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Aug 30, 2024 12:40 AM
#1
Regardless of being a anime fan everyone knows dragon ball or the character Goku being from the hood you can be the toughest guy but still a dragon ball fan… does anyone think a anime could be more popular tbh I don’t aot is there one piece is definitely up there but I think reached it’s point of stardom |
Aug 30, 2024 12:51 AM
#2
probably so... it'll be a leviathan task to emulate Dragon Ball's success - over 30 years in the limelight. it's an imperial pioneer to all shonen, and other genres, as well. it'll remain in the annals of the manga/anime industry. |
Aug 30, 2024 12:53 AM
#3
Depend of country. In my country (Indonesia) Naruto is already more popular than Dragon Ball |
Aug 30, 2024 12:56 AM
#4
Already happened, my dude Im thinking Naruto....Im thinking One Piece....Im thinking Demon Slayer Or every Ghibli Film that is known even by my Grandmother xD |
Aug 30, 2024 1:12 AM
#5
Someone can make something appealing to India and China and beat Dragon Ball in raw numbers. Will it have Dragon Ball's longevity though? That remains to be seen. |
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Aug 30, 2024 1:13 AM
#6
sure wait for new generations of fans to outnumber the old dying generation of fans |
Aug 30, 2024 1:16 AM
#7
New anime fans aren’t even watching it nowadays |
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Aug 30, 2024 1:17 AM
#8
SorryNT said: Regardless of being a anime fan everyone knows dragon ball or the character Goku being from the hood you can be the toughest guy but still a dragon ball fan… does anyone think a anime could be more popular tbh I don’t aot is there one piece is definitely up there but I think reached it’s point of stardom Am I the only one who instead of ranking anime sees them all as unique. Like how every star in the sky has its unique light: Some are bright, others dim but every one of them have their own place They all come together to made beautiful work of art. |
Aug 30, 2024 1:29 AM
#9
In my country, Pokemon, Bayblade, Shinchan, Doraemon and Ninja Hattori are more popular than Dragon Ball. Dragon Ball is also popular but not like the these |
Aug 30, 2024 1:31 AM
#10
All these ppl saying it's not the most popular anime in their country don't understand how popularity even works💀 |
Aug 30, 2024 1:37 AM
#11
These new gen fans don’t even watch dragon ball because of “old animation” and because it doesn’t have any “story” |
Aug 30, 2024 1:47 AM
#12
If you’re just talking about the franchise as a whole then Pokemon is probably bigger. It’s hard to see any anime franchise surpassing both of them. |
Aug 30, 2024 2:36 AM
#13
Pokemon Everyone knows Pikachu and that’s not because of the games |
Aug 30, 2024 3:11 AM
#14
I know him because of the games, I never cared about the anime |
Aug 30, 2024 4:05 AM
#15
Have you guys seen the amount of views on YouTube sparking zero is getting for an ANIME game…. The series is getting more attention alone towards the last quarter of this year plus a new DB spin off is dropping in the fall It just goes to show the longevity of this series and the amount of attention it can still pull even without it dropping a new season since 2018 (I might be glazing 💀) |
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Aug 30, 2024 4:21 AM
#16
Regardles, the anime is still going strong. It's been how long since the 1st Pomemon episode aired, 25 years? BTT - neither in terms of longevity nor sheer popularity is Dragon Ball (Z) at the top in this day and age. The show had it's time, it is a great piece of pop culture history and will keep on making money, but it's impact has diminished over the years. |
Aug 30, 2024 6:28 AM
#17
I DONN THINK SOOO dragon ball Z ISA CULTURAL impact all around thaaa world and WAS responsible for SHONENS JUMPS GOLDEN AGE |
Aug 30, 2024 6:53 AM
#18
Not sure about popularity nowadays, but Dragon Ball and Son Goku are surely among the most widely known names from all anime, maybe exceeded by Pokemon and Pikachu. |
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Aug 30, 2024 7:00 AM
#19
Pendragon572 said: SorryNT said: Regardless of being a anime fan everyone knows dragon ball or the character Goku being from the hood you can be the toughest guy but still a dragon ball fan… does anyone think a anime could be more popular tbh I don’t aot is there one piece is definitely up there but I think reached it’s point of stardom Am I the only one who instead of ranking anime sees them all as unique. Like how every star in the sky has its unique light: Some are bright, others dim but every one of them have their own place They all come together to made beautiful work of art. Wish I could say the same, but so many anime carry copy-paste narratives, themes, characters and concepts. Hell, even execution can feel one-to-one in a way that's a bit uncanny. Not to say people aren't allowed to enjoy those. But at this point, it takes a lot to push me to see an anime as unique. An occasional anime can find that tone that hasn't been seen before, but it takes a lot to get there. And that's also not to be an extremist and demand anime constantly change the framework nonstop. It has pretty much embraced the "advertise the manga" business module at this point, which is why so many have watered down ideas, end at abrupt points or occasionally make their own ending. Most recent from my experience of the last one being Kono Healer. If you want a good enough idea on this, think of the ranks. Took FMA:B over a decade to finally lose to another anime, Frieren. No bots, no nothing. Just naturally fell to second place. I'd imagine it will be another couple of decades until something beats Frieren. |
Aug 30, 2024 7:07 AM
#20
Notshane said: Pendragon572 said: SorryNT said: Regardless of being a anime fan everyone knows dragon ball or the character Goku being from the hood you can be the toughest guy but still a dragon ball fan… does anyone think a anime could be more popular tbh I don’t aot is there one piece is definitely up there but I think reached it’s point of stardom Am I the only one who instead of ranking anime sees them all as unique. Like how every star in the sky has its unique light: Some are bright, others dim but every one of them have their own place They all come together to made beautiful work of art. Wish I could say the same, but so many anime carry copy-paste narratives, themes, characters and concepts. Hell, even execution can feel one-to-one in a way that's a bit uncanny. Not to say people aren't allowed to enjoy those. But at this point, it takes a lot to push me to see an anime as unique. An occasional anime can find that tone that hasn't been seen before, but it takes a lot to get there. And that's also not to be an extremist and demand anime constantly change the framework nonstop. It has pretty much embraced the "advertise the manga" business module at this point, which is why so many have watered down ideas, end at abrupt points or occasionally make their own ending. Most recent from my experience of the last one being Kono Healer. If you want a good enough idea on this, think of the ranks. Took FMA:B over a decade to finally lose to another anime, Frieren. No bots, no nothing. Just naturally fell to second place. I'd imagine it will be another couple of decades until something beats Frieren. To tell you the truth, I don't think I've ever watched an anime that I I'd hated or would be happy if it not existed. Part of that might be because I just drop anime if it think it's boring but I do have a tendency to go back to those anime when I'm a little older and they turn out to be quite enjoyable. And about the Manga part I don't usually read Manga but where I've found a tree (with anime) I've found a forest (from the light novals) so it's a win win situation for me. |
Aug 30, 2024 7:17 AM
#21
Pendragon572 said: Notshane said: Pendragon572 said: SorryNT said: Regardless of being a anime fan everyone knows dragon ball or the character Goku being from the hood you can be the toughest guy but still a dragon ball fan… does anyone think a anime could be more popular tbh I don’t aot is there one piece is definitely up there but I think reached it’s point of stardom Am I the only one who instead of ranking anime sees them all as unique. Like how every star in the sky has its unique light: Some are bright, others dim but every one of them have their own place They all come together to made beautiful work of art. Wish I could say the same, but so many anime carry copy-paste narratives, themes, characters and concepts. Hell, even execution can feel one-to-one in a way that's a bit uncanny. Not to say people aren't allowed to enjoy those. But at this point, it takes a lot to push me to see an anime as unique. An occasional anime can find that tone that hasn't been seen before, but it takes a lot to get there. And that's also not to be an extremist and demand anime constantly change the framework nonstop. It has pretty much embraced the "advertise the manga" business module at this point, which is why so many have watered down ideas, end at abrupt points or occasionally make their own ending. Most recent from my experience of the last one being Kono Healer. If you want a good enough idea on this, think of the ranks. Took FMA:B over a decade to finally lose to another anime, Frieren. No bots, no nothing. Just naturally fell to second place. I'd imagine it will be another couple of decades until something beats Frieren. To tell you the truth, I don't think I've ever watched an anime that I I'd hated or would be happy if it not existed. Part of that might be because I just drop anime if it think it's boring but I do have a tendency to go back to those anime when I'm a little older and they turn out to be quite enjoyable. And about the Manga part I don't usually read Manga but where I've found a tree (with anime) I've found a forest (from the light novals) so it's a win win situation for me. If you're curious about some truly rough anime, try to take a look at ones I've given 3 and below, hahah. Your optimism has me curious now. Maybe you can shed some light on why those ones have redeemable merits to them and let me know what you think. |
Aug 30, 2024 7:20 AM
#22
Notshane said: Pendragon572 said: Notshane said: Pendragon572 said: SorryNT said: Regardless of being a anime fan everyone knows dragon ball or the character Goku being from the hood you can be the toughest guy but still a dragon ball fan… does anyone think a anime could be more popular tbh I don’t aot is there one piece is definitely up there but I think reached it’s point of stardom Am I the only one who instead of ranking anime sees them all as unique. Like how every star in the sky has its unique light: Some are bright, others dim but every one of them have their own place They all come together to made beautiful work of art. Wish I could say the same, but so many anime carry copy-paste narratives, themes, characters and concepts. Hell, even execution can feel one-to-one in a way that's a bit uncanny. Not to say people aren't allowed to enjoy those. But at this point, it takes a lot to push me to see an anime as unique. An occasional anime can find that tone that hasn't been seen before, but it takes a lot to get there. And that's also not to be an extremist and demand anime constantly change the framework nonstop. It has pretty much embraced the "advertise the manga" business module at this point, which is why so many have watered down ideas, end at abrupt points or occasionally make their own ending. Most recent from my experience of the last one being Kono Healer. If you want a good enough idea on this, think of the ranks. Took FMA:B over a decade to finally lose to another anime, Frieren. No bots, no nothing. Just naturally fell to second place. I'd imagine it will be another couple of decades until something beats Frieren. To tell you the truth, I don't think I've ever watched an anime that I I'd hated or would be happy if it not existed. Part of that might be because I just drop anime if it think it's boring but I do have a tendency to go back to those anime when I'm a little older and they turn out to be quite enjoyable. And about the Manga part I don't usually read Manga but where I've found a tree (with anime) I've found a forest (from the light novals) so it's a win win situation for me. If you're curious about some truly rough anime, try to take a look at ones I've given 3 and below, hahah. Your optimism has me curious now. Maybe you can shed some light on why those ones have redeemable merits to them and let me know what you think. Optimism. Is that what you assumed? It's actually the opposite. I'm so pessimistic that every Anime I watch just does better then I expect. And if it doesn't I just either ignore it or drop it. I'm too lazy to get angry. |
Aug 30, 2024 7:25 AM
#23
nope definitely no way aside from anime lovers even people those who don't watch animes love DBz u can even ask any person who is even in 20's and don't even know what animes actually are but he definitely know who bruh (GOKU) is. yeah maybe one piece may be popular in anime lovers but only in those who watch animes. u know many people who don't watch anime but loved Dbz but can't say abt one piece only those who love anime watched it. |
Aug 30, 2024 7:32 AM
#24
Pendragon572 said: Notshane said: Pendragon572 said: Notshane said: Pendragon572 said: SorryNT said: Regardless of being a anime fan everyone knows dragon ball or the character Goku being from the hood you can be the toughest guy but still a dragon ball fan… does anyone think a anime could be more popular tbh I don’t aot is there one piece is definitely up there but I think reached it’s point of stardom Am I the only one who instead of ranking anime sees them all as unique. Like how every star in the sky has its unique light: Some are bright, others dim but every one of them have their own place They all come together to made beautiful work of art. Wish I could say the same, but so many anime carry copy-paste narratives, themes, characters and concepts. Hell, even execution can feel one-to-one in a way that's a bit uncanny. Not to say people aren't allowed to enjoy those. But at this point, it takes a lot to push me to see an anime as unique. An occasional anime can find that tone that hasn't been seen before, but it takes a lot to get there. And that's also not to be an extremist and demand anime constantly change the framework nonstop. It has pretty much embraced the "advertise the manga" business module at this point, which is why so many have watered down ideas, end at abrupt points or occasionally make their own ending. Most recent from my experience of the last one being Kono Healer. If you want a good enough idea on this, think of the ranks. Took FMA:B over a decade to finally lose to another anime, Frieren. No bots, no nothing. Just naturally fell to second place. I'd imagine it will be another couple of decades until something beats Frieren. To tell you the truth, I don't think I've ever watched an anime that I I'd hated or would be happy if it not existed. Part of that might be because I just drop anime if it think it's boring but I do have a tendency to go back to those anime when I'm a little older and they turn out to be quite enjoyable. And about the Manga part I don't usually read Manga but where I've found a tree (with anime) I've found a forest (from the light novals) so it's a win win situation for me. If you're curious about some truly rough anime, try to take a look at ones I've given 3 and below, hahah. Your optimism has me curious now. Maybe you can shed some light on why those ones have redeemable merits to them and let me know what you think. Optimism. Is that what you assumed? It's actually the opposite. I'm so pessimistic that every Anime I watch just does better then I expect. And if it doesn't I just either ignore it or drop it. I'm too lazy to get angry. Meanwhile, I'm optimistic and every anime does worse than I expect, hahahah. It definitely shows in the numbers I've built up. For quite a long time too, I avoided dropping them. But eventually realized that was impossible as some started to become quite difficult to watch and it felt redundant wasting time on something I had already given up on a long time ago. I usually try to be willing to give the obligatory three episodes whenever possible, though. Especially Madoka Magica and that insane sequence with Mami. Can't forget the anime committing enough to its new tone to change the ED to better reflect the new atmosphere it threw you into. |
Aug 30, 2024 7:40 AM
#25
Notshane said: Pendragon572 said: Notshane said: Pendragon572 said: Notshane said: Pendragon572 said: SorryNT said: Regardless of being a anime fan everyone knows dragon ball or the character Goku being from the hood you can be the toughest guy but still a dragon ball fan… does anyone think a anime could be more popular tbh I don’t aot is there one piece is definitely up there but I think reached it’s point of stardom Am I the only one who instead of ranking anime sees them all as unique. Like how every star in the sky has its unique light: Some are bright, others dim but every one of them have their own place They all come together to made beautiful work of art. Wish I could say the same, but so many anime carry copy-paste narratives, themes, characters and concepts. Hell, even execution can feel one-to-one in a way that's a bit uncanny. Not to say people aren't allowed to enjoy those. But at this point, it takes a lot to push me to see an anime as unique. An occasional anime can find that tone that hasn't been seen before, but it takes a lot to get there. And that's also not to be an extremist and demand anime constantly change the framework nonstop. It has pretty much embraced the "advertise the manga" business module at this point, which is why so many have watered down ideas, end at abrupt points or occasionally make their own ending. Most recent from my experience of the last one being Kono Healer. If you want a good enough idea on this, think of the ranks. Took FMA:B over a decade to finally lose to another anime, Frieren. No bots, no nothing. Just naturally fell to second place. I'd imagine it will be another couple of decades until something beats Frieren. To tell you the truth, I don't think I've ever watched an anime that I I'd hated or would be happy if it not existed. Part of that might be because I just drop anime if it think it's boring but I do have a tendency to go back to those anime when I'm a little older and they turn out to be quite enjoyable. And about the Manga part I don't usually read Manga but where I've found a tree (with anime) I've found a forest (from the light novals) so it's a win win situation for me. If you're curious about some truly rough anime, try to take a look at ones I've given 3 and below, hahah. Your optimism has me curious now. Maybe you can shed some light on why those ones have redeemable merits to them and let me know what you think. Optimism. Is that what you assumed? It's actually the opposite. I'm so pessimistic that every Anime I watch just does better then I expect. And if it doesn't I just either ignore it or drop it. I'm too lazy to get angry. Meanwhile, I'm optimistic and every anime does worse than I expect, hahahah. It definitely shows in the numbers I've built up. For quite a long time too, I avoided dropping them. But eventually realized that was impossible as some started to become quite difficult to watch and it felt redundant wasting time on something I had already given up on a long time ago. I usually try to be willing to give the obligatory three episodes whenever possible, though. Especially Madoka Magica and that insane sequence with Mami. Can't forget the anime committing enough to its new tone to change the ED to better reflect the new atmosphere it threw you into. Let me tell you something if you're around age of 10 to 20 the most probable reason for an anime to seem boring might be that you couldn't understand it properly coz (speaking from experience) some anime at the beginning seem dome coz they hide important plot point in plain sight that can only be spotted of you've watched the entire show already or are really smart. Happens to me a lot. An example of hiding plot points in plain sight would be emenence in shadow. A show that seem like isn't very plot heavy and is just comady but it also hides some amazing things in the backgrounds. Like how it hid a certain someone joining their organization(which would happen in the last episode) in the very first episode. |
Aug 30, 2024 7:43 AM
#26
Pendragon572 said: Notshane said: Pendragon572 said: Notshane said: Pendragon572 said: Notshane said: Pendragon572 said: SorryNT said: Regardless of being a anime fan everyone knows dragon ball or the character Goku being from the hood you can be the toughest guy but still a dragon ball fan… does anyone think a anime could be more popular tbh I don’t aot is there one piece is definitely up there but I think reached it’s point of stardom Am I the only one who instead of ranking anime sees them all as unique. Like how every star in the sky has its unique light: Some are bright, others dim but every one of them have their own place They all come together to made beautiful work of art. Wish I could say the same, but so many anime carry copy-paste narratives, themes, characters and concepts. Hell, even execution can feel one-to-one in a way that's a bit uncanny. Not to say people aren't allowed to enjoy those. But at this point, it takes a lot to push me to see an anime as unique. An occasional anime can find that tone that hasn't been seen before, but it takes a lot to get there. And that's also not to be an extremist and demand anime constantly change the framework nonstop. It has pretty much embraced the "advertise the manga" business module at this point, which is why so many have watered down ideas, end at abrupt points or occasionally make their own ending. Most recent from my experience of the last one being Kono Healer. If you want a good enough idea on this, think of the ranks. Took FMA:B over a decade to finally lose to another anime, Frieren. No bots, no nothing. Just naturally fell to second place. I'd imagine it will be another couple of decades until something beats Frieren. To tell you the truth, I don't think I've ever watched an anime that I I'd hated or would be happy if it not existed. Part of that might be because I just drop anime if it think it's boring but I do have a tendency to go back to those anime when I'm a little older and they turn out to be quite enjoyable. And about the Manga part I don't usually read Manga but where I've found a tree (with anime) I've found a forest (from the light novals) so it's a win win situation for me. If you're curious about some truly rough anime, try to take a look at ones I've given 3 and below, hahah. Your optimism has me curious now. Maybe you can shed some light on why those ones have redeemable merits to them and let me know what you think. Optimism. Is that what you assumed? It's actually the opposite. I'm so pessimistic that every Anime I watch just does better then I expect. And if it doesn't I just either ignore it or drop it. I'm too lazy to get angry. Meanwhile, I'm optimistic and every anime does worse than I expect, hahahah. It definitely shows in the numbers I've built up. For quite a long time too, I avoided dropping them. But eventually realized that was impossible as some started to become quite difficult to watch and it felt redundant wasting time on something I had already given up on a long time ago. I usually try to be willing to give the obligatory three episodes whenever possible, though. Especially Madoka Magica and that insane sequence with Mami. Can't forget the anime committing enough to its new tone to change the ED to better reflect the new atmosphere it threw you into. Let me tell you something if you're around age of 10 to 20 the most probable reason for an anime to seem boring might be that you couldn't understand it properly coz (speaking from experience) some anime at the beginning seem dome coz they hide important plot point in plain sight that can only be spotted of you've watched the entire show already or are really smart. Happens to me a lot. An example of hiding plot points in plain sight would be emenence in shadow. A show that seem like isn't very plot heavy and is just comady but it also hides some amazing things in the backgrounds. Like how it hid a certain someone joining their organization(which would happen in the last episode) in the very first episode. I hear ya with The Boy and the Heron. I can't fully comprehend every element in it, so if someone asked me for a straightforward opinion, it would be unfair to speak in either a positive or negative light about it since I'm unsure of exactly what it was trying to convey besides being a medley of references from all of Miyazaki's previous works. |
Aug 30, 2024 7:56 AM
#27
SorryNT said: Regardless of being a anime fan everyone knows dragon ball or the character Goku being from the hood you can be the toughest guy but still a dragon ball fan… does anyone think a anime could be more popular tbh I don’t aot is there one piece is definitely up there but I think reached it’s point of stardom don't know what you are talking about. this show is literally ranked 113 in popularity here. |
Aug 30, 2024 9:08 AM
#28
in terms of sheer global recognizability and belovedness, i don't think there ever will be |
Aug 30, 2024 9:51 AM
#29
AMAN2410 said: SorryNT said: Regardless of being a anime fan everyone knows dragon ball or the character Goku being from the hood you can be the toughest guy but still a dragon ball fan… does anyone think a anime could be more popular tbh I don’t aot is there one piece is definitely up there but I think reached it’s point of stardom don't know what you are talking about. this show is literally ranked 113 in popularity here. Mal doesn’t mean everything popularity outside of mal dragon ball is untouchable everyone knows “Goku” or “Super Saiyan” go up to a random let’s say in the hood or country they not gonna know who erin is or kirito they gonna know Goku or at least super saiyan |
Aug 30, 2024 10:16 AM
#30
Merve2Love said: Already happened, my dude Im thinking Naruto....Im thinking One Piece....Im thinking Demon Slayer Or every Ghibli Film that is known even by my Grandmother xD That’s just not true though (besides possibly the Ghibli films but that’s it) The thing you’re not getting is that you live in the anime fandom bubble. Within the anime fandom Dragon ball is not the most popular Anime, but the thing is the majority of Dragon ball Z fans world wide are NOT anime fans. That’s where its popularity comes from, it transcended anime. Most of the fandom only watches dragon ball and no other anime, i know so so so many people that don’t like anime, don’t identify with the culture at all, yet they still love DBZ There will come a time when that DBZ fandom disappears, but it’s hard to imagine in the streaming age any anime having that same reach again with non anime fans |
Aug 30, 2024 10:21 AM
#31
I don’t think so, mainly because while it’s true that in the anime world it’s not the most popular anime, but most DBZ lovers world wide are not anime fans, they are DBZ fans and that’s it. It’s hard to imagine any anime in the streaming age will be able to have such a massive effect outside the anime community in the way DBZ has. The closest would be Ghibli films but for the most part I just don’t think it can happen again. The success of DBZ outside of the anime fandom is in large part due to TV and the limited selection of shows people had. At the time in the west most people still thought of cartoons as a kids thing, so when in those same cartoon channels DBZ came up it blew peoples minds. That paired with the fact of DBZ was on you couldn’t just flip to another anime, it would be the only one airing at that moment, it was something most viewers in the west had never seen before. Even with how popular Naruto was, by that time viewers had already seen Shōnen, with DBZ it was brand new. For some reason that’s as far as it went with most fans, there love of anime begins and ends with DBZ |
Aug 30, 2024 10:22 AM
#32
deg said: sure wait for new generations of fans to outnumber the old dying generation of fans That won’t mean it’s as popular as DBZ was at its peak though, only at that moment in time (when it comes) |
Aug 30, 2024 10:25 AM
#33
Reply to Karebu_Karebu
deg said:
sure wait for new generations of fans to outnumber the old dying generation of fans
sure wait for new generations of fans to outnumber the old dying generation of fans
That won’t mean it’s as popular as DBZ was at its peak though, only at that moment in time (when it comes)
@Karebu_Karebu actually im saying the popularity will decline when old dying generation of fans are gone |
Aug 30, 2024 10:46 AM
#34
Reply to Karebu_Karebu
I don’t think so, mainly because while it’s true that in the anime world it’s not the most popular anime, but most DBZ lovers world wide are not anime fans, they are DBZ fans and that’s it. It’s hard to imagine any anime in the streaming age will be able to have such a massive effect outside the anime community in the way DBZ has. The closest would be Ghibli films but for the most part I just don’t think it can happen again.
The success of DBZ outside of the anime fandom is in large part due to TV and the limited selection of shows people had. At the time in the west most people still thought of cartoons as a kids thing, so when in those same cartoon channels DBZ came up it blew peoples minds. That paired with the fact of DBZ was on you couldn’t just flip to another anime, it would be the only one airing at that moment, it was something most viewers in the west had never seen before.
Even with how popular Naruto was, by that time viewers had already seen Shōnen, with DBZ it was brand new. For some reason that’s as far as it went with most fans, there love of anime begins and ends with DBZ
The success of DBZ outside of the anime fandom is in large part due to TV and the limited selection of shows people had. At the time in the west most people still thought of cartoons as a kids thing, so when in those same cartoon channels DBZ came up it blew peoples minds. That paired with the fact of DBZ was on you couldn’t just flip to another anime, it would be the only one airing at that moment, it was something most viewers in the west had never seen before.
Even with how popular Naruto was, by that time viewers had already seen Shōnen, with DBZ it was brand new. For some reason that’s as far as it went with most fans, there love of anime begins and ends with DBZ
@Karebu_Karebu Dragon Ball came before DBZ and actually DBZ was never shown in my country and probaly in some other countries as well so logically it's Dragon Ball that is the most popular franchise and DBZ is simply following it And pokemon has a bigger effect even outside of anime community |
JoeChipAug 30, 2024 10:52 AM
Aug 30, 2024 10:46 AM
#35
yes. Pokemon. Pikachu is bigger than goku. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_media_franchises |
HACKs! 🤢🤮 |
Aug 30, 2024 10:55 AM
#36
JoeChip said: @Karebu_Karebu Dragon Ball came before DBZ and actually DBZ was never shown in my country and probaly in some other countries as well so logically it's Dragon Ball that is the most popular franchise and DBZ is simply following it And pokemon has a bigger effect even outside of anime community I know that, however if you actually read the manga you’d know it is one continues series. Dragon ball to dragon ball Z is one continues seriess, there is no “DBZ” manga. Just the adult portion of the DB manga. The DBZ separation is only an anime thing, but considering how deeply tied they are and the fact they are the exact same thing in the manga, using DB and DBZ interchangeably is perfectly logical in this discussion thread. On top of that, there is only one Dragon ball “Franchise”. The franchise includes all series within the Dragon ball universe, dragon ball and dragon ball Z are separate anime series but they are part of the same franchise. |
Aug 30, 2024 10:59 AM
#37
deg said: @Karebu_Karebu actually im saying the popularity will decline when old dying generation of fans are gone I know what you are saying, what I am saying is that you’ve misunderstood the question. The question is asking will there ever be an anime that is as popular as dragon ball was at its peak. It’s not asking if there will be a time more people watch another anime that dragon ball. The difference is this (I’m going to make up number for the sake of example) Dragon ball peak fans in 2005: 50 million Dragon ball fans in 2050: 50 thousand Future popular anime fans in 2050: 10 million While it will obviously be true there will be more fans at some contemporary time in the future, that doesn’t mean that fanbase will ever be more popular than dragon ball WAS in the past. The question is asking if there will be an anime that gain the same popularity that DBZ did |
Aug 30, 2024 11:01 AM
#38
deg said: @Karebu_Karebu actually im saying the popularity will decline when old dying generation of fans are gone Although that’s how I would interpret the question atleast, because otherwise the question would be redundant and meaningless. But with that being said you’re correct though! There will definitely be a time when there are more current fans of another franchise than DB |
Aug 30, 2024 11:02 AM
#39
Old_School_Akira said: yes. Pokemon. Pikachu is bigger than goku. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_media_franchises I think the difference is that Pokémon is popular in games more than anime, where as Dragon ball is much more anime focused. But for sure, Pokémon is more popular |
Aug 30, 2024 11:03 AM
#40
Reply to Karebu_Karebu
deg said:
@Karebu_Karebu actually im saying the popularity will decline when old dying generation of fans are gone
@Karebu_Karebu actually im saying the popularity will decline when old dying generation of fans are gone
I know what you are saying, what I am saying is that you’ve misunderstood the question. The question is asking will there ever be an anime that is as popular as dragon ball was at its peak. It’s not asking if there will be a time more people watch another anime that dragon ball.
The difference is this (I’m going to make up number for the sake of example)
Dragon ball peak fans in 2005: 50 million
Dragon ball fans in 2050: 50 thousand
Future popular anime fans in 2050: 10 million
While it will obviously be true there will be more fans at some contemporary time in the future, that doesn’t mean that fanbase will ever be more popular than dragon ball WAS in the past.
The question is asking if there will be an anime that gain the same popularity that DBZ did
@Karebu_Karebu the future is uncertain so i will give benefit of the doubt that it will be surpass in popularity by some new anime |
Aug 30, 2024 11:03 AM
#41
Reply to Karebu_Karebu
Old_School_Akira said:
yes. Pokemon.
Pikachu is bigger than goku.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_media_franchises
yes. Pokemon.
Pikachu is bigger than goku.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_media_franchises
I think the difference is that Pokémon is popular in games more than anime, where as Dragon ball is much more anime focused. But for sure, Pokémon is more popular
@Karebu_Karebu One piece then. It's passed DBZ in manga sales years ago. |
HACKs! 🤢🤮 |
Aug 30, 2024 2:41 PM
#42
Reply to Karebu_Karebu
Merve2Love said:
Already happened, my dude
Im thinking Naruto....Im thinking One Piece....Im thinking Demon Slayer
Or every Ghibli Film that is known even by my Grandmother xD
Already happened, my dude
Im thinking Naruto....Im thinking One Piece....Im thinking Demon Slayer
Or every Ghibli Film that is known even by my Grandmother xD
That’s just not true though (besides possibly the Ghibli films but that’s it)
The thing you’re not getting is that you live in the anime fandom bubble. Within the anime fandom Dragon ball is not the most popular Anime, but the thing is the majority of Dragon ball Z fans world wide are NOT anime fans. That’s where its popularity comes from, it transcended anime.
Most of the fandom only watches dragon ball and no other anime, i know so so so many people that don’t like anime, don’t identify with the culture at all, yet they still love DBZ
There will come a time when that DBZ fandom disappears, but it’s hard to imagine in the streaming age any anime having that same reach again with non anime fans
@Karebu_Karebu Nah I think that's just true, globally. Dragonball isn't/wasn't as big as, let's say, a Naruto or a One Piece. |
Aug 30, 2024 2:53 PM
#43
I don’t think people get that Dragon Ball came out in the 80s. And when people talk about popular anime they still talk bring up Dragon Ball. You have people who don’t even watch anime imitating Dragon Ball moves, you don’t see that with Naruto or OP. And with the new season about to come out directed at a new younger audience, it’s only going to keep the gravy train that is Dragon Ball chugging along. I can see the argument that Pokémon is as or more popular though |
Aug 30, 2024 3:33 PM
#44
That’s not that big of a deal considering OP has over double the volumes. More stuff to buy=more money |
Aug 30, 2024 4:17 PM
#45
Notshane said: Pendragon572 said: Notshane said: Pendragon572 said: Notshane said: Pendragon572 said: Notshane said: Pendragon572 said: SorryNT said: Regardless of being a anime fan everyone knows dragon ball or the character Goku being from the hood you can be the toughest guy but still a dragon ball fan… does anyone think a anime could be more popular tbh I don’t aot is there one piece is definitely up there but I think reached it’s point of stardom Am I the only one who instead of ranking anime sees them all as unique. Like how every star in the sky has its unique light: Some are bright, others dim but every one of them have their own place They all come together to made beautiful work of art. Wish I could say the same, but so many anime carry copy-paste narratives, themes, characters and concepts. Hell, even execution can feel one-to-one in a way that's a bit uncanny. Not to say people aren't allowed to enjoy those. But at this point, it takes a lot to push me to see an anime as unique. An occasional anime can find that tone that hasn't been seen before, but it takes a lot to get there. And that's also not to be an extremist and demand anime constantly change the framework nonstop. It has pretty much embraced the "advertise the manga" business module at this point, which is why so many have watered down ideas, end at abrupt points or occasionally make their own ending. Most recent from my experience of the last one being Kono Healer. If you want a good enough idea on this, think of the ranks. Took FMA:B over a decade to finally lose to another anime, Frieren. No bots, no nothing. Just naturally fell to second place. I'd imagine it will be another couple of decades until something beats Frieren. To tell you the truth, I don't think I've ever watched an anime that I I'd hated or would be happy if it not existed. Part of that might be because I just drop anime if it think it's boring but I do have a tendency to go back to those anime when I'm a little older and they turn out to be quite enjoyable. And about the Manga part I don't usually read Manga but where I've found a tree (with anime) I've found a forest (from the light novals) so it's a win win situation for me. If you're curious about some truly rough anime, try to take a look at ones I've given 3 and below, hahah. Your optimism has me curious now. Maybe you can shed some light on why those ones have redeemable merits to them and let me know what you think. Optimism. Is that what you assumed? It's actually the opposite. I'm so pessimistic that every Anime I watch just does better then I expect. And if it doesn't I just either ignore it or drop it. I'm too lazy to get angry. Meanwhile, I'm optimistic and every anime does worse than I expect, hahahah. It definitely shows in the numbers I've built up. For quite a long time too, I avoided dropping them. But eventually realized that was impossible as some started to become quite difficult to watch and it felt redundant wasting time on something I had already given up on a long time ago. I usually try to be willing to give the obligatory three episodes whenever possible, though. Especially Madoka Magica and that insane sequence with Mami. Can't forget the anime committing enough to its new tone to change the ED to better reflect the new atmosphere it threw you into. Let me tell you something if you're around age of 10 to 20 the most probable reason for an anime to seem boring might be that you couldn't understand it properly coz (speaking from experience) some anime at the beginning seem dome coz they hide important plot point in plain sight that can only be spotted of you've watched the entire show already or are really smart. Happens to me a lot. An example of hiding plot points in plain sight would be emenence in shadow. A show that seem like isn't very plot heavy and is just comady but it also hides some amazing things in the backgrounds. Like how it hid a certain someone joining their organization(which would happen in the last episode) in the very first episode. I hear ya with The Boy and the Heron. I can't fully comprehend every element in it, so if someone asked me for a straightforward opinion, it would be unfair to speak in either a positive or negative light about it since I'm unsure of exactly what it was trying to convey besides being a medley of references from all of Miyazaki's previous works. Just know that if you ever want to know what's going on just ask me and I'll tell you. |
Aug 30, 2024 4:34 PM
#46
Pendragon572 said: Notshane said: Pendragon572 said: Notshane said: Pendragon572 said: Notshane said: Pendragon572 said: Notshane said: Pendragon572 said: SorryNT said: Regardless of being a anime fan everyone knows dragon ball or the character Goku being from the hood you can be the toughest guy but still a dragon ball fan… does anyone think a anime could be more popular tbh I don’t aot is there one piece is definitely up there but I think reached it’s point of stardom Am I the only one who instead of ranking anime sees them all as unique. Like how every star in the sky has its unique light: Some are bright, others dim but every one of them have their own place They all come together to made beautiful work of art. Wish I could say the same, but so many anime carry copy-paste narratives, themes, characters and concepts. Hell, even execution can feel one-to-one in a way that's a bit uncanny. Not to say people aren't allowed to enjoy those. But at this point, it takes a lot to push me to see an anime as unique. An occasional anime can find that tone that hasn't been seen before, but it takes a lot to get there. And that's also not to be an extremist and demand anime constantly change the framework nonstop. It has pretty much embraced the "advertise the manga" business module at this point, which is why so many have watered down ideas, end at abrupt points or occasionally make their own ending. Most recent from my experience of the last one being Kono Healer. If you want a good enough idea on this, think of the ranks. Took FMA:B over a decade to finally lose to another anime, Frieren. No bots, no nothing. Just naturally fell to second place. I'd imagine it will be another couple of decades until something beats Frieren. To tell you the truth, I don't think I've ever watched an anime that I I'd hated or would be happy if it not existed. Part of that might be because I just drop anime if it think it's boring but I do have a tendency to go back to those anime when I'm a little older and they turn out to be quite enjoyable. And about the Manga part I don't usually read Manga but where I've found a tree (with anime) I've found a forest (from the light novals) so it's a win win situation for me. If you're curious about some truly rough anime, try to take a look at ones I've given 3 and below, hahah. Your optimism has me curious now. Maybe you can shed some light on why those ones have redeemable merits to them and let me know what you think. Optimism. Is that what you assumed? It's actually the opposite. I'm so pessimistic that every Anime I watch just does better then I expect. And if it doesn't I just either ignore it or drop it. I'm too lazy to get angry. Meanwhile, I'm optimistic and every anime does worse than I expect, hahahah. It definitely shows in the numbers I've built up. For quite a long time too, I avoided dropping them. But eventually realized that was impossible as some started to become quite difficult to watch and it felt redundant wasting time on something I had already given up on a long time ago. I usually try to be willing to give the obligatory three episodes whenever possible, though. Especially Madoka Magica and that insane sequence with Mami. Can't forget the anime committing enough to its new tone to change the ED to better reflect the new atmosphere it threw you into. Let me tell you something if you're around age of 10 to 20 the most probable reason for an anime to seem boring might be that you couldn't understand it properly coz (speaking from experience) some anime at the beginning seem dome coz they hide important plot point in plain sight that can only be spotted of you've watched the entire show already or are really smart. Happens to me a lot. An example of hiding plot points in plain sight would be emenence in shadow. A show that seem like isn't very plot heavy and is just comady but it also hides some amazing things in the backgrounds. Like how it hid a certain someone joining their organization(which would happen in the last episode) in the very first episode. I hear ya with The Boy and the Heron. I can't fully comprehend every element in it, so if someone asked me for a straightforward opinion, it would be unfair to speak in either a positive or negative light about it since I'm unsure of exactly what it was trying to convey besides being a medley of references from all of Miyazaki's previous works. Just know that if you ever want to know what's going on just ask me and I'll tell you. Sure. Will keep that in mind. |
Aug 30, 2024 5:49 PM
#47
Before anyone gets angry at me, I’m a super fan of both of these series but, I say One Piece is definitely the new Dragon Ball. The popularity it has achieved in these past few years is nearly on the same level as 90’s Dragon Ball. One Piece will keep growing and eventually be more recognised than Dragon Ball. It’s the best selling manga ever, popular anime, successful live action series and a remake coming soon by the creators of AoT seasons 1-3. I don’t see it slowing down any time soon |
Okami Yurei |
Aug 30, 2024 6:07 PM
#48
Reply to Old_School_Akira
@Karebu_Karebu
One piece then. It's passed DBZ in manga sales years ago.
One piece then. It's passed DBZ in manga sales years ago.
@Old_School_Akira Once again that doesn't mean anything. That only means one piece is more popular among manga (id also argue anime) fans. But the thing that makes DBZ so popular is that most of its fans are not fans of anime in general or manga in general, they ONLY like DB/DBZ. Like their love of anime begins and ends with DBZ. Thats why it's so popular globally, because it transcended the anime/manga fandoms. One piece is incredibly popular but only with genuine fans of anime and manga. |
Aug 30, 2024 6:09 PM
#49
Reply to AMAN2410
SorryNT said:
Regardless of being a anime fan everyone knows dragon ball or the character Goku being from the hood you can be the toughest guy but still a dragon ball fan… does anyone think a anime could be more popular tbh I don’t aot is there one piece is definitely up there but I think reached it’s point of stardom
Regardless of being a anime fan everyone knows dragon ball or the character Goku being from the hood you can be the toughest guy but still a dragon ball fan… does anyone think a anime could be more popular tbh I don’t aot is there one piece is definitely up there but I think reached it’s point of stardom
don't know what you are talking about. this show is literally ranked 113 in popularity here.
@AMAN2410 You totally missed the point. Dragon ball is incredibly popular OUTSIDE of the anime/manga fandom world. It's easily the most popular anime due to the fact the majority of its fans are not anime fans in general, there love of anime begins and ends with dragon ball, they don't self identify as anime fans most of the time either. It's incredibly popular with the general population in a way no other anime is (except for maybe some Ghibli films, but its a different part of the general populous) |
Aug 30, 2024 11:30 PM
#50
Must not be forgotten here that it's one thing to be famous and another thing to be popular. These two are not necessarily the same. Fame refers to the levels of awareness something has among people, but popularity is more specific and refers to the number of people that actually shows interest, enthusiasm or is devoted to something (i.e. number of fans). The Dragon Ball series is certainly up there (together with Pokemon) as the most famous anime title ever made, but I'm not so sure the most popular as of now. It may have been in the past, but to me it seems titles like One Piece and Attack on Titan are the ones to be found at the very top nowadays. |
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