| Are you seriously asking why straight guys prefer lesbian show over gay show ? |
| Man, I am just fucking done with this shit. This entire thread is a festering cesspool of thinly-veiled homophobia, yurifans shitting on BL fans, and overall nastiness in general. I've gotten tired of fighting with brick walls who only rebound the same points that have been refuted a million times back at me, so fuck this thread. I have better things to do with my life. |
| Well, I like shoujo ai, because it has hot girl that are doing....Things....That make me horny as hell. |
| If it is good, I will watch it. |
Frostav said: Man, I am just fucking done with this shit. This entire thread is a festering cesspool of thinly-veiled homophobia, yurifans shitting on BL fans, and overall nastiness in general. I've gotten tired of fighting with brick walls who only rebound the same points that have been refuted a million times back at me, so fuck this thread. I have better things to do with my life. Why are you taking other people opinion so personal? If you perfer to wank on guys raping each other than go ahead, nobody is stopping you. |
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Red_Keys said: tsudecimo said: It must take effort to be this stupid.I think what's disturbing in yaoi aside from dude fucking each other and the art is the fact that it's target audience is females. I honestly don't get that at all. What is so appealing about it for fujoshi? I find yuri boring while I find yaoi disturbing. Explain why a female should find two dude going at it appealing? I understand the obvious appeal of hot guys but why is the implication of anal sex appealing? Keys said: tsudecimo said: I guess things that you aren't sexually attracted to literally cannot be cute. So kittens? Nah, I don't fap to kittens. Not cute. Puppies? Nah, don't fap. Infants? Ehh, well... is it a female infant? Yea ok I guess that's cute.It's beyond simple. Straight guys can think girls are cute but they can't/don't think boys are cute. Two cute girls being together will still be cute, no matter if they think yuri in itself is cute or not. 1+1= 2 I don't get how you drew this conclusion. You can consider a lot of things cute but saying another guy is ''cute'' is hardly unlikely to come from a straight guy. When was the last time you heard a straight male calling another male ''cute'', unless the male is a child/infant, that scenario seems highly unlikely. Actually there are anime traps but those are feminine and dress in girl clothes, which kinda defeats the point. keys said: tsudecimo said: I'm sorry but I don't find sexualized lolis and shotas ''cute''. tsudecimo said: lol(I'm talking about the Madoka gif btw. The other one gives me a normal boner ._. ) Madoka and Homura are not sexualized lolis, I don't get the point of this ''lol''. |
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tsudecimo said: Red_Keys said: tsudecimo said: It must take effort to be this stupid.I think what's disturbing in yaoi aside from dude fucking each other and the art is the fact that it's target audience is females. I honestly don't get that at all. What is so appealing about it for fujoshi? I find yuri boring while I find yaoi disturbing. Explain why a female should find two dude going at it appealing? I understand the obvious appeal of hot guys but why is the implication of anal sex appealing? Keys said: tsudecimo said: I guess things that you aren't sexually attracted to literally cannot be cute. So kittens? Nah, I don't fap to kittens. Not cute. Puppies? Nah, don't fap. Infants? Ehh, well... is it a female infant? Yea ok I guess that's cute.It's beyond simple. Straight guys can think girls are cute but they can't/don't think boys are cute. Two cute girls being together will still be cute, no matter if they think yuri in itself is cute or not. 1+1= 2 I don't get how you drew this conclusion. You can consider a lot of things cute but saying another guy is ''cute'' is hardly unlikely to come from a straight guy. When was the last time you heard a straight male calling another male ''cute'', unless the male is a child/infant, that scenario seems highly unlikely. Actually there are anime traps but those are feminine and dress in girl clothes, which kinda defeats the point. Maybe it is because they fear being ostracized and called gay. |
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| Maybe they are gay Maybe but the fact remains that is hardly common for a straight guy to call another guy ''cute''. It's just absurd to even think about it ( Awww, look how cute that dude is with his new converse shoes and his new haircut) |
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Red_Keys said: baki502 said: Good lord.Neither do I. But thats because one of them essentially looks like a girl. Its not the fact that its 2 biological men kissing that makes yaoi weird to watch its the fact that they sometimes actually look like men. And then its when its weird. Most of us men have grown with a rather gruff behavior towards each other. We punch each others in the shoulders, we fight, we laugh when someone gets hurt, lets just say we are being rather rough to each other. So seeing 2 guys kiss, a very gentle and soft action, is extremely unnatural and weird, simply because we are used to being rough with each other. And thats just one part of the whole thing. There is also the part that we like the faces and bodies of women. So ofcourse wed rather see 2 girls kissing than 2 guys. Its like some people like playing femal chars in RPGs cause theyd rather stare at a female ass while playing. And dont come with the shit that a kiss isnt sexual. Of course a kiss is sexual. Why do couples kiss before having sex hah? Why does the guy get a boner while kissing a girl if it werent a sexual act at all? By that logic petting, a footjob, anal and everything else that doesnt serve the purpose of breeding isnt sexual either? Your post was almost painful to read. Are you a fucking Neanderthal? Jesus of all fucks, grow the hell up. You know you are completely right. The arguments you provided where so sound and logical it made me change my standpoint completely and realize how right you were all along. I apologize for being such a uneducated fool up to now, but luckily your argumentation has corrected my wrong ways. |
Frostav said: Man, I am just fucking done with this shit. This entire thread is a festering cesspool of thinly-veiled homophobia, yurifans shitting on BL fans, and overall nastiness in general. I've gotten tired of fighting with brick walls who only rebound the same points that have been refuted a million times back at me, so fuck this thread. I have better things to do with my life. Cry sum moar. |
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| this thread is great. i don't like yaoi because i just don't like men really. :l yuri is okay because its just girls. (doesn't porn.) |
| anime with cute girls is my thing. |
tsudecimo said: Explain why a female should find two dude going at it appealing? I understand the obvious appeal of hot guys but why is the implication of anal sex appealing? Because it's two guys. |
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| I want more of a realistic approach to yaoi, in the vein of Totally Captivated. Not the hooking up with your rapist or, SEXSEXSEXSEXSEX approach. Maybe then, I can view the yaoi genre as something some what respectable. Maybe, I'm just expecting too much from a genre that gained most of it's popularity because of "hot bishies." As for shoujo-ai, I actually haven't really watched any shoujo-ai yet. |
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| Honestly I don't judge an anime base on the genre but on the content that being said i will watch anything as long as it does not bore the hell out of me. |
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| People, people, this can be resolved with a simple solution. I introduce to you the futa! People, people, please form an orderly line. You'll all get the chance to congratulate me; Also any manga/ anime about a genderless person? (Not androgynous btw, I mean has no genitalia whatsoever.) |
Korrvo said: I like lolis. I don't like them sexually. It's hard to not like lolis, their cuteness pander to the same emotions that naturally makes us fathers. But it's hard to get off to anything that doesn't have any adult women characteristics like large tits, ass, and thighs. http://imgur.com/qgjKHGn |
1L0can0 said: No.People, people, this can be resolved with a simple solution. I introduce to you the futa! 1L0can0 said: Also curious about this.Also any manga/ anime about a genderless person? (Not androgynous btw, I mean has no genitalia whatsoever.) |
Mizusi said: 1L0can0 said: No.People, people, this can be resolved with a simple solution. I introduce to you the futa! 1L0can0 said: Also curious about this.Also any manga/ anime about a genderless person? (Not androgynous btw, I mean has no genitalia whatsoever.) But theoretically it should satisfy(in more ways than one ;D) both fan bases. Here's some I found via recommendations: http://myanimelist.net/manga/22150/Magnolia http://myanimelist.net/manga/585/Hourou_Musuko(just by the cover, they both look like guys.) |
Korrvo said: I like lolis. I don't like them sexually. It's hard to not like lolis, their cuteness pander to the same emotions that naturally makes us fathers. But it's hard to get off to anything that doesn't have any adult women characteristics like large tits, ass, and thighs. http://imgur.com/qgjKHGn |
| It's probably because there are more male anime fans who go on forums/websites like MAL and voice their opinions more. Like, 99% of 4ch seems to be male. And most straight guys tend to like yuri/shoujo ai. On the other hand, if you go on Tumblr, livejournal, or any other place with a large anime community that is mostly female, you'll find that yaoi/shounen-ai gets a lot more attention. Personally, I'm okay with both but I prefer shounen-ai a little more since a lot of yuri is very male-oriented. |
Adair said: It's probably because there are more male anime fans who go on forums/websites like MAL and voice their opinions more. Like, 99% of 4ch seems to be male. And most straight guys tend to like yuri/shoujo ai. On the other hand, if you go on Tumblr, livejournal, or any other place with a large anime community that is mostly female, you'll find that yaoi/shounen-ai gets a lot more attention. Personally, I'm okay with both but I prefer shounen-ai a little more since a lot of yuri is very male-oriented. Yuri is male-oriented? How exactly is it male-oriented? I watched Candyboy(my fave yuri/shoujo-ai anime btw :3) and that was hella touchy-feely and imho didn't seem to cater to males at all; The Yuri/ Shoujo ai club on MAL has more females than males in it if that accounts for something. |
Korrvo said: I like lolis. I don't like them sexually. It's hard to not like lolis, their cuteness pander to the same emotions that naturally makes us fathers. But it's hard to get off to anything that doesn't have any adult women characteristics like large tits, ass, and thighs. http://imgur.com/qgjKHGn |
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FreakyTy said: For me I like Shoujo ai because the love seems more innocent and pure, plus I like cute girls. Shounen ai just feels dirty or something. I can't really explain it. In general I have nothing against gays whether they're males or females, the same holds true for anime. I just don't want to watch two guys because that's my preference, I also don't hate on the shounen ai genre. I assume the people who do just don't like and have nothing better to do, simple really. I used to think that too, but you have to try it out, search for shounen ai with slice of life genre, you might come to like it XD Unless you dislike slice of life that is. Or you could find those serious manga that deals with homosexuality, they don't always go with sex or romantic stuff, more of dealing with psychological stuff.. Edit: But of course, avoid yaoi. |
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1L0can0 said: I believe in Japan both Yaoi and Yuri are both aimed predominantly at straight females.Adair said: It's probably because there are more male anime fans who go on forums/websites like MAL and voice their opinions more. Like, 99% of 4ch seems to be male. And most straight guys tend to like yuri/shoujo ai. On the other hand, if you go on Tumblr, livejournal, or any other place with a large anime community that is mostly female, you'll find that yaoi/shounen-ai gets a lot more attention. Personally, I'm okay with both but I prefer shounen-ai a little more since a lot of yuri is very male-oriented. Yuri is male-oriented? How exactly is it male-oriented? I watched Candyboy(my fave yuri/shoujo-ai anime btw :3) and that was hella touchy-feely and imho didn't seem to cater to males at all; The Yuri/ Shoujo ai club on MAL has more females than males in it if that accounts for something. |
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IntroverTurtle said: 1L0can0 said: I believe in Japan both Yaoi and Yuri are both aimed predominantly at straight females.Adair said: It's probably because there are more male anime fans who go on forums/websites like MAL and voice their opinions more. Like, 99% of 4ch seems to be male. And most straight guys tend to like yuri/shoujo ai. On the other hand, if you go on Tumblr, livejournal, or any other place with a large anime community that is mostly female, you'll find that yaoi/shounen-ai gets a lot more attention. Personally, I'm okay with both but I prefer shounen-ai a little more since a lot of yuri is very male-oriented. Yuri is male-oriented? How exactly is it male-oriented? I watched Candyboy(my fave yuri/shoujo-ai anime btw :3) and that was hella touchy-feely and imho didn't seem to cater to males at all; The Yuri/ Shoujo ai club on MAL has more females than males in it if that accounts for something. Which is weird by the way, as many guys would just flat-out say that Girl-on-girl is hot. |
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012yArthur0 said: IntroverTurtle said: 1L0can0 said: I believe in Japan both Yaoi and Yuri are both aimed predominantly at straight females.Adair said: It's probably because there are more male anime fans who go on forums/websites like MAL and voice their opinions more. Like, 99% of 4ch seems to be male. And most straight guys tend to like yuri/shoujo ai. On the other hand, if you go on Tumblr, livejournal, or any other place with a large anime community that is mostly female, you'll find that yaoi/shounen-ai gets a lot more attention. Personally, I'm okay with both but I prefer shounen-ai a little more since a lot of yuri is very male-oriented. Yuri is male-oriented? How exactly is it male-oriented? I watched Candyboy(my fave yuri/shoujo-ai anime btw :3) and that was hella touchy-feely and imho didn't seem to cater to males at all; The Yuri/ Shoujo ai club on MAL has more females than males in it if that accounts for something. Which is weird by the way, as many guys would just flat-out say that Girl-on-girl is hot. "Girl-on-girl is hot" should be enough to end this thread. Why it is still open I can't comprehend. |
012yArthur0 said: IntroverTurtle said: 1L0can0 said: I believe in Japan both Yaoi and Yuri are both aimed predominantly at straight females.Adair said: It's probably because there are more male anime fans who go on forums/websites like MAL and voice their opinions more. Like, 99% of 4ch seems to be male. And most straight guys tend to like yuri/shoujo ai. On the other hand, if you go on Tumblr, livejournal, or any other place with a large anime community that is mostly female, you'll find that yaoi/shounen-ai gets a lot more attention. Personally, I'm okay with both but I prefer shounen-ai a little more since a lot of yuri is very male-oriented. Yuri is male-oriented? How exactly is it male-oriented? I watched Candyboy(my fave yuri/shoujo-ai anime btw :3) and that was hella touchy-feely and imho didn't seem to cater to males at all; The Yuri/ Shoujo ai club on MAL has more females than males in it if that accounts for something. Which is weird by the way, as many guys would just flat-out say that Girl-on-girl is hot. Yes but its not only that, I get hella emotionally attached to them. That is also the reason why I have Azunyan x Yui as my avatar: Because they were the first yuri couple I have shipped and they look hella kawaii together(Idk who's supposed to be the guy tho, there's this hella cute pic of Yui kissing Azunyan and Azunyan looks hella surprised by it makes it even look cuter and it always makes me go "kyaaaaa!!!!!!!!!! :3 everytime I see it.) |
Korrvo said: I like lolis. I don't like them sexually. It's hard to not like lolis, their cuteness pander to the same emotions that naturally makes us fathers. But it's hard to get off to anything that doesn't have any adult women characteristics like large tits, ass, and thighs. http://imgur.com/qgjKHGn |
| If you're bothered by two animated men sharing an intimate moment then maybe you should just grow the fuck up. |
Makomonogatari said: lupadim said: The best part is that you somehow actually exist.And the best part is that no one can prove it wrong |
1L0can0 said: Ha, no.But theoretically it should satisfy(in more ways than one ;D) both fan bases. 1L0can0 said: Sounds like complete crap and the art is hideous.http://myanimelist.net/manga/22150/Magnolia 1L0can0 said: Already on my plan to read/watch list because it's from the same author of Aoi Hana.http://myanimelist.net/manga/585/Hourou_Musuko(just by the cover, they both look like guys.) |
gstaad said: If you're bothered by two animated men sharing an intimate moment then maybe you should just grow the fuck up. Hey now, not that watching chinese cartoons is a true sign of maturity. Sorry, I just had to say it. |
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Mizusi said: 1L0can0 said: Ha, no.But theoretically it should satisfy(in more ways than one ;D) both fan bases. 1L0can0 said: Sounds like complete crap and the art is hideous.http://myanimelist.net/manga/22150/Magnolia 1L0can0 said: Already on my plan to read/watch list because it's from the same author of Aoi Hana.http://myanimelist.net/manga/585/Hourou_Musuko(just by the cover, they both look like guys.) That reminds me, I need to start watching Aoi Hana. |
Korrvo said: I like lolis. I don't like them sexually. It's hard to not like lolis, their cuteness pander to the same emotions that naturally makes us fathers. But it's hard to get off to anything that doesn't have any adult women characteristics like large tits, ass, and thighs. http://imgur.com/qgjKHGn |
1L0can0 said: Well, yeah, you should.That reminds me, I need to start watching Aoi Hana. |
gstaad said: If you're bothered by two animated men sharing an intimate moment then maybe you should just grow the fuck up. Pretty much. You guys are acting like "eww I cant watch cartoon men be intimate with each other or I'll turn gay!" |
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1L0can0 said: fucking wiki **go to bleach eyes.**People, people, this can be resolved with a simple solution. I introduce to you the futa! People, people, please form an orderly line. You'll all get the chance to congratulate me; Also any manga/ anime about a genderless person? (Not androgynous btw, I mean has no genitalia whatsoever.) |
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1L0can0 said: Mizusi said: 1L0can0 said: Ha, no.But theoretically it should satisfy(in more ways than one ;D) both fan bases. 1L0can0 said: Sounds like complete crap and the art is hideous.http://myanimelist.net/manga/22150/Magnolia 1L0can0 said: Already on my plan to read/watch list because it's from the same author of Aoi Hana.http://myanimelist.net/manga/585/Hourou_Musuko(just by the cover, they both look like guys.) That reminds me, I need to start watching Aoi Hana. As long as you plan to read the manga too, yeah you should. |
| Just a friendly reminder that a lot of people do not read BL romances because they consider it to be boring, and because its not aimed at them(aside from trap romances). Its the same reason I don't watch reverse harems or shoujo romances, I got better things to do. 012yArthur0 said: IntroverTurtle said: 1L0can0 said: I believe in Japan both Yaoi and Yuri are both aimed predominantly at straight females.Adair said: It's probably because there are more male anime fans who go on forums/websites like MAL and voice their opinions more. Like, 99% of 4ch seems to be male. And most straight guys tend to like yuri/shoujo ai. On the other hand, if you go on Tumblr, livejournal, or any other place with a large anime community that is mostly female, you'll find that yaoi/shounen-ai gets a lot more attention. Personally, I'm okay with both but I prefer shounen-ai a little more since a lot of yuri is very male-oriented. Yuri is male-oriented? How exactly is it male-oriented? I watched Candyboy(my fave yuri/shoujo-ai anime btw :3) and that was hella touchy-feely and imho didn't seem to cater to males at all; The Yuri/ Shoujo ai club on MAL has more females than males in it if that accounts for something. Which is weird by the way, as many guys would just flat-out say that Girl-on-girl is hot. Yuri porn and yuri romance are different from each other. Yuri romance is not made(both the ones aimed at females and males) to arouse the viewer/reader. |
rederoinJan 18, 2014 6:30 AM
| As a straight male, I do enjoy Yuri, but I find Yaoi gross. Gay men = gross Gay women = hot It's always been like that in my mind and I can't explain it. The sole fact that males exchange saliva and the whole thing is just...brrr..not very attractice to say the least. Has anyone wondere why it is perceived this way? I have a theory. I know how gross a male's body can be. Stinky, bad breath, unclean. The male smell and feel is just different. Women are more pure and clean, you know? If you don't, I can't explain it to you idk :D so 2 clean nice smelling and looking women is good. but men :S nah |
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| Well, I've since recovered and thus I might as well help Red_Keys again. rederoin said: Just a friendly reminder that a lot of people do not read BL romances because they consider it to be boring, and because its not aimed at them(aside from trap romances). Yeah, and why do they consider it boring? Because they're homophobes. You're the perfect example of the homophobic yurifan I hate. Double standards everywhere when it comes to lesbians. Your use of "boring" is blatant trolling designed to stealthily insult BL without actually coming out and saying it. Sorry, but you can't get away with it around some of us. As Gstaad said, grow the fuck up. asume5 said: Orsonius said: i have no problems with shounen ai. watched Boku no Pico 2 times in a row and would watch the other parts. But lolis are where I am at. As long as it has lolis in it I'm all for it! My condolences BnP is one of the highest quality hentai anime ever released and very good if you're a trap/BL/shota fan, so I have no idea why you're acting like that. |
FrostavJan 18, 2014 8:56 AM
Frostav said: Well, I've since recovered and thus I might as well help Red_Keys again. rederoin said: Just a friendly reminder that a lot of people do not read BL romances because they consider it to be boring, and because its not aimed at them(aside from trap romances). Yeah, and why do they consider it boring? Because they're homophobes. You're the perfect example of the homophobic yurifan I hate. Double standards everywhere when it comes to lesbians. Your use of "boring" is blatant trolling designed to stealthily insult BL without actually coming out and saying it. Sorry, but you can't get away with it around some of us. As Gstaad said, grow the fuck up. What kind of logic is that? People find yaoi anime boring cause they are homophobes? What if I find romance anime to be generally boring? What does that make me? Asexual? No honestly whenever I watch a romance anime the main reason is never the romance itself. Its 90% of the time because of the comedy or sometimes because of something weird in it (Misteryous Girlfriend X anyone?). Sometimes because of cute girls. But Yaoi has simply nothing interesting in it. I dont care about romance, I have no interest in guys, nor do I find them cute, nor are most of yaoi anime hilarious comedies. |
baki502 said: What kind of logic is that? People find yaoi anime boring cause they are homophobes? What if I find romance anime to be generally boring? What does that make me? Asexual? Us Asexuals are truly the most oppressed group in the anime fandom. How can we possibly live our lives like this? Frostav said: Well, I've since recovered and thus I might as well help Red_Keys again. Yeah, and why do they consider it boring? Because they're homophobes. You're the perfect example of the homophobic yurifan I hate. Double standards everywhere when it comes to lesbians. Your use of "boring" is blatant trolling designed to stealthily insult BL without actually coming out and saying it. Sorry, but you can't get away with it around some of us. As Gstaad said, grow the fuck up. I find romance series aimed at woman/girls(and most of those aimed at men) to be boring. It just so happens that it includes 99.999% of all BL romance series, I fail to see how that is related to homophobia. |
rederoinJan 18, 2014 9:36 AM
| I am a straight male and I'm a big Yuri and Shoujo ai fan. I can't say I have watched actual Yaoi anime, but I have enjoyed several Shounen ai moments in anime. Most people who like Yuri/Shoujo ai and think Yaoi/Shounen ai is gross, are watching these genres to get aroused. If they are straight, they aren't getting aroused from two guys kissing. Some of us though, are actually watching for the romance stories. So, a sweet kiss or romantic moment between the same sexes is a good moment no matter if they are male or female. |
KingYoshiJan 18, 2014 9:42 AM
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iNaruX said: As a straight male, I do enjoy Yuri, but I find Yaoi gross. Gay men = gross Gay women = hot It's always been like that in my mind and I can't explain it. The sole fact that males exchange saliva and the whole thing is just...brrr..not very attractice to say the least. Has anyone wondere why it is perceived this way? I have a theory. I know how gross a male's body can be. Stinky, bad breath, unclean. The male smell and feel is just different. Women are more pure and clean, you know? If you don't, I can't explain it to you idk :D so 2 clean nice smelling and looking women is good. but men :S nah You know what's weird? that women think mostly same Gay men = hot Gay women = gross and it won't change if you're not bisexual or homosexual because as straight person you can't/don't want to imagine people of same gender as you getting it on. |
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| I wonder why can't people can't leave things they don't like? You hate yaoi?don't watch it You hate yuro?don't watch it it's this simply |
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Crazy_Cofee_Cat said: I wonder why can't people can't leave things they don't like? You hate yaoi?don't watch it You hate yuro?don't watch it it's this simply Like I said in my first post: "Because fuck you, this is the internet". It's as simple as that. |
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yhunata said: Crazy_Cofee_Cat said: I wonder why can't people can't leave things they don't like? You hate yaoi?don't watch it You hate yuro?don't watch it it's this simply Like I said in my first post: "Because fuck you, this is the internet". It's as simple as that. You made me admit defeat. legit point http://img.pandawhale.com/36243-slow-clap-citizen-kane-orson-w-bJkI.gif |
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