Owari S2 now has the highest percentage of (troll/illegitimate) 1/10s on this site (with the the exception of select few polarizing titles)

Rasquale said:
It's currently sitting at 2%

Takamura-sama said:


I don't believe that.
Mars of destruction? Pupa?

Nomar_95 said:
This sickens me. Sure, Owari 2 being at #1 is a bit excessive (I say this despite giving it a 10), but it beating out Your Name and FMAB isn't proper justification for the influx of 1s that people keep giving it. I can't believe that people would compromise their own lists or go through the trouble of making alt accounts just to drop down it's score. If we're being completely honest here, I don't think Your Name deserves to be top 100, never mind top 3 (I don't think it's bad, but it just doesn't compare to everything else in the top 100). I can't see Owari 2 leaving the top 10 any time soon, but it's pretty annoying to see the lengths people will go to unfairly score it

TheHeckle said:
But then again 56.8% of the score are 10/10s'

DatRandomDude said:
Doesnt change the fact that giving 1/10 because a certain anime his higher than your favorite or to ''balance'' the score because you dont think its worth this score is retarded and childish.

Most of the 10/10 are normal, its the goddamn finale of the main story and of course most of the people watching this at this point are fans or completionist.

Brb said:

So... Basically same story as what happens with Gintama?

Da5h said:
Should've never made it into top 10/20 anyway, it was added in the database without episode count thus ignoring the 1/5 rule and MAL took in consideration the scores given by people who didnt watch it and i mean scores from plan to watch list, also it's full of fake accounts like this one
https://myanimelist.net/profile/xedoxzarea

_Ako_ said:
10/10 56.8%

I wonder how many of 'em are trolls too.

LuffyZoro said:


There's a difference, the 10's are justified. It just means people really love the show, the 1's are ridiculous since we already know they're from people who haven't even watched it.

Brb said:

So... Basically same story as what happens with Gintama?

_Ako_ said:


Mfw actually legit hating a series can be considered troll now...

I fear for Elitist's life...


>There's a difference, the 10's are justified

Why? Because it's on the majority's side? Are you saying when the circumstances is reverse, then those whose who rate it 10/10 would be troll?


EDIT: If you see that there are troll about it, then just report it and stop being butthurt. Go to DB site where you can report those alts that lowers down a series' score or something like that...

I'm sure there is one there that DB Mods oversee the thread.

What I'm getting at, is this:

There are trolls all over the world, especially in here. 10/10 can have trolls too while 1/10 can have trolls too. That's all there is too it. Mods will take care of it if there are people who have noticed this and report it.

Well, basically, what I'm getting at is when you have a lot of free time to shit about it, why not report those trollers then?

Kittens-kun said:


I mean, if someone actually hated Owari S2 that much, you have to wonder why they didn't drop series. I doubt that almost any of those 1's are legit.

_Ako_ said:


https://myanimelist.net/anime/17074/Monogatari_Series__Second_Season/stats

I'm still wondering why those 312 users still didn't drop it.

Ohh no! They might be also trolls... :/


Also. Again, I'm not here to be on the back-and-forth argue shit about ratings and speculations as to why those users have to be that. I'm here, just to say "Hey if you feel like devoting that many time to this thread blabbering about the trolls, why don't you at least try to report them?"

Troll raters or whatever you want to call them has always been part of MAL. Heck even parasites that troll and bait thread in forum exist... :/

Kittens-kun said:


Yeah, a lot of them probably are. Your example proves nothing.

_Ako_ said:


Is it my time now to whine at the mods who don't kick those shitty trolls now?

I think my example has proved something... Just look again, you might have not noticed it... :/


Ohhh now that you mention it... Are you perhaps, one of those 56.8% users?

Mhhh... It might possibly why... Yeah I guess... I might be wrong though...

Kittens-kun said:
You can tell me that there's trolls on both side of the spectrum, but the downvoters are larger in number and worse by far.

_Ako_ said:


That's what I've been telling you. troll exist on both side of the spectrum on the rating scale.


As I remember you mentioned that "If they rate Owarimonogatari S2 1/10, they should have dropped it by now" or something like that

Then I posted the stats for Monogatari S2 in which have 1/10 of around 1%. The point is, they rated it 1/10 despite not enjoying the series....

Ohhh well, now that we're at it, I do know that the 1/10 % will be reduce since mods will hunt those users down.

HaXXspetten said:
Well this happens to every anime that gets super high ratings to some extent. The ones which are the most blatantly boosted by the sequel effect and the 1/5 rule (such as Gintama and Owari) will end up feeling less legit to most people and thus it's understandable if more people end up getting triggered by their scores than more credible ones such as Steins;Gate or Kimi no Na wa. So it's pretty logical that Owari ends up with more 1/10s relatively speaking

Mind you that doesn't mean I approve of this by any means, but you can kind of consider it an unavoidable consequence of MAL's scoring system considering the size of its userbase. We'd be better off without these kinds of downvoting alts, but at the same time it's ridiculous that an anime can get boosted this high in the first place. I think above all it showcases why so many people want the ranking system to change fundamentally in order to avoid these kinds of incidents in the first place (such as collapsing multiple seasons/entries from the same franchise into one combined entry with a global weighted score instead, IMDB style)

BurstChaos said:
In other news, water is wet!!

Bu what do you expect; only Monogatari fans and no-droppers would watch it to this point. Gatari fans are kind of bound to give this a high score (usually 7+, mostly 10's, obviously) and no-droppers will probably also give it a decent score. While it's rate of 1/10's is more than likely unjustified (I dropped Monogatari after SS, so I can't speak for it) the 10/10's are also coming from a mostly unfair source, which is not a problem with the series but a problem with MAL.

Kruzy said:


The thing is that none of the scores are credible at all because a big part of the community misuses the rating scale. Most times than not when you're visiting a person's list, you'll find them using a 5-10 scale where 6 is considered a "bad show" by them. On one hand, from an enjoyment standpoint, anything below 7-8 could be considered bad because you wouldn't want to waste your time on a show like that but it's nonetheless misused since 6 is more like "slightly above the average" than anything.

Couple that with the fact that the majority of peeps misusing this would be of younger age and how target demographics works, you'll end up finding yourself with titles containing more misused scales than others which would result in their score being bloated.

It's nothing that you can fully fix and some would try to use algorithms that would try to counter it but it's never fully gone even then. So there's always a tidbit of salt needed when looking at scores.

buuhhu said:
Fmab back at number one
my faith has been restored!

Kruzy said:

The thing is that none of the scores are credible at all because a big part of the community misuses the rating scale. Most times than not when you're visiting a person's list, you'll find them using a 5-10 scale where 6 is considered a "bad show" by them. On one hand, from an enjoyment standpoint, anything below 7-8 could be considered bad because you wouldn't want to waste your time on a show like that but it's nonetheless misused since 6 is more like "slightly above the average" than anything.

Kruzy said:


I base my own statement on my experience after spending 4 years on this website and data on AniDB.

For example Bleach which is a rather popular but not necessarily well regarded show, the ratings are:
- 8.01 by those aged <18.
- 7.69 by those aged 18-24.
- 7.45 by those aged 25-34.
- 7.37 by those aged 35-44.

While the weighted rating changed by the algorithm is:
- 6.38 by those aged <18 (difference of 1.63)
- 6.25 by those aged 18-24 (difference of 1.44)
- 6.21 by those aged 25-34 (difference of 1.24)
- 6.38 by those aged 35-44 (difference of 0.99)

And this is AniDB which is rather known in the community as the "critical anime watchers".

zombie_pegasus said:
What counts as a troll 1/10 as apposed to a legit 1/10? School Days has 6% 1s, are those troll scores or did those people all think it was worth that? What about Boku no Pico with it's 26.5% 1s or Skelter Heaven with its 63.9% 1s? Are these troll scores or legit ratings? Are all of Bananya's 10s troll scores or did some of those people actually think it was a masterpiece?

karton_realista said:

For one, if somebody hasn't watched the show and suddenly gave 9th season a 1 you can be 100% sure that's an illegitimate score, regardless of whether they watched that season or not.
Or if somebody has only few anime rated, no profile picture, and a 1 on a continuation of a show they haven't watched.

zombie_pegasus said:
How would you know about all of them, though? Would you get a bot to check through every single 1 to see if they're legit or trolls?

Pullman said:
It also has more (troll) 10/10s than any of the other top rated shows.

Rasquale said:

Not really. if you look at the sudden spike in this season's rating as opposed to the other entries in the series, it shouldn't be hard to consider this season as an outlier in the series in terms of quality and fan reception. There's also the fact that the Monogatari fans haven't elicited this sort of behavior in the past seeing as how most of the previous entries that were well into the series and were boosted by the sequel effect didn't even break the top 100. I find it hard to believe that the fans all banded together all of a sudden to boost this entry to the top. It's far more likely that this season was just legitimately good

Fang said:
What makes me laugh, though is the amount of people that have started watching it without ever seeing an episode of the previous seasons. It's the 10th season and the 2nd part to the 8th season. What did they expect? Lol. So yeah, the 1's are coming from some of those people and the down/upvote alt accounts.