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Aug 21, 2009 10:54 PM
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I don't really get why she's in love with him, he's never done anything to deserve it or shown the slightest interest in her or her well being.
Sep 27, 2010 9:52 PM
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Love is not something you can 'get'. If people fell in love only with those who have interest in them and care about their well-being, there wouldn't be so many broken hearts >_> Everyone would just be happy and mutually in love.
Oct 3, 2010 9:47 AM
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true enough :(
Oct 31, 2010 9:34 PM
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The answer is simple:

Meroko loves Takuto because Takuto is A-MA-ZING.

I'd fall in love with him too if he was my partner. XD

Or are you talking about Eichi and Mitsuki?

Cause in that case, I'd TOTALLY agree with you..... >_>



Nov 3, 2010 9:34 AM
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was talking about Meroko and Takuto. Eichi and Mitsuki is easier to understand, she's in love with the memory of a boy who was basically her best friend. if they ever met again she'd probably have a major clash between memory and reality.
Nov 3, 2010 10:55 AM
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jacobpaige said:
was talking about Meroko and Takuto.


I figured. Takuto cares very much about Meroko as a friend. The only thing he has to do to deserve love is to be himself because speaking from a girl's point of view, any girl would INSTANTLY fall in love with Takuto.

lol



Feb 24, 2011 7:12 PM
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Oh God. Depressed Mitsuki is now getting on my nerves....
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Jan 1, 2013 8:25 PM
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Good job Madoka! She definitely played a vital role to make Mitsuki's grandmother realize how Mitsuki treasured her love for music. +1 for her. I can now honestly forget about all the bad things she wanted to befall Full Moon.

From the looks of it, Mitsuki is going to regain her spirit back. But I am wondering what would happen when Takuto remembers his demise.

5/5 for so many episodes!
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Apr 14, 2013 10:50 AM
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Madoka won so many points for me this episode. She used to be a character I hate but now I definitely like her. Looks like Takuto remembered his past. Wonder what's going to happen with him now. Mitsuki needs to step it up. I'm sure she'll come to realize that she actually loves singing.

This episode was full of many emotional and heartbreaking scenes.

5/5
Dec 8, 2013 5:09 PM
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Aww, I knew Madoka would turn around eventually. And she did a great job convincing grandma to listen to Mitsuki's singing.

It seems like Takuto's human memories are coming back. If I remember correctly, Takuto will turn into a ghost if he remembers everything.

Don't disappear Takuto, if both you and Eichi are gone Mitsuki really will be all alone :(
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It was definitely worth to stick with this show,the last episodes have been quite the ride.

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Madoka made me eat my words about her; truly the MVP. And the pig is oficially her pet awwww.

Takuto... it upsets me how he treats Meroko who is nothing but kind to everyone. Her resorting to Izumi to be heard was heartbreaking. Neither of them deserves Meroko.
Oct 11, 2019 7:26 PM

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Takuto... it upsets me how he treats Meroko


He was freaking out; it was just bad timing and was a one-time only thing. Some people freak out even more if you touch them during a break-down. If she didn't always cling to him, he probably would've reacted normally.

who is nothing but kind to everyone.


Err....no, she can be quite selfish at times and rather inconsiderate of his feelings. Up until the tragedy, she was basically telling him out loud to forget about Mitsuki and pay attention to her instead.



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Chiibi said:
SaiDrew said:
Takuto... it upsets me how he treats Meroko


He was freaking out; it was just bad timing and was a one-time only thing. Some people freak out even more if you touch them during a break-down. If she didn't always cling to him, he probably would've reacted normally.

Takuto usually has an attitude even if Meroko just tells him something about their job; if it was only when Meroko is clinging to her, okay, fair.

I'd say he's even more inconsiderate of everyone's feelings and wishes since he tends to do whatever Mitsuki feels like, which has been acknowledged by both Meroko and Mitsuki.
Oct 11, 2019 9:10 PM

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SaiDrew said:

Takuto usually has an attitude even if Meroko just tells him something about their job


Their job is basically killing humans; can you blame him? It's because Meroko's been doing it much longer that she's used to it; he isn't.

I'd say he's even more inconsiderate of everyone's feelings and wishes since he tends to do whatever Mitsuki feels like, which has been acknowledged by both Meroko and Mitsuki.


"Doing what Mitsuki feels like" is the opposite of being inconsiderate. If you're trying to say 'he's inconsiderate of just Meroko's feelings, then yeah, sure. They can both be jerks to each other equally which is why I've never liked them as a couple.



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Chiibi said:
SaiDrew said:

Takuto usually has an attitude even if Meroko just tells him something about their job


Their job is basically killing humans; can you blame him? It's because Meroko's been doing it much longer that she's used to it; he isn't.
Well, yeah, that's what they do but so far they haven't killed anyone and Meroko hasn't asked him to do anything remotely close to that. The only moment so far is the last one when she wonders if letting Mitsuki live is a cruel thing to do, it seemed that she would go for it. I was referring to more trivial stuff but, crap, I can't quite recall one specific scenario.

Also, I wouldn't exactly call that being considerate, that sounds like spoiling her. His actions don't seem to be out of his own kindness, etc, but because Mitsuki "demands" it (not literally "demand" btw. It's the only word I can come up with this late at night). At least we agree both Meroko and Takuto are better off with someone else.
Oct 12, 2019 12:46 PM

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Also, I wouldn't exactly call that being considerate, that sounds like spoiling her.


Dude, if I was friends with a little girl who was scheduled to die in one year, I'd spoil the f*ck outta her? Children with terminal illnesses SHOULD BE SPOILED.

'Make A Wish Foundation' exists for that exact reason, you know?

His actions don't seem to be out of his own kindness, etc, but because Mitsuki "demands" it (not literally "demand" btw.


No, everything he does for her, he does out of love. Isn't that obvious? He doesn't expect anything back. That message comes across very clearly in episode 40 so I don't know why you think he "isn't kind"...unless you're grossly misunderstanding his character.
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Chiibi said:
SaiDrew said:


Also, I wouldn't exactly call that being considerate, that sounds like spoiling her.


Dude, if I was friends with a little girl who was scheduled to die in one year, I'd spoil the f*ck outta her? Children with terminal illnesses SHOULD BE SPOILED.

'Make A Wish Foundation' exists for that exact reason, you know?

His actions don't seem to be out of his own kindness, etc, but because Mitsuki "demands" it (not literally "demand" btw.


No, everything he does for her, he does out of love. Isn't that obvious? He doesn't expect anything back. That message comes across very clearly in episode 40 so I don't know why you think he "isn't kind"...unless you're grossly misunderstanding his character.
Not even sure why you brought up MAW: they are not about spoiling kids, it's about giving them something that would be impossible for them to reach, something that could give them an immense joy. And Takuto has already fulfilled Mitsuki's wish when he transformed her into a 16-year-old with a healthy body to attend the audition. At this point, I'm not sure we have the same concept of "spoiling" tbh, so I'll refrain from giving an opinion on your hypothetical scenario.

I'm saying Takuto isn't kind because the only person for whom he does things is Mitsuki, and as you said, he does it because he's in love with her. And then he has to remind himself every episode that no matter what happens, what he does, Mitsuki's feelings for Eichi will never disappear. Of course he expects something back.
Oct 12, 2019 9:27 PM

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SaiDrew said:
Not even sure why you brought up MAW: they are not about spoiling kids, it's about giving them something that would be impossible for them to reach, something that could give them an immense joy. And Takuto has already fulfilled Mitsuki's wish when he transformed her into a 16-year-old with a healthy body to attend the audition.


Which would mean NOTHING if he didn't stick around for her. She cannot accomplish her wish on her own; it's a one-year-long wish.

Of course he expects something back.


NO, HE DOESN'T. He flat-out says "I can't make her happy." And then he tries as hard as he can to find Eichi for her because he still wants her to be happy. Even with Eichi gone, shinigami and humans cannot stay together and he knows this and accepts it.

Geeze, it's like you've never heard of 'unconditional love' before. It means putting someone's happiness and well-being before your own with no strings attached, and he does nothing but this.

'Unconditional love' is the greatest kindness there is.

And Mitsuki's NOT the only person he is kind to either. He still has a strong friendship with Meroko; (you see how he defended her against Izumi's harassment). He gets angry when he sees other people being treated badly. He cared about the old man. He even stayed with that little filler brat Nanami because she started crying when he disappeared.

He is in fact SO KIND, that he hasn't managed to take a human's soul for two whole years, as Izumi pointed out and called him a failure.

Hell, before he fell for Mitsuki, he helped her because he felt sympathy for her. Sympathy doesn't exist without kindness; so don't gimme that bullshit "Mr, Nice Guy" logic of "he only does it because he hopes she'll love him back".

Because, as someone who's watched this anime around twenty times, I can assure you sir, that's not f*cking true at all.



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Chiibi said:
SaiDrew said:
Not even sure why you brought up MAW: they are not about spoiling kids, it's about giving them something that would be impossible for them to reach, something that could give them an immense joy. And Takuto has already fulfilled Mitsuki's wish when he transformed her into a 16-year-old with a healthy body to attend the audition.


Which would mean NOTHING if he didn't stick around for her. She cannot accomplish her wish on her own; it's a one-year-long wish.
Sure, because she said "help me in my idol career for the rest of my life. Btw, good luck if you, Takuto, regain your past memories because doing it will end your existence as a shinigami" instead of "please, just let me audition".

I literally don't know what to say. Your usage of caps, bold, italics is so tiresome that it makes me want to drop this discussion. Can't you simply discuss in a civil manner?

So, Takuto felt sympathy for Mitsuki when they first met... that, honestly, isn't impressive at all.

Edit: I didn't want to post this but I accidentally clicked post.
Oct 13, 2019 4:12 PM

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it makes me want to drop this discussion.


Good. Quit trash-talking my husband and there won't be further problems.

Can't you simply discuss in a civil manner?


Lol I'm so sorry my usage of caps, italics, and bold to empathize what I feel you need to read c-a-r-e-f-ul-l-l-y hurts your wittle feelings. Look, you're going to need thicker nerves than that to survive on MAL, so I suggest you grow a pair; this is a forum where people literally refer to others as "cancer" for liking an anime they don't.

But formatting is "uncivil" to you? Lol

So, Takuto felt sympathy for Mitsuki when they first met... that, honestly, isn't impressive at all.


Someone sure hasn't been paying attention FOR REAL here; as the show has told you OH SO MANY TIMES "shinigami interacting with and using their powers to help humans is strictly forbidden and has SERIOUS consequences", thus Takuto risking his own neck to help a kid out of sympathy IS quite impressive and not something just anyone would do.

He did it out of kindness; just accept the facts, bro. If I sound offensive to you, it's only because you keep saying stupid things that the anime has stated over and over blatantly which are false. It's frustrating to deal with a person who seems incapable of absorbing canonical information from the thing they are arguing about.
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This episode actually made me like Madoka. She really has improved.
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So much has been happening in these past four episodes, holy crap. Characters are growing or breaking apart at accelerated rates, there hasn't been any pre-episode warnings to watch the show from a safe distance, and the constant depression isn't unbearable yet, but between Mitsuki dying and Takuto at risk of becoming a wandering ghost, the last stretch of Full Moon wo Sagashite has been quite heavy. There's still 8 episodes left, so I can't imagine how much longer this drama can go on before it feels dragged out.

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