Dungeon ni Deai wo Motomeru no wa Machigatteiru Darou ka IV: Fuka Shou - Yakusai-hen Episode 8 Discussion
Is It Wrong to Try to Pick Up Girls in a Dungeon? (light novel)
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| This is like Bell and Ryu trying to find some sort of cheat system at that Colosseum. The fact that there are monsters respawning like that makes it that much more harder. Ryu made a difficult this episode and imo, a very brave act. No wonder Bell reacted such way after all their time together. Ryu and Bell truly has grown close over the course of this show. |
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| This was intense. I already guessed Ryuu wanted to go for a self sacrifice her but it was also expected that Bell would not leave her behind, hopefully Ryuu learned a thing or two about him. But they are not out of the Colosseum yet and a lot of things car still happen. Hopefully they will be able to meet up with the others soon. |
| Goosebumps with that scene at the end. Awesome, just great job at adapting this part of the novel. Great everything! Luminous Wind looks as great as I wanted it to. The OST. Bell being heroic. And Saori Hayami just blows it out of the park with her interpretation of Ryuu. next episode. Astraea Familia |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| As an adventurer balancing one's ideals with what's reality is always a tricky balancing act. So the colosseum is essentially both a stage and a breeding ground for monsters huh. Of all places to end up in though. Sneaking past the sentries on the approach sure was tense. Their luck however had to run out eventually given the density of the monsters present. Destroying the bridge to save Bell even at the cost of her life really was just like Ryu. But that was what made Bell's explosive save of her that much more heartfelt. If anything Bell running away and letting others sacrifice themselves for him is something that goes against Bell's entire being. He would never be able to forgive himself if he did so. |
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| Well, Ryu definitely learnt her tricks of the trade from her Astrea Familia back when she was a rookie, and whatever her guild comrade Lyla taught her, it was definitely for moments like these. The Colosseum on the 37th Floor is an endless monster-spawning marathon, and not even guilds like Ais's Loki Familia are willing to touch it. But this is not the case for Ryu and Bell: they have to face it to get back to the normal route on their way out. It's things like the hide of the Skull Sheep and monster items that they'll have a chance to blend in and not attract attention, and if not for Ryu's succinct preparation, Bell would long be dead. But they would only foretell of their survival when they cross their way into the Colosseum, being very careful while staying calm amidst the collusions of the monsters. It's intense, for any wrong step, and they'll be in grave danger instantly. It's a spectacle to have this Colosseum nest right in the Dungeon as a test, and just when Bell and Ryu could play it safe, they're being found out, and all spawned monsters come running their way to draw a path out towards the bridge. The only ideal way is to clear the path between both ends, Bell and Ryu facing towards and away, with her Luminous Wind intentionally trapping herself to save Bell. But as much as Bell laments Ryu not joining him, this is the latter's way of atoning sacrifice for her Familia and herself. Bell, not one to leave anybody unaccounted for, comes back to rescue her in the most heroic fashion possible. That's why we love you Bell Cranel, the Heroic Juggernaut. |
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| Okay, so I want to clarify one thing. They tried to use Skull Sheep hide to sneak their way out, but that shouldn't be possible right? When monsters are killed, they disappear entirely, leaving only core behind, so how did they get the hide? Every Skull Sheep they have killed on screen didn't leave behind anything. Am I missing something here? |
Franck_Nicolas said: I always assumed drops are exclusive from bosses. We have never seen any instances of normal monsters drop any loot besides the crystals.begija said: good question, maybe they drop loot that we don t seeOkay, so I want to clarify one thing. They tried to use Skull Sheep hide to sneak their way out, but that shouldn't be possible right? When monsters are killed, they disappear entirely, leaving only core behind, so how did they get the hide? Every Skull Sheep they have killed on screen didn't leave behind anything. Am I missing something here? Ryu definitely learned stuff from Gandalf there. I find it funny that she sees Bell as an hero when she was the one sacrificing herself to save him |
| No way Bell was gonna leave Ryu and run away, he came back for her. That's just who he is, a hero. Ryu's characterisation in this arc has been great with this episode being the peak. |
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| Tensions were at an all time high in this episode. They did a great job of making the scene where Bell and Ryu were trying to sneak past all the monsters as eerie and creepy as possible. Things of course had to go south after everything felt like it was going too smoothly. Ryu sacrificing herself was expected given all the focus this season has had on her character, but Bell is way too stubborn to allow that to happen. Him jumping back into the action like that may not have been the most wise decision, but that (and the final Firebolt) sure as hell made the end of this episode much more exciting. |
| People on MAL refuse to actually enjoy watching anime. Your taste in anime isn't a personality trait. MAL is literally just anime Twitter as its own website lol. |
| The great dungeon opera lurches another few brilliant steps forward. Firebolta! Great stuff, man. Now to cue up some Wagner until next week. The only thing painful about enjoying this epic is having to wait a week for the next episode. Well, we have what, a little over an hour remaining? We have the peak of the hero arc. It's all downhill from hereon out. Heh. |
| Twas one of the most intense shits I've watched in awhile. I gotta tip my hat off to belle, our gal Ryu shant die. |
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| Pure goosebumps. Bless J.C staff for this adaptation. “What do we call those that make their ideals reality” “heroes of course” Bell has been pushed to the absolute limit here and still he’s committed to making his ideal outcome, one where he and ryuu survive a reality. It won’t be given. But he’ll take it. Top 5 mc. |
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| bell is making a miracle again this was an intense episode I couldn't even take a bathroom break |
| they got enough time to escape now right? and yep heroes are idealistic rather than realistic |
| i guess you can call the colosseum the death zone |
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begija said: Both of Bell's secondary daggers were made of drops from normal monsters, the minotaur horn in season 1 and the unicorn horn laterI always assumed drops are exclusive from bosses. We have never seen any instances of normal monsters drop any loot besides the crystals. |
| The "hero" appears in time!!! kekeke |
| I just realized this whole season is only about the elf and her backstory while Bell and her try to escape. It' also about overcoming being pathetic and hopeless every episode. Dead horse is still being beaten. yawn |
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| But now the question is, will they be able to escape? Though the tension this episode definitely ain't good for health. |
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| Another flashback with Ryu talking to Lyla was pretty nice and enjoyable. Lyla's reactions were cute, but I do like the solid advice she gave to the younger Ryu, which did help her quite a bit during the present, with her and Bell's tough task of safely getting through the Colosseum. The disguise that they went in masking their scent from the monsters worked really well for a while, but sadly it wasn't going to last forever. The skeleton monster had a bone to pick with them (Not sorry for the crap pun! XD) and all hell went loose, as Bell and Ryu did their best to drive away the huge hoard of monsters going after them. Ryu then had Bell go ahead before using her powers to push him to the other side of the bridge before blowing it up, still with the mindset that she was making a needed sacrifice and while she did hold her own against the monsters, she started to tire out. As expected, Bell went the long way around and came back to save her, unleashing the items he had along with a well-timed firebolt to unleash a satisfying looking explosion at the endless mob of enemies. Seems like Alise's words would be correct after all, huh? The pair aren't out of danger, but hopefully this will get Ryu's mind to reconsider and agree to escape will Bell alive. A satisfying episode overall, I say. =) |
Siegfried10 said: Yeah, I can see why would animators want to do that (less work to do), but I guess that created a problem now :Dbegija said: Okay, so I want to clarify one thing. They tried to use Skull Sheep hide to sneak their way out, but that shouldn't be possible right? When monsters are killed, they disappear entirely, leaving only core behind, so how did they get the hide? Every Skull Sheep they have killed on screen didn't leave behind anything. Am I missing something here? Yeah... This is actually a problem of the anime adaptation. In the LN when monsters die they don't just disappear, the corpses remain. This is actually one of the jobs of the supporters, having to loot the corpses to get the magic stones. |
ANTI-SPlRAL said: First thing that came to my mind is an awesome grind spot for exp. loli guess you can call the colosseum the death zone Bell could especially abuse it too. |
| Peak hype and tension this season |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| The coliseum was intense holy. That episode felt so short for some reason, but it was so damn good. Using the skull sheep hide and a barbarians heart scent they make it past the initial bridge with monsters and make it to the coliseum where never ending monsters spawn. In where they fight for eternity until an intruder appears. One skeleton later and it messes with their whole plan and now every monster is after them. Ryuu makes a hard decision, sacrificing herself to make sure Bell escapes. But we should all know the anime by now. Bell is not going to leave a girl in a dungeon, he is going to pick them all up. Bell ran all the way around to another path and saves Ryuu fire balling the entire coliseum. My most anticipated anime of the season is delivering and I'm loving every second of it. Seeya next week!! |
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| The tension in this episode is too much, I always knew masking your scent doesn't gonna end well. So is the Colosseum is an actual test for what? I wonder IF its possible to end the unlimited spawn lol. What an Heroic act from Bell, as always. Goosebumps! Ryu should trust more Bell this time, right? Can't wait for next episode. |
Why do we have to live in such a cruel world?  |
| Bell would never leave Ryuu behind, she should already know it... I ship them hard from the beginning of the series XD this season is really amazing. |
| I watched two times that episode, I kinda hate how they end every episode. I wish I was waiting until every episode come out before I started to watch. Any way I probably will watch the whole season again when is finished. |
| The dungeon pretty much having an endless horde mode is pretty cool and funny when you think about it, if only there was a mystery box with the ray gun lol. I also appreciate this entire episode being dedicated to Bell and Ryu, it really helped with the flow, and the intenseness was cranked up the entire time before and after they got found out. Then came Ryu’s sacrifice moment, I’ve heard it makes more sense in the LN but here it seemed kinda silly that she’d stay behind when it appeared that they had the upper hand, but you can argue that Ryu was actually looking for a good place to die and be with the Astraea Familia which makes sense, but she didn’t plan for Bell to do the impossible lol, I absolutely saw it coming but it was still a great moment, once you enter Bell’s harem there’s no escape, and I stole that from a comment I saw lol. |
| Mini-hero-strike but it was still cool the moment Bell arrived just to save Ryu. YEAH!!! Looks like Bell is getting better and better at killing the monsters there... P.S. Probably the perfect chance to level up Bell using his passive skill. >.< |
CrazyButNot4UFeb 23, 2023 5:41 PM
| It's not that I dislike this genre but... to add unnecessary fan services to/in/for heroines and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it, is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service. |
| Man this season has just been really boring |
| Every single episode is fcking awesome 😎😎 |
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