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After 2 episodes getting delayed can we all agree that Aniplex is shit?

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Nov 21, 2021 1:57 AM
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It happened with Cloverworks (also owned by Aniplex) earlier this year where they had production issues and/or rushed adaptations, but now that's also happening with A-1 studios with 86 part 2. I'm starting to think that Aniplex is really just a dogshit production company that fucks over its good studios.

EDIT: People need to understand that Aniplex is the company that creates production schedules for A-1 studios. I'm not saying A-1 studios is bad, quite the opposite. Learn how the animation industry works, guys.
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Nov 21, 2021 2:01 AM
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Yeah it sucks but if the episodes are this good, I got no complaints fam


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Nov 21, 2021 2:13 AM
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No, if artists need more time to finish work i will wait. I would call people who push work shits more likely.
Nov 21, 2021 2:25 AM
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Yes Aniplex is dogshit. And it's hilarious asf to see replies here denying with the OP without reading/understanding what they're saying.
Nov 21, 2021 2:25 AM
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I would rather have episodes delayed and have good quality episodes (especially for great animes like 86) rather than no delays and rushed episodes with shit quality
Nov 21, 2021 2:35 AM
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We did get episode 7 yesterday. When was the show delayed??
Nov 21, 2021 2:37 AM
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We did get episode 7 yesterday. When was the show delayed??

Episode 8 is delayed. Episode 7 came out yesterday, but yesterday was a week later than it was meant to, because that was delayed for a week after episode 6 came out.
Nov 21, 2021 2:40 AM
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Ok, I knew that ep 7 was delayed by 1 week and came out yesterday in pace if last week but I didn't knew that even ep 8 was delayed
Nov 21, 2021 2:52 AM
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Are we even sure that its Aniplex's fault though.

There are a number of issues that can cause episodes to be delayed after all. Like animation quality, Director tweaking to ensure overall quality, Lack of staff due to illness etc. I hear that the author for the source material is in poor health as well so if they need her input on the production side that may be a factor as well.

In the end I rather have episodes that while delayed retain their high quality than ones that were rushed and end up losing it. No one wants a repeat of what happened to My Sister my writer after all.
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Nov 21, 2021 3:03 AM
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I would not go that far that Aniplex sucks, also they are giving an extra week delay for each episode so A1 can finish them. They could easily force episodes 7 8 and 9 to come out unfinished, yet they gave some time. Yes, it kinda sucks to wait an extra week for episodes, especially now that the anime is really at its climax, but oh well. I would rather wait an extra week, than see/listen to people complaining how bad /unfinished the animation is.
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Judevin said:
It happened with Cloverworks (also owned by Aniplex) earlier this year where they had production issues and/or rushed adaptations, but now that's also happening with A-1 studios with 86 part 2. I'm starting to think that Aniplex is really just a dogshit production company that fucks over its good studios.


The whole industry is in a state, would you rather see animation quality plummet (we've had plenty of those) or read articles about the intense pressure the animators are put under to complete work to time and standard?

The production issues are one thing, but I applaud the decision to delay rather than heap pressure or reduce quality.

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Nov 21, 2021 3:28 AM
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You can't just go blaming people. There are a lot of things that needs to be perfect specially in anime like 86 with top tier cgi. They are humans too, it's possible there might have been few issues, but i think they are doing there best. There might have been few issues with Aniplex but there are many good animes that it gave us too. So I don't think you should blame anyone, everyone makes mistake.
Nov 21, 2021 3:38 AM
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Actually seeing from Aniplex's point of view, they didn't want the hype to die out as this series didn't get enough recognition. The hype was kept intact but the studio house officials were jampacked with work. As a LN reader I can assure you that the upcoming scenes are gonna take a lot of animation, cgi and work. As an 86 fan I'm thrilled to see how A-1 Pictures is taking it's time to deliver the maximum quality to this show.
Nov 21, 2021 3:49 AM

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[The whole industry is in a state, would you rather see animation quality plummet (we've had plenty of those) or read articles about the intense pressure the animators are put under to complete work to time and standard?

The production issues are one thing, but I applaud the decision to delay rather than heap pressure or reduce quality.
I would rather see a production being done in a state where they don't have to rush OR delay. Both are bad, and we saw both with Cloverworks, and Cloverworks gets hella criticism for both of those situations. A-1 doesn't get criticism (based on these replies) simply because 86 is a well-liked anime which has the potential to bring in money, this is also the reason why Lidenfilms was completely fine with Tokyo Revengers despite the dogass animation.

So it all comes back to Aniplex being pretty shit for how they manage their studios and the production schedules lmao.
Nov 21, 2021 3:50 AM
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Id rather wait than getting a dogshit episode
Nov 21, 2021 3:54 AM
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Bruhh..u need to be patient
Nov 21, 2021 4:46 AM
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Just be patient bro, it's worth waiting one more week because 86 have top-tier CGI. It's better than having the episode on time with shitty animation.
Nov 21, 2021 5:04 AM
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Id rather wait than getting a dogshit episode

1000% agree.If the delay means better quality im all for it
Nov 21, 2021 5:09 AM
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Judevin said:
borderliner said:
[The whole industry is in a state, would you rather see animation quality plummet (we've had plenty of those) or read articles about the intense pressure the animators are put under to complete work to time and standard?

The production issues are one thing, but I applaud the decision to delay rather than heap pressure or reduce quality.
I would rather see a production being done in a state where they don't have to rush OR delay. Both are bad, and we saw both with Cloverworks, and Cloverworks gets hella criticism for both of those situations. A-1 doesn't get criticism (based on these replies) simply because 86 is a well-liked anime which has the potential to bring in money, this is also the reason why Lidenfilms was completely fine with Tokyo Revengers despite the dogass animation.

So it all comes back to Aniplex being pretty shit for how they manage their studios and the production schedules lmao.
We don't know for sure why it's delayed plus don't forget they are humans too so what if we have to wait for 2 weeks you aren't gonna die stop overreacting
Nov 21, 2021 5:13 AM

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Sayali567 said:
Judevin said:
I would rather see a production being done in a state where they don't have to rush OR delay. Both are bad, and we saw both with Cloverworks, and Cloverworks gets hella criticism for both of those situations. A-1 doesn't get criticism (based on these replies) simply because 86 is a well-liked anime which has the potential to bring in money, this is also the reason why Lidenfilms was completely fine with Tokyo Revengers despite the dogass animation.

So it all comes back to Aniplex being pretty shit for how they manage their studios and the production schedules lmao.
We don't know for sure why it's delayed plus don't forget they are humans too so what if we have to wait for 2 weeks you aren't gonna die stop overreacting
What I fail to understand is why people are so hesitant to call Aniplex shit. They have demonstrated to be a toxic production company for a long ass time, they have multiple videos showing them to be shit, yet for some reason people of MAL always are like "Nah Aniplex is ok".

Aniplex is not the same as A-1 Studios. I'm quite literally saying the production company that runs A-1 studios is shit. They have no hand in making the anime apart from giving them schedules which CAUSE delays or rushes in the first place.
Nov 21, 2021 6:12 AM
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Judevin said:
It happened with Cloverworks (also owned by Aniplex) earlier this year where they had production issues and/or rushed adaptations, but now that's also happening with A-1 studios with 86 part 2. I'm starting to think that Aniplex is really just a dogshit production company that fucks over its good studios.

EDIT: People need to understand that Aniplex is the company that creates production schedules for A-1 studios. I'm not saying A-1 studios is bad, quite the opposite. Learn how the animation industry works, guys.


Stop crying over a studio taking its time to fix mistakes 😭
Nov 21, 2021 6:26 AM

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Judevin said:
It happened with Cloverworks (also owned by Aniplex) earlier this year where they had production issues and/or rushed adaptations, but now that's also happening with A-1 studios with 86 part 2. I'm starting to think that Aniplex is really just a dogshit production company that fucks over its good studios.

EDIT: People need to understand that Aniplex is the company that creates production schedules for A-1 studios. I'm not saying A-1 studios is bad, quite the opposite. Learn how the animation industry works, guys.


Stop crying over a studio taking its time to fix mistakes 😭
I said production company not studio, please learn to read. Thank you.
Nov 21, 2021 6:50 AM
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OP is right. No one is talking about A-1 Pictures, in fact some of my favorite anime is made by them. Some episodes were delayed cause of "production issues" (according to Aniplex anyways) but Aniplex is known by now for having terrible organization and abusing its power in the industry to half-ass everything it does. It's very likely that the production issues come from Aniplex's scheduling. The whole ordeal with the "special program" (not 86, some other thing airing when the 10th episode was meant to air, meaning they're gonna have to push that one back as well) just shows how much of a mess Aniplex is making.
Nov 21, 2021 6:51 AM

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hmm yeah who knows what the trigger for their production issues really is they for sure will never let the public now it could have lots of reasons why so no need to make big fuzz about it and find a scapegoat
Nov 21, 2021 6:52 AM
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There are people out there creating beautiful content for us. Complaining is just disrespectful.
Nov 21, 2021 7:02 AM
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MK17_2 said:
There are people out there creating beautiful content for us. Complaining is just disrespectful.
Aniplex isn't creating anything tho.
Nov 21, 2021 7:04 AM
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Judevin said:
Codonaine said:


Stop crying over a studio taking its time to fix mistakes 😭
I said production company not studio, please learn to read. Thank you.


I know how to read. I don’t want to waste my time reading something thats not important.
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Codonaine said:
Judevin said:
I said production company not studio, please learn to read. Thank you.


I know how to read. I don’t want to waste my time reading something thats not important.
Bruh. Then your statement means Aniplex is an animation studio lmao
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Sb98 said:
Codonaine said:


I know how to read. I don’t want to waste my time reading something thats not important.
Bruh. Then your statement means Aniplex is an animation studio lmao


I do not care. It’s no one’s fault that they are delaying the episodes. Just watch other things while waiting. It’s not that hard…
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Codonaine said:
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Bruh. Then your statement means Aniplex is an animation studio lmao


I do not care. It’s no one’s fault that they are delaying the episodes. Just watch other things while waiting. It’s not that hard…
Ofc it's their fault. Their greed for money and lack of passion is what makes them create a bad schedule for the studio adapting the series, A1 Pictures in this case. And the whole situation is unfortunate for the animators.

And for the last part, you're right. That's exactly what I'll be doing for the next two weeks.
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Sb98 said:
Codonaine said:


I do not care. It’s no one’s fault that they are delaying the episodes. Just watch other things while waiting. It’s not that hard…
Ofc it's their fault. Their greed for money and lack of passion is what makes them create a bad schedule for the studio adapting the series, A1 Pictures in this case. And the whole situation is unfortunate for the animators.

And for the last part, you're right. That's exactly what I'll be doing for the next two weeks.


Why are you assuming everything, “their greed for money.” What if they want to make 86 better?
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Codonaine said:
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Ofc it's their fault. Their greed for money and lack of passion is what makes them create a bad schedule for the studio adapting the series, A1 Pictures in this case. And the whole situation is unfortunate for the animators.

And for the last part, you're right. That's exactly what I'll be doing for the next two weeks.


Why are you assuming everything, “their greed for money.” What if they want to make 86 better?
If they really wanted that, they would've delayed it by another season, just like Mushoku was delayed.
Nov 21, 2021 7:36 AM

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Complain all you want about Aniplex, but they would be dogshit if they had actually rushed the episodes instead of delaying them.

Also Aniplex isn't there just to make schedules and all, the director, staff and other factors are all chosen by Aniplex, and not to mention the money, the reason why 86 looks so good is because Aniplex is one of richest anime production companies and has put millions into that project, very rarely their animes have bad production.

You can compare them to Kadokawa who is also another huge producer, but look how shit the detective is already dead was.
Nov 21, 2021 7:37 AM

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I heard even episode 9 is also getting delayed because of some festival or something
Nov 21, 2021 8:47 AM

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I heard even episode 9 is also getting delayed because of some festival or something


Also I don’t think anime airs on Christmas and there’s New Years
Yeah, so I'll just wait till it ends and then start from the first ep again. Bye bye for the time being, 86!
Nov 21, 2021 9:25 AM
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Judevin said:
It happened with Cloverworks (also owned by Aniplex) earlier this year where they had production issues and/or rushed adaptations, but now that's also happening with A-1 studios with 86 part 2. I'm starting to think that Aniplex is really just a dogshit production company that fucks over its good studios.

EDIT: People need to understand that Aniplex is the company that creates production schedules for A-1 studios. I'm not saying A-1 studios is bad, quite the opposite. Learn how the animation industry works, guys.

The production team getting rushed led to Attack on Titan season 4’s somewhat choppy graphics. And now, everyone shits on mappa
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Judevin said:
It happened with Cloverworks (also owned by Aniplex) earlier this year where they had production issues and/or rushed adaptations, but now that's also happening with A-1 studios with 86 part 2. I'm starting to think that Aniplex is really just a dogshit production company that fucks over its good studios.

EDIT: People need to understand that Aniplex is the company that creates production schedules for A-1 studios. I'm not saying A-1 studios is bad, quite the opposite. Learn how the animation industry works, guys.

The production team getting rushed led to Attack on Titan season 4’s somewhat choppy graphics. And now, everyone shits on mappa

Oh wait I saw some arguments supporting you, and maybe you’re right actually. I haven’t read up on how bad production companies are
Nov 21, 2021 9:59 AM

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For the content and the animation we are receiving, I think the delays are fine.
READ THE BEGINNING AFTER THE END. Seriously, it is an S-tier manwha and should be added to mal in the future.
Nov 21, 2021 11:43 AM
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Nope. You getting quality, quit whining.
Nov 21, 2021 12:50 PM
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These delays are really bad. Waiting two weeks for a 20-minute episode is really tiring.
Nov 21, 2021 2:58 PM

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They're definitely oblivious to how much this can hurt their reputation and change their fans expectations. I mean had it only been a one time type of thing, I wouldn't have given it much thought, but the fact that it's repetitive shows how bad they are at managing things. It just feels unprofessional, and the studios end up taking the big hit since they're the ones that have to get the job done at the end of the day.

Sure, you get "good" quality, but animators and directors have to go through shit to deliver that quality. What do they get in return? Probably nothing.
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Nov 21, 2021 3:08 PM
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Or you know... you just wait patiently without shitting on anyone?
Chances are high that a lot of people are watching illegal anyway (I mean, I do this too sometimes, if it isn't on any streaming service), so I don't think you can complain about their schedule or anything.
The majority of animators don't get paid well enough either to rush them and overwork them even more.

I'd rather have episodes in really good quality too than rushed episodes.
I remember horrific stuff like Sailor Moon Crystal's deformations for example, because they rushed it. It was... something else lol.

Also in Corona times you don't know, if someone of the key team might be ill / in quarantine. I mean, you never know that, if something happened or not.
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