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Anime Relations: One Piece

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This is where I'll keep a list of all the userscripts made for this site. You'll need greasemonkey or another alternative to install them.
They'll be separated by where they are used on( forum, anime/manga pages, profiles, etc)

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BBcodes for MAL - A script places a BBcode editor anywhere where you can use it. With all of the possible BBcode functions as buttons. To use you just highlight what you want it to affect and click a button. (Credit: Serhiyko)

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MAL Voice Actor Filter - A script that filters a voice actor's page only showing you the anime that you are watching or have completed. (Credit: Serhiyko)

Anime Relations: Hajime no Ippo

Not completely finished yet. Have all anime tagged with sports in the DB on here but not all games(chess, mahjong, etc). And I still need to use BBcode to spruce it up.

I'll skip second seasons, specials, ovas, etc and just say an anime is a franchise. Just to keep it neat. Though I will include spinoffs or seperate series that are just related through franchise.

Anime Relations: One Piece

Episode guide for specials and movies
Specials = (SP)
OVAs = (OVA)
Movies = (MOV)


I am basing this mostly off characters and this guide to figure where they would most likely lie in the timeline. None of these are essential to the story, they are just for fun. Some of them aired before or after where I place them on the timeline, if you want to watch them when they aired regardless of the timeline then you can use the episode guide link above.
Some specials are paired with a movie even though there's a larger window where they can be in the timeline. I paired them with their respective movie because they were released in the theater with the movie.
Reasoning for why I put the special, movie, etc there is explained in the parenthesis, you have to highlight it to read.

Right after episode 8 is where this fits but as this was made before the series, all of the voices are different. (Nami is in the crew meaning it's after Orange town but Usopp isn't in the crew so it's before Syrup Village.)
One Piece: Taose! Kaizoku Ganzack(MOV)

Right after episode 18 is where it fits.( As Usopp is in the crew but Sanji is not.)
One Piece (2000)(MOV)

Right after episode 53 is where these fit. (As Nami is in the crew but they haven't yet met Vivi.)
One Piece Special: Adventure in the Ocean's Navel(SP)
One Piece: Jango's Dance Carnival(SP)
One Piece Nejimaki Jime no Daiboken(MOV)

Right after 91 is where these fit. As for the movie, (Chopper is in the crew but Vivi and Robin are not. Though in the special before, both Mr. 2 and Vivi are in it but not Robin.)
One Piece: Dream Soccer King(SP)
One Piece Chinjuujima no Chopper Oukoku(MOV)

A remake of the Alabasta arc(92 - 130) made with better art and some scenes cut. There are no extra characters so you can view it anytime after the arc.(It is not suitable to watch instead of it)
One Piece: Episode of Alabaster - Sabaku no Ojou to Kaisoku Tachi(MOV)

Right after episode 138 is where these fit. The two specials could go here or after episode 219.
One Piece: Dead End no Bouken(MOV)
One PIece Special: Open Upon the Great Sea A Father's Huge HUGE Dream(SP)
One Piece Special: Protect The Last Great Performance(SP)

Right after episode 143 is where these fit.
One Piece Take Aim The Pirate Baseball King(SP)
One Piece Norowareta Seiken(MOV)

Right after episode 206 is where this fits.
One Piece: Omatsuri Danshaku to Himitsu no Shima(MOV)

Right after episode 224 is where this fits.
One Piece: Karakurijou no Mecha Kyohei(MOV)

Right after 253, this one is in an alternate reality, so it doesn't fit in the timeline. So I'm going just with the air date.
One Piece Special: The Detective Memoirs of Chief Straw Hat Luffy(SP)

Right after 325 or 336. An alternate reality take on the Drum Island arc(78 - 91) as if the arc took place after( Enies Lobby since it has Robin, Franky, and the Thousand Sunny Go.)
One Piece: Episode of Chopper Plus - Fuyu ni Saku Kiseki no Sakura(MOV)

Right after episode 381 or 384 is where this fits.
One Piece: Romance Dawn Story(OVA)
One Piece 3D: Mugiwara Chase(MOV)

Watch episodes 426 - 29 which are a prequel for the movie.
One Piece: Strong World Episode 0(OVA) (though don't watch the credits as it has spoilers for the movie)
One Piece: Strong World(MOV)

This is a remake of the Arlong arc(31 - 45) made with better art and some scenes cut. There are no extra characters but it is recommended to watch this after episode 522 as this is meant as a refresher for the next arc. At the end is even a couple second scene from episode 522 basically meaning it's a sort of relevant flashback.
One Piece: Episode of Nami Koukaishi no Namida to Nakama no Kizuna(SP)

Watch episodes 575- 78 as they are the prequel for the movie.
One Piece: Episode of Luffy - Hand Island no Bouken(SP)
One Piece: Episode of Merry - Mou Hitori no Nakama no Monogatari(SP)
One Piece Special: Glorious Island(SP)
One Piece Film Z(MOV)

Anime Relations: Gintama

I've been thinking of this for a while but it looks like with the latest Gintama movie coming out and the possible appearance of another season(once the producer's hair grows back) people are noticing that lumping by franchise may help out a bit(at least for the top anime list). Since I've thought of this before I've actually got more thought up than just the franchise lumping in the top anime list. But, I think as doing things to the top anime list would be easier, that should be done first.

The things I've thought of was bunching in the top anime list, then going further to making actual franchise pages(with things to help your watching experience), and then bunching the franchises in the lists(optional of course).


Part I, Top Anime List
For the top anime list I've thought of bunching all franchises(anime with two or more entries connected either as a prequel/sequel, special, ova, spinoff, etc) into one. Now that wouldn't mean that you would rate everything as one, they would still each have their individual pages, it would just mean that they are represented as one on the top anime list.
This would greatly reduce the size of the top anime list. Many anime partly because they are a sequel are rated higher. The people who watched and didn't like the first season are less likely to watch the next, and on and on. Now that's fine and natural but depending on the anime, those seasons, movies, etc can be rated quite highly. It kind of crowds the list and raises people's expectations too high. I've seen many people ask if they can skip seasons and watch the finale of a franchise like Aria because the score is higher. Having them lumped by franchise means you're not seeing a whole bunch of TV series, movies, specials, ovas, etc while browsing the top anime list. I feel that one entry should represent it's franchise. Different timelines and or adaptations will be separated though. That means each of Ghost in the Shell's timelines will be separated along with Fullmetal Alchemist and Fulllmetal Alchemist Brotherhood.


Now the question is what should the score be. Well I thought about that and due to specials, ovas, and movies tending to not be related to the main plot and usually rated lower on average, I think the score should be decided by the main TV series'.

Then there's how to find the score, this is a hard part. As one of the things that affects the rating is if the series is a sequel or not. I believe the score should also be decided by people who've only watched one series of the franchise.

Possible ways to find the score
1. The score by a user is decided by the highest score the user has rated a series in the franchise.

• This has the con of possibly not properly being able to represent what a user thinks of a franchise but has the pro of being easier to implement than 2.

2. The score by a user is decided by the average score of all the series the user has watched in the franchise.

• This has the pro of being closer to what someone would rate a franchise but the con of being harder to implement.

3. The score by a user is decided by a separate franchise score.

• The pro of this is that someone is able to choose exactly which score they think represents their opinion of the franchise without being bound by the scores of the individual series and also sounds easier to implement than either of the first two.

. - One of the problems that comes with using one of these ways to find the score is, it wouldn't be fair for someone who's watched one series out of lets say 3 or 5 to have the same weight as someone who's watched all of them. So the score should be weighted against all the series. So if you've watched 1 out of 4 of the series, your score would only count 1/4 of someone who's watched all of them.

. - Another problem that comes with this is the site's normal rule, where if you haven't watched 1/5 of a series, your score doesn't count. Now should this mean that someone who's watched less than 1/5 of one series shouldn't have a say in the franchise score or should something be done about that?

To me it seems quite obvious that there should be a separate franchise score. I don't see any flaws to it compared to the others.

What it would look like
How an entry normally looks(I'll be using Gintama as it is the main anime that made me think of this).
http://i.imgur.com/dB39Dbp.jpg

And here is the new franchise lumped version. In just the lumped franchise version clicking the Franchise name would link you to the first anime in the continuity of the franchise. So in Gintama's case it would link you to the first Gintama series. Ideally a franchise page would be made and clicking on it would link you there which would have the links to go to one of the individual pages on top of having things to help with your watching experience of the whole franchise.
http://i.imgur.com/hwjYKhQ.gif

From it's closed position, you can see how many TV series, movies, specials, OVAs, music, ONAs, etc an anime has and how many episodes of each from the front. That is useful and is an actual improvement as you can see the whole amount of episodes a franchise has without indvidually going through. Some anime might have multiple series of 13 episodes each, actually making the series 40+ episodes in the long run.

From it's open position, you can then see every entry in the franchise separated by type and showing their individual scores.

Part II, Franchise Page
Like I said earlier, if franchise pages are made, clicking on the name of the franchise on the top anime list would bring you to one of these. The page would look like a normal entry page, just tweaked to fit what a franchise page needs. There would be no recently watched, reviews, and a couple of other things.There would be two main features to this page, the features are:

● A list of all entries in the franchise on one page. Unlike when using the advanced search, you won't see any unrelated entries due to have to search by text(there's always a couple of anime that don't match but are still in there).
...- See every entry on one page, as little icons.
...- See your progress on each one.
...- Many different ways to sort the list, by type, alphabetical, etc.
...- Exclude the ones you've already seen.

● A graphic that shows where each anime fits on the timeline, basically how everything is connected.
...- It would support multiple timelines.
...- Possibly even fan submitted ways of watching.
...ex(Hidamari Sketch, Kara no Kyoukai, Haruhi Suzumiya, etc Chronological guide)

Other features include:

● Changing the info on the sidebar
- So you can see when in the manga an anime started and ended.
- So you can see just how long in years the franchise has been alive.