| It bothers me that in almost all anime the main character comes from a broken home. Dragonball, Mobile Suit Gundam, Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu, YuYu Hakusho, HunterxHunter, Naruto, Bleach, Soul Eater, Ao no Exorcist, Ushio to Tora, Shingeki no Kyojin, Boku no Hero Academia, Made in Abyss, UQ Holder, Black Clover, etc. They are all raised as orphans or by single parents. I understand they want to make them seem disadvantaged, and have more obstacles to overcome, but every damn time? Why can’t they just have normal parents? This is the type of thing that can even negatively effects real life families. Children who watch these anime will wish they were from a broken home, so they can be like their hero. Even if they grow out of it, they will have the thought in the back of their head, that if they abandon their child, or wife, things will turn out good for them. Which is rarely the case. They might not even realize it, or even be against it, but it will still be there from when they sympathized and internalized the characters in the anime. Constantly using this cliche only serves to diminish the serious negative consequences of broken homes and the problems faced by children in those homes. If they do use it, they should not negate the ramifications and have the character fail, never to achieve any modicum of success at life. Mirroring the real world. |
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| something something watch things other than shounen etc |
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| Um, what? I'm pretty sure nobody young enough to be so impressionable would've watched any more than one or two anime (I certainly won't be showing any kids Attack on Titan any time soon). And even if they had seen so many, they'd be so busy throwing pretend Kamehamehas that they wouldn't draw the broken home connection. Case and point, me. I grew up with DBZ, but rather than wishing for his family environment, I wished for laser beams. And I know for a fact that I wouldn't be so irresponsible to just leave my family to fend for themselves. Now for the second point, what? People grow up having been raised by single parents and orphanages all the time. Can you seriously tell me with a straight face that all or even the vast majority of those people didn't grow up to lead a happy life? Not even one? Again, case and point, my parents are divorced, and I'm doing fine. |
Username23489023 said: This is the type of thing that can even negatively effects real life families. Children who watch these anime will wish they were from a broken home, so they can be like their hero. Even if they grow out of it, they will have the thought in the back of their head, that if they abandon their child, or wife, things will turn out good for them.. Hahaha, that one got a laugh. Kudos mate. It's worth absolutely nothing to anyone ever, but I'm going to award this thread with my own personal "certified shitpost" ribbon. Hold your head high, you earned it. |
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| That's much better than the "My parents are on a trip so I'm alone here then suddenly a fappable waifu got summoned in my bedroom, what the fuck am I gonna do?!" Ohhh well, one is befitting of its current viewer and the same goes for the other one, so I guess it's not really a bad thing. You're here to truly enjoy how cancerous AD is. But, not as much as once it was on its prime good-old days :/ *Currently thinking of going to Reddit/4chan for much better cancer than AD* |
| Who is this edgelord and why would he want to have a broken home to be like Naturo Uzumaki? |
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| I just remembered that the main character from the b-daman anime had a single mother. You wanna know what I thought about it as a kid? "Woah! I love all of those bee-damn-mans dude!! So cool! Mommy buy me some of theeeem~" I certainly did not think, "Hmm, I wonder if the idea that strong-willed, charismatic characters are a result of being raised in a single-parent household. Gimme a sec, I'm gonna go stab up my dad so I can give it a shot." Honestly, what is this...you just can't be real with this shit man. Pls. |
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| What about your username? do you come from the past ? is this 1999? what's your password? 666XXXfuckyou ? are you still using wordart ? what do you think of Nu Metal ? it's the future of Rock Music isn't it? I'm pretty sure that by 2017 there will be a lot of successful Nu Metal bands around the world ... |
| Oh yh like these shows promote broken homes in a good light right? Naruto's childhood was terrible, Ichigo still had a hard time evertime his dead Mother got braught up, Eren Yeager lost his mother and Wanted to kill all titans thanks to that and then there is NGE. So even portraying a Family that can function after being broken is suddenly a bad thing? Do ppl with a broken home have to suffer for the rest of their life? Are orphans not allowed to become succesfull? Do you honestly think that such shows make children think that they want to break their homes? This OP is just stupid. |
| Well, the whole orphan thing is a very popular, very universal archetype. It's the same in all media. I mean, most popular heroes are orphans to some degree: Harry Potter, Luke Skywalker, Katniss Everdeen, 90% of all superheroes... just look up Jungian archetypes and you'll find all sorts of stuff about it. Also, from a storytelling standpoint, characters with humble beginnings are a lot more interesting. They're underdogs, and people are more likely to root for the underdogs. |
LainDarkoOct 31, 2017 11:23 PM
Username23489023 said: Children who watch these anime will wish they were from a broken home, so they can be like their hero. Even if they grow out of it, they will have the thought in the back of their head, that if they abandon their child, or wife, things will turn out good for them. Which is rarely the case. They might not even realize it, or even be against it, but it will still be there from when they sympathized and internalized the characters in the anime. Wait... what? Children who watch will wish they were from a broken home? You're a special kind of stupid aren't you. I need to leave before this stupidity rubs off on me. |
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Username23489023 said: It bothers me that in almost all anime the main character comes from a broken home. Dragonball, Mobile Suit Gundam, Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu, YuYu Hakusho, HunterxHunter, Naruto, Bleach, Soul Eater, Ao no Exorcist, Ushio to Tora, Shingeki no Kyojin, Boku no Hero Academia, Made in Abyss, UQ Holder, Black Clover, etc. They are all raised as orphans or by single parents. I understand they want to make them seem disadvantaged, and have more obstacles to overcome, but every damn time? Why can’t they just have normal parents? This is the type of thing that can even negatively effects real life families. Children who watch these anime will wish they were from a broken home, so they can be like their hero. Even if they grow out of it, they will have the thought in the back of their head, that if they abandon their child, or wife, things will turn out good for them. Which is rarely the case. They might not even realize it, or even be against it, but it will still be there from when they sympathized and internalized the characters in the anime. Constantly using this cliche only serves to diminish the serious negative consequences of broken homes and the problems faced by children in those homes. If they do use it, they should not negate the ramifications and have the character fail, never to achieve any modicum of success at life. Mirroring the real world. Do not let this bother you. It's actually law of conservation of detail in action - a complete family is a whole lot of characters who don't have much to do with the plot, so the author tries to exclude them one way or another. That's also the real reason for all the parents who go to a trip to the other side of the world and leave their child to fend for himself against the hordes of lustful schoolgirls (although apparently it does actually happen). That said, there is a share of MCs with a more-or-less complete family. We get to see both parents in many shows, from To-Love-Ru to Strike the Blood. And even more shows claim or imply the characters have expected amount of relatives. I also disagree that children from tough circumstances never achieve any modicum of success at "life". Out of my limited personal experience, the single-mother child friend of mine is reasonably successful. Darek said: A lot of people do have issues at home btw, broken homes, bad parents, single parwnts, divorces, abuse, those things are not as uncommon as we wish to those things to be. A lot of the people I met in my life have had some issues like that, myself included. This. These people deserve to be heroes in anime too. Every kind of person should have a chance to be a hero, to inspire real people like him or her. |
flannanOct 31, 2017 11:41 PM
Jare4lopez said: What about your username? do you come from the past ? is this 1999? what's your password? 666XXXfuckyou ? are you still using wordart ? what do you think of Nu Metal ? it's the future of Rock Music isn't it? I'm pretty sure that by 2017 there will be a lot of successful Nu Metal bands around the world ... Nu Metal was actually pretty good...and then around the turn of the millennium it got flooded as every single rock band tried to emulate the Nu Metal sound, while the original Nu Metal groups (Korn, Deftones) all started experimenting with other stuff. |
"I'd take rampant lesbianism over nuclear armageddon or a supervolcano any day." ~nikiforova |
Nu Metal was actually pretty good...and then around the turn of the millennium it got flooded as every single rock band tried to emulate the Nu Metal sound, while the original Nu Metal groups (Korn, Deftones) all started experimenting with other stuff. |
JaredLopezNov 1, 2017 10:25 AM
| It is easy to emphasize to the characters if they have a tragic story. Hurr durr Japanese Writing 101. |
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romagia said: something something watch things other than shounen etc And shounens are marketed towards children. Darek said: This must be a shitpost, on the other hand... I always wish to believe that people this stupid don't exist but then whenever I browse MAL... Ehh I don't know anymore... Who is a troll? Who is just stupid? I am disappointed that I even have to ask myself this question sometimes. Ehhh... Because it works? A lot of people do have issues at home btw, broken homes, bad parents, single parwnts, divorces, abuse, those things are not as uncommon as we wish to those things to be. A lot of the people I met in my life have had some issues like that, myself included. I mean, do I even need to explain why it does not lead to those type of behaviour? Like, this might as well be a shitpost, is it worth it? Fuck this website, fuck AD, and fuck the community. Why am I even ranting here ffs,. Is it really that stupid to want people to not abandon their children? OmegaSwampert said: Um, what? I'm pretty sure nobody young enough to be so impressionable would've watched any more than one or two anime (I certainly won't be showing any kids Attack on Titan any time soon). And even if they had seen so many, they'd be so busy throwing pretend Kamehamehas that they wouldn't draw the broken home connection. Case and point, me. I grew up with DBZ, but rather than wishing for his family environment, I wished for laser beams. And I know for a fact that I wouldn't be so irresponsible to just leave my family to fend for themselves. Now for the second point, what? People grow up having been raised by single parents and orphanages all the time. Can you seriously tell me with a straight face that all or even the vast majority of those people didn't grow up to lead a happy life? Not even one? Again, case and point, my parents are divorced, and I'm doing fine. Well, I’m glad you’re doing fine. I guess I didn’t really articulate the last part. I can understand how you infer that I was indicating that all children from broken him never succeed in life, but I was proposing the worse possible out come to help persuade people not to do this. Not that the worst possible outcome is the vast majority, just that creating a broken home only generate negatives, not positives. TheHonestThief said: Hahaha, that one got a laugh. Kudos mate. It's worth absolutely nothing to anyone ever, but I'm going to award this thread with my own personal "certified shitpost" ribbon. Hold your head high, you earned it. I will reserve a place on achievements shelf. Gintokikachi said: Who is this edgelord and why would he want to have a broken home to be like Naturo Uzumaki? He goes by the name "anonymous" on 4chan. flannan said: Do not let this bother you. It's actually law of conservation of detail in action - a complete family is a whole lot of characters who don't have much to do with the plot, so the author tries to exclude them one way or another. That's also the real reason for all the parents who go to a trip to the other side of the world and leave their child to fend for himself against the hordes of lustful schoolgirls (although apparently it does actually happen). That said, there is a share of MCs with a more-or-less complete family. We get to see both parents in many shows, from To-Love-Ru to Strike the Blood. And even more shows claim or imply the characters have expected amount of relatives. I also disagree that children from tough circumstances never achieve any modicum of success at "life". Out of my limited personal experience, the single-mother child friend of mine is reasonably successful. Darek said: A lot of people do have issues at home btw, broken homes, bad parents, single parwnts, divorces, abuse, those things are not as uncommon as we wish to those things to be. A lot of the people I met in my life have had some issues like that, myself included. This. These people deserve to be heroes in anime too. Every kind of person should have a chance to be a hero, to inspire real people like him or her. It should bother everyone. The reason to display children from broken homes never achieving success is to make the viewer feel bad about it, or even guilty, reinforcing the idea that you shouldn’t leave your wife because this could happen. Sure they deserve an anime where someone from a broken home becomes the best, but to make the vast majority of anime for them? Seems unreasonable. Jare4lopez said: Everyone comes from the past to get to the present. Papa Roach’s single Broken Home came out in 2000, not 1999.What about your username? do you come from the past ? is this 1999? what's your password? 666XXXfuckyou ? are you still using wordart ? what do you think of Nu Metal ? it's the future of Rock Music isn't it? I'm pretty sure that by 2017 there will be a lot of successful Nu Metal bands around the world ... nymi said: It is easy to emphasize to the characters if they have a tragic story. Hurr durr Japanese Writing 101. Which is my whole point. Make it tragic, not make it seem like a requirement. Image a shonen that has a few characters, where one is from a broken home, let’s call him naruto. We get to the training part but naruto is late, because he had to walk since his dad never showed up because he doesn’t give two fucks about him. He misses all the cool techniques, but he shouts, "I’M NARUTO BITCH, AND NOTHING WILL KEEP ME DOWN, I’LL OVERCOME THIS AND BECOME HOKAGE!" Next episode he cannot get into training camp since he doesn’t have enough money to cover the bill since he’s raised by a single mother with a part time job. So naruto goes looking for a job, finds one, applies, but one of the other characters get it since his father works there. So he shouts, "I’M NARUTO BITCH, AND NOTHING WILL KEEP ME DOWN, I’LL OVERCOME THIS AND BECOME HOKAGE!" Next episode the tournament starts, and naruto loses first round since his self training wasn’t on par with the trainers hired by the other characters. He gets angry about his life and has a fight with his mother, who then kicks him out. So he shouts, "I’M NARUTO BITCH, AND NOTHING WILL KEEP ME DOWN, I’LL OVERCOME THIS AND BECOME HOKAGE!" Next episodes naruto watches the semi finals through a window, and fantasies about how that could have been him. Then he goes and curls up on his park bench as the snow blows over him. he mutters to himself, "I’m naruto bitch, and nothing will keep me down, I’ll overcome this and become hokage." He falls asleep and we see his breaths of air condense in the cold air. Eventual they stop. Wind keeps howling. Snow builds up on the bench. Ending plays but no music, just the sounds of the wind. Next episode, Character #1 wins the tournament, his dad shouts, "Way to go son!" He replies, "Gee, thanks dad." Then they all head to the after party, and congratulate themselves. Something like that is how I’d want the broken home aspect done. If it’s done well it might make people think about divorce/fornication the way Grave of the Fireflies made people feel about war. |
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| Well OP. Most homes aren't a mom, a dad and a picket fence. And to put a pin in you even more, Gon and Izuku are clearly not all that effected by having a "broken" home. So. Yeah. |
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Stripesu said: Well OP. Most homes aren't a mom, a dad and a picket fence. And to put a pin in you even more, Gon and Izuku are clearly not all that effected by having a "broken" home. So. Yeah.  |
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Username23489023 said: Stripesu said: Well OP. Most homes aren't a mom, a dad and a picket fence. And to put a pin in you even more, Gon and Izuku are clearly not all that effected by having a "broken" home. So. Yeah. Well sorry I ignored your dumbassery of thinking kids are stupid enough to think that if there home is broken they'll have a better chance at being a shonen protagonist. My mistake. |
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Username23489023 said: flannan said: Do not let this bother you. It's actually law of conservation of detail in action - a complete family is a whole lot of characters who don't have much to do with the plot, so the author tries to exclude them one way or another. That's also the real reason for all the parents who go to a trip to the other side of the world and leave their child to fend for himself against the hordes of lustful schoolgirls (although apparently it does actually happen). That said, there is a share of MCs with a more-or-less complete family. We get to see both parents in many shows, from To-Love-Ru to Strike the Blood. And even more shows claim or imply the characters have expected amount of relatives. I also disagree that children from tough circumstances never achieve any modicum of success at "life". Out of my limited personal experience, the single-mother child friend of mine is reasonably successful. This. These people deserve to be heroes in anime too. Every kind of person should have a chance to be a hero, to inspire real people like him or her. It should bother everyone. The reason to display children from broken homes never achieving success is to make the viewer feel bad about it, or even guilty, reinforcing the idea that you shouldn’t leave your wife because this could happen. Sure they deserve an anime where someone from a broken home becomes the best, but to make the vast majority of anime for them? Seems unreasonable. I strongly disagree. 1) People have the right to divorce, stop trying to push your religion. Growing up in a household where the parents hate each other and the kid that forces them together is even worse. 2) Supporting children from tough family circumstances is more important than oppressing adults. 3) "Making the viewer feel bad" is a bad idea in general. 4) It would not work anyway. Not that anime has enough audience and propaganda power to make changes in the first place. |
flannanNov 1, 2017 10:57 PM
| You're exaggerating OP Get some Help with that waste EGO of yours >Simply autistic |
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| well looks like they manage to portray a good family virtues and becoming successful at that - my hero academia. I mean it's kinda a waste of animation to animate father going to / back from office just like the usual japanese family. but now I get to mention glasslip. while the show is like slice of life without the "anime life", the show managed to show parents involvement in their daily life which is hard to make do without making it super plain bread. |
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