| Thread rewritten to remove personal storytelling. I rarely drop anime, since I usually just start the ones I think I'll like to begin with, but if I do drop it, I don't rate it. I thought that this explained why I rarely had something rated less than 5/10. Seeing some comments online, however, there are some people who seem heavily opinionated about certain seasonals, and that made me think: Perhaps they were correct and I was either being lenient or not good at analysis/criticism? This made me realize that the community seems to rarely explain why they love or hate certain anime unless prompted, things seem to usually work by peer pressure. What's the best way, them, to understand their feelings? |
| Well you can just ask them directly or speculate as to why, sometime it's herd mentality to fit in or because it's the popular thing to do (like hating on sao) and sometimes there are genuine reasons for the hate. |
| Interesting. For example, a good amount of ppl hate School Days. Not bc of herd mentality or anything like that, but bc the series is simply not good. Sure, there might be sum parts where ur like "yes" this happened, but its become very hard imo, to find ANYONE who somehow likes the series outside a few moments. Tho, u are very right to question one's feelings when it comes to why they might love or hate any type of anime. The love is easy, but the hate is much harder since everyone has different reasons to hate a series. Whether its the series being boring/not enjoyable, without substance, slow pacing, characters can't be resonated with, art or animation issues, etc. Another example is Spy x Family. Imo, I had decent hopes for this series and after sum time, I realized the series was gonna take a very long time before the romance could ever happen. I had to drop the manga after around 70 chs and s1. I think the true best way to understand their feelings is to try the series that they enjoy or hate, and see for urself as to why they have such a feeling directed to the anime of choice. Or simply ask why and pray its a normal anime fan who can articulate themselves. I don't think its that "they were correct" per say, but the fact that everyone has different "expectations" to what they want a anime or manga to do in order to get you to continue to consume the series. If Spy X Family was a bit faster paced and let the romance develop instead of giving us bait, addressing plot points at times, and then random filler whenever I try to peep what the series is doing, just makes it harder to like again. |
 "Hard work is worthless for those that don’t believe in themselves" - Naruto Uzumaki I rate by enjoyment |
| I do find it odd the sheer amount of people who hate the seasonal anime that they watch. In a lot of cases, we have a synopsis, a trailer, potential source material reviews/experience so, in most cases, I think viewers should be going into most shows at least with a fairly good level of (I guess) research, and yet, so many episode discussions are filled with comments about how bad something is. We all make mistakes and some shows will turn out a lot worse than even the most prepared of us could possibly imagine, but yes, I am agreement with you that it does seem both a lot and quite drastic how much people can dislike the shows they've picked up. |
| Because its fun being a hater. Its fun to argue with someone on something stupid and inconsequential. But this doesn't answer why would someone even watch something they dislike. Because you can spread agenda without consuming that media. I was like that too, until I did my first hate watch with Lazarus. Some things can be both bad and entertaining, its like an addiction, you know this is a waste of time but you keep coming back. Oh and it was hella fun trashing Lazarus. Other than that, some people have a no drop policy for some reason, and feel obligated to complete anything they started no matter what. I can't explain their mentality |
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| boy, you're in for a treat. I will tell you why I hate every single anime I do. index s3: they compressed the show so badly it felt like reading a checklist of events instead of watching anime. events were also heavily downplayed. and let's not forget the impossible fistfight. one punch man s2: I don't think this needs explanation. from one of the most gorgeous and well animated passion project, to the worst, most hideous slop ever made. disgusting. rebuild 3: it was obnoxious, 4th wall breaking, destroyed what the 2nd film built up, it was boring, and they pissed off the audience on purpose according to what the characters say. it made me hate evangelion as a whole. majo demo steady: this is a bad acid trip. not anime. almost stopped watching anime entirely because it was that bad. oreimo: worst, ungrateful tsundere bitch ever created and her doormat brother humiliating himself for her every episode. I despise them so much it's unreal. kill la kill: this show is a mess. they dropped plotlines, it was "safe edgy" mako ruining every moment, the ending was a huge letdown. it was a cartoony cartoon, with cartoony violence, and the animation just got worse and worse. pupa: it was very poorly made, the art was horrid, the short episodes did an awful job telling the story. they were just glimpses of events, disjointed. tokyo ghoul: antifun mc had to endure weeks of torture just to be okay with existing. people love to shit on shinji but kaneki is next level pathetic. little witch academia (tv): after the incredible movie they made, they redid the entire thing but infinitely worse. the mc is now a looney tunes character, butt of every joke, a complete idiot. worst of all she stirs up world ending shit every week and gets away with "oh you", never punished. the animation is also piss poor later on. absolute waste of time, and they ruined the good feelings left by the original. FLCL Alternative: shit nobody asked for, and the original creator was against. it's awful on top. they clearly didn't understand the original. Maou-sama, Retry!: lowest effort isekai slop with laughably bad qc issues in general. they didn't even try. shield hero: nonstop raging naofumi is now nonstop sad naofumi. he's sad even when unlocking the shield of rage. raphtalia is now holier than you, letting her torturer go because "she's not like him", the queen orders the king and bitch to get executed when they wronged naofumi and not her. what the absolute fuck were they thinking? Violet Evergarden: extremely repetitive, baioretto chan is boring, dumb, insensitive. someone gets mad at her for being autistic then she writes a one word letter and everyone cries their eyes out what a nice girls she is. it's irritating and gets old after two times. |
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boy, you're in for a treat. I will tell you why I hate every single anime I do.
index s3: they compressed the show so badly it felt like reading a checklist of events instead of watching anime. events were also heavily downplayed.
and let's not forget the impossible fistfight.
one punch man s2: I don't think this needs explanation. from one of the most gorgeous and well animated passion project, to the worst, most hideous slop ever made.
disgusting.
rebuild 3: it was obnoxious, 4th wall breaking, destroyed what the 2nd film built up, it was boring, and they pissed off the audience on purpose according to what the characters say. it made me hate evangelion as a whole.
majo demo steady: this is a bad acid trip. not anime. almost stopped watching anime entirely because it was that bad.
oreimo: worst, ungrateful tsundere bitch ever created and her doormat brother humiliating himself for her every episode. I despise them so much it's unreal.
kill la kill: this show is a mess. they dropped plotlines, it was "safe edgy" mako ruining every moment, the ending was a huge letdown. it was a cartoony cartoon, with cartoony violence, and the animation just got worse and worse.
pupa: it was very poorly made, the art was horrid, the short episodes did an awful job telling the story. they were just glimpses of events, disjointed.
tokyo ghoul: antifun mc had to endure weeks of torture just to be okay with existing. people love to shit on shinji but kaneki is next level pathetic.
little witch academia (tv): after the incredible movie they made, they redid the entire thing but infinitely worse. the mc is now a looney tunes character, butt of every joke, a complete idiot. worst of all she stirs up world ending shit every week and gets away with "oh you", never punished. the animation is also piss poor later on. absolute waste of time, and they ruined the good feelings left by the original.
FLCL Alternative: shit nobody asked for, and the original creator was against. it's awful on top. they clearly didn't understand the original.
Maou-sama, Retry!: lowest effort isekai slop with laughably bad qc issues in general. they didn't even try.
shield hero: nonstop raging naofumi is now nonstop sad naofumi. he's sad even when unlocking the shield of rage. raphtalia is now holier than you, letting her torturer go because "she's not like him", the queen orders the king and bitch to get executed when they wronged naofumi and not her. what the absolute fuck were they thinking?
Violet Evergarden: extremely repetitive, baioretto chan is boring, dumb, insensitive. someone gets mad at her for being autistic then she writes a one word letter and everyone cries their eyes out what a nice girls she is. it's irritating and gets old after two times.
index s3: they compressed the show so badly it felt like reading a checklist of events instead of watching anime. events were also heavily downplayed.
and let's not forget the impossible fistfight.
one punch man s2: I don't think this needs explanation. from one of the most gorgeous and well animated passion project, to the worst, most hideous slop ever made.
disgusting.
rebuild 3: it was obnoxious, 4th wall breaking, destroyed what the 2nd film built up, it was boring, and they pissed off the audience on purpose according to what the characters say. it made me hate evangelion as a whole.
majo demo steady: this is a bad acid trip. not anime. almost stopped watching anime entirely because it was that bad.
oreimo: worst, ungrateful tsundere bitch ever created and her doormat brother humiliating himself for her every episode. I despise them so much it's unreal.
kill la kill: this show is a mess. they dropped plotlines, it was "safe edgy" mako ruining every moment, the ending was a huge letdown. it was a cartoony cartoon, with cartoony violence, and the animation just got worse and worse.
pupa: it was very poorly made, the art was horrid, the short episodes did an awful job telling the story. they were just glimpses of events, disjointed.
tokyo ghoul: antifun mc had to endure weeks of torture just to be okay with existing. people love to shit on shinji but kaneki is next level pathetic.
little witch academia (tv): after the incredible movie they made, they redid the entire thing but infinitely worse. the mc is now a looney tunes character, butt of every joke, a complete idiot. worst of all she stirs up world ending shit every week and gets away with "oh you", never punished. the animation is also piss poor later on. absolute waste of time, and they ruined the good feelings left by the original.
FLCL Alternative: shit nobody asked for, and the original creator was against. it's awful on top. they clearly didn't understand the original.
Maou-sama, Retry!: lowest effort isekai slop with laughably bad qc issues in general. they didn't even try.
shield hero: nonstop raging naofumi is now nonstop sad naofumi. he's sad even when unlocking the shield of rage. raphtalia is now holier than you, letting her torturer go because "she's not like him", the queen orders the king and bitch to get executed when they wronged naofumi and not her. what the absolute fuck were they thinking?
Violet Evergarden: extremely repetitive, baioretto chan is boring, dumb, insensitive. someone gets mad at her for being autistic then she writes a one word letter and everyone cries their eyes out what a nice girls she is. it's irritating and gets old after two times.
| @nyugvo6 I order to prove the point I made above, I'll get into a pointless argument with this stranger. nyugvo6 said: kill la kill: this show is a mess. they dropped plotlines, it was "safe edgy" mako ruining every moment, the ending was a huge letdown. it was a cartoony cartoon, with cartoony violence, and the animation just got worse and worse. safe edgy? Calling a show with near constant fanservice safe, and scenes full of shit and giggles edgy is peak media illiteracy. Oh sorry it has cartoony fights instead of realistic gore |
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| thing is, I enjoy watching anime, it has to be incredibly bad for me to drop it, I already have enough info from pictures, synopsis and pvs. But that doesn't mean it's obligatory good, unexpected things can happen. I know why I hate the anime I hate but I won't use my time to write paragraphs on mal, it's simple to just say huntrash garbage is trash. I rarely drop anime because if I started them, that means I already found something cool in them. |
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@nyugvo6 I order to prove the point I made above, I'll get into a pointless argument with this stranger.
safe edgy? Calling a show with near constant fanservice safe, and scenes full of shit and giggles edgy is peak media illiteracy. Oh sorry it has cartoony fights instead of realistic gore
nyugvo6 said:
kill la kill: this show is a mess. they dropped plotlines, it was "safe edgy" mako ruining every moment, the ending was a huge letdown. it was a cartoony cartoon, with cartoony violence, and the animation just got worse and worse.
kill la kill: this show is a mess. they dropped plotlines, it was "safe edgy" mako ruining every moment, the ending was a huge letdown. it was a cartoony cartoon, with cartoony violence, and the animation just got worse and worse.
safe edgy? Calling a show with near constant fanservice safe, and scenes full of shit and giggles edgy is peak media illiteracy. Oh sorry it has cartoony fights instead of realistic gore
| @FiendishChan how many nipples have you seen in klk? (that weren't on men) or cunts, pubes? thought so. panty&stockings has more full frontal nudity. " scenes full of shit and giggles edgy" that's the thing, it's either shit and giggles OR edgy. otherwise it turns into a roller coaster, not committing to either. the two doesn't mix well. |
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I think you answered this yourself, Just ask people if you think they had interesting opinions. thewiru said: Perhaps they were correct and I was either being lenient or not good at analysis/criticism? Maybe this is Just your insecurity talking again. While it might be true that you overrated some shows, like how you were shilling Necronomico (finally it got an appropriate rating), it's also important to be confident in your opinions. |
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thewiru said: Perhaps they were correct and I was either being lenient or not good at analysis/criticism? I don't feel entitled to believe that you have to hate what I hate, everyone's taste is different. In order for me to hate, it needs to be: - boring - bad writing (bad is the opposite of unique, since good writing is by definition something most people can't do) - sometimes, how people talk about it online can enhance an already existing hatred (AoT, Dandadan) It's something very personal, since I can forgive bad writing when the whole experience is enjoyable. |
| "How to understand why people hate certain anime?" Aside of directly asking them? Knowing them or even reading between the lines of what they have written, can tell you a lot. For example if not obvious I am not the biggest fan of battle shounen. It must to be an original idea or really funny one like DanDaDan or Shin Samurai-den Yaiba for me to appreciate it. Thus don't expect me to like stuff as Kimetsu no Yaiba. Same with sport shounen. And another thing, I dislike melodrama. "but if I do drop it, I don't rate it. I thought that this explained why I rarely had something rated less than 5/10" In my case my rates are notes to myself, so I don't care about my mean score. "This made me realize that the community seems to rarely explain why they love or hate certain anime unless prompted" Welcome to the 20s! And if you specifically ask for explanation expect "bad writing.", "bad structure", "poor characterizations", "too much exposition", "bad animation" or some weird pseudo political stuff (coming from haters and trolls). By the way I haven't seen OP explaining in details why he dislikes certain anime either. "What's the best way, them, to understand their feelings?" As mentioned above, knowing the person in question. |
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I think you answered this yourself, Just ask people if you think they had interesting opinions.
thewiru said:
Perhaps they were correct and I was either being lenient or not good at analysis/criticism?
Perhaps they were correct and I was either being lenient or not good at analysis/criticism?
Maybe this is Just your insecurity talking again. While it might be true that you overrated some shows, like how you were shilling Necronomico (finally it got an appropriate rating), it's also important to be confident in your opinions.
Hiyajo-san said: While it might be true that you overrated some shows, like how you were shilling Necronomico (finally it got an appropriate rating), it's also important to be confident in your opinions. I think it was less "shilling" and more that I was flabbergasted by the absurd score it received for no good reason. It had a strong start, though it's first half had pacing issues and it overall didn't do anything really spectacular, though there has some very interesting stuff in the last three episodes. Low 6/10, might fall to a 5/10. My main issue (And the one I went into more detailed in the original removed version of this thread) referred more to shows like Turkey!, which sure had issues and I was an early defender of it for trying something new and original, but I can't understand people giving it a 1-2/10. Granted, me giving 5/10's to stuff like Kamitsubaki-shi Kensetsuchuu and Tsuyokute New Saga, which I can easily imagine people giving 3 or lower, is also what made me create this thread. |
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"How to understand why people hate certain anime?"
Aside of directly asking them?
Knowing them or even reading between the lines of what they have written, can tell you a lot.
For example if not obvious I am not the biggest fan of battle shounen. It must to be an original idea or really funny one like DanDaDan or Shin Samurai-den Yaiba for me to appreciate it. Thus don't expect me to like stuff as Kimetsu no Yaiba.
Same with sport shounen.
And another thing, I dislike melodrama.
"but if I do drop it, I don't rate it. I thought that this explained why I rarely had something rated less than 5/10"
In my case my rates are notes to myself, so I don't care about my mean score.
"This made me realize that the community seems to rarely explain why they love or hate certain anime unless prompted"
Welcome to the 20s!
And if you specifically ask for explanation expect "bad writing.", "bad structure", "poor characterizations", "too much exposition", "bad animation" or some weird pseudo political stuff (coming from haters and trolls).
By the way I haven't seen OP explaining in details why he dislikes certain anime either.
"What's the best way, them, to understand their feelings?"
As mentioned above, knowing the person in question.
Aside of directly asking them?
Knowing them or even reading between the lines of what they have written, can tell you a lot.
For example if not obvious I am not the biggest fan of battle shounen. It must to be an original idea or really funny one like DanDaDan or Shin Samurai-den Yaiba for me to appreciate it. Thus don't expect me to like stuff as Kimetsu no Yaiba.
Same with sport shounen.
And another thing, I dislike melodrama.
"but if I do drop it, I don't rate it. I thought that this explained why I rarely had something rated less than 5/10"
In my case my rates are notes to myself, so I don't care about my mean score.
"This made me realize that the community seems to rarely explain why they love or hate certain anime unless prompted"
Welcome to the 20s!
And if you specifically ask for explanation expect "bad writing.", "bad structure", "poor characterizations", "too much exposition", "bad animation" or some weird pseudo political stuff (coming from haters and trolls).
By the way I haven't seen OP explaining in details why he dislikes certain anime either.
"What's the best way, them, to understand their feelings?"
As mentioned above, knowing the person in question.
alshu said: By the way I haven't seen OP explaining in details why he dislikes certain anime either. I did write a pretty lengthy Turn A Gundam review, though. I do remember talking about anime I disliked on Discord on Twitter, probably did here a few times too since I once saw an user here making a reference to it. |
How to understand why people hate certain anime? By reading their posts about the anime in question. |
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@FiendishChan
how many nipples have you seen in klk? (that weren't on men) or cunts, pubes? thought so. panty&stockings has more full frontal nudity.
" scenes full of shit and giggles edgy"
that's the thing, it's either shit and giggles OR edgy. otherwise it turns into a roller coaster, not committing to either. the two doesn't mix well.
how many nipples have you seen in klk? (that weren't on men) or cunts, pubes? thought so. panty&stockings has more full frontal nudity.
" scenes full of shit and giggles edgy"
that's the thing, it's either shit and giggles OR edgy. otherwise it turns into a roller coaster, not committing to either. the two doesn't mix well.
| @nyugvo6 what censorship does to a mf... You know what I hate, I hate when they don't draw male nipples, its not even lewd just feels weird. Anyway back to KilllaKill. It doesnt need to commit to only one thing. Full on edgy becomes Tokyo Ghoul, and vice versa. Emotional roller coasters are great, 20mins of only one emotion gets boring fast. They chill, lock in, comedic relief and lock in again. It mixes perfectly. |
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thewiru said: I rarely drop anime, since I usually just start the ones I think I'll like to begin with, but if I do drop it, I don't rate it. I thought that this explained why I rarely had something rated less than 5/10. Seeing some comments online, however, there are some people who seem heavily opinionated about certain seasonals, and that made me think: Perhaps they were correct and I was either being lenient or not good at analysis/criticism? This made me realize that the community seems to rarely explain why they love or hate certain anime unless prompted, things seem to usually work by peer pressure. What's the best way, them, to understand their feelings? I know using your brain is good for you, but... you think too much They are neither correct nor wrong, they just have their way of doing things and their personal taste, and you have your way of doing things and your personal taste The only thing i'll say is, well not wrong, but imbecillic, is hiking up or lowering scores due to peer pressure |
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@nyugvo6 what censorship does to a mf... You know what I hate, I hate when they don't draw male nipples, its not even lewd just feels weird. Anyway back to KilllaKill. It doesnt need to commit to only one thing. Full on edgy becomes Tokyo Ghoul, and vice versa. Emotional roller coasters are great, 20mins of only one emotion gets boring fast. They chill, lock in, comedic relief and lock in again. It mixes perfectly.
| @FiendishChan " I hate when they don't draw male nipples, its not even lewd just feels weird." 100% agreed. I don't mind comedic scenes either, just not when it's at the peak of tension. |
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Interesting. For example, a good amount of ppl hate School Days. Not bc of herd mentality or anything like that, but bc the series is simply not good. Sure, there might be sum parts where ur like "yes" this happened, but its become very hard imo, to find ANYONE who somehow likes the series outside a few moments.
Tho, u are very right to question one's feelings when it comes to why they might love or hate any type of anime. The love is easy, but the hate is much harder since everyone has different reasons to hate a series. Whether its the series being boring/not enjoyable, without substance, slow pacing, characters can't be resonated with, art or animation issues, etc.
Another example is Spy x Family. Imo, I had decent hopes for this series and after sum time, I realized the series was gonna take a very long time before the romance could ever happen. I had to drop the manga after around 70 chs and s1.
I think the true best way to understand their feelings is to try the series that they enjoy or hate, and see for urself as to why they have such a feeling directed to the anime of choice. Or simply ask why and pray its a normal anime fan who can articulate themselves. I don't think its that "they were correct" per say, but the fact that everyone has different "expectations" to what they want a anime or manga to do in order to get you to continue to consume the series.
If Spy X Family was a bit faster paced and let the romance develop instead of giving us bait, addressing plot points at times, and then random filler whenever I try to peep what the series is doing, just makes it harder to like again.
Tho, u are very right to question one's feelings when it comes to why they might love or hate any type of anime. The love is easy, but the hate is much harder since everyone has different reasons to hate a series. Whether its the series being boring/not enjoyable, without substance, slow pacing, characters can't be resonated with, art or animation issues, etc.
Another example is Spy x Family. Imo, I had decent hopes for this series and after sum time, I realized the series was gonna take a very long time before the romance could ever happen. I had to drop the manga after around 70 chs and s1.
I think the true best way to understand their feelings is to try the series that they enjoy or hate, and see for urself as to why they have such a feeling directed to the anime of choice. Or simply ask why and pray its a normal anime fan who can articulate themselves. I don't think its that "they were correct" per say, but the fact that everyone has different "expectations" to what they want a anime or manga to do in order to get you to continue to consume the series.
If Spy X Family was a bit faster paced and let the romance develop instead of giving us bait, addressing plot points at times, and then random filler whenever I try to peep what the series is doing, just makes it harder to like again.
JayDaAnimeLord said: Another example is Spy x Family. Imo, I had decent hopes for this series and after sum time, I realized the series was gonna take a very long time before the romance could ever happen. I had to drop the manga after around 70 chs and s1 This is a great example of how different storytelling styles will appeal to different people For someone who's really into their romances (gonna guess you're part of that group :3) the lack of romantic developement when the potential is first presented can be frustrating and slow the pace of the series down On the other hand, for someone who's not really into romance, the way SxF handles that aspect by giving some cute moments here and there but taking it's time with it, letting it almost run in the background, can be seen as a positive Personally while i do hope Loid and Yor's relationship does further develope thruout the series, i like that there's more of a focus on their family dynamics and the action/comedy aspects of the show |
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@FiendishChan
" I hate when they don't draw male nipples, its not even lewd just feels weird."
100% agreed.
I don't mind comedic scenes either, just not when it's at the peak of tension.
" I hate when they don't draw male nipples, its not even lewd just feels weird."
100% agreed.
I don't mind comedic scenes either, just not when it's at the peak of tension.
| @nyugvo6 ok fair I can relate to disliking Mako crashing into a life or death battle. But it didnt take long for them to lock in back. Unlike Baccano. The comical relief duo takes one third of the total screentime there for absolutely nothing but stall time. I hate Baccano, all that non-linear storytelling masks how empty the script is |
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@nyugvo6 ok fair I can relate to disliking Mako crashing into a life or death battle. But it didnt take long for them to lock in back. Unlike Baccano. The comical relief duo takes one third of the total screentime there for absolutely nothing but stall time. I hate Baccano, all that non-linear storytelling masks how empty the script is
| @FiendishChan that's completely fine by me, I'm not a huge fan of the duo either. I like nonlinear storytelling in general, but I don't think it's better than the standard. just a stylistic choice. list more anime you hate, I'm interested in different perspectives. |
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@FiendishChan that's completely fine by me, I'm not a huge fan of the duo either. I like nonlinear storytelling in general, but I don't think it's better than the standard. just a stylistic choice.
list more anime you hate, I'm interested in different perspectives.
list more anime you hate, I'm interested in different perspectives.
| @nyugvo6 Non linear storytelling can be interesting but its hard to make it right. Its not an anime but I like Cloud Atlas, I think non-linear storytelling really elevates that movie. Hmm, to be honest its hard to hate anime for me. I hate Baccano because it's claimed as a deep masterpiece by some fans, my hate is not because the anime itself. Awful adaptations like Uzumaki and Promised Neverland season 2 are easy to hate for absolutely butchering their source material. But I feel mostly indifferent towards them and everyone agrees they're bad anyway. I hate stuff that I can objectively prove as bad, yet are loved by many. I do think Naruto, Lazarus etc are weak, but I see their allure so I don't actually hate them. I do hate Anohana tho. People pretend its a tearjerker when in fact its a story about a group of 8 y/os falling in love with the same girl. All boys are sad that their crush is dead, and all the girls are sad because their crush still thinks about the dead girl. None of them other than the fat one are traumatized. And I'd like to remind that children in this love plot are like 12. What I passionately hate is Harry Potter. Not an anime but I couldn't pass without mentioning that twerp. |
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boy, you're in for a treat. I will tell you why I hate every single anime I do.
index s3: they compressed the show so badly it felt like reading a checklist of events instead of watching anime. events were also heavily downplayed.
and let's not forget the impossible fistfight.
one punch man s2: I don't think this needs explanation. from one of the most gorgeous and well animated passion project, to the worst, most hideous slop ever made.
disgusting.
rebuild 3: it was obnoxious, 4th wall breaking, destroyed what the 2nd film built up, it was boring, and they pissed off the audience on purpose according to what the characters say. it made me hate evangelion as a whole.
majo demo steady: this is a bad acid trip. not anime. almost stopped watching anime entirely because it was that bad.
oreimo: worst, ungrateful tsundere bitch ever created and her doormat brother humiliating himself for her every episode. I despise them so much it's unreal.
kill la kill: this show is a mess. they dropped plotlines, it was "safe edgy" mako ruining every moment, the ending was a huge letdown. it was a cartoony cartoon, with cartoony violence, and the animation just got worse and worse.
pupa: it was very poorly made, the art was horrid, the short episodes did an awful job telling the story. they were just glimpses of events, disjointed.
tokyo ghoul: antifun mc had to endure weeks of torture just to be okay with existing. people love to shit on shinji but kaneki is next level pathetic.
little witch academia (tv): after the incredible movie they made, they redid the entire thing but infinitely worse. the mc is now a looney tunes character, butt of every joke, a complete idiot. worst of all she stirs up world ending shit every week and gets away with "oh you", never punished. the animation is also piss poor later on. absolute waste of time, and they ruined the good feelings left by the original.
FLCL Alternative: shit nobody asked for, and the original creator was against. it's awful on top. they clearly didn't understand the original.
Maou-sama, Retry!: lowest effort isekai slop with laughably bad qc issues in general. they didn't even try.
shield hero: nonstop raging naofumi is now nonstop sad naofumi. he's sad even when unlocking the shield of rage. raphtalia is now holier than you, letting her torturer go because "she's not like him", the queen orders the king and bitch to get executed when they wronged naofumi and not her. what the absolute fuck were they thinking?
Violet Evergarden: extremely repetitive, baioretto chan is boring, dumb, insensitive. someone gets mad at her for being autistic then she writes a one word letter and everyone cries their eyes out what a nice girls she is. it's irritating and gets old after two times.
index s3: they compressed the show so badly it felt like reading a checklist of events instead of watching anime. events were also heavily downplayed.
and let's not forget the impossible fistfight.
one punch man s2: I don't think this needs explanation. from one of the most gorgeous and well animated passion project, to the worst, most hideous slop ever made.
disgusting.
rebuild 3: it was obnoxious, 4th wall breaking, destroyed what the 2nd film built up, it was boring, and they pissed off the audience on purpose according to what the characters say. it made me hate evangelion as a whole.
majo demo steady: this is a bad acid trip. not anime. almost stopped watching anime entirely because it was that bad.
oreimo: worst, ungrateful tsundere bitch ever created and her doormat brother humiliating himself for her every episode. I despise them so much it's unreal.
kill la kill: this show is a mess. they dropped plotlines, it was "safe edgy" mako ruining every moment, the ending was a huge letdown. it was a cartoony cartoon, with cartoony violence, and the animation just got worse and worse.
pupa: it was very poorly made, the art was horrid, the short episodes did an awful job telling the story. they were just glimpses of events, disjointed.
tokyo ghoul: antifun mc had to endure weeks of torture just to be okay with existing. people love to shit on shinji but kaneki is next level pathetic.
little witch academia (tv): after the incredible movie they made, they redid the entire thing but infinitely worse. the mc is now a looney tunes character, butt of every joke, a complete idiot. worst of all she stirs up world ending shit every week and gets away with "oh you", never punished. the animation is also piss poor later on. absolute waste of time, and they ruined the good feelings left by the original.
FLCL Alternative: shit nobody asked for, and the original creator was against. it's awful on top. they clearly didn't understand the original.
Maou-sama, Retry!: lowest effort isekai slop with laughably bad qc issues in general. they didn't even try.
shield hero: nonstop raging naofumi is now nonstop sad naofumi. he's sad even when unlocking the shield of rage. raphtalia is now holier than you, letting her torturer go because "she's not like him", the queen orders the king and bitch to get executed when they wronged naofumi and not her. what the absolute fuck were they thinking?
Violet Evergarden: extremely repetitive, baioretto chan is boring, dumb, insensitive. someone gets mad at her for being autistic then she writes a one word letter and everyone cries their eyes out what a nice girls she is. it's irritating and gets old after two times.
nyugvo6 said: index s3: they compressed the show so badly it felt like reading a checklist of events instead of watching anime. events were also heavily downplayed. and let's not forget the impossible fistfight. I felt that way beginning with episode 7 of season 1. nyugvo6 said: rebuild 3: it was obnoxious, 4th wall breaking, destroyed what the 2nd film built up, it was boring, and they pissed off the audience on purpose according to what the characters say. it made me hate evangelion as a whole. I thought it was better than episode 26 and End of Eva, both which also did those things. |
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@nyugvo6 ok fair I can relate to disliking Mako crashing into a life or death battle. But it didnt take long for them to lock in back. Unlike Baccano. The comical relief duo takes one third of the total screentime there for absolutely nothing but stall time. I hate Baccano, all that non-linear storytelling masks how empty the script is
| @FiendishChan I hate both Kill la Kill and Baccano. Nice to see some opinions I can relate to in this thread, though I like both Harry Potter and Little Witch Academia. I think Cloud Atlas has uninteresting stories, by the way, but I can't help but notice it was likely inspired by my favorite manga. https://myanimelist.net/manga/1325/Hi_no_Tori_1967 |
| その目だれの目？ |
| Ratings should not be viewed simply as hating/loving something. Ratings are a measure of quality, a good anime deserves a high score, and a bad anime deserves a low score. Of course, people have different opinions and tastes, so its not like everyone can measure something in the same way. |
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@FiendishChan
I hate both Kill la Kill and Baccano. Nice to see some opinions I can relate to in this thread, though I like both Harry Potter and Little Witch Academia.
I think Cloud Atlas has uninteresting stories, by the way, but I can't help but notice it was likely inspired by my favorite manga.
https://myanimelist.net/manga/1325/Hi_no_Tori_1967
I hate both Kill la Kill and Baccano. Nice to see some opinions I can relate to in this thread, though I like both Harry Potter and Little Witch Academia.
I think Cloud Atlas has uninteresting stories, by the way, but I can't help but notice it was likely inspired by my favorite manga.
https://myanimelist.net/manga/1325/Hi_no_Tori_1967
| @Lucifrost whoah that is interesting. What I liked about Cloud Atlas was how the fates connected with each other, which made good use of nonlinear storytelling. But yeah I agree stories themselves are pretty basic. Harry Potter irritates me on a personal level. An insecure loser who doesn't believe himself saves the school multiple times from threats the grandmasters couldn't handle. Everyone pushes him around and he just takes it, yet somehow earns 50 points for Gryffindor. Also Quidditch is the worst game ever to be imagined because of the golden ball alone. Imagine you're watching an exciting back and forth game of ball and it abruptly ends because Harry Potter caught a rat with bare hands in the parking lot. Only watched first 2 movies and don't care for rest. I like Little Witch Academia too. I cant say the differences between movie and series for LWA, so I can't argue with that. @nyugvo6 But I can argue about Violet Evergarden. Those are crazy claims against Violet, its the point that she is dumb and autistic and all that, the point is that a heartless puppet is learning to feel. But if you find her annoying I can't help you with that. Ep10 still lives rent free in my head on how sad it is. |
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Lucifrost said: I think Cloud Atlas has uninteresting stories, by the way, but I can't help but notice it was likely inspired by my favorite manga. @Lucifrost I honestly believe "Cloud Atlas" was specifically produced as a date film. The kind of film where couples would go to the theater together just to cuddle up and semi-watch some shit together. I say semi-watch specifically because young couples going on a movie date at a theater rarely focus undivided attention completely on just watching the film. lol I honestly find it hard to believe a majority of people would sit through that shit alone in a theater and genuinely enjoy it. It’s the epitome of a polished Hollywood, sentimental, pseudo-deep, long-winded story. The kind of film purposely made so one can take a date to something “meaningful” without necessarily understanding what the hell they are even watching in the 1st place. lol It mixes love stories, reincarnation, and grand “we’re all connected” themes across eras. An experience that gives the perfect excuse to hold hands and whisper in a lover’s ear, “See? It’s about destiny”, while half the audience is completely lost in the plot. lol It totally reminds me of going to see "Interview with the Vampire" back in the 90s with a girl I was in a serious relationship with. It was totally produced as one of those quintessential theater “date films”. Looking back, at least half the theater was filled with lovey-dovey couples, from high-schoolers to middle-aged pairs. Those kinds of screenings make it easy for people to get cozy, cuddling up, and even make out while watching some shit together. I still remember getting up mid-movie to hit the bathroom, glancing up at the rows on my way out, and realizing half the theater was couples tangled up together or full-on sucking face. lol thewiru said: I rarely drop anime, since I usually just start the ones I think I'll like to begin with, but if I do drop it, I don't rate it. I thought that this explained why I rarely had something rated less than 5/10. Seeing some comments online, however, there are some people who seem heavily opinionated about certain seasonals, and that made me think: Perhaps they were correct and I was either being lenient or not good at analysis/criticism? This made me realize that the community seems to rarely explain why they love or hate certain anime unless prompted, things seem to usually work by peer pressure. What's the best way, them, to understand their feelings? Honestly, I think most of the community “understands their feelings” about anime the same way people pretend to understand shit like "Cloud Atlas". By reading other people’s takes and nodding like they got it all along. lol Half of online criticism just seems like peer-pressure philosophy anyway. Maybe the real trick is for people to admit when something just hits or doesn’t, without pretending it needs to be deeper than it actually is. lol |
ColourWheelSep 26, 9:34 AM
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Lucifrost said:
I think Cloud Atlas has uninteresting stories, by the way, but I can't help but notice it was likely inspired by my favorite manga.
I think Cloud Atlas has uninteresting stories, by the way, but I can't help but notice it was likely inspired by my favorite manga.
@Lucifrost
I honestly believe "Cloud Atlas" was specifically produced as a date film. The kind of film where couples would go to the theater together just to cuddle up and semi-watch some shit together. I say semi-watch specifically because young couples going on a movie date at a theater rarely focus undivided attention completely on just watching the film. lol
I honestly find it hard to believe a majority of people would sit through that shit alone in a theater and genuinely enjoy it. It’s the epitome of a polished Hollywood, sentimental, pseudo-deep, long-winded story. The kind of film purposely made so one can take a date to something “meaningful” without necessarily understanding what the hell they are even watching in the 1st place. lol
It mixes love stories, reincarnation, and grand “we’re all connected” themes across eras. An experience that gives the perfect excuse to hold hands and whisper in a lover’s ear, “See? It’s about destiny”, while half the audience is completely lost in the plot. lol
It totally reminds me of going to see "Interview with the Vampire" back in the 90s with a girl I was in a serious relationship with. It was totally produced as one of those quintessential theater “date films”. Looking back, at least half the theater was filled with lovey-dovey couples, from high-schoolers to middle-aged pairs. Those kinds of screenings make it easy for people to get cozy, cuddling up, and even make out while watching some shit together. I still remember getting up mid-movie to hit the bathroom, glancing up at the rows on my way out, and realizing half the theater was couples tangled up together or full-on sucking face. lol
thewiru said:
I rarely drop anime, since I usually just start the ones I think I'll like to begin with, but if I do drop it, I don't rate it. I thought that this explained why I rarely had something rated less than 5/10.
Seeing some comments online, however, there are some people who seem heavily opinionated about certain seasonals, and that made me think: Perhaps they were correct and I was either being lenient or not good at analysis/criticism?
This made me realize that the community seems to rarely explain why they love or hate certain anime unless prompted, things seem to usually work by peer pressure.
What's the best way, them, to understand their feelings?
I rarely drop anime, since I usually just start the ones I think I'll like to begin with, but if I do drop it, I don't rate it. I thought that this explained why I rarely had something rated less than 5/10.
Seeing some comments online, however, there are some people who seem heavily opinionated about certain seasonals, and that made me think: Perhaps they were correct and I was either being lenient or not good at analysis/criticism?
This made me realize that the community seems to rarely explain why they love or hate certain anime unless prompted, things seem to usually work by peer pressure.
What's the best way, them, to understand their feelings?
Honestly, I think most of the community “understands their feelings” about anime the same way people pretend to understand shit like "Cloud Atlas". By reading other people’s takes and nodding like they got it all along. lol
Half of online criticism just seems like peer-pressure philosophy anyway.
Maybe the real trick is for people to admit when something just hits or doesn’t, without pretending it needs to be deeper than it actually is. lol
| @FiendishChan I agree that quidditch is a dumb game. ColourWheel said: I honestly find it hard to believe anyone would sit through that shit alone in a theater and genuinely enjoy it. Cloud Atlas is based on a book. Somebody enjoyed the book, presumably. I dropped it and did not bother to watch the movie. ColourWheel said: It mixes love stories, reincarnation, and grand “we’re all connected” themes across eras. An experience that gives the perfect excuse to hold hands and whisper in a lover’s ear, “See? It’s about destiny”, while half the audience is completely lost in the plot. lol One could describe Phoenix the same way. There is a good chance Mitchell read Phoenix himself, as his wife is Japanese. |
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| You know what you hate within the first 30mins of watching it. |
| The best way to understand them would be to think in their perspective. Why would they express this? Alternatively is to say whatever move on |
| I feel like you either lack any semblance of empathy, or ability to communicate with words effectively, possibly both. |
| I don't rate anime I drop either, I just finish a lot more than I should If you want to understand why people hate certain anime, you should just ask them EDIT: Also, School Days is awesome from start to finish And I liked Cloud Atlas (the movie) |
Supersonic_PainSep 26, 12:01 PM
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| I would say there is a good amount of people that hate on anime either because it's a genre they just don't like, or due to it being very popular. Same thing in the world of video games and other hobbies. |
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Reply to ElderNerd
What are you talkin about man? People are different. They have all kinds of different reasons and ways of thinking for everything. Like someone else said just ask, but I would suggest not starting an argument. Nothing annoys me more when someone asks for my opinion on something and then starts arguing with me about what I just told them.
| @ElderNerd people make such threads because they simply want to talk, I believe. |
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thewiru said: It's this thing called talking to them....I can give you some pretty good reasons why I have rated works below a 5, I don't do it very often. What's the best way, them, to understand their feelings? thewiru said: No...you gave your opinion, they gave theirs....that is it. Why are you trying to ensure your opinions reflect a general view on the work lol? erhaps they were correct and I was either being lenient or not good at analysis/criticism? |
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