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Sep 24, 2017 7:28 AM
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Manaban said:
It should be noted that there's a line specifically talking about the people who visit cosplay cafes and the like:

"Plus, most of the freaks who come in here hate women and seeing girls degraded gives them boners and makes them happy."

"Maybe think about how these girls feel for once. Maybe they don't want to be degraded just so you can sell a few more chicken wings to horny losers with mommy issues."

If you watch the previous parts of the episode, you'll see that's actually a very valid analysis of the customers portrayed within (well, with the possible exception of the "mommy issues" part.) One literally flashed his genitals at one of the girls, and the rest weren't much better.

If you have an issue with the way the customers of this specific cosplay cafe were portrayed, take it up with the idiot who wrote this sorry excuse for a manga/anime. Funimation ain't the one responsible for that.
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Sep 24, 2017 7:32 AM

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The dub is still overwhelmingly funnier so, much like Kobayashi, I can forgive this.

I still think this is much tamer than Prison School's gratuitous GamerGate line, which people had a right to be upset about.
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Sep 24, 2017 7:41 AM

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Man fuck outta here I don't even watch dubbed series lol.

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dvbx_073 said:
Do people really care about funimation? ರ_ರ

hmm.
Do people really care about dubs?
Dub = fake crap. Always.
Sep 24, 2017 8:01 AM

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And that is why you just stick to subs.
Sep 24, 2017 8:12 AM

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Funimation really needs to get their shit together at this point.

It's bad business, and it does nothing but make themselves look bad. And they'll be feeling the brunt force of the consequences beating down on them soon enough if this continues to be an ongoing issue.

It's really not just an issue with dubbing anime. It's basically a trust issue with customers who want to support the content they love, and the distributors who are entrusted with the duty of being able to provide said content to said customers.

Bad business decisions are bad busisness decisions regardless, so don't screw your customers over, Funi. Otherwise, you're gonna end up going the way of bad distributors before you.
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Milk_is_Special said:
And that is why you just stick to subs.

And I'm one of those weirdos who doesn't mind watching both. Though it really does depend on the show and who's dubbing it, it seems.
Sep 24, 2017 8:16 AM

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That Hajimete no Gal clip sounds like something from an abridged series, lol.
Sep 24, 2017 8:22 AM

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Doesn't affect me. Don't watch dubs. I never once understood people who seek new anime in dub. I just dismiss it as taste differences.

But why do people watch ecchi and moe anime English dubbed is beyond me. Might as well be not watching anime if you don't get the cutesy Japanese anime voice or japanese sexual moans. Then still have the nerve to complain they added cancerous western politics and localised it to talk about 3rd wave western feminism.
BurningSpiritSep 24, 2017 8:26 AM
I'm not a lolicon, you're just projecting your tendency to lewd 2D characters.

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Sep 24, 2017 8:38 AM
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Why would they do this? What's even the point... lmao
Sep 24, 2017 11:27 AM

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Phendrus said:

But if you think Funimation has it out for otakus, you clearly don't know much about the company. Funimation is FILLED with otakus. It'd be like me having it out for gamers.


Well, websites like Polygon and Kotaku are also filled with "gamers", but don't hold back on showing their despise for the community.

Darek said:

@thewiru: if you have any sense of responsibility in you, you will revise your OP to reflect the fact that this was a false rumor so that you may quell the misinformation you spread.


IF i'm wrong then i will, for the time being i still don't see any mistakes in this, but i will double check. You can keep my word on that.
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If it gets you mad, good job I say.

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@thewiru: if you have any sense of responsibility in you, you will revise your OP to reflect the fact that this was a false rumor so that you may quell the misinformation you spread.


lol, these people crave outrage and dwelve in fake news, while at the same they claim everyone else is a special snowflake.


Nope, not me, i also consider buzzwords such as "c*ck" or "snowflake" to be tiresome in an argument.
You shouldn't think that anyone who disagree's with this is a weirdo with a MAGA hat, there are lot's of people with pretty good arguments.
Sep 24, 2017 11:39 AM

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ToskiHero said:
Milk_is_Special said:
And that is why you just stick to subs.

And I'm one of those weirdos who doesn't mind watching both. Though it really does depend on the show and who's dubbing it, it seems.
I pretty much watch everything in sub, except if I watched it in dub first. (Pokemon/DBZ)
Sep 24, 2017 11:57 AM

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Dubbers just know it's shit show so why not abridge it. At least it's funnier that way. The fact they used the line "Bibbidi babbidi boobs" is more insulting.
Sep 24, 2017 12:10 PM
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thewiru said:
Phendrus said:

But if you think Funimation has it out for otakus, you clearly don't know much about the company. Funimation is FILLED with otakus. It'd be like me having it out for gamers.


Well, websites like Polygon and Kotaku are also filled with "gamers", but don't hold back on showing their despise for the community.

Darek said:

@thewiru: if you have any sense of responsibility in you, you will revise your OP to reflect the fact that this was a false rumor so that you may quell the misinformation you spread.


IF i'm wrong then i will, for the time being i still don't see any mistakes in this, but i will double check. You can keep my word on that.
Bernrika said:
If it gets you mad, good job I say.



lol, these people crave outrage and dwelve in fake news, while at the same they claim everyone else is a special snowflake.


Nope, not me, i also consider buzzwords such as "c*ck" or "snowflake" to be tiresome in an argument.
You shouldn't think that anyone who disagree's with this is a weirdo with a MAGA hat, there are lot's of people with pretty good arguments.

but you're wrong bud. @Phendrus have already proved that you're wrong so pleas do us a favor and edit your post.
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Another reason why subs are better than dubs

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Sep 24, 2017 4:59 PM
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Cyborg_Icarus29 said:
Maneki-Mew said:
Why would anyone watch non-Japanese dub anyway? Why the hell are you doing this? Can't you follow the sub or something? Then you don't deserve a correct dub, like srsly... don't your ears bleed?


nah they don't if the dub is good and there are many good dubs that are worth watching.
what did you write in the "spoiler" part ?:P

That dubs are horrible. :D
Sep 24, 2017 5:18 PM

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Cyborg_Icarus29 said:

but you're wrong bud. @Phendrus have already proved that you're wrong so pleas do us a favor and edit your post.


Well, i'm not convinced enough, and i double checked.
Considering that such phrases weren't in the original, i can't see myself being wrong on this one.

But, if someone proves me so, then yes, i'll edit my post.
Sep 24, 2017 5:19 PM

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garbage article. cancerous comments.
Sep 24, 2017 5:26 PM

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thewiru said:
Cyborg_Icarus29 said:

but you're wrong bud. @Phendrus have already proved that you're wrong so pleas do us a favor and edit your post.


Well, i'm not convinced enough, and i double checked.
Considering that such phrases weren't in the original, i can't see myself being wrong on this one.

But, if someone proves me so, then yes, i'll edit my post.

@Phendrus you have seen the episode and you know the context of the jokes in the show. can you convince this fella to edit his post?
Sep 24, 2017 5:31 PM

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it's worth noting that the non-funi sub may not be completely accurate as well. to be sure you'd need to have someone who knows the language well enough to check. not me, i'll stay far away from this.
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Sep 25, 2017 2:17 AM

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Judging by what I have seen of the show, it is about female domination and demand of respect despite sexuality.

When dubbing. I honestly don't give a shit if they put in a few jokes that make more sense to local people.

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Sep 25, 2017 4:21 AM

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We need a lisa simpson in every dub, just saying

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Níl aon tinteán mar do thinteán féin

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Sep 25, 2017 8:48 AM

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You sure are easily offended for a guy whining about easily offended people.

The part about the LN readers is straight up not even true. Like... the article literally made that part up. Why would you jump to that conclusion after reading a single internet article in Portugese that you didn't even fact check? Is that how you came up with your political views?

The 'Millenial SJW' line was just a dumb quip they threw in for a laugh. It was not even slightly politically charged. What's the matter, can't take a joke?

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btw the evil funimation fired the dipshit who wrote the script for prison school
I agree that they're overreacting (Especially considering the reference was thrown out in the Blu-ray version) but:

a) He never had any sort of permanent position at Funimation in the first place; and

b) He reprised his role for the Steins;Gate Movie and was in two shows literally last season

So yeah, just thought I'd clarify

Pharmakon said:
It's 4Kids all over again but this time the SJWs are getting involved.

I'm just waiting for another Ghost Stories-style dub.
Okay, so it's pretty obvious right off the bat that you haven't seen it but I find this comment super funny considering it's way more raunchy and offensive than the original dialogue. It's literally the closest thing I've seen to Ghost Stories since... well, Ghost Stories.

I dunno if you'd like it though. The dialogue has a lot of naughty words, so it's not for easily offended folk like yourself.
Sep 25, 2017 9:59 AM

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SeibaaHomu said:
You sure are easily offended for a guy whining about easily offended people.

The part about the LN readers is straight up not even true. Like... the article literally made that part up. Why would you jump to that conclusion after reading a single internet article in Portugese that you didn't even fact check? Is that how you came up with your political views?

The 'Millenial SJW' line was just a dumb quip they threw in for a laugh. It was not even slightly politically charged. What's the matter, can't take a joke?

Cyborg_Icarus29 said:
btw the evil funimation fired the dipshit who wrote the script for prison school
I agree that they're overreacting (Especially considering the reference was thrown out in the Blu-ray version) but:

a) He never had any sort of permanent position at Funimation in the first place; and

b) He reprised his role for the Steins;Gate Movie and was in two shows literally last season

So yeah, just thought I'd clarify

Pharmakon said:
It's 4Kids all over again but this time the SJWs are getting involved.

I'm just waiting for another Ghost Stories-style dub.
Okay, so it's pretty obvious right off the bat that you haven't seen it but I find this comment super funny considering it's way more raunchy and offensive than the original dialogue. It's literally the closest thing I've seen to Ghost Stories since... well, Ghost Stories.

I dunno if you'd like it though. The dialogue has a lot of naughty words, so it's not for easily offended folk like yourself.

Yeah I know that he's still doing voice work but they won't allow him to write a script again
Sep 25, 2017 10:01 AM

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Pharmakon said:
It's 4Kids all over again but this time the SJWs are getting involved.

I'm just waiting for another Ghost Stories-style dub.

Lol did you even bother to read some of the replies here?
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FUCKERYmation being FUCKERYmation just as usual. What's new?

The legend of the #Gamergate dub failure and Tyson "Fedora" Rinehart will live on forever
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Most of the people that are complaining about this haven't seen the dub, and are under the wrong assumption that Gal is pushing feminist agendas or something like that. They're wrong. The dub is the funniest shit I've seen in awhile, and it ended up turning a mediocre ecchi show to a very enjoyable one.

Seriously, the people that say that shit are like the same ones that say that Utena is a SJW show. It's not.

Stop saying that a harmless, and honestly fucking hilarious line like "Another win for you SJW Millennials" is somehow promoting feminist agendas.
Oct 1, 2017 10:35 AM

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People are saying subs are trash anyway why bother I don't really care.

but the thing is, we were NEVER the target audience of funimation to begin with. the "problem" isn't just about ignoring it and be done with it. the problem is that there WILL BE poor innocent souls that would watch this dub and they will learn about the horrible horrible horrors of patriarchy that is nonexistent. and these poor souls will vote for a leftist cunt like a certain Shillering Cleancunt that promises to, I dunno, stop being anti immigrant anti muslim anti women or whatever.

and tell you what, dubs are paid, subs aren't or they rely on donations. this may just be me being paranoid but there's no one stopping these leftists to start targeting SUBS as well. you know that old saying that goes like this:

first they targeted marvel comics, and I didn't speak out because I don't read SJW crap comics
then they targeted funimation, and I didn't speak out because dubs are trash
then they targeted subs, and no one spoke for my behalf

so yeah, be afraid. be very afraid.

kidlat020Oct 1, 2017 10:41 AM
>I had no brain when I was 12
>Then everyone must had no brain when they were 12
>I experimented 100 samples and proved that they had no brain when they were 12
>Therefore children cannot consent

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Funniest thread I've read in a minute. The line was hilarious and very clearly nothing more than a joke. Get over it =p

Funimation with another quality dub, as per usual.
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kidlat020 said:
People are saying subs are trash anyway why bother I don't really care.

but the thing is, we were NEVER the target audience of funimation to begin with. the "problem" isn't just about ignoring it and be done with it. the problem is that there WILL BE poor innocent souls that would watch this dub and they will learn about the horrible horrible horrors of patriarchy that is nonexistent. and these poor souls will vote for a leftist cunt like a certain Shillering Cleancunt that promises to, I dunno, stop being anti immigrant anti muslim anti women or whatever.

and tell you what, dubs are paid, subs aren't or they rely on donations. this may just be me being paranoid but there's no one stopping these leftists to start targeting SUBS as well. you know that old saying that goes like this:

first they targeted marvel comics, and I didn't speak out because I don't read SJW crap comics
then they targeted funimation, and I didn't speak out because dubs are trash
then they targeted subs, and no one spoke for my behalf

so yeah, be afraid. be very afraid.


calm the heck down pleas. people like you are as annoying as "these leftists" you keep rambling about.
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Thanks for the warning, OP. I don't like watching any entertainment laced with political propaganda so I'll be sure to watch out for these dubs.

I wanted to watch Prison School dubbed though... Mm. I guess if it's moderate virtue signaling, it couldn't hurt.
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_Poochyena_ said:
Thanks for the warning, OP. I don't like watching any entertainment laced with political propaganda so I'll be sure to watch out for these dubs.

I wanted to watch Prison School dubbed though... Mm. I guess if it's moderate virtue signaling, it couldn't hurt.

they fixed the prison school dub in the BD so it doesn't have any shitty lines now.
the OP's claim is trash btw.
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Cyborg_Icarus29 said:
_Poochyena_ said:
Thanks for the warning, OP. I don't like watching any entertainment laced with political propaganda so I'll be sure to watch out for these dubs.

I wanted to watch Prison School dubbed though... Mm. I guess if it's moderate virtue signaling, it couldn't hurt.

they fixed the prison school dub in the BD so it's it doesn't have any shitty lines now.
the OP's claim is trash btw.


Thanks for the heads up
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_Poochyena_ said:
Cyborg_Icarus29 said:

they fixed the prison school dub in the BD so it's it doesn't have any shitty lines now.
the OP's claim is trash btw.


Thanks for the heads up

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Hajimete no Gal is shit. Funimation isn't gonna make it better. It'll probably be worse since they are assaulting my ears in my native language
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Wow, what a thread, haha. I just saw the episode today (and subsequently finished the whole anime), and more than anything I'm just miffed. Not 'triggered' or 'offended' by SJW language or whatever, I just don't see the need for it. I like watching dumb, trashy anime like this for the reason OF getting away from all this stuff, so it was just cringy hearing some of these lines. Yes, some of it is jokes, and often the stuff said are being written for characters that are morally reprehensible anyway (the cosplay cafe store manager, the main character's friends, etc). So in that regard, you can view it as character portrayal.

But I think was irks people, myself included, is this weird virtue signalling aspect that seems to come outta nowhere. It's like 'hey you, look at these boobs, but respect women you weirdo!'. It's like, uh, why does that need to be said? I think back to ecchi/comedy anime like B Gata H Kei (one of my favorite dubs) and it had a lot of similar themes to this; hot girl gets with nerdy guy (except she's trying to get into HIS pants), but it didn't have all these buzz words. Or any of these insinuations. Or, ecchi/action anime like Sekirei; it never once needed to have characters recite preachy lines, or go out its way to have this SJW mentality, but it still managed to have a positive message about respecting women as equals and partners whilst also appreciating their sexuality. Sex positive messages are great, so the SJW filter is pointless.

And no, I'm not some rampant dub/ Funimation hater. In fact, I can confirm that the Shimoneta blu-ray has next to no 'SJW' or political crap at all, not even for the characters that you THINK would be SJWs. So it really makes the placing of this dialogue seem inconsistent. And it's not like anyone has an issue with a message of 'women are people too', obviously not. Just seems weird that, at times with the dub, it goes out of its way to spell it in golden letters as if the anime viewers are the misogynistic sort its dialogue seemed to be lambasting.

Overall, I liked the beginning and end of this anime; nerdy guy who wants sex and seemingly slutty gal both end up being pretty alright people and fall in love. The buzzwords and SJW stuff was eye-rollingly bad, and an unfortunate distraction from what is otherwise hilarious writing. In fact, the next episode has a hilarious and accurate description of NTR, and the main character’s friends make constant jokes about how he’ll be cucked.
This ‘controversy’ just comes from fear, and I get that. A fear that anime fans are being hated on and treated like the creeps and women haters that the outside world sees them to be, except that it’s coming from the inside. When Funimation does stuff like this, people just freak out cause they think that the very people giving them their trashy/fanservice anime (which I’m into, not a knock on it) are also calling them bad people for consuming the media. Ultimately you gotta take a step back and get some perspective. It is sad in a way though cause the fear is real, and it makes you feel like you’re not cared for, and you can’t enjoy the dubbed anime without it being preachy. BUT, it’s not that Funimation is a SJW monolith that’s out to murder otaku fandom, as Shimoneta, DxD and plenty of other anime are often free of this sort of dialogue.

TL;DR- cringey lines in a trashy anime, muddled by the (maybe) personal politics of the show writers, however there is a mountain of nuance behind this. And boy do people hate nuance, regardless of what ‘side’ they’re on, including the side that claims to hate both sides and I find them the most obnoxious, haha. Just watch your damn anime and support the ones you care about.
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Cyborg_Icarus29 said:
kidlat020 said:
People are saying subs are trash anyway why bother I don't really care.

but the thing is, we were NEVER the target audience of funimation to begin with. the "problem" isn't just about ignoring it and be done with it. the problem is that there WILL BE poor innocent souls that would watch this dub and they will learn about the horrible horrible horrors of patriarchy that is nonexistent. and these poor souls will vote for a leftist cunt like a certain Shillering Cleancunt that promises to, I dunno, stop being anti immigrant anti muslim anti women or whatever.

and tell you what, dubs are paid, subs aren't or they rely on donations. this may just be me being paranoid but there's no one stopping these leftists to start targeting SUBS as well. you know that old saying that goes like this:

first they targeted marvel comics, and I didn't speak out because I don't read SJW crap comics
then they targeted funimation, and I didn't speak out because dubs are trash
then they targeted subs, and no one spoke for my behalf

so yeah, be afraid. be very afraid.


calm the heck down pleas. people like you are as annoying as "these leftists" you keep rambling about.


very original argument you got there.
>I had no brain when I was 12
>Then everyone must had no brain when they were 12
>I experimented 100 samples and proved that they had no brain when they were 12
>Therefore children cannot consent

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@kidlat020
i'm not trying to have an argument with you tho.
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and I'm saying your reply is so generic it has lost it's flavor. kind of like saying "manchildren" is negative in the insult meter.
>I had no brain when I was 12
>Then everyone must had no brain when they were 12
>I experimented 100 samples and proved that they had no brain when they were 12
>Therefore children cannot consent

This is what science has done to humanity.
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