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Does anyone else find it annoying when 1 episode of a series is treated as a completely different series by Mal?

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May 6, 2022 12:32 AM
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This bugs me. Whenever i see a show on streaming or dvd as having 13 episodes and when i add it to my mal, only the first 12 episodes count and the last episode doesn't count as part of the series and instead is a completely different series on Mal. Like OVA episodes or something. Seems unnecessary, because where i watch the show, these ova episodes are just a regular part of the show. It makes my list feel cluttered.

I get that's how they aired, but when i watch it on dvd or crunchyroll or whatever, that seperate episode is just their as part of the regular series.
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May 6, 2022 12:38 AM
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https://myanimelist.net/anime/35997/M%C3%A4rchen_M%C3%A4dchen
https://myanimelist.net/anime/37973/M%C3%A4rchen_M%C3%A4dchen_Specials

Episodes 11 and 12 are treated as a separate entry just because they were BD-only.

But they were always meant to be aired, but they didn't finish them in time. They should not be a separate entry. The main entry literally has them in the episode videos tab.
May 6, 2022 12:45 AM
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Doesn't bother me so much. I don't mind finding and adding separate OVAs or what not, because sometimes these OVAs aired months after the original run or they were some beach episode or something that honestly might skew the rating of the main show if lumped together. It might also be helpful to you, as you mentioned, to understand why there might be some odd episode that doesn't make any sense to the context compared to the rest of the narrative (and me as a person who watches a lot of anime on bluray).
May 6, 2022 12:51 AM
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It may be confusing at times, but it doesn't really annoy me.
May 6, 2022 12:53 AM
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It's not too annoying if its a separate entry with a reasonable decision eg aired months after the TV series or an OVA extra
May 6, 2022 12:54 AM
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I find it annoying when e.g. in donghua, MAL lists something as multiple seasons when there's no break in between, the episode is simply aired the week after the prior one; and there isn't even a break in the episode number, it just continues where it left off; and there isn't any mention of a new season anywhere in the show or channel.

I don't mind specials if they are released on a different schedule or format.
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May 6, 2022 2:00 AM
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Rurouni Kenshin's split listings had me a bit confused as to which ones I watched ngl
May 6, 2022 2:10 AM
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I don't disagree with it. Let's say you were watching an airing anime. You finished the last episode. The "extra" episode was announced to be released 6 months later on DVD/BD. Now that means you would still have this anime under "Watching" for 6 months since you are waiting for the extra episode.
May 6, 2022 3:45 AM
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not really

however, this makes my blood fucking boil.
why does the episode have to be in english???? it's just so annoying

May 6, 2022 3:58 AM

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Between that and the existence of movies I can understand why so many people have a episode/completed ratio of 10 or below. Makes sense.
May 6, 2022 4:04 AM
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Absolutely this

Same with sequel seasons that don't change the previous season's title (eg My Hero Academia)
As opposed to ones that do (eg JOJO's Bizarre Adventure) which I'm perfectly fine with having separate entries
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May 6, 2022 4:07 AM
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NO doesn't bother me at all. The "Why can't cant people do everything to suit me and what I want" type topics do bother me.
May 6, 2022 5:14 AM

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it doesn't matter to me because it's not messy for me.
May 6, 2022 5:25 AM

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It makes sense for a special or ova that came out months after the show finished to be treated as a separate entry but I agree that it does look messy
May 6, 2022 5:34 AM
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No. People seem to forget that the type of media it was (TV Anime, Film, OVA) is an important method of categorisation for entries on the site and merging something like a one episode OVA with a tv series would lead to inconsistent information for entries. This is a classic case of those on the outside looking in, wanting a site's methods to conform to what's convenient to them rather than accurately catalogue information. Being extremely precise in categorisation is always preferable to being too broad.

Oldkight said:
NO doesn't bother me at all. The "Why can't cant people do everything to suit me and what I want" type topics do bother me.
Pretty much this.
May 6, 2022 6:01 AM

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God no, that's an incredibly stupid and unhelpful idea detrimental to basic functionality of this site, born from not thinking things through. There's plenty of good reasons why OVAs are seen as separate entries and releases, because they literally are. You just never bothered to stop and think about why things are handles as they are.

Because if you get what you want, we'd have to treat TV anime like OVAs are treated right now and keep every TV anime entry as 'currently airing' until there was 12-18 months of no new episodes. Because you never know if there isn't an OVA episode coming or being announced. Sometimes they come with random volumes of the manga in a bundle years later. Nobody could actually complete shows when they finish airing, everyone would have to wait for months or years, having insanely cluttered 'currently watching' lists and it would be an organisational mess.

And with the same argument you can also argue that any special or picture drama or split/second season should be one entry (some particularly unreflected individuals have already suggested it in this very thread), just turning every entry into a long-runner watered down by random episodes that spends more time on 'currently airing' than on 'completed', even when there is literally nothing 'currently airing' about them when they're on a 2-year break between seasons.

As I said, it's stupid when you think the idea through. But people rarely do, they just see what they want right this minute and ignore how realistic it is and all the other consequences that would come with implementing their 'solution'.

But trust me, it would be way more confusing and annoying to deal with endlessly ongoing entries that never get completed and instead get bloated with OVAs and Specials and everything else, than the current system which is pretty objective in how it asseses entry type and very simple to keep up with. Did it air on TV? Then it's a TV entry. Did it not air on TV? It's not a TV entry. Why needlessly complicate things and make it confusing as shit with no clear borders between entry types, just because some people have OCD about their list being 'cluttered'? I'm sorry, but basic functionality for everyone using this site trumps OPs OCD needs.

It's not our fault when people can't tell the difference between a different entry and a different series. I thought that was a pretty easy distinction to make, but apparently not...
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May 6, 2022 7:14 AM

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Just release the entire anime on one batch, don't even need to bother with seasons and stuff...
May 6, 2022 7:35 AM

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It annoys me too, which is why I ignore most of those OVA pages.
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May 6, 2022 11:11 AM

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OVAs and specials is understandable, I prefer it that way. I only don't like MAL having a separate entry for recap episodes.
May 6, 2022 11:56 AM

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and that's why I don't add OVAs and specials to my list. Mal really should have an option to consolidate a series under one entry.
May 6, 2022 12:56 PM

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takamono said:
It may be confusing at times, but it doesn't really annoy me.


Same here and sometimes it doesn't make sense for me.
May 6, 2022 1:06 PM

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I don't disagree with it. Let's say you were watching an airing anime. You finished the last episode. The "extra" episode was announced to be released 6 months later on DVD/BD. Now that means you would still have this anime under "Watching" for 6 months since you are waiting for the extra episode.


I get it for currently airing series but for older series, it makes no sense. The same reason older series aren't split into different seasons.

But for a series that ended years ago and has an extra episode that's treated as a regular episode on all official releases and by everything else is just another episode should just be bundled together.
My waifu is the most wonderful waifu. Mai Valentine.

We're freaking out that we're running out of time, but to do what? Should i stop and think of that? Is there something i could do to slow it down? Live in a day for once, instead of watch it sprinting by
May 9, 2022 10:44 AM

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In most cases, I have no issue with OVAs being treated as separate entries, especially if there is a significant time gap between their release and the air date of the base series.

There is one exception I came across a couple of years ago that really shouldn't have been an OVA. Unfortunately I don't remember which series this was with, but what apparently happened was that while the series was originally airing, a volume of the manga was released with a DVD that included the next episode and it hit the shelves a couple of days before the episode aired. Because of that it technically qualified as an OVA rather than a regular mid-season episode. But to someone watching the show years after the fact it's indistinguishable from a regular seasonal episode, and in fact it was even part of a multi-episode story arc.
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