Helck Episode 15 Discussion

Oh I'm starting to lose hope for this anime. Not because I don't like it, it might even turn out to be a favourite but at this pace the story will need two seasons with two cours each to get a good conclusion. I don't trust the anime industry giving it that much.

It doesn't help that the last couple episodes is a long agonising road waiting for the inevitable tragedy. I need to know it gets enough episodes to tell the story to stand this!

Guess I'll have to try feeling good for Helck having nice friends for as long as I can...

Nope. Conjecture and hints we've got so far is what I'm basing my views on. Not very solid, granted.

this is a moronic setup that i can't take seriously
lives are on the line, but helck chooses to stay silent, its too contrived

@mechanikilla What's moronic is trying to explain to an angry mob how their mortal enemies are actually misunderstood good-guys, and expect these people to listen and be mindful! What's contrived here exactly? Helck did decide to tell the truth to people he trusts though. People he knows can be reasoned.

@Sigmar-Unberogen
[1.] That's what i'm saying, but its more than just that, speaking to the mob wasn't just a moronic waste of time, it was a moronic waste of life, it even made things worse because now the people think he's just a monster sympathizer.

[2.] Potentially he's just been informed of life changing information, a demon proclaiming that monsters are sourced from the land & are the enemy of both demons and humans.

[3.] Potentially people may have been focusing on the wrong enemy, when monsters actually have some completely other source, and worse yet humans have been killing not only the unrelated innocent.

[4.] Potentially killing the demon lord actually escalated the problem, and the demon lord was protecting humanity from an even greater amount of monsters. Meaning humans have brought even more death upon their kind.

[5.] If demons aren't the enemy, then the nobles who proclaim it so are not worthy of trust, and may even be sinister.

[6.] Lives are on the line, every second counts, not understanding your enemy will lead to greater loss of life. every second he wastes increases both human & demon victims, but also the crimes of humanity. Not just humanity suffering but humanity creating suffering unto itself and others. which in-turn invites retaliation/deserved punishment upon them.

[7.] He arrives to find the nobles have committed human sacrifice, further proving their crimes & inability to protect humanity.

[8.] After all that he's out here wasting time & life, bumbling around, playing with friends, leisurely strolling through town, instead of immediately reporting to the first trustworthy persons.

[9.] Every second he waits puts into doubt the validity of his findings & makes them less convincing, he doesn't even need to say he believes the demon, just say enough to make people want answers to the true nature of events.

[10.] All he needs to do is potentially; put into question humanities actions, to reveal humanities crimes, and correct their mistakes before more have to suffer.

[11.] What's contrived is; all this to pad out time, to allow things to get worse, that Helck is a perpetually blind buffoon, and hasn't learned a single lesson, the lack of any character development, while the plot steamrolls everyone. the absolute deprivation of urgency

& No, in the end Helck didn't tell anyone, maybe he'll get round to it next episode, but its only lives on the line, nothing important.
The last half of the episode was just a void, a forgettable morass of nothingness, this pacing ruins my immersion & puts into doubt the writing quality.

@mechanikilla Glad to know that humanity has such an above everyone else member of the species as you, that know exactly how to react coldly in every situation and can asses the way that everything would work if a machine and not a human would get a task.

Now let's see.
First of all, Helck has always been portrayed as naive, optimistic and a bit of dumb. So him trying to appease to the mob by explaining with his little understanding of what Azudra told him, with, at the same time, being awkward as that shattered his beliefs is pretty in character.

He has been given information that contradicts everything he knows and is trying to find an answer, explanation and who he can trust.
After the mob incident, he started to doubt the info Azudra gave, which is logical when you have grown with a enemy portrayed as twisted and manipulative, why should he believe him instantly?
To make matters worse, the only person in the world that helped him in his moment of more need, that raised him and provided for his brother and him, and thus, someone with the highest degree of trust Helck can place onto someone, just told him to dismiss it as lies and continue with the common narrative.
Why would someone that has always looked after me and helped my family suddenly lie to me in this matter? Not only that, but also one of the highest ranking officials in the kingdom to add value to his word.

There are no lives currently in the line. He is there with his friends because the awakened are out there protecting that lives you say are being wasted, it was already shown but I guess you would have the power to watch the world as an spectator if were to end in Helck's place.
He is a mercenary and has nothing to do, the lands got safer and put them out of work, which relates with the point where he is, pondering who he can trust, what degree of what Azudra said should be believed and to whom should he talk that will listen carefully and provide support instead of blind rage.
At most it has been what, 2-3 days? This things are not lightly to a human being, we are not machines.

He is not, at this point, someone as grandiose. He is a construction worker turned mercenary. To do that you ask from him (revealing crimes, correcting mistakes, etc) he needs his brother (in critical condition) who is the HERO and thus, the one the mob will listen to.

Pacing is not ruined, Helck is learning his lessons, you seem to forget that this is a flashback and this is the point in where he learns this lessons, and since he learns them, is why he is now telling them to Vermillio.


But all of this, of course, might be too plain for a perfectly oiled machine with a 2000IQ, able to understand and solve every issue in matter of seconds, capable of reaching with a perfect presentation and motivational speech to an angry mob about a matter he learned a few hours ago and that knows everything that is happening like he was an spectator from outside the world instead of someone involved in situations that he wasn't prepared to be, oh wait.
Bet you also think basic empathy is a superpower and not a basic human trait.

this is a moronic setup that i can't take seriously
lives are on the line, but helck chooses to stay silent, its too contrived