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Dec 5, 2014 8:47 AM
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Pretty intense episode..

With all the background buildup, I'd expect Leon and Herman to take the fight with their quest really soon. Emma also has plans of her own despite working alone. Also found Alfonso's connection with Leon to be interesting to watch this episode. Interesting info about Mendoza this episode as well. I found it a bit disturbing with the way that his generation is passed down.

Shit's about to go down now though as the guys takes the fight deep into enemy territory. I'm really excited for this upcoming fight.
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Dec 5, 2014 10:58 AM
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Lol. that's a fun first half.

So they finally entered the castle, things are getting intense.
Dec 5, 2014 11:13 AM
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Art/Animation: Nothing too spectacular this week but nothing to complain about either.
Sound: I feel like I shouldn't even do sound section anymore when I am just gonna say the same thing every week. It's great!

Story+Characters:
Mostly build up. Though it did flesh out some characters very well.

We got a bit of Mendoza's backstory, why he hates the makai knights so damn much. So he originally was an alchemist who wanted to overthrow the humans but because that goes against their order, they cursed him and any children he has so that he could never be a warlock again. I thought his backstory was actually pretty brutal overall, he killed his wife and son because if he didn't, they would find out that he's technically a warlock and they'd likely have him tortured and killed. Yipes. No wonder he hates the Makai Knights so much, they pretty much forced him to never bare children.

The interactions between the 4 protagonists Leon, Alfonso, Herman and Ema were great. I thought it was an odd contrast with Mendoza's backstory. The back and forth of the tone wasn't too jarring luckily. Regardless, I love how Herman thinks Alfonso is his bastard son and they just let him feel sadness for laughs. Given what a womanizer Herman is, I guess he kinda deserves it. Also, when he was kicked off the edge of the cliff, that was so looney toons.

Storming the castle too, I didn't expect them to jump right to it right away but this pleases me greatly. No more bullshit, just right to the objective. Can't wait for the fight next week.
Dec 5, 2014 11:13 AM
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Loving the buildup to what I hope is an exciting midseason climax
We can't expect Herman, Leon, and Alfonso's assault on the castle to go smoothly after all

It seems the show has found its identity since Herman and Leon have entered the capital/developed Alfonso and has only been getting better since then
Dec 5, 2014 11:22 AM
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Pretty decent episode.
I must say while I think mendoza's methods are a bit extreme but on some level I do agree with him. I believe it was ok for them to curse him but cursing his descendants was taking it a bit too far. Moreover I have always thought why did the captured makai knights and alchemists never fight back. Deliberately hurting people is bad sure but just allowing yourself to be killed like that is stupidity. So in a way i guess mendoza's rage is justified.

As for the black knight I just think he is jealous because herman got anna and so he wants to fight him. Herman was awesome as always he is by far the best character in the series
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Dec 5, 2014 11:45 AM
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So Herman decided to continue to slack off in the village, while he left Leon do some training on his own. He was literally caught butt naked by his nephew, on their first time meeting each other. That moment alone was pure gold, not to mention his steep fall into the river. Looks like he's more willing to push away Leon as a son, more than ever now, with Alfonso in the group. Seriously though, I'm glad we have such a balanced character like Herman, or should I say Roberto instead?

Mendoza's backstory was presented very well. The only thing I could nitpick about it was the length. It was a bit on the short end for my own personal liking. Though I'm looking forward to some more backdrops/glimpses into his past, in future episodes. I wish we could see some mild developement in Mendoza's present character as well, but that seems unlikely so far. Always looking forward to surprises in the future though.

Anyway, three Makai knights versus one in the next episode. Can't say I'm not excited.
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Mendoza's back story, looks like its gonna be Bernardo and Roberto duel on the next ep.
Dec 5, 2014 11:52 AM
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LOL at Herman..........
No wonder Mendoza is so mad.......
Dec 5, 2014 12:07 PM
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Cant wait to see Herman fight his old friend next episode.
Dec 5, 2014 1:28 PM

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Herman's reaction was priceless.
I expect some good action.
Dec 5, 2014 1:30 PM

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That bastard killed his own child, because ... AMBITION. Die a thousand of horrible deaths, Mendoza.

I wonder what Emma is after. I get it that she is not for the raw fight, but she looks like a character, who'd have a great role in the series.

Herman shines as uncle, too ^^
Dec 5, 2014 2:01 PM

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Well Mendoza's story was quite something I guess.

Herman, Ema, Leon and Alfonso are a fun group ^^

Lol'd at Alfonso's reactions to Herman and the way Leon treats him XD
Dec 5, 2014 3:17 PM
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Herman's reactions about assuming that Alfonso is Anna's son was so funny.

Herman asked Alfonso to call him dad was a lol. Lol @ Alfonso's reaction to Herman and how Leon treats him.
Dec 5, 2014 5:16 PM

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That man, who only thinks of his lower half xD Herman proves it again!

The stronger the punishment, the stronger it bites back :/ Mendoza getting banished and getting all his generations cursed! I almost felt he would change a little if his baby was okay though he did make use of his horrors.

Herman thinking Anna betrayed him! I really wonder how Herman was when he was with Anna. Doubt he would open like this which makes it interesting though we did get to see a little before.

Those horrors coming out of their eggs, thought of HxH a little. An interesting fight is coming.
Dec 5, 2014 6:18 PM

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How is Mendoza able to hide the markings on his skin from the curse?

If he could hide them, surely he could have his (now deceased) son's markings hidden as well, and he wouldn't have to kill his son and wife.
I don't consider myself a good judge.

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Dec 5, 2014 11:38 PM

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Oh man shits gonna go down now.

Oh wow that mendoza backstory... He did some fucked up shit... but to curse his children?? Thats harsh...

That was his wife he threw off the cliff too wasn't it....
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Dec 6, 2014 7:38 AM

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What an awesome episode. Leon and Alfonso join together to defeat Mendoza.
Got some ugly marks on Mendoza. Everyone in his bloodline will have it.
They're finally inside the castle and look who they stumble in to. Looks like Herman will be the one fighting the Dark Knight.
Dec 6, 2014 11:21 AM

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Is it me, or does it feel like they're about to end the season?
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Dec 6, 2014 12:58 PM

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finally shits happening. the last few episodes of the season may actually be enjoyable
Dec 6, 2014 3:58 PM

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epic fight next eps. nice.
Dec 6, 2014 6:09 PM

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What a vivid backstory we got from Mendoza..
Dec 6, 2014 9:03 PM

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Good episode, many facts were presented, with a good dose of humor too, finally they broke into the castle, but do not think a triumph will come in this season ..
Dec 7, 2014 9:36 AM

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This episode was much better than the previous ones ^^
Dec 7, 2014 9:49 AM

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Good episode! I can't believe Herman thought Alfonso was a second son of Anna... That part was very funny xD
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Dec 8, 2014 5:49 PM

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So underrated lol
This show deserves more attention
Dec 9, 2014 6:24 PM

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Darstorm-Sandude said:
How is Mendoza able to hide the markings on his skin from the curse?

If he could hide them, surely he could have his (now deceased) son's markings hidden as well, and he wouldn't have to kill his son and wife.

You are right, but maybe Mendoza was just too disappointed & angry to think rationally?
And while we on the markings subject, both Mendoza & Leon has those markings. So maybe, just maybe, Leon is the son of Mendoza.
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Dec 10, 2014 4:29 AM

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Rebelhero said:
Oh man shits gonna go down now.

Oh wow that mendoza backstory... He did some fucked up shit... but to curse his children?? Thats harsh...

That was his wife he threw off the cliff too wasn't it....


Cursing Mendoza's descendents referred only to them not being able to become Makai Alchemists or Knights for eternity. The brand won't affect them if they live as ordinary people.

The curse makes sense, because the Makai apparently are not allowed to punish Mendoza by the laws of humans (which is death), but the old lady cursed him and his kids to live only as humans - the same folk Mendoza dared to use/kill in his experiments but whose lives he should have protected/cherished instead.

I think the brand on the children could be seen only by the Makai or if the Makai are close.
Dec 12, 2014 6:17 AM

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Nice backstory for Mendoza.

Good build up episode, looking forward to seeing Alfonso, Leon and Herman fight together in the next episodes.
Dec 13, 2014 3:06 AM

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Episode alleging that lacked the motivation to balance the situation in the plot, but in hindsight there is something strange, does not add up.
If one remembers the signs that Mendoza has on the course resemble those which Leon.
Then who knows that there is around a child of Mendoza.
The narrative remains good despite having a parenthesis comic in the middle of the story, the same applies to designs and animations.
This time the drawings are even more beautiful, because it made very carefully, perhaps not having much CG to be used have spent the money on them.
This anime is still one of my favorites.
Dec 14, 2014 6:49 AM

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Very good episode. I love Herman is so badass. In this episode, we have the story about roberto, really interesting.
Dec 25, 2014 3:19 AM

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Hmm.. Mendoza's past is revealed and he is vile as fuck throwing his wife and his child after killing them.. Assfuck Mendoza.. Next ep shall be interesting.. Bernardo's wish will be fulfilled.. He will get to fight Herman seriously..
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Crossing swords.
lol at Ema forcing Leon.
No, Alfonso. No matter how far you reach, German will never technically be your Uncle. Anna is your Aunt, and that is all.
LMAO at German running away.
LMFAO at what German said to get the guy to look...and he really looked. I'm screaming.
lol at German misunderstanding.
Dat flashback.
Hold up. The King brought Mendoza a wife? That lucky fuck.
Oh! The baby!
Look at her face. lol
Damn. Hit the rock.
No, German. No matter how far you reach, you are not related to royalty. Leon and Anna are his relatives, and that is all.
LMAO at German saying a real harem.
LMAO at Leon kicking him off the cliff.
Dem feet.
The reunion.
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Dec 31, 2018 6:01 AM

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Very good episode. I'm hyped for next episode.
Jul 10, 2019 1:00 AM

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Whaha German reaction to him being the uncle was priceless

Interesting background story of Mendoza, but it mainly showed how he didn't understood his sin and how he is taking his revenge because he thought it was unfair

Oct 29, 2019 8:51 AM

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Bernardo is back, and finally he faces off with German. This will prove to be interesting on the next episode.

I still wonder if Bernardo is possessed or something, can't wait to hear his thorough backstory.
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Mendoza was given a curse mark? how does he hide it?

Is Leon's marking related?
May 28, 2021 10:29 AM

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HagePotPotato said:
Mendoza was given a curse mark? how does he hide it?

Is Leon's marking related?


Don’t think so. German mentions that it’s something Anna left for Leon while she was dying.

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