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Oct 11, 2020 9:38 AM
#1
| People are rating every show these year too fast, as if they only judge shows by it's synopsis rather than waiting for the shows to build their foundation. A lot of the shows now don't even have an episode three, what happened to the third episode rule? I know MAL scores don't matter to a lot of old watchers, but what about the new ones who don't know how to critique shows yet? They use the scores right now as a basis. A lot of potential for Ikebukuro of the West Gate Park, Kami-sama ni Natta ni, and Noblesse but people will just ignore them since they have really low scores. Edit: I'm cringing at this three years later |
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Oct 11, 2020 9:42 AM
#2
| I rate the shows I watch as soon as the first episode exactly because I like seeing how my score changes I'd say if people had a genuine interest in watching noblesse for example before it aired, then the score is not gonna make much of a difference (or at least it shouldn't) And the three episode rule was dumb anyways and not an official thing anyone has to follow, just sounds like you're complaining about something that's not that big of an issue dude |
ConnesOct 11, 2020 10:28 AM
Oct 11, 2020 9:43 AM
#3
| Why do you even care about other people's scores? |
Oct 11, 2020 9:43 AM
#4
| As a veteran of anime you learn to ignore the scores and just watch that interests you. I do agree that giving a score after only watching a few episodes is a bit hasty, but that is the gaming and anime community for you. I doubt the top 10 highest rated anime will change anytime soon regardless of what releases or how good it may be. |
Oct 11, 2020 9:44 AM
#5
TheWeebtooner said: People are rating every show these year too fast, as if they only judge shows by it's synopsis rather than waiting for the shows to build their foundation. A lot of the shows now don't even have an episode three, what happened to the third episode rule? I know MAL scores don't matter to a lot of old watchers, but what about the new ones who don't know how to critique shows yet? They use the scores right now as a basis. A lot of potential for Ikebukuro of the West Gate Park, Kami-sama ni Matt's ni, and Noblesse but people will just ignore them since they have really low scores. That's the bummer about everyone having a certain level of individual freedom, isn't it? They can just do whatever they want. Lol. Sorry for the flippant opener there, chum, but I find the argument to be a silly one. If a show is actually good (or rather considered good) then that will be represented in the general consensus and it's score will reflect that over time. But score, well...score isn't everything. There's no such thing as a "3 episode rule" either. I drop a show when it ceases to entertain me or I arrive at the conclusion it is either dogshit or simply not for me. There is no arbitrary requirement on the number of episodes it takes me to arrive at my conclusion. The only exception I ever made to that was for "Death Note", sat through the whole bloody thing, and I've learned my lesson. Turns out that it's a great example of a show rated exceptionally well but that is in fact garbage, proving my earlier point about score not being everything. |
CallMeHootOct 11, 2020 10:38 AM
Oct 11, 2020 9:47 AM
#6
| how dared they? yeah, totally agree, you should rate an anime only after you write a detailed report on it and you have to score at least 75 points in order to pass. Anyone who wants to rate Evangelion, Noein and Rahxephon should send me the reports to analyse them, for I am an expert, all ecchi anime reports go to Manaban etc |
Oct 11, 2020 9:47 AM
#7
SuicideMaster said: Why do you even care about other people's scores? I think op already addressed that. A busy person with a job or a college student might not have all the time in the world to watch anime. So there is a convenient source called "score" to judge, if they wanna watch the anime or not. Can't believe people still call scores irrelevant. A high scoring anime has more chance of getting a good viewership. Hope you understand. |
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Oct 11, 2020 9:52 AM
#8
| "People stop having opinions that I disagree with. You can only say good things about what I like." Just accept people think the things you like suck and move on. |
Oct 11, 2020 9:54 AM
#9
| Who cares? If the show becomes good after a shitty first impression, the score will rise. Shows like ACCA 13 come to mind, which had below 7 after that boring first episode. |
Oct 11, 2020 10:06 AM
#10
Animaniaig said: "People stop having opinions that I disagree with. You can only say good things about what I like." Just accept people think the things you like suck and move on. That's not what op was talking about at all. You should read it again. Anyway, honestly, I never understood why people rate anime(or any show) without completing it unless it's a long, on-going anime. Speaking for myself, many anime tend to get worse or meh even if they had great starts and vice versa, so I don't really rate them until they are finished. But, you can't do anything about it. MAL has been like this for years. Some fans will rate anime adaptations very high just because they read the manga, some rely on the 1st ep impressions for some reason, others will just rate it higher for the sake of making the anime have high scores, etc. You just have to accept it tbh. |
Oct 11, 2020 10:17 AM
#11
CallMeHoot said: TheWeebtooner said: People are rating every show these year too fast, as if they only judge shows by it's synopsis rather than waiting for the shows to build their foundation. A lot of the shows now don't even have an episode three, what happened to the third episode rule? I know MAL scores don't matter to a lot of old watchers, but what about the new ones who don't know how to critique shows yet? They use the scores right now as a basis. A lot of potential for Ikebukuro of the West Gate Park, Kami-sama ni Matt's ni, and Noblesse but people will just ignore them since they have really low scores. That's the bummer about everyone having a certain level of individual freedom, isn't it? They can just do whatever they want. Lol. Sorry for the flippant opener there, chum, but I find the argument to be a silly one. If a show is actually good (or rather considered good) then that will be represented in the general consensus it's score will reflect that over time. But score, well...score isn't everything. There's no such thing as a "3 episode rule" either. I drop a show when it ceases to entertain me or I arrive at the conclusion it is either dogshit or simply not for me. There is no arbitrary requirement on the number of episodes it takes me to arrive at my conclusion. The only exception I ever made to that was for "Death Note", sat through the whole bloody thing, and I've learned my lesson. Turns out that it's a great example of a show rated exceptionally well but that is in fact garbage, proving my earlier point about score not being everything. A 1000 times this. I rate shows based on my MY level of entertainment. Ill tell you right now I gave Nobelesse a 5 because I found it to be just dull and there's no point in me continuing to watch it. |
Oct 11, 2020 10:19 AM
#12
| what the fuck you gonna do about it if I do lmao stfu |
animegirl2533Oct 11, 2020 11:48 AM
Oct 11, 2020 10:21 AM
#13
| noooo people don't like shows i like and are being mean to them noooo |
Oct 11, 2020 10:23 AM
#14
| Yeah sure, it's not like they can't change the score later on. |
Oct 11, 2020 10:28 AM
#15
| 3 episodes rule is stupid. It's really okay to rate anime after one episode, but it's not okay to drop every different type of anime only because of that stupid rule. |
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Oct 11, 2020 10:28 AM
#16
| I think it's the people who may dismiss a show because of its low rating who should change. |
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Oct 11, 2020 10:29 AM
#17
| Yeah what about the people who give a score before ep 1 even airs? |
Oct 11, 2020 10:29 AM
#18
mono_mer said: This guy knows what I mean to say, If the anime I like gets a low score, the reason I get upset isn't because people aren't agreeing with me, it's because a lot of new people will only notice the ones with high scores and wont try the ones with a low scoreSuicideMaster said: Why do you even care about other people's scores? I think op already addressed that. A busy person with a job or a college student might not have all the time in the world to watch anime. So there is a convenient source called "score" to judge, if they wanna watch the anime or not. Can't believe people still call scores irrelevant. A high scoring anime has more chance of getting a good viewership. Hope you understand. |
Oct 11, 2020 10:30 AM
#19
DaijoubuKirameki said: Yeah what about the people who give a score before ep 1 even airs? These kinds of people should have a special place in Hell. |
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Oct 11, 2020 10:30 AM
#20
wape said: Yeah, but would they bother to actually do so?Yeah sure, it's not like they can't change the score later on. |
Oct 11, 2020 10:31 AM
#21
Dolabella said: No that's not what I mean by saying thisnoooo people don't like shows i like and are being mean to them noooo |
Oct 11, 2020 10:33 AM
#22
| Jfl @ people who keep making drama over this shit |
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Oct 11, 2020 10:34 AM
#23
Oct 11, 2020 10:37 AM
#24
| haha i cant read, also YES lets revolt against the EVIL mods and add cartoons to mal ..so whats the plan einstein? |
Oct 11, 2020 10:45 AM
#25
TheWeebtooner said: They have to update the entry from "watching" to "completed" one day, and within that time they would also need to update the score as they like, which takes roughly 2 1/2 seconds to actually do so. To me that doesn't seem like a nuisance of any kind.wape said: Yeah, but would they bother to actually do so?Yeah sure, it's not like they can't change the score later on. |
Oct 11, 2020 10:48 AM
#26
Spektrum9 said: Anyway, honestly, I never understood why people rate anime(or any show) without completing it unless it's a long, on-going anime. I don't need to eat a whole bucket of shit to know that what I'm eating is shit. That first spoonful usually tells me all I need to know. That's a generalisation, of course. I try and give every show I watch a fair chance, but if it doesn't grip me for whatever reason or commits some fairly heinous mistakes early on (for example, episodes 2 & 3 of Re:Creators are DIRE pieces of work because they are mostly static art/pointless background scenes with incredibly boring exposition dump voice over) then I'm gonna give it a subpar rating and drop it. This is because my time is finite and I'm not gonna waste 3 evenings getting through something that is shit just so I can "rate it in good conscience" on MAL for the benefit of Jimmy Rando who incidentally doesn't give a fuck what I think anyway. |
Oct 11, 2020 11:02 AM
#27
| U should not care about how other people rate their anime its their list they can rate however they want to i have seen many people who rate every show 2-3 in their list and they think they look very cool and different its just cringe Just watch it so u can determine if the show is good or bad yourself everyone has different tastes so there is a huge chance that u hate an anime someone enjoyed or the other way so no need to blame people for rating an anime low that they could not enjoy |
Erwin_DanchouOct 11, 2020 11:06 AM
Oct 11, 2020 11:07 AM
#28
| well, changing scores are a great way to see people's immediate (live) reaction to anime. I think MAL write quarterly articles about score evolution of particular episodes. And the rating...? It doesn't matter for all I care. Its range is 5.8-9.1 in most cases, so every anime here is actually... good? |
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Oct 11, 2020 11:08 AM
#29
TheWeebtooner said: People are rating every show these year too fast, as if they only judge shows by it's synopsis rather than waiting for the shows to build their foundation. A lot of the shows now don't even have an episode three, what happened to the third episode rule? I know MAL scores don't matter to a lot of old watchers, but what about the new ones who don't know how to critique shows yet? They use the scores right now as a basis. A lot of potential for Ikebukuro of the West Gate Park, Kami-sama ni Natta ni, and Noblesse but people will just ignore them since they have really low scores. U mad we rated this show too fast? |
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Oct 11, 2020 11:11 AM
#30
CallMeHoot said: Spektrum9 said: Anyway, honestly, I never understood why people rate anime(or any show) without completing it unless it's a long, on-going anime. I don't need to eat a whole bucket of shit to know that what I'm eating is shit. That first spoonful usually tells me all I need to know. That's a generalisation, of course. I try and give every show I watch a fair chance, but if it doesn't grip me for whatever reason or commits some fairly heinous mistakes early on (for example, episodes 2 & 3 of Re:Creators are DIRE pieces of work because they are mostly static art/pointless background scenes with incredibly boring exposition dump voice over) then I'm gonna give it a subpar rating and drop it. This is because my time is finite and I'm not gonna waste 3 evenings getting through something that is shit just so I can "rate it in good conscience" on MAL for the benefit of Jimmy Rando who incidentally doesn't give a fuck what I think anyway. I understand. If you know this is a show you're not going to like then dropping it is fair and square, but I wasn't talking about dropping. I meant people who rate any show early with the intent of watching the whole thing. |
Oct 11, 2020 11:21 AM
#31
| It's a nice thought, but I'm afraid it's unrealistic... Even if, like myself, you wait till the end of the anime (or at least watching a few episodes until you really can't stand to watch it anymore...)... How many people actually give well thought out ratings? I know myself, I do 1 of 4 things: 1: Don't vote 2: Give it a 10 if I enjoyed it 3: Give it a 5 if I watched it fully- since it managed to hold my interest 4: Give it a 1 if I couldn't even manage to finish it. I know that's a poor way of scoring- I have on occasion tried to give a proper "score", but frankly... I just want to watch a show and move on- I don't have time to really think out how "good" it was :P The score system was bound to fail the moment it took every single vote into account- since a large amount of them have little to no thought behind them. |
Oct 11, 2020 11:40 AM
#32
| lol.. Newbies rating shows before they can actually watch it. |
Oct 11, 2020 11:55 AM
#33
TheWeebtooner said: People are rating every show these year too fast, as if they only judge shows by it's synopsis rather than waiting for the shows to build their foundation. A lot of the shows now don't even have an episode three, what happened to the third episode rule? I know MAL scores don't matter to a lot of old watchers, but what about the new ones who don't know how to critique shows yet? They use the scores right now as a basis. A lot of potential for Ikebukuro of the West Gate Park, Kami-sama ni Natta ni, and Noblesse but people will just ignore them since they have really low scores. Manga readers exist. People are allowed to change their ratings any time. Some people epeen over high ratings and will rate things 10 or 1. Never between. This is another result of the my epeen is bigger than yours race. The ratings would be more accurate if we were allowed to have personal ratings from "FRIENDS ONLY". I would be happy personally black listing these fake ratings. |
Oct 11, 2020 12:04 PM
#34
I hate HATE "slice of life" anime's. They are either stupid boring, or irrelevant; but they are all unfunny. For some reason, rental girlfriend had me watching all 12 episodes or whatever. The cringe moments had me laughing, but let's be honest. I hate the story, and the idea completely. I think the edgy humor is what I liked the most. I gave it a 10. I hope they don't come out with season 2. There is no way they can keep the humor and show interesting any longer. |
Oct 11, 2020 12:11 PM
#35
| Nowadays I only rate a show after marking it as complete or dropping it. The thing is, I can tell if I'm going to enjoy a show or not by watching a few minutes, there's no way I'm following the 3-episodes rule, I simply can't waste all that time with crap anymore. About newcomers, they'll figure out that scores don't matter once they enjoy something that MAL doesn't. It shouldn't take them long. |
Oct 11, 2020 12:17 PM
#36
charliechuckle said: I hate HATE "slice of life" anime's. They are either stupid boring, or irrelevant; but they are all unfunny. For some reason, rental girlfriend had me watching all 12 episodes or whatever. The cringe moments had me laughing, but let's be honest. I hate the story, and the idea completely. I think the edgy humor is what I liked the most. I gave it a 10. I hope they don't come out with season 2. There is no way they can keep the humor and show interesting any longer. I agree. Hard to keep it up when the novelty factor already wears out. It's similar to how Madoka sequel was crap compared to the OG one when the shock factor is gone. |
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Oct 11, 2020 12:18 PM
#37
charliechuckle said: I hate HATE "slice of life" anime's. They are either stupid boring, or irrelevant; but they are all unfunny. The picture speaks for itself. The dude abides. |
Oct 11, 2020 12:22 PM
#38
TheWeebtooner said: I know MAL scores don't matter to a lot of old watchers, but what about the new ones who don't know how to critique shows yet? They use the scores right now as a basis. It's a hard life lesson we all learned in some way or another. |
Oct 11, 2020 12:26 PM
#39
| It pissed me off when a show has a rating of 5/10 after literally only one episode |
Oct 11, 2020 12:28 PM
#40
| I agree with OP on this one, It's always both hilarious and infuriating to see a new show get a crap ton of tens, Check when it aired, And find out that people rated it a 10 on the information of one or two episodes, The score is marketed and presented as the score for the whole show, Not it's first quarter. |
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Oct 11, 2020 12:32 PM
#41
| I don´t think it´s that deep. But as an "old viewer" I can tell you they´ll learn to ignore scores with time. Still I don´t get why people rate shows so early, i only rate them after i finished them or if I dropped them after watching most of it. |
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Oct 11, 2020 11:52 PM
#42
| If it were a 26-50+ episode series, I'd agree. 1-2 episodes barely suffice. But for 12 episode series, 1-3 episodes suffice for an overall series impression to give a score. Though in my case I prefer to erase it from my list completely without even a score (eg Onegai Teacher) |
Oct 12, 2020 12:27 AM
#43
Oct 12, 2020 12:31 AM
#44
| People are rating every show these year too fast, or you're just slow. as if they only judge shows by it's synopsis rather than waiting for the shows to build their foundation. I judge by the first episode. thank you. first impression matters A lot of the shows now don't even have an episode three, what happened to the third episode rule? 1. not my rule. 2. why do you think it's something universal? also that's the episode you DROP the show on, it has nothing to do with rating. I know MAL scores don't matter to a lot of old watchers, but what about the new ones who don't know how to critique shows yet? They use the scores right now as a basis. they're doing it wrong if they refuse to think for themselves. A lot of potential for Ikebukuro of the West Gate Park, has a romance tag but only men are listed as characters. not falling for yaoibait. Kami-sama ni Natta ni, looks like a generic harem+sol Noblesse source is a korean webtoon. not touching it. question is, why do you think scores are final? the last episode makes it final for me, I'll change it around as I see fit until then. |
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Oct 12, 2020 12:33 AM
#45
I make my own rules and my score is gonna fluctuate as I keep watching it from Episode 1. Episode 1 might be a 4/10, Episode 7 might be an 8/10 and I will change it as fit. you can't control anybody else's decisions. Just your own reactions. I'm just gonna sit back and laugh doe |
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Oct 12, 2020 12:41 AM
#46
| It doesn't matter if people rate shows early If they change their rating later after finishing it or watching enough.But some people watch 1 or 2 eps give a low score and drop it.Now that's stupid |
Oct 12, 2020 12:47 AM
#47
| What's wrong with early rating? A few of my trusted friends do the same, so there's an early impression on how my peers like a show. They are mostly > 60% affinity and carefully selected. I rate early as well to contribute to this view. Early voting is only problematic if it isn't based on actually watching the show, or if it isn't changed with time. But then again, arbitrary and irrational voting can happen at any time, neither early or late versions of that behavior are worse. |
Oct 12, 2020 1:02 AM
#48
Oct 12, 2020 1:04 AM
#49
| It's kinda early to judge an anime but the MAL system allows it, so there's nothing wrong... |
Oct 12, 2020 6:51 AM
#50
| "Stop rating the shows this early" - but I have opinions...and it goes without saying that those are based on the watched episodes. "I know MAL scores don't matter to a lot of old watchers, but what about the new ones who don't know how to critique shows yet?" - they will wise up or drop the media entirely...natural selection. "A lot of potential for Ikebukuro of the West Gate Park, Kami-sama ni Natta ni, and Noblesse but people will just ignore them since they have really low scores." - since you haven't completed those anime you can't claim them being good...so same goes for you. I can tell easily that those are not my cup of tea no matter of "good" or "bad". |
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