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Dec 7, 2016 4:18 AM
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Raw Chapter is out. Only 8 years for Eren to live? He better make every one of those count.

The life of these guys is tough already...
Looks like this chapter is still more about Grisha storytelling.
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where'd you get translations.
Dec 7, 2016 5:12 PM
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The last page...kinda awesome!
Dec 7, 2016 5:42 PM
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All the cool characters give epic speeches before they die :(
Dec 7, 2016 5:49 PM
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great chapter i think this conclude Grisha's story arc huh?

too much information i need to re read the chapter twice to completely understand it, but i have a question if a titan shifter will die after 13 years why Zeke is not dead yet ?

Crunchyroll's translation is kinda ambiguous it says only the founding titan will die after 13 years and in other panels it said all titan shifters will die after 13 years and Armin too said he have 13 years left so i dont know i'm confused :S
Dec 7, 2016 6:05 PM
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great chapter i think this conclude Grisha's story arc huh?

too much information i need to re read the chapter twice to completely understand it, but i have a question if a titan shifter will die after 13 years why Zeke is not dead yet ?

Crunchyroll's translation is kinda ambiguous it says only the founding titan will die after 13 years and in other panels it said all titan shifters will die after 13 years and Armin too said he have 13 years left so i dont know i'm confused :S

won't having the powers of 2 titans shorten his lifespan even more? Guess next chapter is the end of the flashback and we'll probably see how he took the royal titan powers again. So the 9 titans' powers are automatically pass on to the offsprings if they don't transfer them? More devil/alien than biology like Higurashi. Zeke's flashback is probably coming soon, Curious to see his pov and his stance.
Dec 7, 2016 6:22 PM
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voidepression said:

won't having the powers of 2 titans shorten his lifespan even more? Guess next chapter is the end of the flashback and we'll probably see how he took the royal titan powers again. So the 9 titans' powers are automatically pass on to the offsprings if they don't transfer them? More devil/alien than biology like Higurashi. Zeke's flashback is probably coming soon, Curious to see his pov and his stance.


yeah Eren said he might have less than 8 years god this is sad....

if someone didn't inherit the power it will go randomly to an eldian baby even if they're not blood related that's the invisible bond they share as a whole nation that's what the latest discoveries they reach in Titan Chemistry studies according to Kruger

i'm so curious about Zeke and his pov on the whole thing maybe he didn't inherit the beast titan in his childhood, maybe just few years ago? that's why he didn't die yet
Dec 7, 2016 6:45 PM
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so titan shifters (all 9 of them) only has a 13 year lifespan huh and Eren has only 8 years left, plus the name of Eren's titan form is Attack Titan
Dec 7, 2016 7:01 PM
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I knew the both the Marley story and eldian story was either exaggerated or complete bullshit, its like different religion, where each religion has their own belief, with no solid proof for any of them.

voidepression said:
Sarah-Sama said:
great chapter i think this conclude Grisha's story arc huh?

too much information i need to re read the chapter twice to completely understand it, but i have a question if a titan shifter will die after 13 years why Zeke is not dead yet ?

Crunchyroll's translation is kinda ambiguous it says only the founding titan will die after 13 years and in other panels it said all titan shifters will die after 13 years and Armin too said he have 13 years left so i dont know i'm confused :S

won't having the powers of 2 titans shorten his lifespan even more? Guess next chapter is the end of the flashback and we'll probably see how he took the royal titan powers again. So the 9 titans' powers are automatically pass on to the offsprings if they don't transfer them? More devil/alien than biology like Higurashi. Zeke's flashback is probably coming soon, Curious to see his pov and his stance.


The answer is simple he did not get his powers until maybe when he was a teen, a lot of people speculate that Zeke is 27 base of the time period.

Yes, all nine shifters only have 13 years to live, including the coordinate holder.
Dec 7, 2016 7:20 PM

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So how that ritual from the king of the walls was happening?

I'm pretty sure the 1st king was living more than 13 years, I mean, I can't believe he switched his body from 12 on 12 years to keep him alive.
Dec 7, 2016 7:38 PM
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One of the main question now is why did the king allow this to happen? He has the power to easily reclaim the other 8 titans and control all the mindless ones. + More fantasy elements behind the origins of the first titan of the world. Armin is still going to be a colossal titan.
Dec 7, 2016 9:33 PM
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Attack Titan huh? So he's the "shingeki no kyojin"? Or was he the "kougeki no kyojin"?

And how did grisha live so long? The colossal Titan didn't break down the gates until 15 years later, right?
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Hahaha. Title drop! Finally an official name for Eren's titan form... and also the origin as to why he is named Eren.
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Chapter had a lot of information that is for sure. I mean dang dude. 13 years left to live. I guess a great power comes at a great price. That is all I can say for sure. Speaking of the nine titan powers. I believe that Reiner, Ymir, and Annie, along with Zeke has to be related to one of titan powers don't you think?
Dec 7, 2016 10:33 PM

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Really interesting chapter. We got info on the lifespan of Titan Shifters, we saw that the Owl's name is Eren which is probably why Grisha named his own son Eren, and we learned the official name of Eren's Titan transformation (which is practically a title drop). I read this a little fast so I might go back and reread it some time later to fully absorb everything.
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Dec 7, 2016 10:35 PM

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what's with all those title drops this week lol well that was awesome.

The origin of Ymir Fritz's titan powers is still unclear. As I've discussed with @keragamming before, I really, really hope they don't mean she got them from a literal demon.. Interesting conversation about those 'paths', by the way. I'm intrigued to learn more about that.
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Dec 7, 2016 11:06 PM

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If Eren has 8 years to live and Armin has 13 years to live then Reiner and Annie for sure have even less time. We don't know when Zeke got his titan powers, but based on his mastery of his powers and how Reiner and Bert called him War Chief, I'm going to speculate Zeke doesn't have much time left at all.
Dec 8, 2016 12:07 AM

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Mikasa is right. This world is just wrong. She already lost her adoptive parents , now after years she will lose both Armin and Eren..

Yeah I'm still a bit confused about who Ymir actually was , but It's clear that History they were told is false.

Interesting that Grisha named his son after Kruger.

The choice between Armin and Erwin was just a decision on whose life to extend for 13 years..:/
Dec 8, 2016 12:32 AM

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Even reading the translations (not english) I still don't get it.... why do both the marley and eldians want the coordinate?

Edit: And how did the original kings not die?? Didn't Uri live until old age???
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Dec 8, 2016 1:10 AM
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Mikasa needs to make babies with Eren ASAP before he dies.
Dec 8, 2016 3:05 AM

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Lots of interesting info in this chapter. Also, title drop!!
But there has to be something different with eren because he's supposed to have 2 titans in him right?
Really interested to find out more about these "paths" and how Ymir's powers originated.
Dec 8, 2016 4:11 AM

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Also in Chapter 47 where Reiner was talking to Bert "You're both murderers with "little time left", right? Who else but one of us could understand the situation we are in" now has a new meaning with the 13 year time curse.
Dec 8, 2016 4:35 AM

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With all the background finally being revealed, they just had to put another twist to make us cling to hope, the "thirteen years death". If they really can't be saved in any way, my overall score of the series will probably just take a nose dive later...
Dec 8, 2016 4:51 AM

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Eren has 2 titans. So.. does that affect his lifespan as well? By the way, I thought that in the first chapter when Mikasa said "see you later, Eren" it was the old Eren's memory, seeing someone similar. I guess this theory is not possible, since he didn't have the titan's memories back then. :(

Also, we got fake information about 3 months ago, when they talked about Ymir. Now what is the truth? Titans are connected, but their history is still very foggy.
Dec 8, 2016 6:41 AM

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damn, it makes sense now. So they do have a short-lifespan. Poor Mikasa so RIP Shipper.

so now I understand why he said "short-lived mass murderers", they are literally don't have much time left :lol, Isayama-sensei is a genius.
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Dec 8, 2016 6:47 AM

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More info dump, this chapter was great damn!
Hope they'll be able to do something about the 13 years life span thing.
Dec 8, 2016 7:29 AM

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Yep purely an info dump chapter but still enjoyable. Interesting what the Owl was saying about history, he definitely didn't end up giving a decisive answer about who Ymir was but it seems that the message is people make their own "truths." That was kinda anticlimactic after all of the buildup the name is "attack" titan lol. Does that mean the official names for the other titans are close to the names they've been casually called so far "Armored" "Colossal" "Female"?

I have forgotten some of the details in this manga from earlier chapters honestly, I'm thinking I will re-read the manga up to the current chapter once we get to CH 100.
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"The Attack Titan" how poetic xD
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Titan power has a price too!
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Great chapter finally we got an oficial name for erens titan poor mikasa she lost her parents her adoptive patents and in a few years eren and armin she is right this world is so wrong eren has ledd that 8 years ohh well whatever as long as nothing bad happens to levi i am fine
Dec 8, 2016 9:29 AM

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We truly are the attack on titan
Dec 8, 2016 10:01 AM
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Although it's stupdly full of information and kinda boring to read, it isn't a bad chapter.
One of the things that is good pointing out about the chapter, altough it may be a little repetitive and even then it shoudn't be annoying because it's one of the main points of the entire manga, is that it shows how far human's will to fight can go and explain what drives that determination.
On the other hand, the introduction of magic is not something I entirely liked and would prefer the manga to continue the way it was. I wonder what is the purpose to the whole "once you die, a randomly chosen baby related to ymir inherits the power"? Why create this "mechanism"? Are they trying to say that this fight will continue even after Eren dies?
Dec 8, 2016 11:06 AM
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Finally the series's title makes sense!!!! Eren is the shingeki no kyojin! my mind is blown.
Loved it!
Dec 8, 2016 11:19 AM
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Mikasa will definitely jump Eren and harvest his DNA within 8 years at this point.
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Dec 8, 2016 11:56 AM

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The epic feels when you reach the title drop. Can't wait to see that scene animated, though I wonder how many years will that take... -___-
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Just one question (might sound really dumb at this point ) but "Shingeki no kyojin" traduced in english is "Attack on Titan" or "Attack Titan"?
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Even reading the translations (not english) I still don't get it.... why do both the marley and eldians want the coordinate?

Edit: And how did the original kings not die?? Didn't Uri live until old age???

I think the King Fritz (from the walls) doesn't have that 13 years curse, he might be immune cause he has Royal Blood, so maybe Zeke has more time than anyone or is immune too, thanks the Royal Blood of his mom Dina Fritz.
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Even reading the translations (not english) I still don't get it.... why do both the marley and eldians want the coordinate?

Edit: And how did the original kings not die?? Didn't Uri live until old age???

They both want the power of the titans.
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damn, it makes sense now. So they do have a short-lifespan. Poor Mikasa so RIP Shipper.

so now I understand why he said "short-lived mass murderers", they are literally don't have much time left :lol, Ishida-sensei is a genius.
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Just one question (might sound really dumb at this point ) but "Shingeki no kyojin" traduced in english is "Attack on Titan" or "Attack Titan"?
Shingeki no Kyojin translated in English is actually (The) Advancing Giant(s)/Titan(s)
Dec 8, 2016 3:40 PM

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Dam Eren has 8 years to live and Armin has the full 13 still since he's new. Maybe they find a way to bypass this and don't die?
Dec 8, 2016 3:50 PM
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Now that's the good kind of infodump.
13 years to live and 8 for Eren, and it can't even be supressed for good and chooses Eldian babies randomly, holy fuck now that's tragic, how is is that gonna be resolved?
The Titan shitfting is now more of a curse than a blessing, I like that it has such a crazy drawback, I mean they can grow limbs and shit, just like in TG Ghouls can only eat humans. A "would you rather" between the 2 powers is now a worst case scenario.
I don't think that the truth behind "the devil and Ymir" will ever be revealed, that would ruin the narrative that both sides don't fully know the true history and are just going with what they believe in.
These chapters really gave Grisha a good deal of characterization and made me care about him as a character, which is not exactly this series strong point, too bad all this characterization is for nothing because the dude is dead as fuck.
"Attack on Titan" yet another example of stupid title translations that are not literal, they should always strive to translate the title as literally as possible though I guess it's done for marketing reasons to grab attention. "Erased" comes to mind and that one is stupid as fuck and has no excuse, the title is a lot longer than that and holds more meaning.
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Nice chapter.

Lots of info from Kruger which is good.
8 yrs left for Eren & Armin's got 13.

Hmmm the "Attacker Titan"
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And now all the misunderstandings with the English title has just made cleared and makes sense.
This is clearly a story of Attacker Titan (Owl>Grisha>Eren) to gain freedom.

At least with that memory Eren can forgive himself for devouring his father.

By the way who has the Founding Titan power? Reiss family (Krista's father)? No one devoured him iirc. This is hilarious :D
Dec 8, 2016 9:17 PM

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What an absolutely amazing chapter. Some important revelations this chapter. A person in a titan form only has 13 years to live? Damn.
The conversations between the Owl and Grisha was so good. Kruegal's past was brutal as fuck. Watching his families being burnt alive. "Watch the world through a crack in the door" Like how he made that connection, like how he witnessed the same thing as a kid.
Eren has 8 years to live and Armin, 13. I wonder if they would find a cure for it though. Mikasa needs to act quick :3 Pretty cool panel here, where Eren showed up instead of the owl. Didn't notice that at first.

Attacker titan. Really messed up the English name for this series xD Seriously though, would have never guessed that's where the name of the title would come from. Pretty cool title drop. Next month needs to be here quick :D
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Cruelty of this Marley.....I feel sick....So this is Yeger Family Sickness...Madness and Hate..but Grisha's Last name was not Yeger originally?

Wait....!? O_O WHAAAT!!! Titan Shifters have 13 YEARS to LIVE!? WHAT THE HELL! and anyone with that Ymir Blood can inherit it if the Titan host Dies without Passing it forward....distance does not matter....oh hell...

8 years to Eren....13 to Armin....I wonder of how much time Ymir, Reiner and Annie have...and how is Ymir suffering in Marley currently....

War is coming...not the Wall Kingdom versus Titans....but the Wall Kingdom VERSUS MARLEY!

Attack Titan....AKA Frontline Titan!
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Does it mean that after all this time, the English title of Shingeki no Kyojin is mistranslated?
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BokutoHootarou said:
Does it mean that after all this time, the English title of Shingeki no Kyojin is mistranslated?


Doubt it, since it's on the anime title, too.
Dec 9, 2016 4:25 AM

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Page 3 vs Page 42 pretty neat. Grisha and Kruger basically switched pannel
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And how did grisha live so long? The colossal Titan didn't break down the gates until 15 years later, right?

Eren was 9 when they attacked wall Maria. Give or take a year or 2 for Grisha getting together with Carla and Eren getting born.
Edit: someone checked the timeline: "Grisha inherits the Titan power and is found by Keith Shadis in 832, and he has Eren eat him in 845, which is exactly 13 years apart."

I never really understood why Grisha gave the titan power to Eren, but now I know. But unlike others, I don't think I'd like it if there was some kind of 'cure' or 'solution' to the limited time span. Sometimes you need to let people die, even MC. I think it would just feel cheap to me otherwise.
Sad thing for Mikasa though.

Also nice how others thought back of what Reiner said way back. I didn't remember but yeah, his words make sense now. And maybe also the reason why Rob Reiss never wanted to inherit the titan power himself?

I think it's great going through the story again with all this new information to see things differently, pick up hints and understand more.
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