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Sep 29, 2020 4:17 AM
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what do you think could be the reasson for small number of yuri animes but there is a lot of yaoi anime what do you think about this

Sep 29, 2020 4:21 AM
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Smaller audience. Judging by the small sample of a dozen of irl friends.
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Sep 29, 2020 4:23 AM
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I dont know, but you're asking the right question.
Sep 29, 2020 4:30 AM
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Because no one really watches Yuri. Shoujo Ai is where's at.
Sep 29, 2020 4:34 AM
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because irl they are minority
so the number of people watching them is less than normal romance anime
witch means the studio wont generate much revenue from it
just keep it simple
Sep 29, 2020 5:11 AM
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assuming you strictly mean what is tagged on MAL.. yaoi and yuri always had similar numbers.. 32 vs 42 not that big diff
but most yuri are also futa, which further diminshes the "pure" yuri genre to less than a dozen ovas... although conversely, lots of hentai have yuri scenes but are rarely marketed as such >:V

and yea lesbian fiction is pretty rare in general
Sep 29, 2020 6:35 AM
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therahulplay said:
what do you think could be the reasson for small number of yuri animes but there is a lot of yaoi anime what do you think about this
Same reason as for why there is a lot more Seinen than Josei. 75% of MAL users are male. This cut holds for all demographics, and obviously gender identities too.

Sep 29, 2020 7:08 AM
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Quality over quantity? Except for Citrus.
Sep 29, 2020 7:15 AM
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Right? I see AT LEAST 1 Yaoi/Otome adaptation every single season but that isn't the case for yuri and as a yuri fan, it sucks.

At least, for the 2 upcoming seasons, we're going to get 2 yuri anime. Adachi and Shimamura for Fall 2020 and Urasekai Picnic for Winter 2021. That's 2 straight seasons and I honestly couldn't be anymore happier.
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Sep 29, 2020 7:18 AM

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I really don't know but I wouldn't mind watching yuri anime! \_( ' _ ' )_/
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Sep 29, 2020 7:46 AM
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therahulplay said:
what do you think could be the reasson for small number of yuri animes but there is a lot of yaoi anime what do you think about this



If you count BL and yaoi together, this year had a handful of movies and a hentai, last year had one TV series and a hentai, and 2018 had a TV series and some specials. That's hardly what I'd call a lot.

I want more good yuri too, but let's not act like there's a ton of yaoi/BL getting adaptations instead.
Sep 29, 2020 7:51 AM
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Honestly there needs to be way more.
Sep 29, 2020 9:13 AM

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Are we distinguishing between yuri vs. shoujo ai in this thread?

Because in general I think there are already a bunch of series involving/suggesting shipping female characters together, to varying degrees of seriousness.

Actually serious relationships are less common though.

And I haven't looked much at the yaoi/shounen-ai side of things but I don't typically see as much of that. Not sure whether it's because I pay less attention to it though.
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Sep 29, 2020 9:37 AM

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Smaller audience. More people are into softcore yuri/baits than actual yuri.


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Because no one really watches Yuri. Shoujo Ai is where's at.
Shoujo ai is more unpopular than yuri. There are like 3 shoujo ai titles that even has some presence even if it is very minimal.
Sep 29, 2020 10:33 AM

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Geel said:
inim said:
Same reason as for why there is a lot more Seinen than Josei. 75% of MAL users are male. This cut holds for all demographics, and obviously gender identities too.


Huh, maybe I'm reading this wrong, but if there's more male fans, shouldn't there be more Yuri than Yaoi?
I'm certainly not an expert and this is a slippery slope to speculate on.But here's my rationale.

A given population has a pretty constant share of homosexual individuals, How many % that are is a matter of definition and whom you believe. The ratio, however, is less speculative. Three times more males on MAL than females yields three times more male homosexual users than female. Thus the yaoi "native" market is 3 times the size of the yuri market.

Then there are those enjoying yuri/yaoi despite being of opposite gender, e.g. Fujoshi and whatever you call males enjoying yuri. It's not easy to find figures here, but according to Wikipedia the split is 50% +/- 20% depending on poll, country and so on. Very coarsely argued, this levels out and so it's good enough to look at the native market.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaoi_fandom#Demographics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_(genre)#Demographics

I admit this is all pretty hand waving and some guess work is involved. But as a rule of thumb, assuming a three times larger market size for yaoi than for yuri seems legit to me.

Sep 29, 2020 10:36 AM
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Yet there is a shit ton of Yaoi. Which is aimed for straight girls. It's the mlm fetishisation for me.
Sep 29, 2020 10:38 AM

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Guys and gals into yuri aren't as crazy as fujoshis. It's as simple as that
Sep 30, 2020 6:41 AM
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Geel said:
inim said:
Same reason as for why there is a lot more Seinen than Josei. 75% of MAL users are male. This cut holds for all demographics, and obviously gender identities too.

Huh, maybe I'm reading this wrong, but if there's more male fans, shouldn't there be more Yuri than Yaoi?

Girls love is often written for a female audience too.

Anyway, that's a myth that most anime fans are male. When I go to a con there are maybe even more female fans than male. It's maybe just true for the MAL users but not in general. And most prefer girls love hints or not too sexual relationships over actual fleshed out yuri.
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_Maneki-Neko_ said:
Geel said:
Huh, maybe I'm reading this wrong, but if there's more male fans, shouldn't there be more Yuri than Yaoi?

Girls love is often written for a female audience too. Anyway, that's a myth that most anime fans are male. When I go to a con there are maybe even more female fans than male. It's maybe just true for the MAL users but not in general. And most prefer girls love hints or not too sexual relationships over actual fleshed out yuri.
I'm not sure if con attendance equals market share. The overwhelming majority of anime releases seems to be targeted at male teenagers - somebody has to watch all those isekai harem shows, right? I'm sure market research exists, but this isn't OP's question anyway.

OP asked explicitly for the number of pornographic titles. Your point is that female pornography tends to be softer, which in MAL terms means tags shoujo ai and R+ rather than yuri and Rx. Which would explain the lack of yuri titles just perfectly.

More explicit pornography seems to be more of a male thing. At least that is my subjective perception. I have no reason to assume this is different for homo- and heterosexual males. Facts are not exactly easy to find about this subject because people consider that private, for good reasons.
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Lack of merchandise especially for a genre that's nearly equal in gender demographics. anime is made to sell merch, source material, and discs (Both home video and music CDs), however merch is more lucrative and if there's little to no potential for merch, then the chances of adaptations nosedives.


Sep 30, 2020 12:01 PM

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There really isn't that much yaoi either.
Certainly not rapey type ones anyway.
Sep 30, 2020 12:03 PM

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It exist a nice amount of Shoujo Ai / Slice of Life those is neat, we need more of those.

and yeah, why in hell do we not get 4-5 Yuri Shows each season, good question, Niklas wanna know too.

Sep 30, 2020 12:06 PM

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Wait what? Isn't it obvious lesbian anime is for guys?
Sep 30, 2020 3:05 PM
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Because no one likes yuris.......?
Sep 30, 2020 9:30 PM

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but most yuri are also futa


Hmm, yeah boi, who doesn't like some futa action eh.
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I've wondered this a lot recently. Well... like the last year or so. It seems that there is a huge amount of love for yuri within the community and the art and culture which surround anime, but in the actual shows... Well, we get a lot of yuri-bait, where the girls are "really good friends" and seem to not have boyfriends, or know any men at all, such that lesbian undertones are this constant backdrop in the show. But the amount of shows which actually follow through with lesbian romance is shockingly small.

There is definitely an audience for it. You only need to look at the community culture. So it's very strange. The best yuri show of late, and one of the best ever according to many, Bloom In To You, still hasn't received a second season, even though the source material is incredibly popular and it would only take one more season to finish it. When one looks at some of the other shows that have received second seasons since Bloom aired (particularly a certain two much talked about romcoms from last season)... well, personally it makes me a little sick.

My theories... or rather, the things I think create this problem are:

1. A sense within Japanese culture that yuri romance isn't quite as legitimate as in the west. Not making any kind of moralizing, or SJW-style critique here (I have this thing called a brain), but there's a cultural difference going on in terms of how seriously the Japanese take homosexual relationships. Or.. that's a bad way of phrasing it and I don't want to invite any of usual woke attacks on Japanese culture. But hopefully you get what I mean.

2. Political reasons. Yuri romance in anime, particularly involving schoolgirls, no matter how artfully done like in Bloom, has a large amount of people working overtly and covertly behind the scenes trying to stamp it out, similar to lolis. The anti-art problematizers who want to limit expression are powerful and their tendrils are far-reaching. A lot of people like to say this stuff doesn't affect Japan, but it absolutely does, and has. Yuri was far more common in the 2000s, as were lolis and younger-looking schoolgirl characters in general. There is a growing body of foreign-influenced conservative voices in Japan also working against these kinds of themes in anime (bet you thought I was right-wing, attacking SJWs. No, the right and the left are both enemies of otaku.)

3. Simple money reasons. No matter how popular yuri is, the fact is that there are still a large number of people, including and especially trad-con type dudes (moreso than women in my exp), who fervently dislike all homosexual romance. And lots of people who may not think of themselves as trad-cons, but hold an internal bias they aren't fully aware of. Yuri isn't like a lot of other stuff, in that the people who don't watch it, really don't watch it. As much a guy who does watch yuri would never even try a yaoi show.

It's easy to dismiss it as a purely monetary thing. But I think those first two factors hold more sway. Anime as an industry loves to make niche stuff, so the third point isn't so strong.
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Oct 1, 2020 12:33 AM

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Yaoi - Yuri: 42 - 32
Shounen Ai - Shoujo Ai: 96 -77

There really isn't that much of a difference imo.

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