| So how do you feel about plot armor present in most of battle shounens? |
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| Eh it's no big deal to me, i've watched quite a lot of action movies and most of them has a shit ton of plot armor in it, i'm used to plot armor at this point. that's why i really appreciate it when the writer has the guts to kill its characters (i appreciate it only if the death is executed properly of course). |
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| These last episodes have been seriously hard to watch at moments. I thought there would be more losses overall in this arc. They have to stop putting multi-layered death flags and doing nothing with them. Why was Gyutaro's explosion even a thing? The whole cast was already at death's door. I would have already expected Uzui to die. He was mere feet away from the explosion that destroyed the whole neighbourhood and got away with not a single injury from it??? What the hell? The last episode just ignored any injury the explosion should have inflicted to everyone in the radius. It's ok (and often necessary) to have some plot armour. But please don't purposely create random death flags just to shove more plot armour in the audience's throats. |
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FZREMAKE said: So how do you feel about plot armor present in most of battle shounens? Okay, then why is it consider peak shounen by many as noted by its rating? If it does the what the average shounen does, then why can't we criticize it for like many do when talk no jutsu from Naruto, or power of friendship from Fairytail takes places? Just because it is a common notion in the industry doesn't mean it is shouldn't be criticized for it. |
TheDegenerate said: I think except for Tanjiro and Nezuko the plot armour is not at such high of a level considering the rules of the KNY universe. And as can be seen pillars do die fighting the demons, is not like they have infinite plot armor... well except for the two MCSo this will discuss about moments in KNY season 2 so spoilers.... [spoiler] So, how do you feel about the Plot-Armour in Kny. Some examples like how Inosuke survived the Demon's poision because he re-arranged his organs or how Tanjiro said he can't fight anymore losing liters of blood but next scene is completely fine, or how Nezuko burns away the poision of Uzui so he doesn' t die etc[spoiler] Also Nezuo's blood art being able to burn away demons and demon related stuff is established way back when she fought Rui in first season. Is not a new power. And she only gets only 1 extra power by the end of the anime so I do nto think is that bad |
| this franchise is one of the hardest to watch. not only plot armor, the comeback is ruber-banding so hard, glowup is so cheap and under developed. |
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| I think these are not necessarily plot armours rather than preplanned escape routes that Gotouge uses to create tense scenarios. I do believe Nezuko healing everyone takes away from the repercussions this battle would have otherwise had, just like the resurrection after the Pain battle in Naruto, I think there would have been better ways to end things off for sure. |
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| Some of the most ridiculous and eye rolling plot armor and convenience that I have ever seen in the 1000 plus anime I've watched so far. In other words, garbage. |
| One of the biggest plot armors I've ever seen, comparable with Naruto or Mha. |
areunut said: TheDegenerate said: So this will discuss about moments in KNY season 2 so spoilers.... [spoiler] So, how do you feel about the Plot-Armour in Kny. Some examples like how Inosuke survived the Demon's poision because he re-arranged his organs or how Tanjiro said he can't fight anymore losing liters of blood but next scene is completely fine, or how Nezuko burns away the poision of Uzui so he doesn' t die etc[spoiler] ''Some examples like how Inosuke survived the Demon's poision because he re-arranged his organs'' During the Tsuzumi Mansion arc,Inosuke displayed his flexibility In this same arc,he literally rotate his body parts just to slither through a small hole. ''or how Tanjiro said he can't fight anymore losing liters of blood but next scene is completely fine'' no comment '' or how Nezuko burns away the poision of Uzui so he doesn' t die etc'' In Mugen train arc,Nezuko burn away Enmu thread so it shows that she can negate/cancel other demons art i only consider it plot armor,if they pull a last minute power up with no whatsoever explanation. Similar to Mary Sue tvtrope P.S i not familiar with MAL quote system Bruh the enmu threads are outside not inside and nezuko burning of poison is inside the body so technically for her blood to work it needs to go inside the body as that's how blood works, poison is not on skin but its inside in their blood, come on now its fucking bs, can't buy everything they throw at us. |
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TheDegenerate said: So this will discuss about moments in KNY season 2 so spoilers.... [spoiler] So, how do you feel about the Plot-Armour in Kny. Some examples like how Inosuke survived the Demon's poision because he re-arranged his organs or how Tanjiro said he can't fight anymore losing liters of blood but next scene is completely fine, or how Nezuko burns away the poision of Uzui so he doesn' t die etc[spoiler] well he rest for idk how much(anime only) and nezuko healed the poison so with regeneration breathing he can heal him self slowly and with some thing that he has that you will know on later seasons inosuke didnt get healed and you can see he is just alive but i dont think there is a point in explaining facts and Logic to a AOT fan |
| Nezuko getting stronger for no reason is just so boring, I get she's probably real special or something but she literally has never eaten any humans or even has to and always sits in a box for half a day but still keeps gaining new abilities, easily the worst character as the author did not even bother giving her any internal monologue for some reason (why can't she even talk? did I forgot something cause all the other demons can), she's just a braindead character who keeps getting stronger it's soooooo lame |
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areunut said: MazinIndian said: Bruh the enmu threads are outside not inside and nezuko burning of poison is inside the body so technically for her blood to work it needs to go inside the body as that's how blood works, poison is not on skin but its inside in their blood, come on now its fucking bs, can't buy everything they throw at us. The fact that you try to explain demon magic using real life logic is mind-boggling Also,it doesnt matter if the thread is outside or inside,as it can affect the inside of the body If you had read the manga,the thread affect their minds. Had Tanjirou cut the threads, Rengoku,Zenitsu and Insouke will never wake up forever. First enmu got no thread powers its just his hypnosis acting and those ropes acted as juncture points as that also don't make sense as those tickets made them sleep but how rope made two people connected but that's the anime logic but when nezuko burned it she burned those ropes or could say the hypnosis but hypnosis is intangible object so it makes sense but poison is tangible object and its inside the body so how she burned it from outside as gyoutarou poison worked when he slashed so it means his sickle had the poison and by cutting it went inside the body if not he must just touch someone and poison must act but that's not the case, so nezuko demon arts to work it should go inside body to burn the poison. Well it's ass pulls and plot armour so ok. As nezuko is special and she can sleep and gain the power of family. Also inosuke surviving the poison is as bs as it sounds, like moving joints is fine but moving internal organs is dumb af like he grew up with boars doesn't mean he can change the anatomy he is still human and moving heart at the exact moment is what is called plot armour so there is no logic here its just plot armour, and not comparing to real world just telling its all plot armour and ass pulls. I got no problem with all plot armour or ass pulls but don't try to justify its explained as it can be as much as it wants but at the end of the day its ass pull and plot armour. Same as naruto activating his chakra points when blocked and yes he can heal those points with nine tails but that's exactly plot armour and ass pull even if it is explained. |
Tats_Spill_TeaFeb 13, 2022 12:50 PM
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| Inosuke is from the beginning portrayed as ridiculous character with absolute flexibility and cartoonish way of digging through ground but people get annoyed by "moving internal organs" thing? |
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bastek66 said: Inosuke is from the beginning portrayed as ridiculous character with absolute flexibility and cartoonish way of digging through ground but people get annoyed by "moving internal organs" thing? Being Flexible is acceptable and even moving joints is also acceptable as there are anime and even in real life instances of that but moving internal organs is major ass pull that's it. Living in forest can give flexibility if you train enough and also moving the joints as many martial artists are able to do it but not internal organs dude its just too damn much, i am willing to even believe the poison resistance but not the moving of internal organs and also he was stabbed very fast so that means he moved his heart faster than the sickle reaching it, god saying all this sounds so ridiculous. |
| 2025 might be the year where I will be happy. This year is not happy year. |
| It's literally established in the Rui fight in S1 that Nezuko's fire only works on demons/objects of demonic origin, but yes let's keep complaining that her fire stopping Gyutaro's attack and burning away the poison is an asspull. |
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MazinIndian said: bastek66 said: Inosuke is from the beginning portrayed as ridiculous character with absolute flexibility and cartoonish way of digging through ground but people get annoyed by "moving internal organs" thing? Being Flexible is acceptable and even moving joints is also acceptable as there are anime and even in real life instances of that but moving internal organs is major ass pull that's it. Living in forest can give flexibility if you train enough and also moving the joints as many martial artists are able to do it but not internal organs dude its just too damn much, i am willing to even believe the poison resistance but not the moving of internal organs and also he was stabbed very fast so that means he moved his heart faster than the sickle reaching it, god saying all this sounds so ridiculous. Ridiculous is Inosuke's second name. |
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| One of the things I hated is how Nezuko gets sidelined after this arc, maybe the mangaka thought "damn... I think I made her too OP" and I enjoyed watching her fights way more than Tanjiro's, specially because she fights "like a demon" while Tanjiro uses talk no jutsu. |
| "But all battle shounen have plot armour" I don't remember an anime where the character gets stabbed in his heart and then just says "I changed my heart's position hahahahahah" |
| If you're a fanboy, please don't waste my time. Watch more movies, please. Perhaps, this is hell. |
| Its kind of inoffensive atm, though the way the entertainment arc ended felt very undeserved like it set up high stakes and decided to just say, nah. Phosphophyllita said: Also there are plenty of battle shounen without it or even diablos ex machina affecting them, MC of world trigger constantly eats shit, chainsaw man is basically a jenga tower during an earthquake, jujutsu is packed to the brim with death. These are just modern examples the subgenre has existed for like 35 years."But all battle shounen have plot armour" I don't remember an anime where the character gets stabbed in his heart and then just says "I changed my heart's position hahahahahah" |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| I can let Inosuke explanation pass because his character is exaggerated in term of his ability to control his muscles also moving your organs around isn’t completely impossible in real life but I still think it’s an exaggeration. As for Tanjiro , I can't explain how he can still talk. Sure the breathing techniques help but still doesn’t make sense. The reason doesn’t have to be realistic, it just needs to be consonant with Kimetsu world’s logic. |
1Kyo said: plot-armor crown I like the way you think. |
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ricen0odle said: Phosphophyllita said: "But all battle shounen have plot armour" I don't remember an anime where the character gets stabbed in his heart and then just says "I changed my heart's position hahahahahah" reiner in aot lmao Holy shit, Shingeki's third season is so abysmal that I completely forgot that Reiner's bullshit. |
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Phosphophyllita said: But he didn't get stabbed in the heart O_O"But all battle shounen have plot armour" I don't remember an anime where the character gets stabbed in his heart and then just says "I changed my heart's position hahahahahah" |
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MikitoList said: Phosphophyllita said: But he didn't get stabbed in the heart O_O"But all battle shounen have plot armour" I don't remember an anime where the character gets stabbed in his heart and then just says "I changed my heart's position hahahahahah" Hmmm, sure... My mistake. Have a nice week. |
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MikitoList said: Phosphophyllita said: But he didn't get stabbed in the heart O_O"But all battle shounen have plot armour" I don't remember an anime where the character gets stabbed in his heart and then just says "I changed my heart's position hahahahahah" Lmao i love how Blind Fan definition applies on you. |
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