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Jul 24, 2015 11:38 AM
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Maria is pretty damn awesome imo. Maybe she isn't the strongest in the group but she put up a decent fight; her opponents have some strange abilities though...

And this episode also really shows a difference in firepower imo between the two groups.

The blood, sweat, and action was pretty good. Poor Maria D:
Jul 24, 2015 12:02 PM
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> Maria useful saves the day, Maria uselessness saves gear
> Hibiki being a bitch
> BikiMiku gay scenes
> Miku wife power saves day
> Hibiki useful
> Biki princess carries Miku
> Micha pounds relic into Hibiki's chest
> Hibiki dead eyes

Hype, berserbiki incoming
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Jul 24, 2015 5:57 PM
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Enhanced Symphogears hm.
Jul 24, 2015 8:49 PM
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YES! Black Gungnir, how I have missed you.

Also, come on! Those are freaking evil red eyes on their symphogear at the end, that can't possibly end well.

Hibiki continues to get rekt. Garie just gets more and more awesome every time.
Jul 24, 2015 9:34 PM
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Hibiki just been having a bad week

RIP or berserk 2.0?
Jul 24, 2015 9:43 PM
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ugh i want to see this enhanced symphogears!
Hate Keeps me warm
Jul 25, 2015 12:00 AM
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Why does Maria no longer fit with gungnir as ss2? It makes her suffer injury.
Hibiki was crushed by 2 dolls.
Look like they are disadvantage against new enemies.
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Jul 25, 2015 12:10 AM
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Garie is nice. Hope she continue to be awesome :3
Jul 25, 2015 3:42 AM
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Because she wasn't using Linker
Jul 25, 2015 10:48 AM
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ryanstrike said:
Why does Maria no longer fit with gungnir as ss2? It makes her suffer injury.
Hibiki was crushed by 2 dolls.
Look like they are disadvantage against new enemies.


cause her sync rate's too low, just like kirika/shirabe, dr.ver used Linker in SS 2 to increase their compatability, but then again, there's no point looking for reason in a show like this :S
Jul 25, 2015 10:51 AM

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I hate Hibiki so fucking much, I don't even want to see her dead. I want to see her broken after watching her friends die in front of her. I've taken 6 points off my score for this series all thanks to her.
Jul 25, 2015 12:10 PM

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I just noticed (cause they emphasized the hell out of it) that Hibiki uses TRON while Maria uses ZIZZL at the end of their holy activation.
Which means tron is for the rightful user and zizzle isn't, I think kanade and miku used zizzl too.

Hibiki only took 4ep. to snap out of it :O I thought it would take longer :)
LMFAO when she took the gungir and said it was hers XD even thou it was Maria's and she gave it to her last season :P

The action was GOOD :O
berserk? maybe the process for advanced gears makes you berserk if you don't have the spirit.

Jul 25, 2015 2:33 PM

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holy shit im so done with Hibiki, praise Maria
Jul 25, 2015 2:40 PM

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yay, at last they will give symphogear some upgrade. i was hoping hibiki will go berserk again when she shout at the end of the transformation song.
Jul 25, 2015 4:43 PM

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>Hibiki is deep into emotional s*it
>Saved by Miku's Yuri
>Activates Tomoe Mami's Syndrome
>Rekt hard at the end of the episode.

Gotta love Symphogear.
And, as suspected, they'll improve their gears with alchemy.
Jul 25, 2015 8:44 PM

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Still waiting for Miku and Hibiki to kiss.
Jul 26, 2015 3:57 AM
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I must say though. The moment the crystal on Hibikis' collar was hit by Micha was very intense.

Liked how they god rid of Hibiki's hesitation so quickly. Instead of dragging it on forever~~
Jul 26, 2015 6:10 AM

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ミカ(Micha)→ミカエル(Michael)
ガリィ(Garie)→ガブリエル(Gabriel)
レイア(Leiur)→ウリエル(Uriel)
ファラ(Phara)→ラファエル(Raphael)

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Jul 26, 2015 6:58 AM

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"Here is your Gungnir-"
"This is MY Gungnir!"
Yeah, you took it from Maria in the first place, Hibiki.
Jul 26, 2015 7:56 AM
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I feel a Berserk 2.0 incoming......I mean the foreshadowing with Gungnir these past 2 eps; Garie mentioning they threw it away, the fact they wanted to destroy the Gungnir itself. Also Durandal, Dansleif and Gungnir are all Norse mythology (I'm pretty sure anyway)......

Also isn't Hibari (might be mis-remembering) supposed to be Fine? inb4 she channels Fine/Ryouko and does something epic....
Jul 26, 2015 9:09 AM

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Hibiki was usefull for like 30 seconds of the entire episode aaaaand got mental broken again.

Must suck for Hibiki lately huh?
This anime just defines being a shitty character to a new level!
Jul 26, 2015 11:56 AM

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I give Maria props she put up a good effort and did avoid them all getting killed.

Really that was the most that someone could accomplish in her position. Like Kirika and Shirabe she just can't use the gear to its full extent without linker. Plus even Tsubasa and Chris who don't have that issue couldn't beat their respective opponents.
Jul 26, 2015 11:58 AM

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Hibiki's hesitation would have felt much more fitting if this was still season one. Whatever, at least it was "resolved" by referencing past seasons (lol).

Hype for the upgrades. Perhaps a second version of their transformation.
Jul 26, 2015 1:13 PM
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I can see as usual no-one cares about the important things.

Bah! I need my hands on that OST, the background tracks have been awesome and I want to get my hands on Biki's second song. It's going to be quite a feat if it beats G's godlike score.

Lol @ Hibiki getting flustered about fractions after the case of the homunculi's missing genitals. Sucks that the dolls seems to be only targeting men for memories, I guess it's makes it easier for them to become friends later if they only killed hoodlums/filthy male scum.

It seems SONG is about to hand out an alchemy enhanced ass whooping, don't think Hibike is going to be spearheading that beat down at the moment though. Love the dolls and their mannerisms, easily the coolest antagonists so far.
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I have to agree, I really do like the doll antagonists, they are all pretty epic. If this goes the same as other Symphogears, it is 13 episodes. I think 4 episodes was too long for her hesitation as well.

It might have been better if Hibiki's Symphogear got exploded first of the original three, and not last of the three.

This may sound cheesy, but I don't think the answer to enhanced symphogear should be alchemy, I prefer it to be something more on the lines of sheer will or something. However, Nanoha and the cartridge system thing worked well, so maybe this will too.
Jul 26, 2015 2:18 PM

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Well, Hibike got over her slump only to be utterly defeated. Maybe she even died. That fall would have been enough to kill her, I wonder what made her fall so slowly.
Jul 26, 2015 10:11 PM

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Well, I guess for sure Shirabe's would be next..Hilarious ending though. They're OP now until the good guys find a solution and utterly defeat them with "passion" and "friendship".
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Jul 26, 2015 10:32 PM

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Man, all the hate for Hibiki. Since season one you all knew she didn't like to fight people. Yet your getting pissed over this now. I love Hibiki & she will come back more bad ass than ever.
Jul 27, 2015 4:51 AM

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Eh, this is fairly tame. Even /m/ got worked up about it, and they're the reasonable ones. To be fair though, its been 2-3 years since the original and G aired, and the writing team didn't do a particularly great job on the plot, so its not too surprising that people forgot about it. Heck, I don't think it was handled particularly well here either, but I watch symphogear for the JUSTICE and music anyway
Jul 27, 2015 8:45 AM

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Hibiki's character always confuses me. Sometimes she's my fav and sometimes she's annoying af. And just finally when I got to see her in action again (Fav fighting style and actions scenes are always hers imo) she gets totally destroyed D:

Hopefully ElfNein's ignite project will power them up enough. Because they're seriously at a huge disadvantage right now.
Jul 27, 2015 5:04 PM

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Maria saves the day and Hibiki gets wrecked
Jul 27, 2015 6:17 PM

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I feel a Berserk 2.0 incoming......I mean the foreshadowing with Gungnir these past 2 eps; Garie mentioning they threw it away, the fact they wanted to destroy the Gungnir itself. Also Durandal, Dansleif and Gungnir are all Norse mythology (I'm pretty sure anyway)......

Also isn't Hibari (might be mis-remembering) supposed to be Fine? inb4 she channels Fine/Ryouko and does something epic....

I am fairly sure that Garie is referring to Elfnein, and the surprise being that Maria knows how to avoid having Gungnir 'dissected', which makes things interesting for a character with Garie's personality.

By Hibari I assume you mean Shirabe, and Fine's cycle of reincarnation ended when she saved Kirika from dying.
Jul 27, 2015 8:49 PM

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Man, all the hate for Hibiki. Since season one you all knew she didn't like to fight people. Yet your getting pissed over this now. I love Hibiki & she will come back more bad ass than ever.

I think you are letting your liking Hibiki blind you a bit here. There is a very wide gap between not liking fighting people and refusing to fight to defend yourself on top of not being able to comprehend symphogears as being weapons.

Hibiki's character isn't in line with her development so far, she's been backtracked to before season 1. She didn't want to fight Chris in season 1, but she was ready to defend herself and fight back so she'd have her side heard. She fought Fine in the season finale, who was still technically human. She didn't want to fight the new trio in season 2, but she was ready to at least use her gear. Heck without a block by Kirika an Shirabe she would have hit Ver with her symphogear, she sure didn't know the writers were going to block that attack. To save Miku, she was ready to fight and defend herself.

They couldn't find a good route for her character so they basically forced her to have a character dilemma that didn't make sense. In no way was she a pacifist who didn't see the symphogear as a weapon and wouldn't even be able to activate her gear to defend herself and those around her.

Criticizing the bizarre treatment of her character isn't hating on Hibiki. She's better than this and the story didn't need to spend time telling her what she already should have known. You don't have to like to fight people, you don't have to want to hurt others, but to save others you sometimes need to fight.
Jul 30, 2015 10:26 AM

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Nice double gungnir action in this episode! Both Maria and Hibiki were awesome!

Miku's such a great friend. She helped Hibiki remember the reason why she sings ^^

That red doll enemy is pretty crazy. She reminds me of that enemy in Sailor Moon who pretends that her doll has a toothache and proceeds to solve the problem by ripping its head off o_o

Wow I actually thought Hibiki defeated that red doll but unfortunately it was just an illusion, and she ended up getting her gear destroyed. But then again, how could it be symphogear without a plot twist at the end of each episode? xD
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Man, all the hate for Hibiki. Since season one you all knew she didn't like to fight people. Yet your getting pissed over this now. I love Hibiki & she will come back more bad ass than ever.

I think you are letting your liking Hibiki blind you a bit here. There is a very wide gap between not liking fighting people and refusing to fight to defend yourself on top of not being able to comprehend symphogears as being weapons.

Hibiki's character isn't in line with her development so far, she's been backtracked to before season 1. She didn't want to fight Chris in season 1, but she was ready to defend herself and fight back so she'd have her side heard. She fought Fine in the season finale, who was still technically human. She didn't want to fight the new trio in season 2, but she was ready to at least use her gear. Heck without a block by Kirika an Shirabe she would have hit Ver with her symphogear, she sure didn't know the writers were going to block that attack. To save Miku, she was ready to fight and defend herself.

They couldn't find a good route for her character so they basically forced her to have a character dilemma that didn't make sense. In no way was she a pacifist who didn't see the symphogear as a weapon and wouldn't even be able to activate her gear to defend herself and those around her.

Criticizing the bizarre treatment of her character isn't hating on Hibiki. She's better than this and the story didn't need to spend time telling her what she already should have known. You don't have to like to fight people, you don't have to want to hurt others, but to save others you sometimes need to fight.


Kinda confusing, but I sort get what you are saying. It still kinda hurts hearing everyone say that about Hibiki. She was sort referencing past seasons on why she sings I believe.

I actually kinda get Hibiki's slump at that time. I went through something similar (losing my reasons half way even though the answer was right in front of me after doing it for so long).

This kind of thing also reminds me of how interesting this season is since that the mastermind that Hibiki is fighting isn't that crazy/psychotic/kinda mental like Fine and Dr. Ver.
Aug 1, 2015 8:40 PM

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Maria + Gungnir

Hibiki was awesome... at least till she lost (it had to happen eventually).
I really wish they'd find an excuse to gear-up Miku again :(


... why are people complaining about plot holes in Symphogear... it's Symphogear!
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the surprise being that Maria knows how to avoid having Gungnir 'dissected',

She doesn't. The gear gave out because of the low synch rate. It was just dumb luck, Maria didn't deactivate it on purpose.
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Still waiting for Miku and Hibiki to kiss.


Sincerely hope it happens. These two have been hardcore lesbians for each other since season one. Give it to us already!
Aug 3, 2015 8:25 PM

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Amaizng!!!!

Man what an episode!! Seeing Maria on Black Gugnir Form is awesome!!!!! I miss this form!!!! Shame she's having a hard time dealing with the recoil damage.

Though seeing her all bloody in the eyes and mouth reminds me of Kanade and her sister Serena!

Shame Ma'm died :(

Still i hope Maria and others will keep on fighting.

Man just as when Tsubasa says Hibiki can win, she instantly gets owned like that. No offense to her, but i always hated her stubbornness and refusing to fight even though she had no problem fighting in the last season.

I really can't wait for the new Symphogear!!! I hope Maria gets another black cape gugnir!!

Can't wait for the next episode!!
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I was a bit annoyed on Hibiki's attitude on this episode, especially when she grabbed back her Gungnir necklace from Maria.
Damn, this is getting better! Villains who overpowered each and everyone of the good guys, and not only that...they are just minion puppets!
I have a hunch on what would happen...the bad guys are waiting for the correct opportunity to get the Ignite equipment, that is why they are always retreating after they have crushed their opponents' symphogear...and maybe Carol look-a-like is in cahoots with orig Carol...hahah...this is just a hunch.
5/5.


Sep 4, 2015 9:47 AM
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Man every season of this show is getting better and better even the budget seems to have increased. Love how they spend less time on raunchy character development and more on nonsense (though its still there but less abrasive). Also new noise actually have specific abilities making them much more fun and the villains are crazier! This show knew the direction it needed to take.
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Poor Carol, must be boring having to sit on that throne all day and wait for your dolls to carry out your orders. Jokes aside, i always wonder what the boss is doing in situations like this all the time. In real life, kings only went to the throne room for audiences, they had a "regular" life. Much of the time was probably taken up by paperwork (or what would be paper work today), and of course they had time "off", too.

But villains are often portraited as sitting on their throne 24/7 - at least they aren't ever shown doing anything but sitting on the throne and talking to themselves about the heroes, or acutally handing out orders. Even when we know the time a mission is going to take because they talk about it, like "to avoid delays, carry this out until tomorrow morning" "impossible, it takes at least 3 days" - or whatever. They never sleep, never read, never go shopping, never talk to friends and relatives etc., unless those activities are directly related to their master plan.
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I like this season so far, even if the antagonist is pretty underwhelming at the moment. She is basically a little girl/annoying brat, that plays with dolls and throws a tantrum if things don't go her way.
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She got rekt pretty hard after turning epic for a minute. And here I thought we wouldn't had to deal with Hibiki being a wimp for more episodes...

Cannot wait to see what Project Ignite will do to the Symphogears.
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Guys and Gals....What I saw Is that She does wants to fight Back. But Even at that Time Her Gungnir Won't Activate... can we Blame her? She didn't know shit like that could happen. I'm not saying it's going the right way and all... And She did Forget What was her Reason To fight lol... Like literally She Thinks for a while Why Did She really Draw out her powers in the past After Miku Told her.
Front Hooks...Oh yeah...
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Maria is pretty damn awesome imo. Another lewd moment when Bikky got rekt by Miccha
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I liked maria stepping up to the plate when no one else good. Just like shirabe from the previous season though, I'm still annoyed with hibike's ideals of only wanting to help people. Bro you gotta hurt some people sometimes to save others... can't this anime's themes be a little bit more mature than just the standard "I want to help and save everybody" stuff? We already got tons of glorified ass shots so I'm pretty sure it's not little kids who are tuning in to watch this stuff. Maybe it's just me but sometimes the overly innocent overly righteous main character just gets on my nerves


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Hibiki's saving Miku was really badass and stylish, and the ass kicking she (started) giving that Autoscorer was pretty hardcore. It's too bad they cheated to destroy her gear.
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Poor Hibiki is suffering again. I feel so sorry for her. :(

These new villains are too strong.

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I'm so happy to see Maria in a Symphogear outfit again. It looks like they made it look sexier this time with her armpits and cleavage more exposed. She's so hot!

Dainsleif looks badass with those runic symbols on the blade. I'm a sucker for Norse stuff.
The fight between Hibiki and Micha looked cool despite not lasting long.
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