| I, too, was once a teenager, and I understand perfectly why so many teenagers are insecure and afraid of the negative reaction of people. But I'm a bit surprised how much the exploitation of this mentality has become widespread in the media in recent years. Ranging from just shows with anxious characters like HitoriBocchi and Komi-san, to shows like G-Witch that deliberately reward MCs with social anxiety to make her popular as part of a big appeal to younger audiences. Finally, this year Bocchi the rock is becoming a huge hit among teenagers due to the heroine's social anxiety, even though the original manga had a noticeably older target audience. Why do you think this topic is gradually becoming more and more popular? Up to 3-4 similar shows in 2022 alone. Has it become a trend? Today's teenagers are increasingly insecure? Mod edit: Changed title. |
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| No, it has always existed for decades but was less prominent as it is now. |
| it's more of a fetish, just like I love broken sad depressed girls, they love shy girls like komi and bocchi they're in great numbers though so that's why |
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| I think this started because media wanted to portray socially anxious characters as “heroes” in order to make people with these qualities feel more secure and confident with themselves. Also to give more representation in pop culture for folks who are considered “outcasts” since, for a long time, main characters have always been either conventionally very attractive or popular. However due to this increase in these kinds of characters, it does lead to more people being obsessed with them. It’s very ironic because most of these kinds of characters would be heavily bullied in real life, but now it’s apparently considered cool to be shy and lonely. Definitely a confusing and strange situation when you have people who have tortured and bullied many anxious people in their lives, who now suddenly idolize these kinds of characters in anime and western media. The character Wednesday Addams is a current example in non animated television— a character like this is seen as cool and charming to lots of people, but let’s be real, there are so many “Wednesdays” out there who are being picked on. I find it troubling. This also reminds me of the whole freckles beauty trend— lots of people with freckles experienced bullying as teenagers for their appearance, but later found these same bullies started to create fake freckles on their faces for a trendy look. |
| yes just like depression. being sad, anxious and lonely is the new drip for teens these days. they think it's cool. or perhaps it just happens that everyone just happens to suffer from these issues these days. |
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Ammey said: [font="\"Segoe UI\", \"San Francisco\", Ubuntu, \"Fira Sans\", Roboto, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]I don't think this is anything new. Geek culture is literally built on people who feel like black sheep and this has been the main focus of the youth image since the late 80s. For example, it was this phenomenon that made Daria a cult character in the 90s, and it was because of its subsequent abuse that the word edgy became a mockery. If you're over 25 old, Wednesday will look like "I'm not like everyone else" bingo to the point of parody for you. I'm more concerned that it's suddenly become extremely trendy again these days. It's as if some media boss's idea of youth is stuck somewhere in the late 90s.[/font]I think this started because media wanted to portray socially anxious characters as “heroes” in order to make people with these qualities feel more secure and confident with themselves. Also to give more representation in pop culture for folks who are considered “outcasts” since, for a long time, main characters have always been either conventionally very attractive or popular. However due to this increase in these kinds of characters, it does lead to more people being obsessed with them. It’s very ironic because most of these kinds of characters would be heavily bullied in real life, but now it’s apparently considered cool to be shy and lonely. Definitely a confusing and strange situation when you have people who have tortured and bullied many anxious people in their lives, who now suddenly idolize these kinds of characters in anime and western media. The character Wednesday Addams is a current example in non animated television— a character like this is seen as cool and charming to lots of people, but let’s be real, there are so many “Wednesdays” out there who are being picked on. I find it troubling. This also reminds me of the whole freckles beauty trend— lots of people with freckles experienced bullying as teenagers for their appearance, but later found these same bullies started to create fake freckles on their faces for a trendy look. |
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| By what percentage or times has the presence of such characters and or shows increased, roughly or very roughly? Haven't really paid much attention to these trends, if any. |
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| I'm pretty sure it was always there but I do agree that acting socially anxious has probably somewhat become kind of a trend to do nowadays even if they don't have it, seeing how much its romanticized, if that's what you mean |
| No. It's not new, it's at least a decades old. Just like how it's trending to be depressed. |
Saiorno said: This is what I don't understand. Is it really so common that using it in a story has become such an easy bait for teenagers?I'm pretty sure it was always there but I do agree that acting socially anxious has probably somewhat become kind of a trend to do nowadays even if they don't have it, seeing how much its romanticized, if that's what you mean [font="\"Segoe UI\", \"San Francisco\", Ubuntu, \"Fira Sans\", Roboto, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]JaniSIr[/font][font="\"Segoe UI\", \"San Francisco\", Ubuntu, \"Fira Sans\", Roboto, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]No. It's not new, it's at least a decades old. [font="\"Segoe UI\", \"San Francisco\", Ubuntu, \"Fira Sans\", Roboto, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"]You don't have to make much effort to see kids pretending to be depressed. But I've never seen kids pretend to be socially anxious.[/font]Just like how it's trending to be depressed. [/font] |
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thehornedrat said: Anxious - overcoming obstacles trope is easy to build up the character and raise stakes, nothing much to lose when you start to build up from the bottom.....look how head over heels everyone has fallen in love with Bocchi...perhaps another way to put it its kinda lazy writing.....The manga is rather meh Lol.....Contrast with other music anime with unlikable character like Chu2 in Bang Season 2 & 3, its harder to write to redeem an antagonist with personality disorder / such assholey traits like that, but the Bushi writers pulled it off. From what I hear from fans of this anime, Bocchi was actually the first show with a socially anxious character that they had seen in their lives. If not the first anime ever. Some even literally tried to claim that this is the first such show. |
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| In this current age of technology, we as people are more divided than ever in what entertainment we consume. Besides that, constant use of technology can contribute to further increase in social anxiety. I doubt anyone wants to be taken as a outspoken lolcow. |
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| It's not a "youth thing" it has merely become more socially acceptable to openly talk about such things. Characters with social anxiety weren't really depicted as the heroes of stories a while back due to the social stigma associated with having such psychological conditions, most people in the older generations struggle to speak up about mental health even today. These newer shows certainly aren't the progenitors of anime about social anxiety, however it is understandable that new viewers might identify with the characters in new anime like Bocchi The Rock!, there is absolutely nothing wrong with being a casual anime fan. |
Kumiveneella said: It's not a "youth thing" it has merely become more socially acceptable to openly talk about such things. Characters with social anxiety weren't really depicted as the heroes of stories a while back due to the social stigma associated with having such psychological conditions, most people in the older generations struggle to speak up about mental health even today. These newer shows certainly aren't the progenitors of anime about social anxiety, however it is understandable that new viewers might identify with the characters in new anime like Bocchi The Rock!, there is absolutely nothing wrong with being a casual anime fan. It's as if you took this monologue from a discussion of some queer show and simply changed gays and LGBT people to social anxiety in the text. Attempts to justify the abuse of some archetype by portraying it as an important representation (while ignoring that social anxiety protagonists are nothing new), and to start ranting about how young fans "can identify" with Bocchi the Rock, at the same time time rudely ignoring the reasons for mentioning this show. It's like we're actually talking about a yuri or BL show, in a thread where someone complains about the excessive number of gay characters. |
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| Who would know if they are all too socially anxious to talk about these things. |
RobertBobert said: I wonder who ever said it was anything new, I wonder what the appeal of ad hominem is? "progenitor" is an English word, surely you could understand what I said. Surely you can twist my words based on some sort of perception of myself as much as you want though.Kumiveneella said: It's not a "youth thing" it has merely become more socially acceptable to openly talk about such things. Characters with social anxiety weren't really depicted as the heroes of stories a while back due to the social stigma associated with having such psychological conditions, most people in the older generations struggle to speak up about mental health even today. These newer shows certainly aren't the progenitors of anime about social anxiety, however it is understandable that new viewers might identify with the characters in new anime like Bocchi The Rock!, there is absolutely nothing wrong with being a casual anime fan. It's as if you took this monologue from a discussion of some queer show and simply changed gays and LGBT people to social anxiety in the text. Attempts to justify the abuse of some archetype by portraying it as an important representation (while ignoring that social anxiety protagonists are nothing new), and to start ranting about how young fans "can identify" with Bocchi the Rock, at the same time time rudely ignoring the reasons for mentioning this show. It's like we're actually talking about a yuri or BL show, in a thread where someone complains about the excessive number of gay characters. |
Jellybeanx said: I believe that Gen Z are simply more conscious of and willing to address issues like social anxiety, depression, and mental health. The majority of millennials were taught to simply ''suck it up'' and repress their own emotions. Because of this, Gen Z has received a lot of criticism for being overly sensitive or being a bunch of whiners, but in reality, they are just more aware of mental health issues generally and don't put up with people's nonsense. Solve problems? Seriously? I doubt that the abuse of "autism spectrum disorder" and "social anxiety" as labels will do much to solve the problem. On the contrary, it will only make it more difficult, as social media is now littered with kids who self-describe psychiatric diagnoses in the hope that it will make them special. For literally 3-4 years now, YouTube has been creating collections of tiktok videos, where children try to simulate mental tics and mental attacks in the most cringe way in order to convince others that they are mentally ill. Awareness, haha. And yes, you are literally mirroring the complaints of millennials, since they were the ones who were called the generation of sensitive snowflakes and it was they who began to abuse psychiatric terms without understanding them. For example, in our time, people who say that they have depression have become associated with attention-seeking edgy children. With the same logic, you can try to justify the abuse of gay characters in Western media by saying that zoomers are simply "more aware of the existence of gays". Lol this is such arrogant nonsense. |
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Kumiveneella said: You can call it a distortion as much as you like, I'm just pointing out how similar excuses and attempts to shift emphasis while ignoring the original context of the thread are the same to the point of pain in the eyes.RobertBobert said: I wonder who ever said it was anything new, I wonder what the appeal of ad hominem is? "progenitor" is an English word, surely you could understand what I said. Surely you can twist my words based on some sort of perception of myself as much as you want though.It's as if you took this monologue from a discussion of some queer show and simply changed gays and LGBT people to social anxiety in the text. Attempts to justify the abuse of some archetype by portraying it as an important representation (while ignoring that social anxiety protagonists are nothing new), and to start ranting about how young fans "can identify" with Bocchi the Rock, at the same time time rudely ignoring the reasons for mentioning this show. It's like we're actually talking about a yuri or BL show, in a thread where someone complains about the excessive number of gay characters. |
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RobertBobert said: I wonder why you are ever so adverse to different opinions than your own, psychological conditions such as depression and social anxiety are normal things that affect some people, much like having diabetes or any other physical condition. What might the ever so hallowed original context be trying to say except something akin to the lines of; "you can't seemingly market stuff towards younger audiences", you saw the show as well didn't you, it didn't really stop you.Kumiveneella said: You can call it a distortion as much as you like, I'm just pointing out how similar excuses and attempts to shift emphasis while ignoring the original context of the thread are the same to the point of pain in the eyes.I wonder who ever said it was anything new, I wonder what the appeal of ad hominem is? "progenitor" is an English word, surely you could understand what I said. Surely you can twist my words based on some sort of perception of myself as much as you want though. |
| wot. its always been a thing. kinda weird to call social anxiety a trend because u just happen to watch anime that has that as its focus. the reason why it "seems" to become widespread is simply because of whatever media that has that as its topic just happen to be good, as the case of bocchi the rock. thatd be like saying cars becoming trendy become some really good anime had cars in em |
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misaka-9982 said: wot. its always been a thing. kinda weird to call social anxiety a trend because u just happen to watch anime that has that as its focus. the reason why it "seems" to become widespread is simply because of whatever media that has that as its topic just happen to be good, as the case of bocchi the rock. thatd be like saying cars becoming trendy become some really good anime had cars in em I love people who first create a scarecrow, and then refute it. Okay, name at least 3-4 shows with a similar archetype of characters in the foreground in the past. For example, 5 years ago. I'm not even going to ridicule the "it's not common, it's just the shows are good" logic, which is basically literally "this soup is not hot, it's runny". Just name 3-4 similar shows 5 years ago. |
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El001 said: I'm aware of how commerce works, thanks. And I know how social anxiety works, thanks too. I didn't say anything about being offended, my only question was why it became so trendy that even anime studios took notice. Seriously, I have a feeling that very few people in the comments here actually try to read the main post before leaving a comment.Is it that hard to believe? Social media has created a world wherein people see everyone else having a better, more interesting life than they do. Everyone grasps the reality at some point, but most teenagers haven't yet. Insecurities spring up. Couple that with the anxieties of the future which almost everyone shares, & you're fucked. It's pretty reasonable for the anime industry to capitalize on this by creating relatable characters in that regard--which translates to more popularity, & therefore more money. These shows obviously aren't targeted towards an audience of emotionally mature adults. So, what about any of this do you find particularly offensive? |
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| without even considering its usage in anime, it is hip to show off your depression/anxiety/whatever mental illness nowadays, so no surprise when people latch onto that |
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MalchikRepaid said: Of the shows I mentioned, only Suletta was created with the direct intent of pandering. Bocchi is only popular with teenagers in the US, but in Japan it is an adult-oriented show. Komi-san took a long time to get an adaptation and generally portrays a similar character as a love interest.Think of it this way. A lot of anime series revolve around Japan and the MCs are often teens. Current Japanese teens are very depressed with their bleak futures. _FRB_ said: Well, as a child of the 90s, I can understand why people pretended to be depressed. But it's hard for me to understand why so many kids these days think that being socially anxious, having an autism spectrum disorder, or even having tics is so cool and makes you special. I asked people with real problems about this and they were often furious that someone would romanticize something that literally gets in the way of their lives.without even considering its usage in anime, it is hip to show off your depression/anxiety/whatever mental illness nowadays, so no surprise when people latch onto that |
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| I mean, we have just gone through a pandemic where a considerable amount of people, especially teenagers who stopped going to school and feared for their loved ones at home, stayed home for the better part of two, three years. I don't think this exploitation of social anxiety is anything new, especially in anime -- I mean, Watamote is from 2013, and it's Japan we are talking about, so social anxiety is very far from being a "new" trend to them -- but it's not really surprising that people are latching to it so much as well in the West after what we passed through. |
Satyr_iconDec 31, 2022 9:42 AM
| As someone who's adolescence closely resembled that of Hachiman and Tomoko, I kinda resent this new breed of socially anxious loser type characters, Bocchi and Komi. Because they're not losers. They have a massive support system. Literally everyone loves them. Especially Komi, she's the damn school idol and the most beautiful girl in the world lmao. For me, those feelings of "social anxiety" were learned from repeated embarrassing fails and not something I was born with. Thats why I was so disappointed by Bocchi the Rock, due to the massive hype around it I expected her school life to be a cruel and harsh experience. The thought of a cute anime girl with pink hair being bullied sounded like a good drama but that's not what Bocchi is about. (cute anime girls experiencing trauma and feeling sad is usually very effective on me) But this isn't really all that new. Mio from K-On and Tomoyo from Clannad both are the same type of character and each always wins best girl polls. (Both of them are my least favorite.) Little miss perfect, everyone idolizes you, so what reason do you have to be so anxious all the time? What the hell is going on in the heads of people who strongly identify with these unbelievable characters? |
epidemia78Dec 31, 2022 9:47 AM
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RobertBobert said: I, too, was once a teenager, and I understand perfectly why so many teenagers are insecure and afraid of the negative reaction of people. But I'm a bit surprised how much the exploitation of this mentality has become widespread in the media in recent years. Ranging from just shows with anxious characters like HitoriBocchi and Komi-san, to shows like G-Witch that deliberately reward MCs with social anxiety to make her popular as part of a big appeal to younger audiences. Finally, this year Bocchi the rock is becoming a huge hit among teenagers due to the heroine's social anxiety, even though the original manga had a noticeably older target audience. Why do you think this topic is gradually becoming more and more popular? Up to 3-4 similar shows in 2022 alone. Has it become a trend? Today's teenagers are increasingly insecure? Its part of the western zeitgeist to introduce such characters. Allow I would exclude Boochi from this as ive got much love for Boochi and its a good show and im talking about Hitori Bocchi, and if you search google for Bocchi all you get is that new show I wont bother watching, but original Boochi and her social anxiety although different from mine is well understood. For myself, Wonder Egg priority is a stand out show on addressing internalised depression. I think promoting characters with deep mental issues as heros and protagonists is okay if they have a good story behind it. Its the story telling I want. If I needed rubbish story tropes in my life I would go watch American tv shows like The Witcher: Blood Origin or the Rings of Power. Which are incapable of character development. I dont think the topic is becoming more popular, its self inserting itself into eastern culture via outside influence, and my opinion denigrating eastern story telling so they more align with western zeitgeist ideology. Which if anything is the parasite inside because right now manga rules over everything in book sales. Because its unique, how better to destroy it than to bring it into uniformity to western ideologues. |
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epidemia78 said: Well, in the case of Komi, we are talking about the irony of the situation, because her shyness is mistakenly perceived by others as a mysterious coldness. But I agree about Bocchi and Suletta. In these shows, social anxiety is just a plot element or selling tool, while the plot easily makes them Mary Sue. As well as in a certain perspective from Tomoko already mentioned above.As someone who's adolescence closely resembled that of Hachiman and Tomoko, I kinda resent this new breed of socially anxious loser type characters, Bocchi and Komi. Because they're not losers. They have a massive support system. Literally everyone loves them. Especially Komi, she's the damn school idol and the most beautiful girl in the world lmao. For me, those feelings of "social anxiety" were learned from repeated embarrassing fails and not something I was born with. Thats why I was so disappointed by Bocchi the Rock, due to the massive hype around it I expected her school life to be a cruel and harsh experience. The thought of a cute anime girl with pink hair being bullied sounded like a good drama but that's not what Bocchi is about. (cute anime girls experiencing trauma and feeling sad is usually very effective on me) But this isn't really all that new. Mio from K-On and Tomoyo from Clannad both are the same type of character and each always wins best girl polls. (Both of them are my least favorite.) Little miss perfect, everyone idolizes you, so what reason do you have to be so anxious all the time? What the hell is going on in the heads of people who strongly identify with these unbelievable characters? Satyr_icon said: I mean, we have just gone through a pandemic where a considerable amount of people, especially teenagers who stopped going to school and feared for their loved ones at home, stayed home for the better part of two, three years. I don't think this exploitation of social anxiety is anything new, especially in anime -- I mean, Watamote is from 2013, and it's Japan we are talking about, so social anxiety is very far from being a "new" trend to them -- but it's not really surprising that people are latching to it so much as well in the West after what we passed through. Tomoko was a very interesting satire and critique of the idealization of such characters. Well, until they themselves fall victim to it and turn Tomoko into a Mary Sue that a bunch of her friends are interested in. When the writers tried to ridicule this themselves by depicting how their class reacted to the male version of Tomoko, it no longer looked like bitter irony, but an attempt to clumsily avoid criticism. |
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RobertBobert said: I suppose you were looking at the wrong place.You don't have to make much effort to see kids pretending to be depressed. But I've never seen kids pretend to be socially anxious. It was also trending to shout off the top off your virtual lung that you are an introvert rather ironically. Kumiveneella said: It's not simply acceptable to talk about such things, it's trending, and thus clout chasing induces these issues on otherwise normal people. It's not a "youth thing" it has merely become more socially acceptable to openly talk about such things. Characters with social anxiety weren't really depicted as the heroes of stories a while back due to the social stigma associated with having such psychological conditions, most people in the older generations struggle to speak up about mental health even today. These newer shows certainly aren't the progenitors of anime about social anxiety, however it is understandable that new viewers might identify with the characters in new anime like Bocchi The Rock!, there is absolutely nothing wrong with being a casual anime fan. |
JaniSIr said: I heard about introverts. Are you talking about the period when it was fashionable to write about how you ignore your friends' parties to sit in an intimate setting with a laptop at home? At that time in Russia, such people were called vanilla because of the meme that only pretentious people use vanilla cigarettes and vanilla coffee.RobertBobert said: I suppose you were looking at the wrong place.You don't have to make much effort to see kids pretending to be depressed. But I've never seen kids pretend to be socially anxious. It was also trending to shout off the top off your virtual lung that you are an introvert rather ironically. Kumiveneella said: It's not simply acceptable to talk about such things, it's trending, and thus clout chasing induces these issues on otherwise normal people. It's not a "youth thing" it has merely become more socially acceptable to openly talk about such things. Characters with social anxiety weren't really depicted as the heroes of stories a while back due to the social stigma associated with having such psychological conditions, most people in the older generations struggle to speak up about mental health even today. These newer shows certainly aren't the progenitors of anime about social anxiety, however it is understandable that new viewers might identify with the characters in new anime like Bocchi The Rock!, there is absolutely nothing wrong with being a casual anime fan. |
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RobertBobert said: Something like that. I don't know Russian meme culture, so can't comment on that. JaniSIr said: I heard about introverts. Are you talking about the period when it was fashionable to write about how you ignore your friends' parties to sit in an intimate setting with a laptop at home? At that time in Russia, such people were called vanilla because of the meme that only pretentious people use vanilla cigarettes and vanilla coffee.I suppose you were looking at the wrong place. It was also trending to shout off the top off your virtual lung that you are an introvert rather ironically. It's not simply acceptable to talk about such things, it's trending, and thus clout chasing induces these issues on otherwise normal people. |
| So 3-4 shows with a similar theme in one year indicates a growing trend now? If you want to argue that that these type of characters are more popular or that it's more common for younger people to treat social anxiety as some new trendy thing or whatever, fair enough I guess. I don't pay attention to this type of thing. But I don't think this alone proves it's becoming a more wide spread thing in anime. If this was showing up in a higher quantity than just a handful of shows in one year, I might see where this is coming from, but as is, not really. If you're talking about all media as a whole, that might be a different story. But whatever, I'm sure I misunderstood your point or something, and you'll be more than happy to correct me. |
I heard about introverts. Are you talking about the period when it was fashionable to write about how you ignore your friends' parties to sit in an intimate setting with a laptop at home? At that time in Russia, such people were called vanilla because of the meme that only pretentious people use vanilla cigarettes and vanilla coffee. Something like that. I don't know Russian meme culture, so can't comment on that. Well, at one time in Russia "intellectuals" girls became popular, who accused society of burning life and the absence of intellectual interests. At the same time, if you were intimate with any of them, you would find that they were nothing more than rude and dumb pretentious girls who tried to look like intelligent introverts by simply feigning the clichés associated with introverts. This has become the butt of constant jokes. FanofAction said: 3-4 shows a year dedicated to one archetype is already a lot. 2-3 yuri shows per year is already considered a marked increase in the yuri trend, so why is the situation worse here?So 3-4 shows with a similar theme in one year indicates a growing trend now? If you want to argue that that these type of characters are more popular or that it's more common for younger people to treat social anxiety as some new trendy thing or whatever, fair enough I guess. I don't pay attention to this type of thing. But I don't think this alone proves it's becoming a more wide spread thing in anime. If this was showing up in a higher quantity than just a handful of shows in one year, I might see where this is coming from, but as is, not really. If you're talking about all media as a whole, that might be a different story. But whatever, I'm sure I misunderstood your point or something, and you'll be more than happy to correct me. Mod edit: removed quotes. |
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| I think it has more to do with social anxiety being more discussed nowadays compared to the previous decades where it has very little awareness, the same thing is happening with depression, and I see this as a good thing for the most part because mental health is a subject that definitely needs to be taken more seriously. |
| Who are you and why do you show your hostility towards a complete stranger whom you've not once spoken with before. Are you seriously asking to get blocked? Well, if that's what your intent is; to tempt me into throwing hands with someone as lowly and insignificant as you, then i may grant your wish provided you articulate yourself a bit better when trying to spite a person of my wavelength. |
-Ryu said: Focusing on depression only made things worse. Because on the one hand, depression became overdiagnosed and this led to an epidemic of antidepressants (ever heard the term "Prozac Nation"?), and on the other hand, depression finally turned into a beautiful label for those who were just in a bad mood. You can also compare this to the rise in awareness of autism, which eventually ended up with people promoting autism as the "original way of thinking" while the term autist became one of the most popular ways to insult people's mental abilities on the internet. There's nothing wrong with public discussion per se, but it should be done by educated people with a certain scientific background, not random people who see a show with socially awkward characters and decide that social anxiety is something cool.I think it has more to do with social anxiety being more discussed nowadays compared to the previous decades where it has very little awareness, the same thing is happening with depression, and I see this as a good thing for the most part because mental health is a subject that definitely needs to be taken more seriously. |
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RobertBobert said: I don't think G-witch has ever rewarded the MC for her anxiety, did you even watch it?to shows like G-Witch that deliberately reward MCs with social anxiety to make her popular as part of a big appeal to younger audiences. |
vvvvjuuu said: If you don't agree with me, then you haven't watched this show! - even if we forget that it was obviously added as a pandering to teenagers, her VA literally discusses it in interviews and says that many teenagers will find it relatable. I posted translations of several interviews with the creators on the show in the G-Witch discussion, you would know that if you really cared.RobertBobert said: I don't think G-witch has ever rewarded the MC for her anxiety, did you even watch it?to shows like G-Witch that deliberately reward MCs with social anxiety to make her popular as part of a big appeal to younger audiences. |
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RobertBobert said: Oh, never mind. Definitely not interested in this discussion.even if we forget that it was obviously added as a pandering to teenagers, her VA literally discusses it in interviews and says that many teenagers will find it retable |
| @ RobertBobert I tend to look at this in terms of how much of a specific medium comes out each year. New anime comes out in a higher quantity than western shows, movies, video games, etc each year. With games specifically, if a few games with similar mechanics come out in a relatively short time frame for the medium and you can easily pinpoint the cause of it, I would say they're clearly chasing a trend. With anime, so many are produced each year that it's not unusual for something like this to happen. That's why I don't consider this really a trend. If these type of characters showed up more frequently, I would agree that this probably isn't a coincidence. I'm not saying there isn't an increase, just that I don't think it's significant enough. |
FanofActionDec 31, 2022 12:20 PM
FanofAction said: Everything is relative. Compared to how the archetype has been presented before, compared to how much focus is being taken away from it, and compared to how people are reacting to it, it's definitely a trend. I could understand if such characters were so popular that anime with them came out formally for show as school rom-coms about tsundere or CGDCT adaptations of Manga Time Kirara, but this is not so.@ RobertBobert I tend to look at this in terms of how much of a specific medium comes out each year. New anime comes out in a higher quantity than western shows, movies, video games, etc each year. With games specially, if a few games with similar mechanics come out in a relatively short time frame for the medium and you can easily pinpoint the cause of it, I would say they're clearly chasing a trend. With anime, so many are produced each year that it's not unusual for something like this to happen. That's why I don't consider this really a trend. If these type of characters showed up more frequently, I would agree that this probably isn't a coincidence. I'm not saying there isn't an increase, just that I don't think it's significant enough. |
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| Any normal person with no actual trauma freaks out over normal things, wHo KnEw, because they know they’ll get attention and support for it. It’s nowhere near social anxiety… this contradicts SOCIAL so hard. If you had social anxiety you wouldn’t be so publicly “quirky” like this. You’d keep everything to yourself, and I mean everything, not be SO open about it like she is. I get it, people freak out over things. Guess what? EVERYONE does. And omg, it is not cute. |
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