| Major and side characters dying makes a story better and more realistic, especially something like Attack on Titan. |
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| "Clannad fanboys want to know your location" |
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Nurguburu said: Hey, keeping alive your characters doesn't make your story good Quite true. Everything must be judged by looking at circumstances of either killing a character in anime/manga or keeping him/her alive. |
| Excessively? It gets repetitive. A tragedy is probably the easiest way to invoke emotion but if it gets used a bunch, then it will get old. |
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| AoT is actually a very good example about how not to do it, from what is adapted thus far we only have a single example of a somewhat relevant character dying and they milked the shit out if it for ''muh feels''. The rest are all irrelevant non-characters. |
DBZisUnderrated said: A story where it's inevitable there'll be death is a good story. There are titans fml...I'm very glad that people are starting to notice the facade Attack on Titan puts on. Most of the major characters don't die, could anybody name at least three major characters that die? At first glance, it looks like the series has a lot of deaths, but I can't even name three characters that have died. Maybe one or two. If a story just kills characters in a show that could still be the same without any deaths is what he means. Also, characters die for other character's developments. Here are two examples: A) The character is fully-fleshed with connection to more than just the plot or a character, they personally helped to progress the story and characters for multiple episodes and their death did something that helped the protagonist get closer to their goal, or their death gave a clue. B) The character is the protagonist's sibling, you meet them for one episode and learn basically nothing apart from them being their sibling; they get killed for shock value. Which one doesn't sound bad? |
BunilleNov 3, 2020 1:42 PM
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| Yes, I totally agree with this, Isayama needs to step up his game. |
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Nillwas said: @Tarotsu. How can it be a insult when it's the truth? Fairy Tail is rainbow, sparkles and glitter. Even if the show has a death the chance that he or she is coming back to life is way to damn high. There are no real darkness in the show and it dosen't fit as a battle Shounen to be this ridiculous happy shunshine Anime. If that's not a problem I don't know what is. I'm just saying that Fail Tail is so commonly used by critics of the series. Or Fanservice Tail or Fairy Fail. And I do agree. Fairy Tail just lacks the stakes of a proper narrative. It has way too many death flags but the author is too cowardly to follow through with them. There are no consequences that can't be fixed by a random deus ex machina. I still like it for whatever reason. Maybe it's just the characters (save for the main cast). |
SmordolaNov 3, 2020 2:51 PM
| YEAH! ONE PIECE! |
MissHeedNov 4, 2020 10:12 AM
| The AoT "killing characters" was overrated, spoiler tag added |
CareBearNov 5, 2020 12:43 AM
| Хайде, хайде, хайде, това е първата зона, брато, първа зона, първа зона, добре, добре, добре, това става тук горе, отива тук горе, само спокойно, само спокойно... Ха, отдясно е, навсякъде отдясно отдясно къде е дясното ти о да добре добре добре тихо мълчаливо не успях да се съсредоточа върху това ЕХ ТЪПАК КОГАТО СИ БАВНО БАВНО ... ой е путката на моето момиче прасе куче, аз Чувствам се добре, о, мамо, *шамар*, какво е това госпожице татко- |
| I mean yeah that's why the akame GA kill anime sucks but imagine summarizing attack on Titan to just "dUde cHaRaCtEr's dIe" lol. |
AwokenStroken said: I just can't get into something like Attack on Titan, but it kind baffles my noggin when people say "dUde cHaRaCtEr's dIe". It's just my opinion, but I feel like killing characters is the laziest way to evoke an emotion within the viewer/reader. It's okay if you disagree, I'm not trying to bash you or your favorite show. I just want to enjoy the journey with ALL the characters! Might be the laziest way, but it certainly doesn't mean that authors shouldn't kill characters anyway. AoT revolves around battling Titans. People gonna die. You never know who's gonna die, when and how. Hence, people die. People you thought wouldn't die, die, at surprising times and in various ways. It adds an atmosphere of realism to the story. It would feel fake if characters didn't die. The amount of deaths in AoT is actually a truthful number. |
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Excalibur1702 said: It would feel fake if characters didn't die. The amount of deaths in AoT is actually a truthful number. It would also feel fake if the main characters don't die. |
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AwokenStroken said: Order-Sol said: YEAH! ONE PIECE! KILLING ????? FOR NO REASON ONE PIECE! Can you add a spoiler tag much appreciated :) But he didn't said who's gonna die right?Every shounen battle anime someone's got to die.Even in mha someone dies. |
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Scordolo said: Excalibur1702 said: It would feel fake if characters didn't die. The amount of deaths in AoT is actually a truthful number. It would also feel fake if the main characters don't die. That is one of my issues with AoT, the plot armour in the initial portion of the story. It isn't that bad though, but I get what you mean. |
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DBZisUnderrated said: I'm very glad that people are starting to notice the facade Attack on Titan puts on. Most of the major characters don't die, could anybody name at least three major characters that die? At first glance, it looks like the series has a lot of deaths, but I can't even name three characters that have died. Maybe one or two. Manga Spoilers: There are plenty of major characters that die... |
agree with this! especially since he was replaced by someone who basically has the exact same role that he did |
| Y-yeah it does like in the anime AR(actual reality) people died everyday but it's other that died not us so it's definitely good right now |
| "Rating are for Casul" "While masterpiece are for Pleb" "But shit taste is enlightenment" "Go watch School Days you Weebs" |
| Who says that's what makes AoT good? |
| You are not your body, you are your brain, the "self" that emerges from within it. |
| HyperL said: Who says that's what makes AoT good? No one. OP seem to basically be straw-manning |
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| maybe not but it sure makes fans go surprised pikachu face everytime. oh and by thge way. i agree completely. this is one of the reasons i dont like clannad after story and all that. |
| That's not what SnK is popular for but whatever |
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| "I just want to enjoy the journey with ALL the characters!" *One Piece Theme Plays* Alright I'll be honest. Killing characters does make the story better. As an edgelord I deny your claim. |
| I bet you like fairy tail then, no hate but I can't stand "happy" endings. Imagine all the shows and their story without dead characters, Story needs that to happen, authors doing it well, except for It was awfully bad and I can't see a reason why the author did that. Anime/Manga needs drama, When you starting to love/like a character and they are killing him, That makes you feel sad and uncomfortable. Imagine all anime without the deaths of characters. If you watched Ashita No Joe, Just think how the story would have been gone If no deaths. Idk how can someone say "laziest way" about the Deaths of characters? For me, the Laziest way to develop a story is to keep all characters alive, No drama, no emotion, nothing really worth to watch. That's why I hate fairy tail and That's why I think MHA is childish compared to OG shonen jumps. That's why Naruto is so great, cos the author didn't fear to kill characters and the audience's hearts. Anime without drama = TRASH. I'm not saying that death is necessary, But drama is necessary for every anime, Not saying about that Kawaii mediocre Animes, But when it comes to Attack On titan alike anime/mangas. yes, IT NEEDS DRAMA. I can't even imagine AOT without deaths and etc. It would have been the most cringiest anime of all time. Imagine titans attacking people and no one dies lmao. main characters can easily defeat them without loss! Well, I can't stand animes like that so.... If they are killing characters meaninglessly then okay I can see what you were saying. |
BrawlerJoeNov 3, 2020 11:56 PM
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| Who said it does? If you are meaninglessly killing characters, of course your story wouldn't be good. But there's actually substance behind the killings, then it definitely has the ability to make the story great and compelling. |
| It depends if it’s like SAO Aincrad when they kill people for shock factor an episode after they were introduced. If it’s something like , then it’s one of the better deaths. |
DBZisUnderrated said: I'm very glad that people are starting to notice the facade Attack on Titan puts on. Most of the major characters don't die, could anybody name at least three major characters that die? At first glance, it looks like the series has a lot of deaths, but I can't even name three characters that have died. Maybe one or two. S1 - S3P2 I know some of these aren't major, but there is quite a few characters that still go out. But I get your point, then again, who would want AOT to suddenly turn into Akame ga kill |
NextUniverse said: DBZisUnderrated said: I'm very glad that people are starting to notice the facade Attack on Titan puts on. Most of the major characters don't die, could anybody name at least three major characters that die? At first glance, it looks like the series has a lot of deaths, but I can't even name three characters that have died. Maybe one or two. S1 - S3P2 I know some of these aren't major, but there is quite a few characters that still go out. But I get your point, then again, who would want AOT to suddenly turn into Akame ga kill Yea, but AOT was trying to give out this Walking Dead, Game of Thrones "nobody is safe!" vibe but when I really started to think about it, the main cast, characters that get the most screentime (not villains) never get killed. And if they do, it's rare. |
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DBZisUnderrated said: I'm very glad that people are starting to notice the facade Attack on Titan puts on. Most of the major characters don't die, could anybody name at least three major characters that die? At first glance, it looks like the series has a lot of deaths, but I can't even name three characters that have died. Maybe one or two. Mhh let's see Sasha,hanji,Erwin,Ymir,Berthold,Marco,The Levi Squad is arguably part of the major characters, So yeah all in all calling attack on titans approach to consequences a facade is delusional at best spoiler tag added |
CareBearNov 4, 2020 10:48 PM
Tarotsu said: Nillwas said: @Tarotsu. How can it be a insult when it's the truth? Fairy Tail is rainbow, sparkles and glitter. Even if the show has a death the chance that he or she is coming back to life is way to damn high. There are no real darkness in the show and it dosen't fit as a battle Shounen to be this ridiculous happy shunshine Anime. If that's not a problem I don't know what is. I'm just saying that Fail Tail is so commonly used by critics of the series. Or Fanservice Tail or Fairy Fail. And I do agree. Fairy Tail just lacks the stakes of a proper narrative. It has way too many death flags but the author is too cowardly to follow through with them. There are no consequences that can't be fixed by a random deus ex machina. I still like it for whatever reason. Maybe it's just the characters (save for the main cast). My favourite part is when laxus sucks up a lot of toxic smoke to safe everybody , effectively sacraficing himself. And then he doesn't die and the only explanation you get is characters being like " lol how is he not dead ? Well we don't know either lmao " The thing worse then not having stakes is when a story pretends to have stakes but is to afraid to actually deliver on it |
| A show has to keep the balance, if you don't kill characters the fear of the main cast dying will get lower, if you kill too many the characters may or may not get their arc cut of. But in general when i want to watch a show that creates good drama without the factor of death i would not watch a action/fighting show, if i watch a show like that there should be at least some chance the characters could die. Attack on Titan is more on the side of not killing characters, like many of its battle Shounen buddies it protects its main cast from any sort of potential death which in the case of Attack on Titan really weakens the narrative and believability. Its one of the best example of how not to handle it in my opinion. |
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