OneManga To Abandon Illegal Scanlations

http://manga.gamestotal.com
This site is worth about $32,000 atm.
Then look at this shit:
http://manga.gamestotal.com/h_donate.htm
And this is only a tiny little site. I'm telling you. Manga sites are fucking completely impossible to generate money from (unless you pay subscriptions like the faggot Tazmo), so I don't get why dumbasses keep thinking these FREE scanlation manga hosting sites are in it for the money. My God people.

Aug 28, 2010 6:02 PM by neverLamp

Mormegil said:

recalled2life said:
So how is it that OneManga went down and NarutoFan is still up? Amirite? Or did Tazmo get prosecuted after all?

I wish I knew. They need to go after him.

Better him than online manga sites.

Aug 17, 2010 10:14 AM by Drunk_Samurai

recalled2life said:
So how is it that OneManga went down and NarutoFan is still up? Amirite? Or did Tazmo get prosecuted after all?

I wish I knew. They need to go after him.

Aug 16, 2010 7:24 PM by Mormegil

ONE MANGA . U will be missed :(

Aug 15, 2010 5:41 PM by lafuria_sux

So how is it that OneManga went down and NarutoFan is still up? Amirite? Or did Tazmo get prosecuted after all?

Aug 15, 2010 4:49 PM by meticulousJoker

Sabinlerose said:
Of course it costs money to run a site. But if it cost him any money to run, he wouldn't be running the website. So naturally that means the owner is making a profit.

And when he is trying to sell the site for millions of dollars....well. I think that shows just how much money he actually is making.

You're both an idiot, and have a point. Let's address:

OneManga's owner selling it for $$$. Well, that would be making a profit.

Though, I'll admit there's even some problems with that. He/she's not making a profit from manga, but rather a social networking resource. This is even more so the case if the planned sale was not a transfer but actually an acquisition, similar to MAL's relationship to CraveOnline.

To put it another way, you have to look at the flow of money. No one is paying for scanlations in this case. The money comes from ad agencies, and in the case of an acquisition the company buying the site. No illegal activity involved, and only morally wrong by association (which is a rather subjective matter). If the site owner is making money, it's actually from the fact that the site is a hub of internet social activity (well, kinda).

But if you have beef with the site owner making a profit, then you have a valid point.

However,

Sabinlerose said:
Of course it costs money to run a site. But if it cost him any money to run, he wouldn't be running the website. So naturally that means the owner is making a profit.

What the fuck? Please explain this, since your in later posts you seem to know what profit is and what adclick services are.

Aug 3, 2010 9:18 PM by JadeMatrix

DarknessAngel said:
So , considering OM has shut down all manga . Where are we going to read manga online now ?

Mangafox for now. Or Mangahut. You're honestly just better off downloading. I can help you with that if you want.

Aug 2, 2010 2:13 PM by Drunk_Samurai

So , considering OM has shut down all manga . Where are we going to read manga online now ?

Aug 2, 2010 1:27 PM by DarknessAngel

You talk big for someone who doesn't know squat about the real situation.

Can you prove that the "owners**" of OneManga is making money out their website? Any evidence or reference or statistic?

Do you how much brandwidth and money is required to run a image-hosting website and trying to balance that with Ad-revenue only?

I guess no.

Stop talking about things you have NO INKLING about.

They gave a reliable and FREE service for years and if they did make money out of it, they very well deserved it.

Jul 31, 2010 10:35 PM by ddadain

seif said:

Sabinlerose said:
OneManga makes money. That is the reason they are getting strong armed.

Go find a few not for profit manga hosting sites..

You know.. it's like you're saying that manga-reading websites should not be expanding at all. Once they get popular, "hey stop! you're making money. Shut it down now". Be unpopular or die!

These sites (any online reading sites) generally nowadays will either implement ads or donation system -- either way, they generate some money. Your case is done.

It seems most people here don't know what "not for profit" means.

You still make money. Which you use to keep the company, or in this case the website afloat.
Its when you start raking in money that you are no longer Not for Profit.

EDIT:
A non-profit organization is an organization that does not distribute its surplus funds to owners or shareholders, but instead uses them to help pursue its goals.Examples of NPOs include charities (i.e. charitable organizations), trade unions, and public arts organizations

Websites like Bakabt, a website that only takes in donations to keep itself alive then takes down the donation button after they have enough...Thats not for profit.

A website like OneManga where the owner is making money for personal gain. Thats going to get targeted.

Jul 31, 2010 10:18 PM by Sabinlerose

Sabinlerose said:
OneManga makes money. That is the reason they are getting strong armed.

Go find a few not for profit manga hosting sites..

You know.. it's like you're saying that manga-reading websites should not be expanding at all. Once they get popular, "hey stop! you're making money. Shut it down now". Be unpopular or die!

These sites (any online reading sites) generally nowadays will either implement ads or donation system -- either way, they generate some money. Your case is done.

Jul 31, 2010 9:06 PM by seif

d4n13lr0x said:
Sigh, after everything, when all is said and done, bickering gets nothing accomplished except piss fights. Still doesn't change the fact that before long, if the publishers actually win and accomplish their task, every single person who took the publishers' side won't be able to view/download manga online for free. At least that makes me happy in this time of mass C&D. And if Tazmo doesn't lose his site, I'll lose all respect for them.

You are missing the point I was trying to make.

This ISN'T A crusade against online Manga. If it was sites would be dropping like flies. As it is, OneManga isn't dead yet, and Mangafox is still kicking. All the smaller sites and other large sites are running just as well, if not better thanks to the new trafic lost from Onemanga.

Jul 31, 2010 8:57 PM by Sabinlerose

Sigh, after everything, when all is said and done, bickering gets nothing accomplished except piss fights. Still doesn't change the fact that before long, if the publishers actually win and accomplish their task, every single person who took the publishers' side won't be able to view/download manga online for free. At least that makes me happy in this time of mass C&D. And if Tazmo doesn't lose his site, I'll lose all respect for them.

Jul 31, 2010 7:16 PM by neverLamp

Drunk_Samurai said:

Sabinlerose said:

Drunk_Samurai said:

Sabinlerose said:
What the fuck are you guys going off about?
Seriously. What in the seven circles of hell....

I make a comment about how One Manga making large sums of money is one of the reasons it was shut down...and how ad revanue among other things makes the creator of the site a LOT of money....which apparently means im against websites making a profit, or ads or any sites giving them....How the hell...what is this...I dont't even.......the cake it...is a lie.....?

Next time can you please read what I WRITE not to be confused with what YOU THINK I'm saying with.

EDIT for the record: I don't oppose adcents. Like you seem to think I do.
I just don't support using the profits for your own personal gain.
Bet you didn't know the owner of Onemanga tried to sell his site for a few million dollars awhile back. In it for the profits....speaks for itself.

Learn to read. We said that he didn't make any money because all money generated from ads went back into the site. You honestly don't know what you are talking about. Billion of viewers = shitloads of bandwith cost.

I read what you said.
You simply don't know what the hell you are talking about.

Of course it costs money to run a site. But if it cost him any money to run, he wouldn't be running the website. So naturally that means the owner is making a profit.

And when he is trying to sell the site for millions of dollars....well. I think that shows just how much money he actually is making.

Go take a few business courses, or learn about how the internet works before you open your trap again, kay?
Fucking children...

You're the one who is the idiot here. If somebody has so many viewers then they do not make profit. They in fact could even lose money if people have adblock or some such plugin. There's a reason why Lurk's servers are down. They were late on a payment because donations were not enough to keep it running. Every single coin they get goes into the servers. If something evens out then there is no need to close down a website.

Stop it.
Please go do a few Google searches so you can at least grasp simple concepts!

Your highly overestimating the bandwidth cost, and highly UNDERMINING the revenue from the ads.

Jul 31, 2010 6:34 PM by Sabinlerose

Drunk_Samurai said:
Learn to read. We said that he didn't make any money because all money generated from ads went back into the site. You honestly don't know what you are talking about. Billion of viewers = shitloads of bandwith cost.

You mean millions, right? Millions of daily browsers means potentially tens of thousands of hits (that's ad hits, not site hits), which equates to a lot of ad revenue.

However, none of us know what OneManga's bandwidth situation was. For all we know the site owner was a cheap skate that didn't care for the transfer rates to his web servers, opting to spend as little money as he could. It takes a lot of simultaneous images to equate to 1GB of data, specially if they're low quality JPG images.

Jul 31, 2010 6:27 PM by no-thanks

Sabinlerose said:

Drunk_Samurai said:

Sabinlerose said:
What the fuck are you guys going off about?
Seriously. What in the seven circles of hell....

I make a comment about how One Manga making large sums of money is one of the reasons it was shut down...and how ad revanue among other things makes the creator of the site a LOT of money....which apparently means im against websites making a profit, or ads or any sites giving them....How the hell...what is this...I dont't even.......the cake it...is a lie.....?

Next time can you please read what I WRITE not to be confused with what YOU THINK I'm saying with.

EDIT for the record: I don't oppose adcents. Like you seem to think I do.
I just don't support using the profits for your own personal gain.
Bet you didn't know the owner of Onemanga tried to sell his site for a few million dollars awhile back. In it for the profits....speaks for itself.

Learn to read. We said that he didn't make any money because all money generated from ads went back into the site. You honestly don't know what you are talking about. Billion of viewers = shitloads of bandwith cost.

I read what you said.
You simply don't know what the hell you are talking about.

Of course it costs money to run a site. But if it cost him any money to run, he wouldn't be running the website. So naturally that means the owner is making a profit.

And when he is trying to sell the site for millions of dollars....well. I think that shows just how much money he actually is making.

Go take a few business courses, or learn about how the internet works before you open your trap again, kay?
Fucking children...

You're the one who is the idiot here. If somebody has so many viewers then they do not make profit. They in fact could even lose money if people have adblock or some such plugin. There's a reason why Lurk's servers are down. They were late on a payment because donations were not enough to keep it running. Every single coin they get goes into the servers. If something evens out then there is no need to close down a website.

Jul 31, 2010 6:26 PM by Drunk_Samurai

Drunk_Samurai said:

Sabinlerose said:
What the fuck are you guys going off about?
Seriously. What in the seven circles of hell....

I make a comment about how One Manga making large sums of money is one of the reasons it was shut down...and how ad revanue among other things makes the creator of the site a LOT of money....which apparently means im against websites making a profit, or ads or any sites giving them....How the hell...what is this...I dont't even.......the cake it...is a lie.....?

Next time can you please read what I WRITE not to be confused with what YOU THINK I'm saying with.

EDIT for the record: I don't oppose adcents. Like you seem to think I do.
I just don't support using the profits for your own personal gain.
Bet you didn't know the owner of Onemanga tried to sell his site for a few million dollars awhile back. In it for the profits....speaks for itself.

Learn to read. We said that he didn't make any money because all money generated from ads went back into the site. You honestly don't know what you are talking about. Billion of viewers = shitloads of bandwith cost.

I read what you said.
You simply don't know what the hell you are talking about.

Of course it costs money to run a site. But if it cost him any money to run, he wouldn't be running the website. So naturally that means the owner is making a profit.

And when he is trying to sell the site for millions of dollars....well. I think that shows just how much money he actually is making.

Go take a few business courses, or learn about how the internet works before you open your trap again, kay?
Fucking children...

Jul 31, 2010 6:08 PM by Sabinlerose

Sabinlerose said:
What the fuck are you guys going off about?
Seriously. What in the seven circles of hell....

I make a comment about how One Manga making large sums of money is one of the reasons it was shut down...and how ad revanue among other things makes the creator of the site a LOT of money....which apparently means im against websites making a profit, or ads or any sites giving them....How the hell...what is this...I dont't even.......the cake it...is a lie.....?

Next time can you please read what I WRITE not to be confused with what YOU THINK I'm saying with.

EDIT for the record: I don't oppose adcents. Like you seem to think I do.
I just don't support using the profits for your own personal gain.
Bet you didn't know the owner of Onemanga tried to sell his site for a few million dollars awhile back. In it for the profits....speaks for itself.

Learn to read. We said that he didn't make any money because all money generated from ads went back into the site. You honestly don't know what you are talking about. Billion of viewers = shitloads of bandwith cost.

Jul 31, 2010 12:58 PM by Drunk_Samurai

d4n13lr0x said:

1) The thing is, the site doesn't even generate money from manga. It generates money from the adsense profits it gets that aren't even obtrusive when viewing manga.

2) Publishers shut down OM because they were generating money, not from something like manga, but from Adsense, an independent source of profit that's from website traffic?

3) That means it's not because it hosts manga, but because it makes money off the ads of the site.

4) It seems like they're using the fact that it has manga to say C&D because they're making a little money off the side.

I don't know HOW I missed this part...but um. Wow.
I just....have no idea how to express my disbelief at how much of a fantasy world you are living in.

1) It's the same thing. I don't know how you can possibly think they aren't. Adcents is effective because of the content. Whatever the content is. It makes you money, because people view said content.

2) I...I...I....WHAT!? THE TRAFIC COMES FROM THE MANGA. HOLY HELL.

3) ...If it didn't host manga...it wouldn't get millions of hits....so...um.....yaaaaaaaa

4) Money off content that doesn't belong to them.....ya. Thats illegal.

Jul 30, 2010 11:57 PM by Sabinlerose

kindergraph said:

Sabinlerose said:
Sure scanilation groups helped.
But the companies who marketed the manga, and the anime are the ones who made manga popular.

maybe so, but i think the western anime/manga industry is ready to die.

if funimation and every other anime/manga import company tanked today, what difference would it make? no more dubbed anime on tv? we're not in the 90s any more. almost all anime fans watch/read fan translations now anyway. hell, say what you will about overdone karaoke effects, but most fansubs i've seen have more effort put into the translation than professional dvd releases (not that this is true for all of them, but most of nozomi's dvds read like they were translated by babelfish).

the western anime industry helped popularise anime, i guess, but we really don't need help doing that any more. the internet exists, you guys. all funimation and companies like them are doing now are creating pseudo-celebrities (e.g. vic mignogna) and preying on download sites.

anime/manga licensers are suffering from the same disease as the riaa/mpaa. they're dinosaurs. we don't need them any more.

e: can't believe i forgot to add this, so i don't seem like some kind of "piracy is hardcore, screw the man!" douchebag. if you want to support a series, buy merchandise. import toys and keychains; hell, buy one of those creepy figurines. yeah, it's expensive. that's what having a hobby is about. (besides, how many series are actually worth paying for anyway? i want my money back for tayutama -kiss on my deity- and i didn't even pay for it.)

It would be the complete and utter crash of Western Anime culture as we know it.
Aka, otakus, subophiles, and a small portion of others would be all that remains.

New blood wouldn't be introduced. Thus slowly making scanilation groups less and less prominent.

Sure it wouldn't die. But it would sure as hell never be the same again.

Jul 30, 2010 11:47 PM by Sabinlerose

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