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Mar 16, 2016 4:28 PM

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Tyrel said:
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from what i've heard i highly suggest everyone who starts this series to watch till the end then save your rating for then (like you should anyway but w.e) i hear it's supposed to get really good and have some sort of plot instead of just the episodic type thing they have going on right now.
Most of the episodes have been filler.


Just watch. Episodes 12 and 13 are going to be masterpieces.
Mar 16, 2016 4:29 PM

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ooo333 said:
Tyrel said:
Most of the episodes have been filler.


Just watch. Episodes 12 and 13 are going to be masterpieces.
After what I've seen from this show, expectations are low.
Mar 16, 2016 4:41 PM

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Tyrel said:
ooo333 said:


Just watch. Episodes 12 and 13 are going to be masterpieces.
After what I've seen from this show, expectations are low.


If it goes anime original then yes, I don't expect it to do anything which has a very high probability since more than half of the contents have been fillers so far. However, if it follows the route of the novel, then expect things to change significantly in the last two episodes. Episode 10 and 11 were actually pretty good episodes. Episode 11 had some foreshadowing that some of the fans could catch. They probably have already set the tone for the last two episodes. Let's wait and see.
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Mar 16, 2016 4:41 PM

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it's better than free and amagi at the very least lol
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Mar 17, 2016 12:27 PM
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No it isn't. This may not be Kyoani's greatest but at least it's still better than Free (both seasons), Haruhi (especially S2), Air, and Kanon.
Mar 27, 2016 4:51 PM

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I think this series is just as bad as Endless Eight and Lucky Star cause I dropped all three.
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Mar 27, 2016 4:59 PM

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Is this show only seen as bad because of the fanservice and lack of overall plot?
Mar 27, 2016 5:13 PM

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AltoRoark99 said:
Is this show only seen as bad because of the fanservice and lack of overall plot?

For me it was because the story and characters were too generic and uninteresting. Regarding the fanservice, I actually think it didn't have enough. If the fanservice had been more explicit and diverse, my boredom could have been curbed a little. This show was overwhelmingly average.
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Mar 27, 2016 5:55 PM

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It is still better than the rest of the trash Winter season.

Mar 27, 2016 7:03 PM

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AltoRoark99 said:
Is this show only seen as bad because of the fanservice and lack of overall plot?
Because it's boring as fuck, cliche, unfunny, and is shoddily written regardless of its episodic nature.
Mar 27, 2016 7:16 PM

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TonyTheme said:
AltoRoark99 said:
Is this show only seen as bad because of the fanservice and lack of overall plot?
Because it's boring as fuck, cliche, unfunny, and is shoddily written regardless of its episodic nature.

I can't say that I agree with you.
Mar 27, 2016 7:20 PM

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I can't say that I agree with you.
Even the in-verse charactars note the trite nature of the scenarios at times.
Mar 27, 2016 8:26 PM

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Yeah don't go by the mean score you see here in MAL. These are the same people that brought Highschool DxD BorN to top 10 2 months before it even aired last year..
Mar 28, 2016 6:05 AM
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Just waiting for that plot twist...
Mar 28, 2016 3:21 PM

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Well I fell asleep twice while watching Air so I think the award goes to that show. This is most definitely not one of the best that they've made, though.
Mar 28, 2016 3:42 PM

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TonyTheme said:
AltoRoark99 said:
I can't say that I agree with you.
Even the in-verse charactars note the trite nature of the scenarios at times.

Scenarios? Its world is bizarre by nature. They aren't talking about the plot at all.
Mar 29, 2016 12:34 AM

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Scenarios? Its world is bizarre by nature. They aren't talking about the plot at all.
Events that happen in the narrative. It's usually tied to lazy meta humor like in episode one when Haruhiko tries to avoid groping Reina, or this in episode 9. To comment on whatever you're talking about, its bizarreness is predictable to the point it's readily familiar and additionally uninteresting.
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Mar 29, 2016 12:16 PM

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It's pretty terrible, but it's at least better than CLANNAD. If any show was a slog, it was that one.
Mar 30, 2016 10:49 AM

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I have a feeling viewers are being turned off by the massive,bouncing *b00bs. I must admit I think it is okay and people are comparing this series to other Koto animation which is not right. Different genre and story line.
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Mar 30, 2016 11:23 AM

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TonyTheme said:
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Scenarios? Its world is bizarre by nature. They aren't talking about the plot at all.
Events that happen in the narrative. It's usually tied to lazy meta humor like in episode one when Haruhiko tries to avoid groping Reina, or this in episode 9. To comment on whatever you're talking about, its bizarreness is predictable to the point it's readily familiar and additionally uninteresting.


It's Usually tied to lazy meta humor?

I don't know about you but this was my first time seeing a guy put so much effort into not grabbing a boob but get a face full of panties. If you can name any other, please let me know. I get what you're saying. Noticing the ecchi happening but letting it happen anyway is about as common as ecchi happening. But so what? Not everything has to be unique. It just has to try and be funny. That scene made me chuckle.

Also dem limbo electrocution scenes were hilarious. They watched a movie where they saw a martial arts due jump into the air and turning into a spinning fireball donut... and then THEY DID THE MOVE IN REAL LIFE XD. Honestly, Phantom World does enough to stand apart from other anime.

Honestly dude, you shouldn't take DIGIBRO's words like their factual. The guy forgot how to have fun when watching shows, and it seems like you did too since you can't enjoy this one at all.
Mar 30, 2016 11:31 AM

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@TitanAnteus Digibro doesn't own the combination of "lazy" and "meta humor" or that opinion, and shows have been doing it (lazily) before Phantom World was a thought. I dislike this show for multiple reasons, so refrain from (politely) dismissing my opinion because you think I'm co-opting someone else's. Fuck off with this "forgot how to have fun watching" shtick because someone doesn't like what you like. A polite ass is still an ass. Your comment has little to do with the preceding conversation, too, since it pertained to a specific comment about characters making observations. The point was (I think) Phantom World isn't funny and is boringly predictable in nearly every way.
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TonyTheme said:
@TitanAnteus Digibro doesn't own the combination of "lazy" and "meta humor" or that opinion, and shows have been doing it (lazily) before Phantom World was a thought. I dislike this show for multiple reasons, so refrain from (politely) dismissing my opinion because you think I'm co-opting someone else's. Fuck off with this "forgot how to have fun watching" shtick because someone doesn't like what you like. A polite ass is still an ass. Your comment has little to do with the preceding conversation, too, since it pertained to a specific comment about characters making observations. The point was (I think) Phantom World isn't funny and is boringly predictable in nearly every way.

Yeah, I made an assumption, especially since I didn't start hearing that opinion until he worded it.

Forgot how to have fun because someone doesn't like what I like? Lol seriously? It has nothing to do with the fact that I like this show, but the fact that you are causing yourself serious discomfort just watching this show. Fun is different to different people, I know, but I felt like you couldn't lay back and relax while watching this show with really left you hanging dry.

Didn't even know there was a preceding conversation before the thing I quoted. Honestly. I don't think Phantom World is predictable. I made an assumption regarding Haruhiko's family situation as far back as episode 2 that no one at the time took seriously, and hey I was right, but that means everyone else took a while to get that plot point.

Also you know what. Predictable isn't bad. Hyouka was pretty predictable. Gurren Lagann was also pretty predictable. Honestly, I don't know what you find funny. That ape episode was hilarious to me. So was the bear land episode. I found lots of tiny bits and pieces in every episode that either made me smile, chuckle or laugh out loud.
Mar 30, 2016 12:11 PM

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To be fair I have not seen all their shows, but yes I think it is the worst :(
Mar 30, 2016 12:26 PM

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Phantom World doesn't cause me actual discomfort from just watching it. This conversation isn't, either, despite your presumptuousness.

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Forgot how to have fun because someone doesn't like what I like? Lol seriously?
No idea what you're even saying here.

How could you "feel" anything based off pretty much nothing, or do you spy on me when I watch an episode of Phantom World? Cut that out. You just contradicted yourself mid-sentence. I remember you saying that about Haruhiko's family situation, something I also clued in on as a possibility. What's your point? Doesn't that even go against your point? Guy likes books A LOT + lives alone = parental issues, much like two other main characters. People missing obvious cues like Haruhiko's gaze towards Koito doesn't mean anything. Predictability is very bad when it has no solid foundation behind it and lacks even a small amount of creativity, which sums up Phantom World well for the most part. It makes the viewing experience boring, which is what happened at times in Hyouka when I was watching it.
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Mar 30, 2016 2:06 PM

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from LN reader point of view probably yes this is the worst.
but to me, nope. it's an enjoyable show with slice of life element in it.
well it's a dissapointing show to LN reader, but i didn't read the LN so this show is enjoyable on the slice of life side.
and that's if we are talking about the anime. but if we are talking about HOW Kyoani hadle this show, yes i agree this is the worst.
Mar 31, 2016 3:09 PM

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Haters gonna hater but I liked it. I dont care about the story and characters as long as it interests me
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Apr 1, 2016 8:11 PM

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So now that this is finished looks like the score has stabilized just above a 7 which means it is the lowest score for a Kyoto Animation studio TV series.

It did improve some in the second half. I found it better than second season of Suzumiya
Apr 1, 2016 9:41 PM

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I don't even know which KyoAni shows I've even seen, but I do know this is the worst anime I watched.
Apr 2, 2016 2:01 AM

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Nope.

it's good for what it tried to be, an episodic show that doesn't take itself seriously. There are some episodes that are unique, and the characters are likeable.

I certainly prefer it over
Free
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Apr 2, 2016 2:16 AM

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LOL I hope most of you guys didn't realize that Phantom world is the worst KyoAni after finishing it, because I realized it since episode 1.

RiP KyoAni, at least you tried.

Now we know that quality is not everything if plot and settings are bad. KonoSuba is exact opposite of this and look at dem sales.
Apr 2, 2016 3:31 AM

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NO it is not and I would say it one of the decent anime DONE by kyoto animation
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Apr 2, 2016 6:24 AM

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Weak-ass "useless" punching bag protagonist, check.
Obnoxious big-boobed chick, check.
Wallflower-ish shy girl, check.
Annoying side character, check.
Aloof ice queen, check.
Mediocre plot that's unnecessarily convoluted and forces kids to take the role of special forces, check.
Protagonist that somehow gets through to any girls problems, check.
Obstructive, time-consuming fan-service, check.


A TALKING BEAR, CHECK

I prefer it to Unlucky Star

That was probably the only anime I couldn't watch past the first few episodes during its time. Man, every site was infected with that shit in some way. I mean it was cute, don't get me wrong, but every fucking where every fucking day.
Apr 13, 2016 6:16 AM
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Given that Kyoukai no Kanata had one of the worst endings in anime history, unless Phantom World somehow manages to repeat that mistake then no
KnK started off interesting and the very least had a good sense of humour, a likeable cast and some genuinely really cool action scenes.

Phantom World has nothing. NOTHING. No cool start, no unique sense of humour, no unique anything. It's just another show that only really exists to sell Blu-rays to lonely male otaku and incite repetitive 'best girl' wars on social networking sites.

Sure, not everything that KyoAni has made in the past has been a masterpiece. But Phantom World's first episode alone disgusted me like nothing else they've ever made. The show is a fucking embarrassment. A complete and utter shame.

It's probably one of the safest and most soulless anime I've ever seen. I don't even want to believe that KyoAni made it. Fortunately, just like every single one of these god damn shows, it'll be forgotten about by next season. And you wouldn't believe how grateful I am about that.


Did you even watch the show throughout? If not, then stop and actually watch it.
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Dropped Kyoukai no Kanata by episode 6, just didn't like the plot.

As a pervert, Phantom World is great, since it distracts the poorly-done anime.

You're a pervert...yet the show has blue balls written all over it. Don't tell me you are THAT perverted
Apr 13, 2016 6:25 AM
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LOL I hope most of you guys didn't realize that Phantom world is the worst KyoAni after finishing it, because I realized it since episode 1.

RiP KyoAni, at least you tried.

Now we know that quality is not everything if plot and settings are bad. KonoSuba is exact opposite of this and look at dem sales.


Because it isn't bad
Apr 14, 2016 6:26 AM

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It's official. Putting aside Munto (Because honestly who gives a shit about Munto) Phantom World has the worst first week sales of any KyoAni series ever!

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-04-12/japan-animation-blu-ray-disc-ranking-april-4-april-10/.100964

I heard a funny story about a Crunchyroll panel at an anime convention where they listed off several shows they were streaming that season and after every title people cheered. They mention Phantom World, complete silence. From all accounts I already knew it was a flop over here in the west. Not just because of stories like that, but more for the fact that the show has pretty much no fanbase.

But I assumed Japan would eat this shit up. Fortunately, they didn't! It's a complete flop in every sense of the word. With sales like this I think it's safe to say KyoAni are never pulling this shit again. No more second seasons, no more 'spiritual successors', no recap movies, nothing.

Now that the show is well on its way to fading into obscurity, let us never speak of it again. Rather, let's look ahead to KyoAni's future. I mean I could do without the Hibike recap movie but Hibike Season 2 and Koe no Katachi are on the way. That's cool.

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Apr 30, 2016 11:47 AM
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I say it's one of their best shows. The lack of an overall plot isn't really a problem., more so since it doesn't pretend to have one. The parody introduction (Pokemon!) should have made people aware that.

While it has many cliches, these don't affect the anime. The usual teenage problems are quite presented well here. I'm shocked that many modern anime fans have forgotten that an anime can have small plots rather than one big plot.

Their worst anime has to be FREE!. Seriously, compare it to Slam Dunk.
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No, this is not the worst. I quite enjoyed it, especially the last two episodes. The worst is Sora wo Miageru Shoujo no Hitomi ni Utsuru Sekai, from what I have seen.
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This is, by my standards, a perfect 6.5/10 shitshow. A vomit fest of bright colors that brings a lot of fun and silliness that I usually dig in. KyoAni is obviously more capable then this but it's also not the worst thing they've made, so far I've enjoyed Free! and Munto and the first season of Tsurune even less.



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it's just rated badly because of the typical Harem-romcom light novel stuff that was peak in the mid 10s before isekai-boom (in anime) that feels differently from other KyoAni Stuff. It's pretty much the only KyoAni Show that feels like that. The Staff at KyoAni don't have the tact for these type of anime and the general otaku stuff and because the KyoAni fags hated it, it didn't the perfect audience.
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