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Japan's Weekly CD Rankings for May 29 - Jun 4

by tsubasalover
Jun 6, 2017 2:21 AM | 20 Comments
Here are the weekly CD rankings for May 29 - June 4

Rank / This week's sales by copies / Cumulative sales / Titles

CD Single
*1. 1,305,747 1,305,747 AKB48 "Negaigoto no Mochigusare"
*2. *,*48,964 *,*48,964 THE IDOLM@STER CINDERELLA GIRLS STARLIGHT MASTER 11 AnKira!? Kyousoukyoku by Anzu Futaba (CV: Hiromi Igarashi), Kirari Moroboshi (CV: Rei Matsuzaki)
*3. *,*28,316 *,*28,316 Boku no Hero Academia 2nd Season ED "Dakara, Hitori ja Nai" by Little Glee Monster
*4. *,*27,024 *,*27,024 GALAXY HidE and SeeK by AZALEA
*5. *,*25,297 *,*62,734 The iDOLM@STER: Cinderella Girls Gekijou ED "Etude wa Ikkyoku dake" by THE IDOLM@STER CINDERELLA GIRLS LITTLE STARS! [Rin Shibuya (CV: Ayaka Fukuhara), Haruna Kamijou (CV: Kana Nakashima), Nao Kamiya (CV: Eriko Matsui), Ranko Kanzaki (CV: Maaya Uchida), Miyu Mifuna (CV: Sayaka Harada)]
*6. *,*23,103 *,*23,103 Namie Amuro "Just You and I"
*9. *,*10,661 *,*10,661 SKY-HI (Mitsuhiro Hidaka from AAA) "Silly Game"
11. *,**7,898 *,200,775 Kame to YamaP "Senakagoshi no Chance"
12. *,**7,507 *,*84,383 Cinderella Girls Gekijou ED "Kira! Mankai Smile" by THE IDOLM@STER CINDERELLA GIRLS LITTLE STARS! [Uzuki Shimamura (CV: Ayaka Ohashi), Miho Kohinata (CV: Minami Tsuda), Mayu Sakuma (CV: Yui Makino), Momoka Sakurai (CV: Haruka Terui), Anzu Futaba (CV: Hiromi Igarashi)]
14. *,**4,514 *,**4,514 Puripuri Chii-chan!! ED "Honey and Loops" by Aki Toyosaki

15. *,**4,090 *,*64,362 THE IDOLM@STER CINDERELLA GIRLS STARLIGHT MASTER 10 "Jet to the Future" by Riina Tada (CV: Rurjiko Aoki), Natsuki Kimura (CV: Kiyono Yasuno)
19. *,**3,199 *,*30,645 Uta no ☆Prince-sama♪ Idol Song Ranmaru & Ai "Haruhana" by Ranmaru Kurozaki (CV: Tatsuhisa Suzuki) & Ai Mikaze (CV: Shouta Aoi)
22. *,**2,807 *,*39,711 Kobukuro "Kokoro"
24. *,**2,739 *,*20,912 Eromanga-sensei ED "adrenaline!!!" by TrySail
25. *,**2,728 *,**2,728 Kenka Banchou Otome: Girl Beats Boys OP "Love Sniper" by Love Desire
26. *,**2,467 *,*32,442 Kinmirai Happy End by CYaRon!
28. *,**2,074 *,*26,093 THE ALFEE meets The KanLeKeeZ "Anata ni Okuru Ai no Uta"
30. *,**1,857 *,995,289 Nogizaka46 "Influencer"
31. *,**1,836 *,**1,836 Oushitsu Kyoushi Haine OP "Shoppai Namida" by Shougo Sakamoto (incl. in "Hanagoe / Shoppai Namida")
32. *,**1,814 *,*58,558 Detective Conan Movie 21: The Crimson Love Letter ED "Togetsugyou ~Kimi Omou~" by Mai Kuraki

33. *,**1,786 *,433,144 Arashi "I'll be there" (Live-Action TV Drama Kizoku Tantei Theme Song)
34. *,**1,669 *,*10,694 Tsuki ga Kirei OP/ED "Imakoko / Tsuki ga Kirei" by Nao Touyama (incl. IN "Hatsukoi" in Anime Edition)
35. *,**1,652 *,**9,900 miwa "Shiny"
36. *,**1,561 *,**1,561 Starmyu 2nd Season ☆2nd SHOW TIME 9☆ Nayuki x Ugawa & Hoshitani x Nayuki (Yume Tsubomi / Staccato March) by Tooru Nayuki (CV: Kensho Ono) x Akira Ugawa (CV: Yoshitsugu Matsuoka) / Yuuta Hoshitani (CV: Natsuki Hanae) x Tooru Nayuki (CV: Kensho Ono)
37. *,**1,394 *,**6,876 Cafe de Personality Daicho no Onayami Orera ga Marutto Byou de Kaiketsu-hen SP ~GRANBLUE FANTASY~ by Loain (CV: Minoru Shiraishi), Elsem (CV: Mark Ishii), Tomoi (CV: Junya Enoki)
40. *,**1,271 *,*27,629 Uta no ☆ Prince-sama♪ Idol Songs Reiji & Camus "KILLER KISS" by Reiji Kotobuki (CV: Shoutaro Morikubo) & Camus (CV: Tomoaki Maeno)
42. *,**1,203 *,*24,665 Golden Bomber "#CD ga Urenai Kono Yo no Naka Ja"
44. *,**1,112 *,**1,112 Yousei Teikoku "flamma idola"
46. *,**1,059 *,*20,172 Eromanga-sensei OP "Hitorigoto" by ClariS
48. *,***,934 *,*41,984 RADWIMPS "Saihate Ai ni / Sennou"

51. *,***,873 *,**3,982 Rokudenashi Majutsu Koushi to Akashic Records OP "Blow out" by Konomi Suzuki
55. *,***,745 *,*22,885 Kana Nishino "Pa"
56. *,***,737 *,299,441 Gen Hoshino "Koi" (Live-Action TV Drama Nigeru wa Haji da ga Yaku ni Tatsu Theme Song)
58. *,***,731 *,*98,109 V6 "COLORS / Taiyou to Tsuki no Kodomotachi"
61. *,***,697 *,***,697 5Night Circus by Frep
63. *,***,673 *,**5,210 Dungeon ni Deai wo Motomeru no wa Machigatteiru Darou ka Gaiden: Sword Oratoria OP "RE-ILLUSION" by Yuka Iguchi
64. *,***,670 *,**2,377 Frame Arms Girl ED by "FULLSCRATCH LOVE" by FA Girls [Gourai (CV: Narumi Kaho), Stylet (CV: Yuu Ayase), Baselard (CV: Rika Nagae)]
68. *,***,640 *,*31,458 Kemono Friends OP "Youkoso Japari Park e" by Doubutsu Biscuits [Common Raccoon (CV: Saki Ono), Serval (CV: Yuka Ozaki), Fennec (CV: Kana Monomiya)] x PPP [Rockhopper Penguin (CV: Aina Aiba), Humboldt Penguin (CV: Ikuko Chikuta), Royal Penguin (CV: Mikoi Sasaki), Emperor Penguin (CV: Ruka Nemoto), Gentoo Penguin (CV: Kyouka Tamura)]
69. *,***,624 *,**3,894 Renai Boukun OP "Koi? de Ai? de Boukun desu!" by Wake Up, Girls!
70. *,***,620 1,079,710 AKB48 "Shoot Sign"

71. *,***,588 *,**2,372 SQ "X Lied" Vol.2 Tsubasa & Ichiru "Shout It Out / Akaku Somaru Sora" by Tsubasa Okui (CV: Souma Saito) / Ichiru Kuga (CV: Shou Nogami)
73. *,***,579 *,**2,433 Rokudenashi Majutsu Koushi to Akashic Records ED "Precious You☆" by Sistine Fibel (CV: Akane Fujita), Rumia Tingel (CV: Yume Miyamoto), Re=L Rayford (CV: Ari Ozawa)
76. *,***,556 *,**6,326 Hinako Note OP "A E I U E O Ao!" by Gekidan Hitotose [Hinako Sakuragi (CV: Mao Ichimichi), Kuina Natsukawa (CV: Miyu Tomita), Mayuki Hiiragi (CV: Yui Ogura), Chiaki Ogino (CV: Hisako Tojo), Yua Nakajima (CV: Marika Kouno)]
79. *,***,532 *,**6,859 Frame Arms Girl OP "Tiny Tiny" by Rie Murakawa (incl. in "Tiny Tiny / Mizuiro no Fantasy")
80. *,***,526 *,*24,062 BLACK SHOUT by Roselia
93. *,***,409 *,**4,200 DEEN "Kimi e no Parade♪"
96. *,***,400 *,**5,150 Hinako Note ED "Curtain Call!!!!!" by Gekidan Hitotose [Hinako Sakuragi (CV: Mao Ichimichi), Kuina Natsukawa (CV: Miyu Tomita), Mayuki Hiiragi (CV: Yui Ogura), Chiaki Ogino (CV: Hisako Tojo), Yua Nakajima (CV: Marika Kouno)]
99. *,***,381 *,**2,524 Shingeki no Kyojin Season 2 ED "Yuugure no Tori" by Shinsei Kamattechan (incl. in "Yuugure no Tori / Hikari no Kotoba")
100. ,***,378 *,**1,548 Alice to Zouroku OP "Wonder Drive" by ORESAMA
(cut-off 378)

CD Album
*1. *,*47,597 *,*47,597 Shiritsu Ebisu Chuugaku "Ebi-cracy"
*2. *,*23,082 *,365,569 Nogizaka46 "Umarete kara Hajimete Mita Yume"
10. *,**8,499 *,285,058 Yuzu "Yuzu Iroha 1997-2017"
11. *,**8,036 *,**8,036 Kouji Tamaki "ALL TIME BEST"
13. *,**5,613 *,*34,414 LiSA "LiTTLE DEViL PARADE"
15. *,**4,864 *,*35,763 A3! First SUMMER EP by Summer Troupe [Tenma Sumeragi (CV: Takuya Eguchi), Yuki Rurikawa (CV: Shunichi Toki), Muku Sakisaka (CV: Yoshitaka Yamaya), Misumi Ikaruga (CV: Daisuke Hirose), Kazunari Miyoshi (CV: Ren Ozawa)]
18. *,**4,234 *,*32,836 A3! First SPRING EP by Spring Troupe [Sakuya Sakuma (CV: Hirota Sakurai), Masumi Usui (CV: Yuusuke Shirai), Tsuzuru Minagi (CV: Koutarou Nishiyama), Itaru Chigasaki (CV: Shintarou Asanuma), Citron (CV: Masashi Igarashi)]
20. *,**3,953 *,**3,953 nano "The Crossing"
22. *,**3,645 *,**3,645 Mariko Takahashi "Dramatic Best"
23. *,**3,502 *,*31,962 Sayuri "Mikazuki no Koukai"

25. *,**2,894 *,*33,215 Linked Horizon "Shingeki no Kiseki" (incl. Shingeki no Kyojin Season 1 OPs "Guren no Yumiya" [Shingekisai ver. with Armin Narration], "Jiyuu no Tsubasa", Shingeki no Kyojin Movie 1: Guren no Yumiya ED "Guren no Zahyou", Shingeki no Kyojin Movie 2: Jiyuu no Tsubasa OP "Jiyuu no Daishou", Shingeki no Kyojin Season 2 OP "Shinzou wo Sasageyo!", and Shingeki! Kyojin Chuugakkou OP "Seishun wa Hanabi no You ni" [as bonus track of limited edition])
26. *,**2,544 *,*55,034 Aimer BEST SELECTION "blanc"
28. *,**2,365 *,*54,093 Aimer BEST SELECTION "noir"
30. *,**1,976 *,*16,050 Shou Kiryuuin (Golden Bomber) "Oni Cover 90's"
35. *,**1,823 *,**1,823 M.O.E (Wataru Hatano, Takuma Terashima) "Kimi to Issho nara Melody mo Yuuki ni naru CD"
36. *,**1,784 *,*18,755 Kidou Senshi Gundam: Tekketsu no Orphans COMPLETE BEST by Various Artists
46. *,**1,419 *,**1,419 OKAMOTO'S "LIVE"
48. *,**1,361 *,*40,138 Detective Conan Movie Theme Song Album "20" All Songs~ by Various Artists
53. *,**1,144 *,*73,467 MANKAI☆Kaika Sengen by A3ders! [Sakuya Sakuma (CV: Koudai Sakai), Tenma Sumeragi (CV: Takuya Eguchi), Banri Settsu (CV: Chihiro Sawashiro), Tsumugi Tsukioka (CV: Atsushi Tamaru)]
69. *,***,934 *,***,934 Rouge et Noir Double Down: Pitbos Arlein Claive by Noboru Tetrapot (Makoto Furukawa) (Drama CD)

82. *,***,723 1,159,561 SMAP "25 YEARS"
84. *,***,694 *,*19,382 °C-ute "°COMPLETE SINGLE COLLECTION"
85. *,***,692 *,331,506 ONE OK ROCK "Ambitions"
88. *,***,668 *,*65,130 Wagakki Band "Shikisai" (incl. Sousei no Onmyouji ED "Hotarubi")
93. *,***,651 *,**1,536 "CRISIS Kouan Kidou Chousa-tai Tokusou-han" OST by Hiroyuki Sawano, Kota Yamamoto
95. *,***,638 *,673,709 Hikaru Utada "Fantome"
99. *,***,610 *,***,610 "Inmitsu Dasshutsu Game" Vol.2 Hajimete Kareshi-hen by Noboru Tetrapot (Makoto Furukawa) (Drama CD)
100. ,***,607 *,317,990 RADWIMPS "Ningen Kaika" (incl. Original ver. of Kimi no Na wa. "Zen Zen Zense" and "Sparkle")
(cut-off 607)

Source: Oricon Youtaiju

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jayvee2016 said:
Ejc said:


I agree with this. The impressive thing with μ's, is that their CDs have had very long sales tails (μ's Best Album Best Live! collection charted for 145 consecutive weeks). Even if nothing new has happened in the franchise, they rarely had any week where one of their CDs did not make the Top 200 Singles/Top 300 Albums cut-off. This is quite different to Aqours... but maybe it's still too early to be too hard on them.

Who knows, maybe Aqours will have a huge momentum boost when the 2nd Season Anime airs like with μ's, but we have to think of things realistically. Aqours has a lot of ground to make up to even reach μ's level of success. I wish them the best of luck, but getting their first gold disc certification without live concert event ticket sales doping (as in not a mini live event ticket) should be a nice start for them:
http://www.riaj.or.jp/f/data/cert/gd.html

Gold disc certifications from the RIAJ (100,000 shipped copies <= x shipped copies < 250,000 shipped copies)
Love Live! Sunshine!!
● 君のこころは輝いてるかい? by Aqours → 認定年月:2017年5月
Love Live!
● HEART to HEART! by μ's → 認定年月:2016年7月
● 錯覚CROSSROADS by BiBi → 認定年月:2016年4月
● MOMENT RING by μ's → 認定年月:2016年3月
● 僕たちはひとつの光/Future style by μ's/1年生 → 認定年月:2015年7月
● SUNNY DAY SONG/?←HEARTBEAT by μ's/3年生 → 認定年月:2015年7月
● Angelic Angel/Hello,星を数えて by μ's/2年生 → 認定年月:2015年7月
● μ's Best Album Best Live! Collection II by μ's → 認定年月:2015年5月
● 冬がくれた予感 by BiBi → 認定年月:2015年1月
● μ's Best Album Best Live! collection by μ's → 認定年月:2014年6月
● タカラモノズ/Paradise Live by μ's → 認定年月:2014年5月
● それは僕たちの奇跡 by μ's → 認定年月:2014年4月


Woah.. I didn't know aqours finally has their first gold disc. Pretty impressive coming from a 2 year old group.

Was this oricon sales or digital?


It is based on how many physical copies were shipped by the distributor, so digital is not included. I'm pretty sure there's a separate category for digital sales.

Reasons why Oricon sales numbers can differ from the shipped numbers:
● Oricon only publishes sales numbers within Japan, so any copies shipped and/or sold outside of Japan are still counted by the RIAJ.
● CDs do sell some copies every week, but may not be enough to make the Weekly Top 200 Singles/Top 300 Albums threshold, and are therefore not reflected in the cumulative total.
● Shipped copies does not necessarily mean all were sold to consumers, as some could still be sitting in stock, lost in transit, etc.

Jun 12, 2017 4:24 AM by Ejc

Ejc said:
hpulley said:
The problem with Aqours physical CD sales is the short tails. Those indicate that casual fans are not there. So Aqours lost both hardcore Muse fans and casual fans. Those casual fans are hard to get back. They are the reason why Muse was able to get mainstream popularity while Aqours fans are mostly just otaku, LoveLivers and Sukufesu players.


I agree with this. The impressive thing with μ's, is that their CDs have had very long sales tails (μ's Best Album Best Live! collection charted for 145 consecutive weeks). Even if nothing new has happened in the franchise, they rarely had any week where one of their CDs did not make the Top 200 Singles/Top 300 Albums cut-off. This is quite different to Aqours... but maybe it's still too early to be too hard on them.

Who knows, maybe Aqours will have a huge momentum boost when the 2nd Season Anime airs like with μ's, but we have to think of things realistically. Aqours has a lot of ground to make up to even reach μ's level of success. I wish them the best of luck, but getting their first gold disc certification without live concert event ticket sales doping (as in not a mini live event ticket) should be a nice start for them:
http://www.riaj.or.jp/f/data/cert/gd.html

Gold disc certifications from the RIAJ (100,000 shipped copies <= x shipped copies < 250,000 shipped copies)
Love Live! Sunshine!!
● 君のこころは輝いてるかい? by Aqours → 認定年月:2017年5月
Love Live!
● HEART to HEART! by μ's → 認定年月:2016年7月
● 錯覚CROSSROADS by BiBi → 認定年月:2016年4月
● MOMENT RING by μ's → 認定年月:2016年3月
● 僕たちはひとつの光/Future style by μ's/1年生 → 認定年月:2015年7月
● SUNNY DAY SONG/?←HEARTBEAT by μ's/3年生 → 認定年月:2015年7月
● Angelic Angel/Hello,星を数えて by μ's/2年生 → 認定年月:2015年7月
● μ's Best Album Best Live! Collection II by μ's → 認定年月:2015年5月
● 冬がくれた予感 by BiBi → 認定年月:2015年1月
● μ's Best Album Best Live! collection by μ's → 認定年月:2014年6月
● タカラモノズ/Paradise Live by μ's → 認定年月:2014年5月
● それは僕たちの奇跡 by μ's → 認定年月:2014年4月


Woah.. I didn't know aqours finally has their first gold disc. Pretty impressive coming from a 2 year old group.

Was this oricon sales or digital?

Jun 11, 2017 9:51 AM by jayvee2016

Sooo happy for Sayuri.

Jun 9, 2017 4:18 PM by Sury

hpulley said:
The problem with Aqours physical CD sales is the short tails. Those indicate that casual fans are not there. So Aqours lost both hardcore Muse fans and casual fans. Those casual fans are hard to get back. They are the reason why Muse was able to get mainstream popularity while Aqours fans are mostly just otaku, LoveLivers and Sukufesu players.


I agree with this. The impressive thing with μ's, is that their CDs have had very long sales tails (μ's Best Album Best Live! collection charted for 145 consecutive weeks). Even if nothing new has happened in the franchise, they rarely had any week where one of their CDs did not make the Top 200 Singles/Top 300 Albums cut-off. This is quite different to Aqours... but maybe it's still too early to be too hard on them.

Who knows, maybe Aqours will have a huge momentum boost when the 2nd Season Anime airs like with μ's, but we have to think of things realistically. Aqours has a lot of ground to make up to even reach μ's level of success. I wish them the best of luck, but getting their first gold disc certification without live concert event ticket sales doping (as in not a mini live event ticket) should be a nice start for them:
http://www.riaj.or.jp/f/data/cert/gd.html

Gold disc certifications from the RIAJ (100,000 shipped copies <= x shipped copies < 250,000 shipped copies)
Love Live! Sunshine!!
● 君のこころは輝いてるかい? by Aqours → 認定年月:2017年5月
Love Live!
● HEART to HEART! by μ's → 認定年月:2016年7月
● 錯覚CROSSROADS by BiBi → 認定年月:2016年4月
● MOMENT RING by μ's → 認定年月:2016年3月
● 僕たちはひとつの光/Future style by μ's/1年生 → 認定年月:2015年7月
● SUNNY DAY SONG/?←HEARTBEAT by μ's/3年生 → 認定年月:2015年7月
● Angelic Angel/Hello,星を数えて by μ's/2年生 → 認定年月:2015年7月
● μ's Best Album Best Live! Collection II by μ's → 認定年月:2015年5月
● 冬がくれた予感 by BiBi → 認定年月:2015年1月
● μ's Best Album Best Live! collection by μ's → 認定年月:2014年6月
● タカラモノズ/Paradise Live by μ's → 認定年月:2014年5月
● それは僕たちの奇跡 by μ's → 認定年月:2014年4月

Jun 8, 2017 11:04 PM by Ejc

The Kemono Friends OP above which has sold ~31.5K CDs has already gone gold digitally with over 120K digital sales. I am not sure if LoveLive Sunshine buyers remain more physical merch buyers than digital or if a ~4:1 ratio is normal these days.

Muse didn't peak until the movie. Angelic Angel and the final single Moment Ring were the top sellers, identical if we assume normal Oricon reporting error ranges.

The problem with Aqours physical CD sales is the short tails. Those indicate that casual fans are not there. So Aqours lost both hardcore Muse fans and casual fans. Those casual fans are hard to get back. They are the reason why Muse was able to get mainstream popularity while Aqours fans are mostly just otaku, LoveLivers and Sukufesu players.

I like that LoveLive music has never really been like normal idol music. I don't buy AKB48 or Idolmaster as it really doesn't appeal to me. I much prefer the music from the LoveLive franchise and have bought every disc since the start of 2012.

I wish Aqours the best. I love their music and the seiyuu. The characters are still pretty undeveloped and the story isn't great but the 3D girls are great, FirstLoveLive was awesome. I hope the SecondLive tour increases their exposure and popularity.

Jun 8, 2017 5:53 AM by hpulley

@novalysis

I've heard many complaints from all corners of the internet saying that "most" of Aquors pumps out is not real idol music. It's a more "pop," honestly Idk how to describe it since I don't even know music genre's that well, but I do know that there is a significant difference between Muse and Aquors songs. Songs such as Sky Journey and Daydream warrior don't even have a counterpart in Muse, cause they're not exactly "idol" songs. It's smart how coordinated Sunshine's team (not the idols themselves, but hata aki and other writers) is though because S1 of Sunshine, most of the songs are mostly like Muse, kinda has the idol-ish feel to it, but the more time goes by, the more they release songs like Sky Journey and Daydream Warrior. Hopefully by S2, they keep the style of those two songs, because those two songs are at number 7 and number 15 in my most listened to songs when I have been listening to Muse for a straight year before Aquors.

I meant that they barely realized that following in Muse's footsteps isn't going to get them anywhere, they barely figured that out in the last episode. That is why I think they still technically don't deserve to replace Muse because it would seem like its just a copy and paste, but Season 2 will definitely change that, but as of now people will think that Aquors is still a copy and paste depending on their actions in Season 2. And yes, their songs are hella fire.

Got me there, I was looking at Binetsu Kara Mystery release date. And I mentioned digital because I was comparing it to Digital market sales in the US. Digital is getting larger and larger here, so I was thinking it was the same for Japan. Especially since Japan is slow on the digital age, but what made me even consider digital is that there was a Gobiano whatever article that said that more and more Publishers and studios are investing towards streaming anime. So maybe I thought they're finally transitioning to a digital age, slowly... but still going..

Jun 8, 2017 2:47 AM by Elegade

jayvee2016 said:
*4. *,*27,024 *,*27,024 GALAXY HidE and SeeK by AZALEA

Hmmm.. an ok sale I guess following aqours standards.

If GK can sell more than twice or thice of this then I will see that as the upper limit of Aqours subunits.. at least before the s2 arrives


27k is probably roughly around what a "normal" sub-unit should be getting around this time of Aqours, located inter-season, post First Live and so on. Please also keep in mind - the 40k figures for Printemps and Lily White are sales numbers of the Post SIP S2 and Post Movie era, respectively. The sub-units were all getting around 15-16k figures around the equivalent inter-season era for Muse. So yes, AZALEA sales are ok by Aqours standards (CYaRon isn't, though it still sells more than BanGDream's Rosaleia first week if memory serves....)

That being said, Love Live has reached a much higher degree of awareness among the anime consuming base, at least where the main unit is concerned. The question then, of course, is where the additional 27k or so consumers who bought Happy Party Train are when it comes to the sub-units. Can Season 2 win back the missing additional 40k+ consumers who bought Moment Ring, which we knew were around back at the start of Aqours? It depends on what happened to those 40k customers and what led them to go away;, and whether there are still more Anisong and J Pop fans who might be receptive to the 2.5D Idol concept to tap into.

This brings me to my second point: GK getting twice the number of sales as AZALEA, is.... quite overly-optimistic in my opinion as much as I want it to happen. That would be 54k sales, which is basically the level of Happy Party Train, Aqours third single which was released in April.

Firstly, this would be an unprecedented gap between sub-units in the Love Live franchise. Secondly, this basically means Guilty Kiss is on par with the main unit, which basically means the Love Live franchise has a potential Baby-Metal on its hands - and this is with the least boost from a recent Live, apparently (I am told, though I cannot confirm the veracity of this, so take this with a huge pinch of salt) less marketing than a normal Aqours single and no animated PV to go along with the song.

Finally, even basic view count numbers of the preview aren't probably supporting a 54k scenario. Kowareyasuki's view count numbers are now rising slowly, and less than twice the rate of Galaxy Hide and Seek around the same time a week in from preview drop The song blazed through quickly through the fandom... and I suspect didn't really successfully leave it. If Kowareyasuki went viral instead (maybe it could in the following days? I doubt it) then yes, I'd say a 40K+, 50k+ scenario becomes more plausible.

Don't get me wrong. as a Guilty Kiss fan, I want to see their second single sell twice that of Aqours sub-units. But I seriously doubt it's really going to be possible - hence my 33.6k to 36.6k estimates. Twice of CYaRon, by the way, means that Guilty Kiss would beat Aquarium, Aqours second single. Perhaps I might be too pessimistic here, but I'd be interested in hearing why.

Elegade said:


Aquors has not proven themselves as a group that they can be worthy successors to Muse yet, season 1 ended with them barely accomplishing anything except for the fact that they should not follow in Muse's footsteps but become their own group with their own goals instead.

Aquors has also only done 1 live tour so far, while Muse did 2-5 when those two lily white albums came out.

Also I don't know how much of a difference this is, but those two lily white albums came out in 2013 and 2015, while Azalea's came out in 2016-2017. No tracker is tracking digital sales, especially in music where Digital is making billions more than physical.


I'm going to respond sentence by sentence. I think the idea that the similarity of the anime and the fact that Aqours is seen as replacements for Muse mandated by Lantis Corporate alienated a lot of Love Live fans is an interesting one. If this is true, then Aqours launching very different music, and capped on-top with a Sunshine S2 that really deviates from SIP S2 should actually be producing quite abit of a boost, instead of none at all which peaking implies. Can the anime do it? Well, Aqours hasn't actually saved their school yet, and the show ends mid tournament. We shall see, but I would say that the last few episodes of Sunshine S1 could put the S2 in an interesting place.

Secondly, I'm not sure what you mean by Aqours proving themselves as a worthy successor. Do you mean anime-wise? Because I suspect that it's actually the music that probably will probably affect things more in the inter-season period, especially where sub-units (who haven't featured in the anime yet) are concerned. And in terms of music... well AZALEA went full EDM with Innocent Bird (and it ain't anything Lily White produced to my ears); and before that, we've got interesting pieces like Thrilling One Way and Daydream Warriors where Aqours musically seems to be diverging fast from Muse. The idea that novelty in Love Live Music will be rewarded probably depends on how well Guilty Kiss punt into metal will fare.

Finally, a quick correction if you don't mind. The 3rd and 4th Muse sub-unit singles were released at the end of 2014 and end of 2015 respectively. I suspect that most people by 2014 even in Japan (I do think that those two Muse sub-units singles were sold digitally, correct me if I am mistaken) buy the singles for the purpose of collecting, much like any sales of other physical merchandise.

In any case, keep in mind this: even for a supposedly declining franchise, Aqours is consistently selling within the Oricon top 10 weekly, and if CYaRon singles were excluded, in the Top 5 weekly.

Jun 8, 2017 2:12 AM by novalysis

*4. *,*27,024 *,*27,024 GALAXY HidE and SeeK by AZALEA

Hmmm.. an ok sale I guess following aqours standards.

If GK can sell more than twice or thice of this then I will see that as the upper limit of aqours sub units.. at least before the s2 arrives

Jun 7, 2017 3:32 PM by jayvee2016

@pika09 My bad for believing this article, which unclear about which CD is which result (Spring CD was mentioned first, so I thought sentence-wise is correspondent). Fixed, thanks.

Jun 7, 2017 1:56 AM by tsubasalover

Okay, so I couldn't believe that A3's Spring EP would sell more than Summer's since ever since its release on the 24th Summer's been higher than Spring on the daily Oricon rankings.

So I went ahead and checked Oricon's rankings myself, and I saw that you've swapped Spring's and Summer's places for both this week and the previous week:
http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/w/2017-06-12/p/2/
(Summer is #15 at 4864 copies, Spring at 18 with 4234)
For the previous week:
http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/w/2017-06-05/
(Summer was at #3, Spring at #5)

My month-long prediction of Summer selling more than Spring was right after all.

Jun 6, 2017 11:00 PM by pika09

Elegade said:

I don't think that this is their peak popularity, not by a long shot. Ever since that episode of little Honoka and Hanayo and Rin clone came out, people were still salty that Muse got replaced, and that was just MAL, where Idol fanboyism isn't that high. Now imagine Japan where they will lynch you when you disagree with their waifu.

Aquors has not proven themselves as a group that they can be worthy successors to Muse yet, season 1 ended with them barely accomplishing anything except for the fact that they should not follow in Muse's footsteps but become their own group with their own goals instead.

Aquors has also only done 1 live tour so far, while Muse did 2-5 when those two lily white albums came out.

Also I don't know how much of a difference this is, but those two lily white albums came out in 2013 and 2015, while Azalea's came out in 2016-2017. No tracker is tracking digital sales, especially in music where Digital is making billions more than physical.


it can go both ways i think, aqours debuted at the peak of ll's popularity so you can say this is their peak but at the same time they replaced muse so ll fans aren't warming up to them yet so this might not be their peak
my point in my previous comment was that aquors' sales are either going to stay the same or decrease, they aren't going to become any more popular than they already are with a s2 or a movie (like muse did) especially if the developers decide to debut a new gen of ll
and i don't think digital sales has anything to do with this when you have old franchises like im@s that is selling better than ever now

Jun 6, 2017 3:47 PM by zaso

zaso said:
those azalea numbers... aqours are just not doing as good as they should in the music sales area (them being muse's successors and all) and i don't think their sales will improve with s2 and movie because this is the peak of their popularity


Muse wasn't at their peak until s2 and the movie, I think the sunshine anime had a big sales boost after the first concert so the muse diehards are starting to come around.

Jun 6, 2017 3:45 PM by ichii_1

zaso said:
those azalea numbers... aqours are just not doing as good as they should in the music sales area (them being muse's successors and all) and i don't think their sales will improve with s2 and movie because this is the peak of their popularity

i mean compare azalea's first week sales to lily white's first week sales post s2 (peak of muse's popularity)

lily white
40,116 秋のあなたの空遠く
40,750 思い出以上になりたくて
azalea
24,621 トリコリコPLEASE!!
27,024 GALAXY HidE and SeeK


I don't think that this is their peak popularity, not by a long shot. Ever since that episode of little Honoka and Hanayo and Rin clone came out, people were still salty that Muse got replaced, and that was just MAL, where Idol fanboyism isn't that high. Now imagine Japan where they will lynch you when you disagree with their waifu.

Aquors has not proven themselves as a group that they can be worthy successors to Muse yet, season 1 ended with them barely accomplishing anything except for the fact that they should not follow in Muse's footsteps but become their own group with their own goals instead.

Aquors has also only done 1 live tour so far, while Muse did 2-5 when those two lily white albums came out.

Also I don't know how much of a difference this is, but those two lily white albums came out in 2013 and 2015, while Azalea's came out in 2016-2017. No tracker is tracking digital sales, especially in music where Digital is making billions more than physical.

Jun 6, 2017 10:56 AM by Elegade

Yaoi-Senpai said:
15. *,**4,864 *,*35,763 A3! First SPRING EP by Spring Troupe [Sakuya Sakuma (CV: Hirota Sakurai), Masumi Usui (CV: Yuusuke Shirai), Tsuzuru Minagi (CV: Koutarou Nishiyama), Itaru Chigasaki (CV: Shintarou Asanuma), Citron (CV: Masashi Igarashi)]

18. *,**4,234 *,*32,836 A3! First SUMMER EP by Summer Troupe [Tenma Sumeragi (CV: Takuya Eguchi), Yuki Rurikawa (CV: Shunichi Toki), Muku Sakisaka (CV: Yoshitaka Yamaya), Misumi Ikaruga (CV: Daisuke Hirose), Kazunari Miyoshi (CV: Ren Ozawa)]

I prefer Summer song's more than spring. But I'm so happy to see them selling.
So which one is selling more, A3! Songs or Ensemble Stars?


a3! only have albums so far and enstars only have singles but you can see their sales here:
http://anisonsinger.blogspot.fr/2017/02/a3.html
http://anisonsinger.blogspot.fr/2015/10/blog-post_29.html

Jun 6, 2017 10:53 AM by zaso

15. *,**4,864 *,*35,763 A3! First SPRING EP by Spring Troupe [Sakuya Sakuma (CV: Hirota Sakurai), Masumi Usui (CV: Yuusuke Shirai), Tsuzuru Minagi (CV: Koutarou Nishiyama), Itaru Chigasaki (CV: Shintarou Asanuma), Citron (CV: Masashi Igarashi)]

18. *,**4,234 *,*32,836 A3! First SUMMER EP by Summer Troupe [Tenma Sumeragi (CV: Takuya Eguchi), Yuki Rurikawa (CV: Shunichi Toki), Muku Sakisaka (CV: Yoshitaka Yamaya), Misumi Ikaruga (CV: Daisuke Hirose), Kazunari Miyoshi (CV: Ren Ozawa)]

I prefer Summer song's more than spring. But I'm so happy to see them selling.
So which one is selling more, A3! Songs or Ensemble Stars?

53. *,**1,144 *,*73,467 MANKAI☆Kaika Sengen by A3ders! [Sakuya Sakuma (CV: Koudai Sakai), Tenma Sumeragi (CV: Takuya Eguchi), Banri Settsu (CV: Chihiro Sawashiro), Tsumugi Tsukioka (CV: Atsushi Tamaru)]

OMG ITS SELLING TILL NOW YAAAAY

Jun 6, 2017 10:47 AM by Yaoi-Senpai

those azalea numbers... aqours are just not doing as good as they should in the music sales area (them being muse's successors and all) and i don't think their sales will improve with s2 and movie because this is the peak of their popularity

i mean compare azalea's first week sales to lily white's first week sales post s2 (peak of muse's popularity)

lily white
40,116 秋のあなたの空遠く
40,750 思い出以上になりたくて
azalea
24,621 トリコリコPLEASE!!
27,024 GALAXY HidE and SeeK

Jun 6, 2017 10:29 AM by zaso

GALAXY HidE and SeeK by Azalea was a little bit weak, both in terms of sales and the actual song, however INNOCENT BIRD is probably my favorite song from the entirety of Rabu Raibu Sunshine.

Jun 6, 2017 9:56 AM by Elegade

novalysis said:
I anticipate that this thread, much like the one back when CYaRon's second single was released would make many remarks about how 27k for a Love Live sub-unit is a low number by franchise standards.

I'd like to put a few numbers in perspective here, in anticipation of this likely conversation.

AZALEA's second single has sold about 2.6k more copies than CYaRon's second single (24.4k). Some facts to consider in light of these numbers.

AZALEA's first single sold 1.6k more than CyaRon 1st Single (22.8k vs 24.6k)
Lily White 4th single sold 600 more copies than Printemp 4th Single (40.7k vs 40.1k)
Lily White 3rd Single sold 1.6k more copies than Printemp 3rd Single (40.1k vs 38.5k)
The earliest two sub-unit singles had even smaller differences in sales numbers between Lily White and Printemps.

In other words, the disparity between AZALEA and CYaRon is the largest yet between the second and third most popular sub-units.

Secondly, CYaRon's second single only grew by 6.8% from its first single. AZALEA's second single has grown by 9.8%. In comparison, Aqours Third single grew by 16.5% over its Second single.

Thirdly, many fans are likely to buy all three singles all at once, rather than one at a time, because of reasons such as discounts for buying all three sub-units singles in a bundle. This means that there is a debuff to AZALEA and CYaRon's first week sales, though how big this is, depends on how well Guilty Kiss does in its debut week.

Fourthly, in light of the third reason, AZALEA's second single should give us a minimum floor we can expect from Guilty Kiss Second Single. Were Guilty Kiss to grow by 9.6% from its first single (30.6k), sales should be 33.6k. In actuality, Guilty Kiss will probably grow by more than that amount. How much more? Well, the Guilty Kiss Second single preview hit 200k views in about 36 or so hours - CYaRon could not achieve this with even 19 or so days between preview drop and release day.

P.s: It is my opinion that CYaRon has performed exceptionally poorly for an Aqours sub-unit, and AZALEA sales results likely reflect the sub-unit "norm" for this generation of Love Live at this stage of Aqours life span.


TL;DR
Guilty Kiss will wipe the floor with the other sub-units, just like BiBi did back then.

Jun 6, 2017 4:02 AM by KuuhakuDesu

I anticipate that this thread, much like the one back when CYaRon's second single was released would make many remarks about how 27k for a Love Live sub-unit is a low number by franchise standards.

I'd like to put a few numbers in perspective here, in anticipation of this likely conversation.

AZALEA's second single has sold about 2.6k more copies than CYaRon's second single (24.4k). Some facts to consider in light of these numbers.

AZALEA's first single sold 1.6k more than CyaRon 1st Single (22.8k vs 24.6k)
Lily White 4th single sold 600 more copies than Printemp 4th Single (40.7k vs 40.1k)
Lily White 3rd Single sold 1.6k more copies than Printemp 3rd Single (40.1k vs 38.5k)
The earliest two sub-unit singles had even smaller differences in sales numbers between Lily White and Printemps.

In other words, the disparity between AZALEA and CYaRon is the largest yet between the second and third most popular sub-units.

Secondly, CYaRon's second single only grew by 6.8% from its first single. AZALEA's second single has grown by 9.8%. In comparison, Aqours Third single grew by 16.5% over its Second single.

Thirdly, many fans are likely to buy all three singles all at once, rather than one at a time, because of reasons such as discounts for buying all three sub-units singles in a bundle. This means that there is a debuff to AZALEA and CYaRon's first week sales, though how big this is, depends on how well Guilty Kiss does in its debut week.

Fourthly, in light of the third reason, AZALEA's second single should give us a minimum floor we can expect from Guilty Kiss Second Single. Were Guilty Kiss to grow by 9.6% from its first single (30.6k), sales should be 33.6k. In actuality, Guilty Kiss will probably grow by more than that amount. How much more? Well, the Guilty Kiss Second single preview hit 200k views in about 36 or so hours - CYaRon could not achieve this with even 19 or so days between preview drop and release day.

P.s: It is my opinion that CYaRon has performed exceptionally poorly for an Aqours sub-unit, and AZALEA sales results likely reflect the sub-unit "norm" for this generation of Love Live at this stage of Aqours life span.

Jun 6, 2017 3:08 AM by novalysis

tsubasalover said:
CD Single
12. *,**7,507 *,*84,383 Cinderella Girls Gekijou ED "Kira! Mankai Smile" by THE IDOLM@STER CINDERELLA GIRLS LITTLE STARS! [Uzuki Shimamura (CV: Ayaka Ohashi), Miho Kohinata (CV: Minami Tsuda), Mayu Sakuma (CV: Yui Makino), Momoka Sakurai (CV: Haruka Terui), Anzu Futaba (CV: Hiromi Igarashi)]
19. *,**3,199 *,*30,645 Uta no ☆Prince-sama♪ Idol Song Ranmaru & Ai "Haruhana" by Ranmaru Kurozaki (CV: Tatsuhisa Suzuki) & Ai Mikaze (CV: Shouta Aoi)
32. *,**1,814 *,*58,558 Detective Conan Movie 21: The Crimson Love Letter ED "Togetsugyou ~Kimi Omou~" by Mai Kuraki
42. *,**1,203 *,*24,665 Golden Bomber "#CD ga Urenai Kono Yo no Naka Ja"
51. *,***,873 *,**3,982 Rokudenashi Majutsu Koushi to Akashic Records OP "Blow out" by Konomi Suzuki

CD Album
20. *,**3,953 *,**3,953 nano "The Crossing"
25. *,**2,894 *,*33,215 Linked Horizon "Shingeki no Kiseki" (incl. Shingeki no Kyojin Season 1 OPs "Guren no Yumiya" [Shingekisai ver. with Armin Narration], "Jiyuu no Tsubasa", Shingeki no Kyojin Movie 1: Guren no Yumiya ED "Guren no Zahyou", Shingeki no Kyojin Movie 2: Jiyuu no Tsubasa OP "Jiyuu no Daishou", Shingeki no Kyojin Season 2 OP "Shinzou wo Sasageyo!", and Shingeki! Kyojin Chuugakkou OP "Seishun wa Hanabi no You ni" [as bonus track of limited edition])
26. *,**2,544 *,*55,034 Aimer BEST SELECTION "blanc"
28. *,**2,365 *,*54,093 Aimer BEST SELECTION "noir"
30. *,**1,976 *,*16,050 Shou Kiryuuin (Golden Bomber) "Oni Cover 90's"
48. *,**1,361 *,*40,138 Detective Conan Movie Theme Song Album "20" All Songs~ by Various Artists
88. *,***,668 *,*65,130 Wagakki Band "Shikisai" (incl. Sousei no Onmyouji ED "Hotarubi")
I'm glad nano's album sold ok. I wonder why Golden Bomber's single came back to top 100. Because of vocalist's cover CD?

Jun 6, 2017 2:25 AM by tsubasalover