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Marrone said: When is episode 2 coming out? Isn't it today? I think it's tomorrow, actually (I don't know why but the first episode aired a day before the official release in some countries). |
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malMaxi said: Ridiculous question merits a similarly ridiculous answer: we saw one instance of gate open and in that one instance the kids went into it, so the chances are 100%, as far as we observed. A more serious reply would be - that's not how security in such installation should work. Since security is an important topic for me, this took me out of the experience entirely. Why they have to be perfect securing that place though? Maybe, there was supposed to be someone guarding the gate, but this time for whatever reason it didn't come and they just felt to proceed anyway because it has never happened someting like that, or simply it has always worked that way, so why change? Or maybe, they don't care if one of the children finds the truth, because they are confident it will be impossible to escape anyway. There can be multiple reasons so I don't get why the monsters can't make mistakes or be confident about the situation. |
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| Seriously, what an amazing start! |
| well, "to serve man" indeed. Nice first ep! |
| This is not your planet to rule. The Fallen shall rise again. |
| A very good start. Loved it. Loving the OP. And Poor Conny. |
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| Good episode, already liking the atmosphere of this show. Also good op, I just noticed this season has a strong op contenders. |
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| HAHA I knew they were going to eat those lovely children as soon as they said that no one ever wrote them a letter. But Aliens, seriously? THat's a big turn off... meh |
| Wow this was a fantastic first episode! I loved everything about it. All the kids seem like enjoyable enough characters. I think I like Emma the most. The animation and atmosphere is stunning, and the complete shift in tone was so incredibly well done. I’m usually never creeped out by anime, but this first episode actually got to me. Those monsters are horrifying lol. I also loved that creepy cliffhanger at the end where Mama finds the bunny the kids left behind. What a scary expression she had. |
| So humans are livestock farmed for meat and the outside world has monsters, pretty interesting premise. |
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| i never saw it coming. poor connie never had a chance. |
| Looks really promising :D |
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| The atmosphere is absolutely amazing. I'm so into it. |
| This is shaping up to be such a promising adaption. They nailed the atmosphere and the character animation. That demon reveal was chilling. I'm so excited to see where they take this. |
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| Some of the ugliest character designs I've ever seen but...seems interesting. |
| After the first episode this anime get good scores. But if it will be just like the manga, then nothing but huge disappointment will follow. The show has no originality at all, but it couldn't be a problem if the plot twists and timings and the dialouges are good, but they are not! Plot twists are easily predictable, also copied from another manga. Dialouges are childish and repetitive, in the manga they reposting one thing 10 times for eachother, they are gold fishes with 5 sec short memory system or what? If this is it, then my score is 1/10 = the biggest disappointment ever. :( |
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| great start. im curious to see how they get the hell outta there |
haoody said: malMaxi said: No show is not entitled to me spending the effort to connect its points because its writers are bs slackers. Before i start connecting the points for the show's benefit, the show has to sell me on being worth it. It didn't do it in ep.1 and it still didn't do it even in ep.2. Depends on how bad ep.3 goes, i might just drop it. @Momentay in the post just above seems to agree. Everything that you complained here could've been easily answered if you just spended the effort into connecting the points. So what's the point in calling the writers slackers? The guy above is a SnKfag and obviously is going to complain about TPN copying SnK plot, even if some of the biggest plot twists of SnK are ripped off of Claymore, so whatever. Thanks for being an insulter. That tells something from you not from me. And yes SnK is my #1. Do you have problems with it? Maybe SnK did the same plot twist as Claymore (i don't know where...). But this anime copying a lot from SnK. The basic situation, the monsters eats humans, the guy who leads them from the shadows has a symbol of an owl... etc. So if i'm an SnKfag... what fag are you? Tell me your #1 anime and i just put the fag after it, that's how it works right? You complaining on me meanwhile you realized what this anime and ofc it's manga did... So what's the point mr. SnKhater? :) |
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haoody said: Momentay said: Thanks for being an insulter. That tells something from you not from me. And yes SnK is my #1. Do you have problems with it? Maybe SnK did the same plot twist as Claymore (i don't know where...). But this anime copying a lot from SnK. The basic situation, the monsters eats humans, the guy who leads them from the shadows has a symbol of an owl... etc. So if i'm an SnKfag... what fag are you? Tell me your #1 anime and i just put the fag after it, that's how it works right? You complaining on me meanwhile you realized what this anime and ofc it's manga did... So what's the point mr. SnKhater? :) That what I was talking about. You're an extreme fan of SnK, just because I made little of it, you already call me a SnKhater and make this tumult. And I've said above that this wasn't an insult. My #1 is Haibane Renmei. but I'm not going to extremes to protect him like you. haoody said: Isn't a insult, I'm just saying that he's an extreme fan of Shingeki no Kyojin. I'm going to write about Claymore in spoiler. If you hate so much TPN for copying SnK, I have bad news for you. So you totaly missed the point, when i said no originality isn't a problem? :D That is realy hard today to create something 100 % original, the problem is how the manga/anime do it. I never said SnK is the most original thing i've ever seen but what it does with the sources is good for me. And why is that a problem if i love the whole thing? Why have to degrading me for it? Btw i saw some episode of Claymore. But in Snk this plot twist was always in the air because of the 100 years memory wash and obviously the Titans had to come from somewhere else. It wasn't a real plot twist for the readers but for the characters. |
MomentayJan 23, 2019 4:57 AM
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haoody said: Momentay said: Why have to degrading me for it? I said that I wasn't trying to insult you two times and even quoted it again to make sure. So you totaly missed the point From the start I told you about Claymore, you asked what did it copy and I told you what. While you call Neverland a copy for having man-eating monsters and... walls(?), I replied you just to say that Shingeki copied the ENTIRE PLOT of Claymore. That's it. But if you want to continue with this, just if you want, I would be interested if you talk more about this: Momentay said: Plot twists are easily predictable, also copied from another manga. Are you still using SnK as a reference? If yes, what plots? malMaxi said: The honest answer is: hard to quantify. That was really big but also really explanatory. The character that is sacrificed for the sake of the big scary reveal is at that point a character whose importance for the main cast was well established in the actual events of the story. This part in especific is something that really attacks Neverland. They tried to compress things that needed 3 episodes in Madoka, in only one episode, and that's what happened: rushed, low developed and 0 feelings towards the characters i still love Mami. But even that part in the manga is rushed like this, and they'll have to rush even more to adapt the whole arc in 13 episodes, so we'll finish it and forget like one of these random seasonal animes, or they are going to do a miracle like the escape of the truck in the first episode and do a job that even you would like. 100% sure that you're talking about High School of The Dead and i couldn't agree more, the way that they introduce us into the scenario is really cool, we (spectator) know about the zombies and the terror that's happening in the city, but in the MC point of view looks like a normal day until everything comes to him. And Psycho-Pass is in my Plan to Watch, so I'm going to give it a try later to see how it is different of Neverland's first episode. I don't realy want to continue, i think that was clear why i'm disappointed with this series, but once again: it could be so much more than what we've got! Just like Naruto: Shipuuden, Fairy tail etc. And what u've said was degrading because you mark me as a fag give the feeling my opinion doesn't matter i'm just a bandwagon traveler etc. But for some reason more ppl liked the AoT version of that plot not the original. Btw i liked Psycho-pass so i know my opinion is a pos, but i can recommand it too. In China it was baned because they are installing a system in their cities similar to what we see in the anime... |
MomentayJan 23, 2019 6:41 AM
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| HOLY SHIT THAT WAS GOOD! OP and ED animations were also fantastic, but the songs were good at best. |
| An admin's dickhead Soul banned me from MAL t('v't) |
| Just wow. This pilot episode was the best pilot I've seen since Attack on Titan's. |
| Eren, Mikasa, and Armin. Wow that's some early plot twist. This show hit me. |
If you are going to disagree with me, don't bother talking to me. I will seriously hurt you! |
| The manga is much better. Dropped. |
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| I don't read manga; all it does is ruin my enjoyment and appreciation of anime. Reading every manga readers opinion about an anime strengthens that. |
| "Manga readers are annoying, all they do is complain or spoil the anime we discuss in an anime forum. They should really do their whining at manga forums. USERS ON MY IGNORED LIST: RayReynolds - SSL443 - Dr4kon - Nerdanimefan1992 - ToTheMountains - Fiveskies To add users to the Ignore list: (1) Go to Account settings (2) Click Forum tab and toggle down (3) Type or paste user name on entry box (4) Click Add and you're done. Problem solved, you'll never have to see someone trolling ever again because their post will be closed/collapsed. |
| The first episode already has my wanting more. Horror nowadays needs more things that can actually be scary. It's not anime but watching YouTube videos, Shed 17 and Project G-1, parodies on Thomas the Tank Engine, really took me off the edge of my seat. I hope this anime does the same. |
| Pretty much the entirety of Chapter 1 was adapted into this episode. The soundtrack and visuals were amazing. The way they handled the twist was also really good. Great first episode. I heard rumors that this anime was pretty generic, but after seeing it now I can change my mind. It's a survive genre imo. Can't wait to see more of it. Those demons look pretty nasty. |
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The_Cube5671 said: (And obviously a twist was coming but I call bullshit on anyone able to predict that the kids in an orphanage were being fed to a demon race. Like, I had the prediction of government program with all the tests and stuff, and a few others had organ harvesting in mind... IDK how you could possibly predict Demon eating kids? W/o reading the synopsis ofc) Eh, it's a pretty common plot. Just the barest element of the synopsis "orphanage where everyone is adopted at 12" clearly means that they're being killed, sold, or something else. Then the key visual shows them on a plate with a knife and fork. It's really hard to be more obvious that that. Yet they are. The knife and fork are arranged like the hands of a clock with clocks and calendars figuring prominently into everything. The episode title is also clearly a date, something that is shown immediately. This establishes a theme of "counting down" and "running out of time". The numbers on their necks also give off the idea that they're being tracked while looking suspiciously like dates. Then you have the just straightforward foreshadowing, like when one of the kids if playing around with "I'm gonna eat you!"... Yeah. They pretty much bludgeon you over the head with it. I didn't know anything else before watching the first episode. Just that brief synopsis of and the one visual at the top of the page, but that was all was needed to tell what the plot was going to be. Maybe it's less obvious if you're younger and haven't had the chance to consume as much media, so you don't recognize the signs. I will agree that it wasn't as clear exactly who was eating them. I would have preferred them being sold to other humans (either in a post-apocalyptic setting or just because future society has decided to embrace eating kids), but doubted it due to the intended age range. They usually don't want to go with a plot that dark and instead use non-human monsters. Still, it could have been for money or because they need to use children as a sacrifice to powerful beings of some sort (again, a common horror plot). But that's really the only key detail missing. |
| I knew there was gonna be a horrible twist somewhere with that "Horror" tag, but the longer they dragged out how happy the kids were the harder it was to finally see Conny's fate. I'm guessing that flower they put in her grows off of their "innocence" or something. The world outside is still a dark question mark, wonder how long it'll take for us to see it |
| Kids in this manga use guns so no chance for Jump Force. |
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| - I'm not well versed in this kind of fiction- the most I can think of right now is Never Let Me Go, aka I don't know anything. Thing is, you can think of a lot of shows that give off a similar vibe in anime/manga alone, so despite my ignorance I can see that this isn't the most original show- so, execution would be key. So far so good. - Camera work! Loved it! THAT was creative. - Marei's acting was hyped a lot but I'm not entirely impressed. She's doing a listenable set of boy acting, which is more that I can usually say about her acting. However if you ignore the fact that it's Marei it's just about ok, and I can see some cracks in certain lines that give away that it's a girl voicing him. Of course she may get better... - Sumire though, yes she's amazing. - A-1/CW are always...good. Not great. Here too...good. Not great. - Halfway convinced with the characters. I would like to see some more characterization of them though. Some more dimensions. |
| OK, I wanted to like the first episode, but there are some plot holes (or should I better said, ''plot conveniences'') and unanswered questions that still bugs me, and prevents me from watching the whole series: Those plot holes existed in the manga too, or the manga did answer the questions? |
| Not bad. They are rushing a bit compared to manga but it was still very enjoyable and true to the original. I would say good adaptation so far. |
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