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Oct 13, 2017 8:12 PM
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It seemed kind of dumb how he literally only loves her so much based on her being pretty. There isnt many things she has done for subaru to warrant his undying loyality. Rem has more reasons but overall I think she is a pretty flawed character. But I have seen much worse in anime.

Subaru has love at first sight on emilia just for being pretty. Thats how vain their relationship is.
Oct 13, 2017 9:34 PM
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Well I was reading the light novel and I watched the show like twice and I think it's because she was the first girl he kinda opened up to or something. The LN said he wasn't so sure about his feelings yet so it probably grew from the loops like subaru and emilia talking in the garden and Emilia letting him use her lap as a pillow soothing him. I understand why people wouldnt like rem. She killed him twice cuz he smelled like a witch and people tend to use that as an argument on why she is not best girl. But how many characters in anime where he or she is a villain. Everyone hated that person but then he or she redeemed themselves making everyone love them. "Vegeta" Just like rem she redeemed herself. She used her life to save subaru countless of times and she'll do it no matter how many times.
Oct 13, 2017 9:37 PM
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It'd be kinda, if it were only because she's apparently outstandingly beautiful (or supposed to be, compared to most humans) for being half-elf. But in the bridge he's mentioned he's not been that close with a girl since mid-school or so, while wanting otherwise. Before that, he's demonstrated interest in a couple outside the grocery store, and was reading checking romance manga. Besides these, there's he wanting to start a new (better) life in that world. So you can imagine that having success in a relationship would be a contributing factor for this. Else, you've seen the kinda character Emilia is--so kind and such. Subaru values these qualities. You can deduce from this that his experiences with girls in his old world weren't as pleasant.

Now even if at first it he had fallen for her 'only for being pretty'--with what they went through together, naturally their relationship would gain more meaning. And it's ridiculous to think he'd sacrifice himself so much just because of that. This isn't like those kinda shows (which I don't even watch, so I can't give much reference).

Well, you can accuse a character of being flawed as much as you want but it won't mean anything unless proven. So you'd have to start by elaborating on what you consider flaws in them.
Oct 13, 2017 9:37 PM
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Nothing, it's a meme
Oct 13, 2017 10:02 PM
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kingraptor724 said:
It seemed kind of dumb how he literally only loves her so much based on her being pretty. There isnt many things she has done for subaru to warrant his undying loyality. Rem has more reasons but overall I think she is a pretty flawed character. But I have seen much worse in anime.

Subaru has love at first sight on emilia just for being pretty. Thats how vain their relationship is.


Watch the first 3 episodes again. Subaru tells you why he's attracted to her, not just her looks. This even before getting into fact she brought him into her home and allow to get a stable life.

If you were someone who was literally lost in different country/world, homeless, nearly robbed and killed, had nothing but clothes on your back and weren't grateful somebody decided out of the goodness of their heart to help your ass without asking anything in return you would be an idiot. You certainly wouldn't deserve the time of day.

Rem on the other hand forced him to jump through hoops and treated him coldly until very end of the 2nd Arc. If had not been for the fact that he partially wanted to say by Emilia's side due to partly out of debt to her he would have left a long time ago. So you tell me again he suddenly switch his love solely to someone who only recently started supporting him over someone look after him since he got to this world? No I didn't' see why it less reasonable for Subaru to like the one person who hasn't gone out of her way to hurt him. What Emilia has done has effected direction of his life more than Rem has which has mostly amount trying save him. If not Emilia doing what she did who knows where he be at this point, which is something you can't say about Rem.

Seems like half the time when some people complain why Subaru liked Emilia more than Rem, they seem to completely forget about the first half of the show and act as if Rem Arc 3 was like that all the time.

And last by you're logic there is not much for Rem to have such loyalty to Subaru either since she feel for him in a similar manner he did for Emilia.
Iron_MawOct 13, 2017 10:24 PM
Oct 17, 2017 2:13 AM
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First, I ask of OP; what is so special about Rem? Why couldn't it be Ram? Is there any hope for Ram?

Anyway, I think the reason why Emilia is special is because... Subaru is the exact opposite.
Oct 17, 2017 2:17 AM
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Why couldn't it be Ram?


Do you read the LN?
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Oct 17, 2017 2:19 AM
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Because she is more beatiful than Rem.

Oct 17, 2017 2:22 AM
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It's an anime adaptation of isekai LN, a LIGHT NOVEL. Don't go too much into it.
Oct 17, 2017 2:22 AM

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Benphyre said:
_Ako_ said:
Why couldn't it be Ram?


Do you read the LN?


I'm not sure if I were even want to read word-by-word of how would Subaru pitifully cry all the time; ohh well, but I guess that's one of the selling point of the series...

Oct 17, 2017 2:24 AM

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Yup. You dont seek logic from an isekai light novel adaptation.


YOU DONT.


Otherwise you will hate it.
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Oct 17, 2017 3:38 AM

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Emilia is literally the most unselfish character in the novel. She's been treated like shit for nearly a century, and instead of destroying the world, which she can easily do with puck, she instead wants to better the lives of the people that's been giving her shit. With the mentality of a 14 year old, she should be unstable, but she's not. She‘s mature for her age. The only reason people like Rem is because she sacrifices herself for Subaru, but in reality, Subaru is a trash character, so Rem‘s sacrifices are in vein. I'd rather have Emila that is trying to be noble and thinks of everyone, than Rem who can only prioritize one or two things.
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Oct 17, 2017 4:29 AM

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Trash tier waifu who appeals to people with garbage taste in waifus

Rem all the fucking way
tragedydesuOct 17, 2017 4:40 AM
Oct 17, 2017 5:35 AM

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I SUMMON THEE:

@SWIRLYDRAGON

Ot: because she's cute and I like silver haired chars and rem''s forced
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Oct 17, 2017 5:40 AM

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tragedydesu said:
Trash tier waifu who appeals to people with garbage taste in waifus
come now Desu lets be honest
Emilia is indeed low tier but not trash
now this is trash
Oct 17, 2017 6:31 AM

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She's pretty and kind, and she isn't (and doesn't want to be) the damsel in distress. She's kind despite people being shitty to her out of prejudice. She tries to be patient and selfless.

enough of these threads, you ignorant fools need to appreciate Ram too
Oct 17, 2017 9:12 AM

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Oh please!
Their relationship is not vain, Subaru does not love Emilia at first sight because she was pretty, it was because she saved him from a bunch of thugs and was very kind/caring towards him. Your argument is flawed.
Emilia is the perfect girl while Rem is trash.
Also, Emilia has done far more things for Subaru than that selfish psychopath Rem.
I guess, I need to refer to my blog:-
Rem just loves Subaru because he saved her which happens in almost every anime, boy saves girl and then girl falls for boy. So if we look at it that way then we can clearly see Rem is too mainstream. She even killed Subaru because she was suspicious of him even though she had 0 proof. As for Emilia, I haven't seen any female character as selfless as Emilia. She saved a complete stranger and made sure to tell him he owes her no debt. No girl would do the same thing Emilia did (because in addition to helping the stranger, she made sure that he doesn't feel indebted to her). Rem murdered Subaru two times, but Emilia always cared about him. When Subaru was killed by Rem, he wanted to gain her trust so he worked very hard even though he became sick afterwards. He was broken from inside. He wanted to cry but he couldn't. He couldn't even tell anyone about his problems. No one cared about him since he tried to hide all his misery by putting a pathetic smile on his face so as to win Rem's trust. Even Rem didn't care about him at all. But Emilia saw thru that facade. She forced Subaru to sleep on her lap. She didn't question him or his motives (while Rem killed Subaru for that). She just provided him what he needed the most and after all the love that Emilia showered, Subaru then started to cry. That scene was beautiful <3
So we can clearly see that Emilia here is the IDEAL GIRL!



Thnx for summoning me btw @Takamura-sama :)

tragedydesu said:
Trash tier waifu who appeals to people with garbage taste in waifus

Rem all the fucking way


Oh please!
The only one who is trash is Rem.
She is complete and utter trash.
Emilia is the best girl and people who like Emilia have great taste.
Emilia FTW!
swirlydragonOct 17, 2017 10:00 AM
Oct 20, 2017 4:34 AM

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What if the Witch has control over Subaru's heart and makes him love Emilia unconditionally(becomes Emilia and Witch look alike)?
Oct 20, 2017 4:55 AM

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Abusaeed said:
What if the Witch has control over Subaru's heart and makes him love Emilia unconditionally(becomes Emilia and Witch look alike)?


That's a possibility.

Arc 4
Oct 20, 2017 7:23 AM

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Nobidexx said:
Abusaeed said:
What if the Witch has control over Subaru's heart and makes him love Emilia unconditionally(becomes Emilia and Witch look alike)?


That's a possibility.

Arc 4


I think it is it less possible especially as the series goes on.



At the beginning of story we knew very little about anything that idea seemed to make the most sense but the later Arcs...
Iron_MawNov 2, 2017 2:07 AM
Oct 21, 2017 7:08 AM

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Reading the web novel translation of arc 4 just made me love Emilia more.
Nov 1, 2017 1:17 PM

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Prog_upworks13 said:
Reading the web novel translation of arc 4 just made me love Emilia more.

Where in the world are you reading THIS!?!?

Okay, I think people have established why he likes Emilia. But as opposed to him liking Rem, I could have easily seen him siding with Ram, which almost could have happened in his first two or three lives at the mansion. However, I think it was inferred that if Ram liked him, Rem would have killed him out of jealousy... or maybe because the feelings she developed for him were causing Ram conflict.

During the part where Ram is going on about Rem cutting Subaru's hair, and staring at Subaru, I'm not sure what is really inferred there, but I think it's really interesting.

Sorry, I excluded anything about ep18. I mean, even though she killed him twice in previous iterations I felt like he moved past that. He was ready to run away with her, and probably would have been torn about what he knew was going to befall Emilia and those at the mansion, but he was at a point where he had given up on being able to save them. Emilia's selflessness and beauty are pretty undeniable. That's something that Rem started to show a shade of in ep18, and when Subaru fought along side her in the woods against the mabeasts he kinda broke some of that dependence/attachment Rem had with Ram. Before that he was being killed BECAUSE of that link... but also because of their suspicion.

And I haven't been able to find Arc 4 yet, but I'm interested to see, because I think this whole experience with Emilia was engineered by Satella. I'm also thinking there's something weird about Emilia calling herself Satella in Subaru's first life, and then him promising to save her, then in later lives she never refers to that name. I don't recall anyone saying anything about Satella, or the Jealous Witch in his first life. I might have to go back and read through that again.
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Nov 1, 2017 1:26 PM

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Warsloth said:
Prog_upworks13 said:
Reading the web novel translation of arc 4 just made me love Emilia more.

Where in the world are you reading THIS!?!?


Here: https://translationchicken.com/
Nov 1, 2017 1:41 PM

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NitroKageAki said:
Warsloth said:

Where in the world are you reading THIS!?!?


Here: https://translationchicken.com/


You deserve a medal... o7
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Nov 1, 2017 1:42 PM
Voltekka!

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hey @swirlydragon, someone just insulted your waifu!
Nov 1, 2017 1:48 PM
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tragedydesu said:
Trash tier waifu who appeals to people with garbage taste in waifus

Rem all the fucking way

This is just gold.
Nov 4, 2017 6:40 PM
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She did save his life before she knew him a few times.

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