What do u think about homophobic people
They are Peice of shit.
25.3%
49
They have most grounded mentality.
21.6%
42
They still lives in 18 th century.
20.6%
40
Born without brain.
32.5%
63
194 votes
MAYOIII said: what even defines homophobia today so many standards are altered you could be called transphobic for saying transwoman are not real women Well, that's the thing. Saying transwomen are not real women IS transphobic. |
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Seiya said: MAYOIII said: what even defines homophobia today so many standards are altered you could be called transphobic for saying transwoman are not real women Well, that's the thing. Saying transwomen are not real women IS transphobic. that does not make sense even. If that so, then shouldn't it be sexist? to call a woman that is not real woman. if transwomen are women then whatever discrimination they face should be called sexism against women. so straight men are attracted to women. if a straight women does not date a transwoman, is he being transphobic/sexist? |
Oznerol7 said: Preachee said: I have no clue what this even means. I'm also not sure if you even know what you're talking about. How obvious is it really? Is there some kind of record? Just look at different fanbase of different shows and it's already wildly polarizing. MHA fanbase is cancer of the planet, but they aren't homophobic are they? I'm also pretty sure fanbases of most popular anime (which takes up a big proportion, obviously) aren't infamous for some homophobia shit. Like it's not even a thing to begin with. Since anime community is so vast, lumping everyone together and say 'in general it's more homophobic' seems much of a stretch. Not convinced. Open literally any anime sub-reddit/anituber comment section/FB page or group/any anime-related chatboard (ok chatboards maybe doesn't count) and yes, it is pretty obvious. Vocal minority? Maybe, i hope, but they are a lot for sure Hmm really? Anituber comment section? Seriously? Either way, I'm not sure what anime subreddits you're on. I had been on r/anime(me), r/animecirclejerk, even the anime version of okbuddyretard. From what I saw people were very openly supporting the gays. Or are you referring to the widespread hate on the recently released Crunchyroll liberal show? I mean, as far as I can tell, no one really hates Utena or Doukyuusei just because it features homosexuals. So you know full well the reason isn't homophobia. Also I could make the same argument. Go on a Marvel or Nintendo forum boards, it's not just anime, trust me. And thing is, I do think it's not much different with anime fanbase. So to say it's "more homophobic" seems unfair. |
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jal90 said: _FRB_ said: No. If the level of "going out of their way" is commenting about it in a forum, then no, it doesn't. Where else other than forums and comment sections are you seeing the so called homophobes saying it is disgusting and creepy? Where else other than forums and comment sections would you see LGBT people saying they think it's disgusting and creepy? The level of "going out of their way" is commenting it when it's not asked and it's uncalled for, only because "gay creepy" ellicits a reaction. I'm sorry you don't know how trolling and flaming dynamics work even when you have an account in MAL. Even if this is at fully display in this thread with people posting harmless photos and quoting them just to say how disgusting LGBT+ people are. Your follow-up questions are a weird attempt to move goalposts. We are talking about the stuff we find in MAL, so we are talking about forum and comment sections. If you want to discuss real life homophobia at display, I'm sure you can find tons of examples just by searching hate crime cases across the globe. I am not moving goalposts. You said It's the people that go out of their way to call gay/lesbian fiction disgusting or creepy So I asked about LGBT people that think that, and you implied they were not going out of their way to post such thoughts, that I ignored the "going out of their way part." But they've put exactly the same effort in as the so called homophobes that also posted that they think gay fiction is creepy or disgusting. I don't believe you would find people saying such things unless it's relevant to the topic. It's relevant to the topic here, why would you use this thread as an example? Say in a thread just like this someone says that they find gay fiction to be creepy, and they get called a homophobe. Then it turns out that person is actually gay because again, not an uncommon combination. Whoops. Weren't we just sure of their homophobia a minute ago? I'm not talking about anyone else in the thread who acts like a blatant homophobe or homophobia that happens in real life. I am talking about this statement you made and your follow up argument as it pertains specifically to the topic of gay fiction. The follow up questions are relevant because I'm asking if a suspected homophobe and an LGBT person both commented on a BL series that they thought it was creepy and disgusting (i.e. they're making the same comment) what would be the difference between the two? That's you moving goalposts, not me. |
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_FRB_ said: jal90 said: It seems "go out of their way" was lost in translation, would this answer your gotcha? Also, sorry for not bringing *every* potential case to the table in a post made to rant about assholes. No. If the level of "going out of their way" is commenting about it in a forum, then no, it doesn't. Where else other than forums and comment sections are you seeing the so called homophobes saying it is disgusting and creepy? Where else other than forums and comment sections would you see LGBT people saying they think it's disgusting and creepy? @Deathko Hard Gay is a character created by a comedian. In reality he's a straight married man who uses homosexuality as a gimmick. He was even criticized by a Japanese LGBT support group for his mockery of gays, adding that the Japanese public's approval of the character reinforced the belief that homosexuality was something to be stereotyped and laughed at. The character was only allowed on TV at the time because it stereotyped aspects of American gay culture and not Japanese gay culture. I don't think that supports whatever point you were trying to make comparing it to pride parades and drag shows. Oh, I know who Hard Gay is, and I know it can look like a half-baked argument. BUT If being around kids in a cliché BDSM gay attire in a manifestation to defend your rights to be gay is degeneracy, then what can we say about doing the same for lolz and money, at the expense of a community you don't even belong to? Just don't bring your 6 yo kids to the gay pride people please, they probably don't need to see the inevitable 3-4 hardcore exhibitionnists who can't contain themselves when there's such an event < ' >_< ' >. |
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_FRB_ said: jal90 said: The level of "going out of their way" is commenting it when it's not asked and it's uncalled for, only because "gay creepy" ellicits a reaction. I'm sorry you don't know how trolling and flaming dynamics work even when you have an account in MAL. Even if this is at fully display in this thread with people posting harmless photos and quoting them just to say how disgusting LGBT+ people are. Your follow-up questions are a weird attempt to move goalposts. We are talking about the stuff we find in MAL, so we are talking about forum and comment sections. If you want to discuss real life homophobia at display, I'm sure you can find tons of examples just by searching hate crime cases across the globe. I am not moving goalposts. You said It's the people that go out of their way to call gay/lesbian fiction disgusting or creepy So I asked about LGBT people that think that, and you implied they were not going out of their way to post such thoughts, that I ignored the "going out of their way part." But they've put exactly the same effort in as the so called homophobes that also posted that they think gay fiction is creepy or disgusting. I don't believe you would find people saying such things unless it's relevant to the topic. It's relevant to the topic here, why would you use this thread as an example? Say in a thread just like this someone says that they find gay fiction to be creepy, and they get called a homophobe. Then it turns out that person is actually gay because again, not an uncommon combination. Whoops. Weren't we just sure of their homophobia a minute ago? I'm not talking about anyone else in the thread who acts like a blatant homophobe or homophobia that happens in real life. I am talking about this statement you made and your follow up argument as it pertains specifically to the topic of gay fiction. The follow up questions are relevant because I'm asking if a suspected homophobe and an LGBT person both commented on a BL series that they thought it was creepy and disgusting (i.e. they're making the same comment) what would be the difference between the two? That's you moving goalposts, not me. If you have to say I implied something, that means I didn't say it. So your first paragraph is a bit of a non-argument. As for the rest, I also think I have been clear, but I can be again: context. To say something is creepy or disgusting is a phrasing that is potentially inflammatory, and you can identify very well when it's said with that intention, particularly when it is not called for. For instance, going to the subforum or the news section of an anime you don't even plan to watch only to vent about how disgusting it is. Also, you are making this case about LGBT people complaining about stuff they find creepy in BL/GL media like I denied their chance to be assholes. |
jal90 said: _FRB_ said: I am not moving goalposts. You said So I asked about LGBT people that think that, and you implied they were not going out of their way to post such thoughts, that I ignored the "going out of their way part." But they've put exactly the same effort in as the so called homophobes that also posted that they think gay fiction is creepy or disgusting. I don't believe you would find people saying such things unless it's relevant to the topic. It's relevant to the topic here, why would you use this thread as an example? Say in a thread just like this someone says that they find gay fiction to be creepy, and they get called a homophobe. Then it turns out that person is actually gay because again, not an uncommon combination. Whoops. Weren't we just sure of their homophobia a minute ago? I'm not talking about anyone else in the thread who acts like a blatant homophobe or homophobia that happens in real life. I am talking about this statement you made and your follow up argument as it pertains specifically to the topic of gay fiction. The follow up questions are relevant because I'm asking if a suspected homophobe and an LGBT person both commented on a BL series that they thought it was creepy and disgusting (i.e. they're making the same comment) what would be the difference between the two? That's you moving goalposts, not me. If you have to say I implied something, that means I didn't say it. So your first paragraph is a bit of a non-argument. As for the rest, I also think I have been clear, but I can be again: context. To say something is creepy or disgusting is a phrasing that is potentially inflammatory, and you can identify very well when it's said with that intention, particularly when it is not called for. For instance, going to the subforum or the news section of an anime you don't even plan to watch only to vent about how disgusting it is. Also, you are making this case about LGBT people complaining about stuff they find creepy in BL/GL media like I denied their chance to be assholes. I didn't want to have to many quotes inside of quotes so I paraphrased, but I shouldn't have done that. You said It seems "go out of their way" was lost in translation, would this answer your gotcha? In that case I don't think's it's an implication, you are outright saying in no uncertain terms that the example I gave of LGBT people saying the same things as suspected homophobes being different, because you believe it would not be going out of their way on the part of LGBT people. So when I said "you implied they were not going out of their way to post such thoughts" that is actually what you said, unless you wish to retcon that previous statement now. You are pretending it is rare for LGBT people to feel unfavorably toward gay fiction when it is not, you can see it on MAL alone in quite literally almost every instance of it being brought up. This is why calling it a "gotcha" is so disingenuous. Again you are basically ignoring where I am asking if a suspected homophobe and an LGBT person both commented on a BL series that they thought it was creepy and disgusting (i.e. they're making the same comment) what would be the difference between the two? Ignore all your preconceptions about intent to provoke. Who is going more out of their way to post the same thing in the same place? In my opinion neither of them are, but you have tried to argue otherwise. |
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| After that horrendous anime Yuri on Ice won Crunchyroll roll awards, You can't blame me for despising boys love anime, |
| @_FRB_ No, I really just mean saying something that can be inflammatory in a context where it can only be viewed as such: when it's uncalled for, when it's done to provoke and fight with the fandom, when you are really not going to interact with the show in question anyway but you want to make clear how much you hate it in front of the fans. You keep putting words in my mouth all through this basic misunderstanding in mind. First goes the assumption that being toxic or confrontative with BL/GL fiction is always rooted in homophobia, which I believe I never said, and maybe I gave you that impression because we are talking specifically about homophobic remarks in this thread. Second goes the idea that I think being creeped out by BL/GL stuff is bad. Heck, it's not even bad if somebody is disgusted by these works. To each their own as long as they don't bother others. They can also give reasons and argue why they don't like it. And finally, just because I mention people being blatantly homophobic in ways that are provocative and uncalled for doesn't mean that I believe certain LGBT people can't be toxic in their own ways. Toxicity is not something exclusive on the internet. |
Cestlavie_ said: After that horrendous anime Yuri on Ice won Crunchyroll roll awards, You can't blame me for despising boys love anime, based CIS-bro. this thread was a mistake. |
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Deathko said: Yes that's the color... I am even more disapointed now because I saw other pictures where he looks like some kind of epic Jojo character.Nubiellee said: I don't think about them at all. I watch anime. I don't mind him wearing a dress but he chose to be a walking green screen. Why is that? There are beautiful dresses out there so why a green screen? Is there a story behind this picture? Hahaha I can't unsee it now! TBH I think the dress is quite fancy, even if I'd have picked another color. Kinda looks like mint syrup + milk which is the worst shade of green I can think of. |
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MAYOIII said: that does not make sense even. If that so, then shouldn't it be sexist? to call a woman that is not real woman. if transwomen are women then whatever discrimination they face should be called sexism against women. so straight men are attracted to women. if a straight women does not date a transwoman, is he being transphobic/sexist? You made a very solid point and i also feel the same way but thing is right now showing any kind of opinion NOT in favour of people from LGBTQ+ is taken as hate so there is no point in asking for justification or trying to justify yourself as they will twist their narrative to demonise you just to justify their point, it's basically you are either with them or against them, there is no "oh i like to make my own opinion" here. Honestly half of the hate for LGBTQ+ (mostly on social forums) is because it's opinion is forced onto you even tho you are never against them and respect them and have your own belief system but this all is in the guise of they suffered too much so we all need to bear it mindset and i get this philosophy but it will never help the cause and will make people hate it even more. |
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MazinIndian said: MAYOIII said: that does not make sense even. If that so, then shouldn't it be sexist? to call a woman that is not real woman. if transwomen are women then whatever discrimination they face should be called sexism against women. so straight men are attracted to women. if a straight women does not date a transwoman, is he being transphobic/sexist? You made a very solid point and i also feel the same way but thing is right now showing any kind of opinion NOT in favour of people from LGBTQ+ is taken as hate so there is no point in asking for justification or trying to justify yourself as they will twist their narrative to demonise you just to justify their point, it's basically you are either with them or against them, there is no "oh i like to make my own opinion" here. Honestly half of the hate for LGBTQ+ (mostly on social forums) is because it's opinion is forced onto you even tho you are never against them and respect them and have your own belief system but this all is in the guise of they suffered too much so we all need to bear it mindset and i get this philosophy but it will never help the cause and will make people hate it even more. I am using logic here bevause if we truly apply "lgbt" concept into today's climate a lot of the lgbt concept would contract to their own ideas. Such as, using the term"transwomen". If transwomen should be seen as real women then they should not call themselves transwomen, nor do they need to specify(as a transwoman etc.). The term "bisexual" would be considered illogical too since there are "more than two genders and sexes" according to some people. the usage of this word implies there are just two in the general sense. |
| When it comes two men being romantic and doing cute things like straight couples, they'll get all angry and call it disgusting or something. I don't think they mind yuri anime, which is hypocritical. Yeah, they're just idiots. |
| Cartoons and anime is my reality. |
| Because most anime fans are awful individuals in the first place. |
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| the poll seem a lot one sided, i know people that are homophobic and smart, beliefs are inherited from parents or enviroment regardless of intelligence |
| I haven't really noticed it being such a huge problem but maybe that's because I don't go around looking for things to get offended about. |
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MAYOIII said: MazinIndian said: You made a very solid point and i also feel the same way but thing is right now showing any kind of opinion NOT in favour of people from LGBTQ+ is taken as hate so there is no point in asking for justification or trying to justify yourself as they will twist their narrative to demonise you just to justify their point, it's basically you are either with them or against them, there is no "oh i like to make my own opinion" here. Honestly half of the hate for LGBTQ+ (mostly on social forums) is because it's opinion is forced onto you even tho you are never against them and respect them and have your own belief system but this all is in the guise of they suffered too much so we all need to bear it mindset and i get this philosophy but it will never help the cause and will make people hate it even more. I am using logic here bevause if we truly apply "lgbt" concept into today's climate a lot of the lgbt concept would contract to their own ideas. Such as, using the term"transwomen". If transwomen should be seen as real women then they should not call themselves transwomen, nor do they need to specify(as a transwoman etc.). The term "bisexual" would be considered illogical too since there are "more than two genders and sexes" according to some people. the usage of this word implies there are just two in the general sense. You just made a point against their nomenclature with a solid logic but here is the thing that if anyone sees this they will concoct a new point to make against you and when they will fail to justify it they will label you as homophobic, transphobic and bigot. That's what goes on major social media platform with debates like these. |
| 2025 might be the year where I will be happy. This year is not happy year. |
| What do you meeeeeeeeannnnnnnnn? People love lesbians. |
OniiChanlol said: DIO is bisexual so he's probably fine with themI'm not homophobic, but i will gladly inform pucci about gay people so that he can reset the universe. |
Frostwork said: this is hilarious, thanks for reminding me that epople are thrown out of their homes for being straight by their heterohpbic parentsI've no idea what you're talking about. All I've seen on this forum is heterophobic shit. Like your thread, for instance. It's true for almost all of the internet and very much for irl too. You're not oppressed at all, so stop playing the victim and fuck off with your nonsense. Want to see intolerant bigots? Look in the mirror, morons. |
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