I get she’s insecure but that’s still your mother’s daughter too lol.

Runa knowing how Maria feels now is gonna make things interesting. She’s already put two and two together and understands Ryuuto was not being honest about the flyer designs out of consideration for her feelings.. this is gonna be fun
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Dec 1, 2023 10:24 AM
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Runa is an idiot, long live Maria
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Dec 1, 2023 10:44 AM
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They didn't even design the pamphlets, just chose a color palette, how hard is it to say something in between? What does her mom talking to her sister at all have anything to do with Maria still liking the MC? Why is Runa distraught that Maria confesses again like the MC gave any indication of reciprocation? Episode was fine up until sports day and then it was just rushed, forced, silly drama for the rest.

Also the preview looks like it's going to be the result of said rushed, forced, silly drama completely blown out of proportion again because Runa is still extremely insecure and the MC can't/won't do enough to change that.
Dec 1, 2023 10:51 AM
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I kind of feel bad for Maria because she's had to uproot her life change her last name which is obviously something that really hurts her cuz she keeps bringing that up and how her sister seems to get everything that she wants and I think her seeing her with her mom kind of broke. Maria because her sister still hadn't told everyone else that they were actually sisters so she felt like she couldn't go and just see her I really hope this whole sisters arc thing gets resolved
Dec 1, 2023 11:02 AM

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Looking from all three perspectives, I have to lean towards Maria in this situation. Her personality and actions reflect what she has been through unlike Runa who slightly overreacts every time even though she is well aware of, and acknowledges, everything. On the other hand, Ryuto is your generic main protagonist who just doesn't improve on anything. He keeps repeating the same mistakes and chooses to remain oblivious. So long story short, Maria for the win. At least, she exhibits a tad bit of character development. (She feels like an actual human being at the very least)
A great example of gyaru "done right" would be Kitagawa Marin. Moreover, Runa just feels like Marin's empty husk with a few out of the box touches that are completely unnecessary
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Dec 1, 2023 11:50 AM
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Just when I thought Maria was about to be somewhat redeemed into a bearable character, she starts acting up again by gatekeeping a mutual mother?! The show is trying to give a proper explanation to her behavior in the form of a complicated family history, but the writing is honestly so cheap and atrocious that nothing holds weight anymore. The character dynamics feel so unenthusiastic and unnatural I find it extremely hard to even root for the main couple at this point. Ryuto is so scared of offending his girlfriend he has to suck up to her on every occasion, and once he finally says what he actually thinks, the gullible Runa feels instantly betrayed. This isn't a healthy relationship – y'all need to get some boba and talk your insecurities out.

On the other hand, Akari and Ijichi have caught my attention. Their little moments during the past couple episodes were pretty sweet! I could see them getting along as fellow stream enthusiasts even if they're interested in totally different subjects, haha. It could also make for a good character arc for Ijichi to get over his dumb "normies are enemies" mindset once and for all, but I doubt the writer would dare to do anything that satisfying...
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Dec 1, 2023 12:22 PM
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phantomfandom said:
There might be something more about Ryuto's senpai in prep school (his name is Shuugo Sekiya by the way).

Tbh i think he might be one of runa's exes
Dec 1, 2023 12:29 PM
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Definitely enjoyed the heightened drama that they put Ryuto through... Runa definitely put him in a tough spot what was he suppose to do when she said she didnt want him to lie for her.

I have my suspicions with Ryuto's senpai from cram school when i read about him in the manga and seeing him in last weeks episode, makes me feel like he knows more than what he lets on... im guessing that he might be one of Runa's exes. im quite interested in whats gonna happen next week... as the title of next week suggests the experienced you and the inexperienced me go different ways... they make it seem like they are gonna have a rift/potential break up but everything we've learned so far their relationship is all based off misunderstandings.
Dec 1, 2023 1:32 PM

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I liked this episode. It's common for every school rom-com to have a festival episode and I thought it was good.

Only issues with it is the logic with Maria. I don't understand how her mother talking to her twin sister makes her feel bad, like that's her daughter too. Also Maria confessing again was weird, that was just to add more drama I guess. Last thing was the ending, Ryuuto, tried to lie but it made it worse. Like dude, it's a poster, pick one. I know you wanna agree with Runa but this is meaningless.

Anyways, can't wait for next week.
Dec 1, 2023 1:53 PM

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The Friendship project has started but does not seem to go anywhere fast, Ryuto chooses Maria's design, drama 😅

I feel like the Ronin from cram school was talking about Runa but I hope to be wrong on that one...
Dec 1, 2023 2:49 PM
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There might be something more about Ryuto's senpai in prep school (his name is Shuugo Sekiya by the way).
@phantomfandom Pretty sure he's Nikoru's ex. Remember when she mentioned she wasn't completely over a short relationship from middle school? Plus his back appears behind her in the OP song.
Dec 1, 2023 3:17 PM

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holy shit maria is crazy
Dec 1, 2023 3:44 PM
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My review of this episode is easy. Maria can be boiled in oil. And have her fat sold for fucking soap. That is all. 10/10
Dec 1, 2023 4:12 PM

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school festival episode, you know how it goes.
Dec 1, 2023 4:30 PM

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I guess that was a try to make us feel pity for Maria. To be fair, I can see why she's behaving that way. Good thing that the reasons to dislike her keep outweighing that xD (still think some users are a bit too harsh on her)

I'm less tolerant of Ryuuto being such a people pleaser.

One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron


Dec 1, 2023 4:39 PM
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A very good and difficult episode! It is not easy to be Ryuuto between Runa and Maria.

Ryuuto needs to learn and put into practice the Stoicism.
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Mene, mene, tekel, parsin
Dec 1, 2023 4:50 PM
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I can't stand Maria from breathing much longer!
Dec 1, 2023 4:52 PM
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Landonime said:
My review of this episode is easy. Maria can be boiled in oil. And have her fat sold for fucking soap. That is all. 10/10

SHE'S SUCH A DELUSIVE BASTARD!
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Landonime said:
My review of this episode is easy. Maria can be boiled in oil. And have her fat sold for fucking soap. That is all. 10/10

SHE'S SUCH A DELUSIVE BASTARD!
@Bijou146 yeah I want too 360 no scope her and give her a call of duty T bag. Then see the party her parents throw me after I tell them her daughter was a noob
Dec 1, 2023 4:55 PM
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LuisSV23 said:
Runa is an idiot, long live Maria
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Maria is a TOOL
Team Maria can suck a cow's nipples!
Dec 1, 2023 4:59 PM
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Landonime said:
@Bijou146 yeah I want too 360 no scope her and give her a call of duty T bag. Then see the party her parents throw me after I tell them her daughter was a noob

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Dec 1, 2023 5:02 PM
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@Bijou146 yeah I want too 360 no scope her and give her a call of duty T bag. Then see the party her parents throw me after I tell them her daughter was a noob

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Bijou146 10th prestige anime t bagger right here mother fuck. Fuck you maria, and while I'm at it, fuck anyone who looks like you too! I hope you go give blood at the doctor and forget too say "when"
Dec 1, 2023 5:10 PM
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Landonime said:
@Bijou146 10th prestige anime t bagger right here mother fuck. Fuck you maria, and while I'm at it, fuck anyone who looks like you too! I hope you go give blood at the doctor and forget too say "when"

While the plot is moving forward, she'll be the villain for the rest of time, I bet she'll do something much worse!
Dec 1, 2023 5:58 PM
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This episode was pretty weak for me. A good story of young people growing up is marred by cheap drama. Maria keeps saying how much she still likes Ryuto at inopportune times. Runa always overhears just enough to instantly trigger over reaction. Ryuto keeps being indecisive and tongue tied when a few simple sentences would clear up confusion and show his concern for both sides of a dispute. Makes me want to rewatch Horimiya.

completely agree. the oh so much cliched "oh I happen to arrive just at the perfect moment to hear something but misunderstand it"...
this show was doing great, even prevented the drama cliche with the uncle ..and now this...
ughhh.
Dec 1, 2023 7:23 PM

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Oh boy what an ending. That rooftop scene too...
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Dec 1, 2023 7:34 PM
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Dec 1, 2023 7:43 PM

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Them adding in drama like this just doesn't feel right. Runa already knows that Ryuuto's first crush was Maria, as well as the fact that he would never do anything to purposefully hurt her and everything in his power to show how much he loves her. Why does she still think he would cheat on her? If that isn't what she's thinking, then why the hell is she upset? Because Maria still loves Ryuuto? That's just next level petty considering she knows that Ryuuto rejected Maria before.
Dec 1, 2023 7:56 PM

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The more I watch of this show, the more copy/paste romance anime it feels.

It's like My Dress Up Darling without any charm and with the generic spineless loser protag.


This show sucks more dick than Runa! It's generic as fuck and the MC is a gay as simp, like dude you are still saying in this episode how you needed Runas forgiveness and shit........dude you didn't do anything!
Like fuck bro man up, you turned down the confession and then listened to you gfs sisters problems......then your gfs best friend slaps you for no fucking reason and they don't let you explain shit. Then Runa comes back and actually says hey thx for what you did, my bad and hey befriend my sister and you still act like you did such horrible shit and need forgiveness......suck a punk cock bro cause that's def what you and Runa are good at....made for each other.

This guy and others are on point! The most generic shit ever and they just threw it all together cause they know this anime isn't getting a second season. This sucktastic show will legit make you dumber!



Also I've read all the major summaries of the LN and got all the low down and let's just say no wonder even LN readers dropped this shit and say they should end the anime with one season.


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Dec 1, 2023 8:01 PM

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ngl Ryuto does NOT understand Kurose at all and what she went through. I'm actually grateful those two never got together. He was kinda harsh with his words to Kurose and this girl is thinking "hes being kind". I mean ik why he's like that. Kurose did pretty horrible things. I wish she gets over Ryuto quick

Dec 1, 2023 8:21 PM

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Predictably, Maria would not stop liking Ryuto from one moment to the next, Runa must be imagining a thousand things at this moment, I believe that a moment of crisis will begin between the couple
Dec 1, 2023 8:29 PM

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ngl Ryuto does NOT understand Kurose at all and what she went through. I'm actually grateful those two never got together. He was kinda harsh with his words to Kurose and this girl is thinking "hes being kind". I mean ik why he's like that. Kurose did pretty horrible things. I wish she gets over Ryuto quick

Yeah this MC sucks ass and I mean 10 day unwashed hobo ass! He squirms and squees at every fucking thing. Only dudes I knew like this is school were gay as fuck....also nothing wrong with that but don't pretend to be straight like this MC is doing! MC also simps so hard for Runa id think if his mom was about to be killed he'd have to ask Runa first if he should save her......dude can't even give his opinion over a pamphlet.....da fuck is he gonna do when real shit comes up?!?! If this was nhentai this MC would have been fucking NTRd by now and he's having the ending where he's still with her filming Runa getting dick downed by the other guys!

Also yeah all Maria hate is way overkill. Sure she did some messed up stuff but has stopped and considering all the shit she went through how could she not get kinda pissed at her sister. Even her like you know y'all have kept your siblingness a secret so why you talking to your mom infront of everyone knowing Maria is gonna have to slide up and talk to her too. Just cause Runa has a brick for a brain doesn't give her a pass on misunderstanding all these things and jumping to conclusions like with Maria confession.

Now that she has gotten over hating Runa, she's actually the better choice for this dude. Y'all like the same stuff and have the same thoughts for the future and shit. Also Maria isn't a multi time used piece of meat that's been put through the grinder a few dozen times!
Runa at least has the courtesy to let you know she's been stuffed more than a Thanksgiving turkey! I'll give her that!


Dec 1, 2023 8:59 PM

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Yikes, the air was real heavy this episode.
Dec 1, 2023 9:15 PM

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Damn bro, this is one sticky situation. Kurose can't/won't let go, which makes MC feel bad to try and help Runa be friends, and while Runa's pretty understanding I can't imagine she feels good about MC being so conflicted
Dec 1, 2023 10:56 PM

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I'd rather watch a SOL with Akari and Nicole than all the drama the sisters are dredging up.
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Dec 1, 2023 11:16 PM

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I still hate Kurose for what she did, but I must say I'm on her side here, she is trying to distance herself from this cringe ass couple and they are trying to push themselves to be their friend, that shit must be so fkng uncomfortable for her.

wtf was that scene at the end? ARE WE REALLY GONNA GET DRAMA OVER A FKNG PHAMPLET??? THIS PLOT IS SO BAD I SWEAR.

Good to know that Akari is actually a good and chill girl, she seems more like the superiority-only and evil gal (since she was like "ugh" when she knew Ryuuto was Runa's boyfriend), I like her more this way ofc. And I'm glad that Ryuuto's friend didn't do anything cringe this episode, unlike Ryuuto himself, dumbass compared Runa to a fkng race car again, I wanna punch him so bad.

Btw, this episode reminded me... we never knew who the fuck took that photo of Ryuuto and Kurose at the park in ep6, I always thought it was Akari (because as I said I thought she was evil and wanted him to break up with Runa somehow), but now that we know her a bit better I doubt it, so I must assume just some random mtfk decided to take and share that photo for no reason? What the fuck? How can people be ok with this? lmaooo, maybe we will find out who did it in the future but I absolutely doubt that, the writing is just that bad.
Sorry if my english is bad (っ˘▽˘)っ~~~
Btw, cry about it.

Dec 1, 2023 11:27 PM

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Kurose really need to fix her inferiority complex because she keeps making new problems and dragging people around her because they care. She can at least tell Shirakawa about it. But if its too hard to fix it or tell the truth, get better at lying or acting so people won't try to "help" you, you can then keep your problems to yourself.
Dec 1, 2023 11:41 PM

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A sadly average type of episode this week, with more misunderstanding dramatics.

Dec 1, 2023 11:43 PM

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Pretty obvious that the guy from Ryuto's cram school is Nikol's ex. Seems like a more interesting character than Ryuto's mob friend, which gives me even more reason to say Nikol is too good for that dude.
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