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May 1, 2021 8:58 AM
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Ye, Barbie is definitely someone not to get easy along with.

Emilico's cheerfulness and curiousity is still all over the place but she seems to be adapting more and more to her environment. She's a kid so I do find it somewhat amusing that she doesn't show too much concern about her own life in that house.
May 1, 2021 8:59 AM
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Emilico doesn't seem to really understand the gravity of the situation shes in, I guess whatever method they used to trick these kids into working for them was very effective. Assuming they really are human and not life forms created by the house.
May 1, 2021 9:01 AM
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I'm literally shaking and gritting my teeth right now, congratulations cloverworks, you've done it again
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May 1, 2021 9:25 AM
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KuroNekoAlchemy said:
I'm literally shaking and gritting my teeth right now, congratulations cloverworks, you've done it again


what do you mean by this? that's a vague statement.
May 1, 2021 9:34 AM
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After seeing recent episode of Shadows House, I'm convinced studio cloverworks should never be allowed to produce an anime adaptation again
May 1, 2021 10:04 AM
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Oujo_chan said:
After seeing recent episode of Shadows House, I'm convinced studio cloverworks should never be allowed to produce an anime adaptation again


nice job literally copy pasting other people's tweets
May 1, 2021 10:09 AM
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KuroNekoAlchemy said:
I'm literally shaking and gritting my teeth right now, congratulations cloverworks, you've done it again


Haha, it's trending on JP Twitter... (it's currently at number 9 I believe...)

May 1, 2021 10:25 AM
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Man... Barbie is a bitch for sure. Blaming the dolls for no reason. Sure they can be clumsy at times but really they don't treat them well.
Emilico on the other hand is just pure adorableness. She's so cheerful and full of positivity. I like Shaun's character quite a lot. Totally chill and do what he needs to do. Rum has a gentle character. All three of them haven't slept in three days, they really need rest at this point. But, she's getting along fine with everyone. But, damn that house is creepy.
May 1, 2021 10:30 AM
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Cloverworks will see a totally acceptable manga, and then decide they want to tear it apart and attempt to make it their own only to fail miserably every time. I can only hope that from here on they decide they decide to not skip out on entire characters that become important later on in the series...
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May 1, 2021 10:31 AM
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I'm loving this show so much, this is being heavily slept on. Surprise of the season, for me
May 1, 2021 10:43 AM
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Cloverworks will see a totally acceptable manga, and then decide they want to tear it apart and attempt to make it their own only to fail miserably every time. I can only hope that from here on they decide they decide to not skip out on entire characters that become crucial later on in the series...


Yeah, ngl I feel vindicated for saying at episode 1 that there were already red flags.

As someone who is caught up in the manga, character omission is not as brutal as say, Yuugo from TPN. Nothing will hurt as bad as that omission. But I just don't see any logical reason why they would do it here. Especially when they've pretty much followed the manga well so far. It's just mind-boggling that someone would suggest this as an acceptable idea.

So to conclude, it's not as "end of the world as the omission of Yuugo and Goldy Pond" for me, but this cut content needs to stop right NOW. If they stay on track till the end of the season and follow the manga, I will not be as harsh as I could be.
May 1, 2021 10:48 AM
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This episode is quite fun, but it's very dark (visually) that after finished watching it, my eyes hurt when I return to normal screen brightness.
May 1, 2021 10:53 AM
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I'm guessing that they don't wanna make other seasons and continue the story, but getting rid of an important character?? I feel really annoyed at Cloverworks rn. They were doing a good job up until now (except that intro of episode 1). I have no idea where they want to take this plot to by revealing things too early, omitting scenes and just straight up removing characters.

Anyways, I'm looking forward to the debut arc and hoping that they at least don't fuck this up.
May 1, 2021 11:03 AM
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Another mysterious episode.

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May 1, 2021 11:04 AM

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I don't understand what everyone else is talking about.. did they do a TPN S2 thingy? but i find the episode to be pretty great and mysterious.. god i wish i could binge watch it..
i love how its Kate who narrates the preview the next episode title xD
May 1, 2021 11:06 AM

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Oh, so they changed the events in this episode. This could mean that the anime won't reach that specific part in the manga.




May 1, 2021 11:06 AM

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I feel like this is a hidden treasure this season. Nice episode.
May 1, 2021 11:06 AM

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God, that Barbie irritates me and everyone else for sure
Good to see Emilico making new friends too (≧◡≦)
The Shadows House is creeping me out more and more, traps for those trying to get out? Wth
Well, case solved! And I'm still wondering, what's the debut?


Huh? Cloverworks did it again? Personally, I found the ep very entertaining... 0.0
I hope they don't make another TPN S2
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Clas1ck said:

Huh? Cloverworks did it again? Personally, I found the ep very entertaining... 0.0
I hope they don't make another TPN S2

Again? How TPN S2 was Cloverworks's fault?
May 1, 2021 11:13 AM

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Barbie really has a harsh personality. Stubborn as hell.
And we got Emilico with the Sherlock Holmes detective skills.


“You yourself have to change first, or nothing will change for you!”
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May 1, 2021 11:15 AM
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If only I haven't already read the manga, I would still love this episode.
Sadly, this is probably the only anime season we get. Why, CloverWorks? -_-
May 1, 2021 11:16 AM
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DukeofWalton said:
G1llies said:
Cloverworks will see a totally acceptable manga, and then decide they want to tear it apart and attempt to make it their own only to fail miserably every time. I can only hope that from here on they decide they decide to not skip out on entire characters that become crucial later on in the series...


Yeah, ngl I feel vindicated for saying at episode 1 that there were already red flags.

As someone who is caught up in the manga, character omission is not as brutal as say, Yuugo from TPN. Nothing will hurt as bad as that omission. But I just don't see any logical reason why they would do it here. Especially when they've pretty much followed the manga well so far. It's just mind-boggling that someone would suggest this as an acceptable idea.

So to conclude, it's not as "end of the world as the omission of Yuugo and Goldy Pond" for me, but this cut content needs to stop right NOW. If they stay on track till the end of the season and follow the manga, I will not be as harsh as I could be.

Honestly I was hella confused when I watched this chapter, but it really seems like they cut the character out. I'm really worried now since that probably means the anime either is going to end early, or it will have a different story than the manga.
May 1, 2021 11:18 AM
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Very good episode, looking forward to seeing where the secrets of this house will take us !
May 1, 2021 11:20 AM

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Zanbaka said:
DukeofWalton said:


Yeah, ngl I feel vindicated for saying at episode 1 that there were already red flags.

As someone who is caught up in the manga, character omission is not as brutal as say, Yuugo from TPN. Nothing will hurt as bad as that omission. But I just don't see any logical reason why they would do it here. Especially when they've pretty much followed the manga well so far. It's just mind-boggling that someone would suggest this as an acceptable idea.

So to conclude, it's not as "end of the world as the omission of Yuugo and Goldy Pond" for me, but this cut content needs to stop right NOW. If they stay on track till the end of the season and follow the manga, I will not be as harsh as I could be.

Honestly I was hella confused when I watched this chapter, but it really seems like they cut the character out. I'm really worried now since that probably means the anime either is going to end early, or it will have a different story than the manga.


yeah, its just like tpn2. First eps fine, then suddenly major character gets removed and anime goes original route. Can't wait for epic slideshow in the last episode.
May 1, 2021 11:24 AM

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Clas1ck said:
Sondfer said:

Again? How TPN S2 was Cloverworks's fault?

I'm not saying it's their fault, but technically they're the ones who produced it 0.0


im not falling for this not their fault bs again, its the 3rd anime they butchered in a row
May 1, 2021 11:30 AM

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Clover works and butchering horror/Sci fi manga series, name a better duo. They really skipping over important characters and events yet again. I really don’t understand why they think this shit is a good idea. The manga is good on its own, it doesn’t need your revision.
May 1, 2021 11:33 AM
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KuroNekoAlchemy said:
Clas1ck said:

I'm not saying it's their fault, but technically they're the ones who produced it 0.0


im not falling for this not their fault bs again, its the 3rd anime they butchered in a row

Yeah, because they're like "hey, lets cut this content just to piss off fans, not because we are contracted to adapt this number of volumes in this number of episodes".
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Wonder Egg, but they just blew it

Again, how it's their fault? If you have a problem with a story - Original Creator is Shinji Nojima.
May 1, 2021 11:33 AM

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Well based off the comments in this thread, it seems like this might turn into another TPN S2? Idk, I haven't read the manga so I don't know who or what was cut out, so this episode was still enjoyable for me. If this does end up like TPN S2, then that's a shame. Tf is going on over there at Cloverworks......
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May 1, 2021 11:37 AM
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Seriously, I'm still dumbfound. That character is one of my most favorite in Shadows House. If it does go with anime original ending then I do hope that they should at least give them some spotlight they deserve!
May 1, 2021 11:41 AM

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Yep, no one trifles with the obnoxious Star Bearer Barbie.

As much as Emilico wants to lend a hand, the situation of the Living Dolls isn't as easy as come-and-go, and every Living Doll's personality is tied to the Shadow master they're working for.

The night duty with failure dolls Emilico, Shaun and Rum for over a week sure is taxing both physically and mentally. But Shaun's idea of sleeping outside is ingenious since they're literally locked out of their rooms at night time. And Run getting lost and captured by the Scorches

To follow the similar formatting of Promised Neverland to cut the significant Veiled Doll character out in certain spots, this is the fear of going TPN Season 2 all over again (though not as bad as how Yuugo was cut out), and adding anime-original scenes won't help to divulge this one if too much is done the same way as TPN.

Fingers crossed for at least a good adaptation.
May 1, 2021 11:58 AM

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They just eliminated an important character....
May 1, 2021 12:04 PM
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So we now finally have all the names of dolls: Emilico, Shaun, Lou, Ricky, and Rum, in the order of the ending. However, we still don't know the name of the masters of Shaun, Lou, Ricky and Rum so far. Interesting. Also, looking at the comments above, it seems that an important character to the plot was removed. I am not sure how to feel about that since I haven't read the manga. So, I guess for now it's fine for me the way it's going. Here's to hoping that it doesn't skip at a huge pace similar to TPN S2. I am absolutely loving it so far, and hope that it continues the same way.

4/5 episode.
May 1, 2021 12:07 PM

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So, should we call them ClobberWorks from now on?

#ClobberWorks
May 1, 2021 12:09 PM

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oh great, cloverwork deleting another character yet again.

my only guess they went in this direction because they didn't know robe had voice change since it was quite recently in manga to know who it was and how they disguised it. basically the chapter didn't make it in time with the production, though that's an easy fix by just asking the writer itself.

or they don't plan on making season 2, but that doesn't excuse not having robe since it's only this episode that will have in effect and won't be brought up until the reveal.

not as detrimental as deleting yugo, but my god they always cut certain details.
May 1, 2021 12:09 PM

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Uh, what exactly is wrong with this episode? It was by far my favorite one so far
May 1, 2021 12:11 PM

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oh great, cloverwork deleting another character yet again.

my only guess they went in this direction because they didn't know robe had voice change since it was quite recently in manga to know who it was and how they disguised it. basically the chapter didn't make it in time with the production, though that's an easy fix by just asking the writer itself.

or they don't plan on making season 2, but that doesn't excuse not having robe since it's only this episode that will have in effect and won't be brought up until the reveal.

not as detrimental as deleting yugo, but my god they always cut certain details.


that's such a dumb excuse, just give them a weird voice or something
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It's just so bizarre since they adapted these chapters pretty well for the most part. everything felt fine to me...except for the cut character.

I don't think we'll get a slideshow ending, but I'm also not going to delude myself again like in TPS S2, with me thinking "W-well, I'm SURE Yuugo will be in episode 4, r-right?"

I'm not going to go overboard and say that the cut character will wreck the series, but I just can't comprehend why they did this. For all those saying that this decision will mean there won't be a season 2, honestly I didn't expect a season 2 from the get-go. Hell, I'm surprised this is getting an anime at all, considering how few people know about it. seemed like making an anime in the first place is a bit of a gamble.
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Did they really cut an important character? I didn't have a problem with this episode. I hope they won't pull another neverland.
May 1, 2021 12:17 PM
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oh great, cloverwork deleting another character yet again.

my only guess they went in this direction because they didn't know robe had voice change since it was quite recently in manga to know who it was and how they disguised it. basically the chapter didn't make it in time with the production, though that's an easy fix by just asking the writer itself.

or they don't plan on making season 2, but that doesn't excuse not having robe since it's only this episode that will have in effect and won't be brought up until the reveal.

not as detrimental as deleting yugo, but my god they always cut certain details.


yeah, and tbh, I thought the Robe-sama's entrance in that room was a guaranteed cliffhanger to this episode. I thought, back when the anime premiered, surely they'll end an episode with Robe-sama's hand clinging to the curtain, and it'll be a shocking/scary moment to get people psyched for the next episode. It felt like such an obvious cliffhanger part in the manga that the fact that they'd not include it at all was unthinkable. guess with anime these days, especially after TPS S2, anything is possible, no matter how unfathomably retarded.
May 1, 2021 12:22 PM
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COME ON GUYS, DON'T START COMPLAINING YET. I'm a manga reader myself BTW. LET'S SEE WHAT WE GOT FOR THE NEXT EPISODE. IF THEY REALLY CUT ............. THE STORY GONNA BE WEIRD AND MEANINGLESS. PLUS WE STILL HAVE THE BROKEN COFFE THINGY ON THE ED AND OP. we still got hope. THEY MIGHT JUST REARRANGE SOME EVENT TO MAKE CUT THE EPISODE NICELY.
May 1, 2021 12:24 PM

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lol, yes yes, lemme remove an important plot point real quick.
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COME ON GUYS, DON'T START COMPLAINING YET. I'm a manga reader myself BTW. LET'S SEE WHAT WE GOT FOR THE NEXT EPISODE. IF THEY REALLY CUT ............. THE STORY GONNA BE WEIRD AND MEANINGLESS. PLUS WE STILL HAVE THE BROKEN COFFE THINGY ON THE ED AND OP. we still got hope. THEY MIGHT JUST REARRANGE SOME EVENT TO MAKE CUT THE EPISODE NICELY.


"Don't worry folks! Yuugo is just outside the bunker hunting or something! He'll be in the next episode!"

.....Nah, I mean I see you're point. I'd never drop the series because of this, but it's just frustrating since they're following the manga almost word-by-word for the most part, so it makes this omission that much more jarring. we'll see. I'm still stoked to see the "debut." Wonder what Kate's line meant at the ending, tho? I don't recall her saying that in the manga...
May 1, 2021 12:49 PM
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ChloeVonEinzbern said:
So, should we call them ClobberWorks from now on?

#ClobberWorks


More like, CloverWrecks.
May 1, 2021 12:55 PM
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Fuck CLoverworks, and whoever is behind the decision to butcher this. This was supposed to be one of those series that leave a mark.
May 1, 2021 1:00 PM

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Nice episode am enjoying the mystery aspect of it
May 1, 2021 1:23 PM

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ChloeVonEinzbern said:
So, should we call them ClobberWorks from now on?

#ClobberWorks


More like, CloverWrecks.
ClobberWorks sounds better because they are clobbering each anime they adapt.
May 1, 2021 1:41 PM

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I didn't know Shadows House had these many manga readers till today.
May 1, 2021 2:03 PM

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BunnyBaronBarma said:
or they don't plan on making season 2, but that doesn't excuse not having robe since it's only this episode that will have in effect and won't be brought up until the reveal.


I was under the impression that "being only in this episode and not being brought up again until the reveal" (which won't happen in the anime because there is no way they will reach that point with the current pacing) is precisely the reason they were removed.
May 1, 2021 2:08 PM
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OMG you guys there was one scene change ONE, its way to early to jump to conclusions. Cloverworks is an excellent studio, stop jumping to early conclusions. It's episode 4 for goodness sake.
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Manga readers coming out of the woodwork.

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