Joint Oneshot manga by Hiroyuki Takei and Stan Lee
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So he just filled in the speech balloons? Hahaha. Oh man, of course Ditko was just as involved but had less fame. But how does Ditko doing a stand up job undermine Stan Lee's work. You are just another Stan Lee hater. You are also placing precedence over certain aspects of the productions over others.
It bothers me when people rag on Stan just because they think Ditko should have had more fame. While Ditko did more work, he was of course forced to, since he was under Stan Lee's direction. Stan Lee was in complete control over the creation and production of the Amazing Spiderman, he was writer and editor (just a little bit more work that filling in speech ballons as you say), and he was actually also in charge of the final drafting of the artwork as well. Stan was the one who choose Ditko to do the artwork for HIS story. It could just as easily have been Kirby rather than Ditko. Before you make a comment, you should do a bit of research to make sure your comment is not ungrounded.
I'm sure you may know a lot about a lot of different comics, but I personally am selectively a huge spiderman fan.
Its not that I'm a "Stan Lee hater" its that you're a huge Stan Lee fan. I'm not the one twisting facts or whatever. I'm merely recalling what Lee himself has already stated. I'm actually ambivalent to the fellow. He gets more attention than he should. That's fine. I hope he enjoys it, actually.
You say he was an editor...but what that breaks down to is him saying what he likes or does not like, not that he actually did anything. I do indeed know my history, son. He had Kirby (another person who's exponentially more important than Stan) draw up a design for Spidey, and he didn't like it, so he went to Ditko. That's really just luck, more than anything else. And Stan was always very lucky.
This breaks down to a matter of opinion. You seem to think that all jobs in the industry are equally important. I say that some are (obviously) more important than others.
But yeah, this is way off-topic. I threw in my two cents in my last post on how I hope this turns out, and now I move on.
Mar 11, 2008 9:56 PM by SageShinigami
It bothers me when people rag on Stan just because they think Ditko should have had more fame. While Ditko did more work, he was of course forced to, since he was under Stan Lee's direction. Stan Lee was in complete control over the creation and production of the Amazing Spiderman, he was writer and editor (just a little bit more work that filling in speech ballons as you say), and he was actually also in charge of the final drafting of the artwork as well. Stan was the one who choose Ditko to do the artwork for HIS story. It could just as easily have been Kirby rather than Ditko. Before you make a comment, you should do a bit of research to make sure your comment is not ungrounded.
I'm sure you may know a lot about a lot of different comics, but I personally am selectively a huge spiderman fan.
Also there are lots of people in the north american comic industry who would be better than Stan Lee at this point in his career to try an attempt at a fusion between comic and anime. But at least Stan is the type of person who gets stuff done, and while its only a standalone manga, at least it is a step in the right direction, and opens doors for more possibilities. We can be assured that this project will not fall apart since Stan has his grubby hands into it. Whether or not it actually turns into anything special or just another spiderflop seems to be rather irrelevant to where we have taken this discussion.
Mar 8, 2008 3:31 PM by renegade
To all those critics of Stan Lee, have you even read the first generation of the Amazing Spiderman? I really really doubt you have, otherwise, you would not be ignorant to the talent of Stan Lee. His story of Peter Parker is beyond all others in North American comics. The adaptations are not nearly as good, but the original story is legendary.
You should be careful who you ask what. You might come across an uber-comics nerd. ;)
That said, you should know the "first generation" of Amazing Spider-Man was drawn by the equally amazing Steve Ditko, who actually did everything except the speech bubbles, which "The Man" filled in. And if there's one thing Stan has NEVER been all that good at: it was dialogue.
Most of the people hyped about this are...well, I'll skip the pretentious, condescending comments and just pray none of you are disappointed. ^_^
Mar 7, 2008 12:10 PM by SageShinigami
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Mar 5, 2008 6:31 PM by i_died_the_end
I can't say much for Shaman King, as I have never gotten into the show, but there are few writers in Japan who do not know how to tell a good story. I think their collaboration should turn out something very interesting.
Mar 5, 2008 2:10 PM by renegade
Mar 5, 2008 5:19 AM by neverest
Mar 4, 2008 8:52 PM by katsup
So no info on the plot yet?
Mar 4, 2008 8:03 PM by magentaanbu
Mar 4, 2008 6:47 PM by y0l3itches
SPIDER-MAN...GA! The manga that was bitten by a radioactive spider!
Mar 4, 2008 3:29 PM by Juliab
Mar 4, 2008 11:23 AM by the_seventh_l
Excelsior!
Mar 4, 2008 12:19 AM by Kurisu86
Mar 3, 2008 6:15 PM by Kemious
Mar 2, 2008 7:55 PM by Pyrefly
*Goes all fangirl*
Hehehe I can't wait to see it~!! ^________^
Mar 2, 2008 4:08 PM by Mana___
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This breaks down to a matter of opinion. You seem to think that all jobs in the industry are equally important. I say that some are (obviously) more important than others.
Hey Sage,
Its pretty clear you have not worked in any industry yet for you to make those comments. Of course some positions are more important than others, but once you get into an industry you will see the hell that it is, and how utterly important some roles are in productions. How small even the greatest talent can seem in the world, which can go untaped if it were not for very important people in the fields.
I am not a huge Stan Lee fan. Not in the slightest my boy. I am a HUGE Spiderman fan. Stan Lee is a sellout, or either the people who now represent him are sellouts.
Thank you for skipping your condescending remarks once again. It is clear you are a huge comic book fan. I respect your interests. But if you just intend to get the last word, and then fade away into the sunset, than this is the same as any other thread that ends without any decent content within it.
Mar 14, 2008 9:13 PM by renegade