Putin Declares Syria gas attack was a false flag

KazuroWeisemann said:
So what are your thoughts on this?

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/putin-declares-syrian-attack-false-flag/

kodial said:
I believe Putin.
Assad would never gas his own people, even if he didn't care for them. He knows this would only bring him troubles.

kodial said:
I believe Putin.
Assad would never gas his own people, even if he didn't care for them. He knows this would only bring him troubles.

hazerddex said:


not like you have a choice to believe in putin or not remember what happened to the other people who did not trust putin *cough* polonium tea *cough*
i mean look at the man hes so trustworthy
its not like every time he has competition for power or people who speak out against him.r the other group mysteriously go missing or are found dead.

Comic_Sans said:
Because it's not like dictators have easy baked their own people before, amirite?

swirlydragon said:


You forgot to mention Bush here

swirlydragon said:


You forgot to mention Bush here

KazuroWeisemann said:
Lets make a chart of how many US presidents killed the People in Middle East .. Contestants would be Bush , Obama , Bill Clinton and Trump.

DrGeroCreation said:
LBJ too with Agent Orange on the Vietnamese.

http://vietnamawbb.weebly.com/napalm-agent-orange.html

"Agent Orange is fifty times more concentrated than normal agricultural herbicides; this extreme intensity completely destroyed all plants in the area. Agent Orange not only had devastating effects on agriculture but also on people and animals. The Vietnam Red Cross recorded over 4.8 million deaths and 400,000 children born with birth defects due to exposure to Agent Orange.

Agent Orange was later determined to be in violation of the Geneva Contract."

swirlydragon said:

OR THEY JUST SIMPLY ENJOY KILLING?

swirlydragon said:


Trump ain't done nothing right now though he might do it in the future.
You should get out of Saudi Arabia as fast as you can.
India is a lot safer I guess

LBJ too with Agent Orange on the Vietnamese.

http://vietnamawbb.weebly.com/napalm-agent-orange.html

"Agent Orange is fifty times more concentrated than normal agricultural herbicides; this extreme intensity completely destroyed all plants in the area. Agent Orange not only had devastating effects on agriculture but also on people and animals. The Vietnam Red Cross recorded over 4.8 million deaths and 400,000 children born with birth defects due to exposure to Agent Orange.

Agent Orange was later determined to be in violation of the Geneva Contract."

swirlydragon said:


What in the great Vaginal fuck am I reading?
ARE ALL AMERICAN PRESIDENTS RETARDED?
OR THEY JUST SIMPLY ENJOY KILLING?

DrGeroCreation said:
They enjoy killing non Americans.

KazuroWeisemann said:


So much that if you bomb their harbor , They will nuke two of our cities .. And if you try to assassinate their president .. They will bomb your country ..

swirlydragon said:


You forgot to mention Bush here

Comic_Sans said:
Last time I checked Bush wasn't a dictator and he didn't kill his own people, point discarded.

kodial said:
I believe Putin.
Assad would never gas his own people, even if he didn't care for them. He knows this would only bring him troubles.

swirlydragon said:
Oh please!
Assad did not kill his own people
Last time media blamed him for that too but after some time, it was found out that the rebels did it.
EVIDENCE SHOWS THE PENTAGON TRAINED SYRIA’S AL QAEDA “REBELS” IN THE USE OF CHEMICAL WEAPONS

ErwinJA said:

And actually, large-scale chemical strikes like this last one, and the previous one mentioned, could not have been effectively employed by the rebels with the equipment they are known to possess. They lack effective delivery methods, and are limited in their available agents without a professional-level facility.

Monad said:


I am going with this too. When you view a situation you have to see what motives and reason exist.

Assad has none. He is currently winning and suddenly gassing people will only bring trouble that might interapt his winning march against the rebels and ISIS and on top of that he will get the vicious dictator treatment from western countries and become bigger target for them to overthrow.
And what does he gain by this? Nothing, killing some civilians won't give him anything and as we already said he ain't desperate since his winning the normal way against his opponents.

There is absolutely zero sense for him to be doing this at this moment.
Even if we assume his as cruel as it can get, to believe he did it we also have to assume his not just cruel but completely stupid as well.
On the other hand those fighting against him and losing might want to use such a weapon as a desperate attempt to bring other powers to help them.

Comic_Sans said:
This fits you like a gloveI know you Kreml fags will bend over backwards at all times to try to justify your side's actions or blame them on somebody else, but really, this is retarded even for your kind.

Until you can provide me actual evidence apart from some shitty conspiracy theory website, I will consider your so called "truth" to be nothing but fairy tales and myths.

KazuroWeisemann said:
Conspiracy theory? Its the words from the Russian president and also an Investigation from a member of the UN .. And this is not the first time they had been lying .. They have lied more than enough times .. Putin also confirmed that the ISIS was created because of the US and the members of the G20 countires are funding it .. Do some research on your own beofre completely trusting highly Biased News of the US media ..

swirlydragon said:


Don't bother talking with her. She is brainwashed by western media. If a person is muslim then she'll believe every negative thing someone has to say about him (without a proof).

@Comic_Sans

Shut up!
Assad isn't a dictator
He was chosen by his own people. He is doing everything he can to fight ISIS and make his country better. He is not like those Saudi sheikhs who keep women as their slaves AND YET US SUPPORTS SAUDI AND ATTACKS SYRIA!
Also, since Trump loves muslims so much (since he attacks Syria because of it) then WHY IS HE SILENT WHEN SAUDI SLAUGHTERS THOUSANDS OF YEMEN CHILDREN USING THE WEAPONS THAT USA PROVIDED THEM?
Tell me why?
Can you answer that?
I'll tell you why, it's because Saudi provides oil to USA while Syria doesn't
Assad is also pro-religious and he believes in freedom but he is powerless against USA. He has been fighting USA for over a decade
Bashar al Assad is Protecting Christians in Syria
Media had no evidence to support that Assad did the chemical attack and yet they blamed him (without a proper investigation).
They heard about the chemical attack and then they blamed Assad, that's it!

KazuroWeisemann said:


Ok alright ..

Saudi Sheikhs don't keep women as slaves btw .. Slavery is Illegal so only ISIS keeps slaves ..

Fun fact .. I wonder who broadcasts confidential atrocities happening INSIDE ISIS to the entire media and call it 'Leaked Footage' ..

KazuroWeisemann said:
Conspiracy theory? Its the words from the Russian president and also an Investigation from a member of the UN .. And this is not the first time they had been lying .. They have lied more than enough times .. Putin also confirmed that the ISIS was created because of the US and the members of the G20 countires are funding it .. Do some research on your own beofre completely trusting highly Biased News of the US media ..

swirlydragon said:
@Comic_Sans

Shut up!
Assad isn't a dictator
He was chosen by his own people. He is doing everything he can to fight ISIS and make his country better. He is not like those Saudi sheikhs who keep women as their slaves AND YET US SUPPORTS SAUDI AND ATTACKS SYRIA!
Also, since Trump loves muslims so much (since he attacks Syria because of it) then WHY IS HE SILENT WHEN SAUDI SLAUGHTERS THOUSANDS OF YEMEN CHILDREN USING THE WEAPONS THAT USA PROVIDED THEM?
Tell me why?
Can you answer that?
I'll tell you why, it's because Saudi provides oil to USA while Syria doesn't
Assad is also pro-religious and he believes in freedom but he is powerless against USA. He has been fighting USA for over a decade
Bashar al Assad is Protecting Christians in Syria
Media had no evidence to support that Assad did the chemical attack and yet they blamed him (without a proper investigation).
They heard about the chemical attack and then they blamed Assad, that's it!

Comic_Sans said:
Cuba is also a democracy on paper, that does not make it an actual democracy.

Now you're straw manning again and acting like I said I supported the United States' actions and Saudi Arabia, despite the fact that I never said I did. Not trusting Assad and Russia in this particular case ≠ supporting the United States and Saudi Arabia unexceptionally. Seriously, take off that victim complex cardigan of yours.

swirlydragon said:
So then you expect me to believe that Assad did the chemical attack?
I'd rather believe Assad than believing USA who invaded Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, etc on a false pretense. They are doing the same with Syria. In fact USA has killed more than 4 million people by invading middle east. On the other hand, what did Assad do, huh?
He can't save all civilians because US provides ISIS and rebels with weapons every now and then. He is doing his best for his country

Comic_Sans said:
As I said before, dictators have killed their own people before, so it's not improbable at all that he did it.

swirlydragon said:
Do you have proof for that?
He is not a dictator!
STOP WITH ALL YOUR LIES AND ARGUMENTUM AD POPULUM!
You are pathetic!

Comic_Sans said:
What argument ad populum? Syria ranks 166 out of 167 on the democracy index list and 173 out of 176 on the corruption perceptions index. It's not my fault that the truth doesn't suit your narrative.

Comic_Sans said:
So after having praised Putin like he's the second coming of Jesus and continuously treating his word like gospel ("It's the words from the Russian president") you're accusing me of "completely trusting the highly biased news of the US media" despite the fact that I have criticized mainstream media more than just a couple of times before.

GG Kreml fagsCuba is also a democracy on paper, that does not make it an actual democracy.

Now you're straw manning again and acting like I said I supported the United States' actions and Saudi Arabia, despite the fact that I never said I did. Not trusting Assad and Russia in this particular case ≠ supporting the United States and Saudi Arabia unexceptionally. Seriously, take off that victim complex cardigan of yours.

swirlydragon said:
Syria is already a warzone
You can't compare Syria with other countries
IF YOU HAVE PROOF TO SHOW THAT ASSAD IS A DICTATOR THEN GO AHEAD!
AND IF YOU DON'T, THEN KEEP ALL OF YOUR DELUSIONAL STUFF TO YOURSELF!

Comic_Sans said:
Syria ranks 166 out of 167 on the democracy index list and 173 out of 176 on the corruption perceptions index. It's not my fault that the truth doesn't suit your narrative.

KazuroWeisemann said:
Nope .. I am just gave reasons based on facts .. How many time has US media lied? Now compare it with how many times Putin has lied? When nobody had the guts to publicly say ISIS has relations with the US , He went and said it in a meeting broadcasted world wide .. And what has Trump done? Used 59 Tomohawk missiles to accomplish ABSOLUTELY nothing .. Do you even know much it costed? The Western media is so vastly read across the world .. Do you think the Government won't use it to gain favour?

GG Kreml fags

Comic_Sans said:
Oh trust me, I can compare it all I want to other countries.

I have proof, I included it in the post you just replied to:

swirlydragon said:
Oh I don't see a proof except a shitty picture of world dictators which doesn't even talk about Assad.
You are desperate to defend your argument (even though you know, you've lost), aren't you?

Comic_Sans said:
Even back in 2006 it ranked 153 out of 167 on the democracy index list and 93 out of 163 on the corruption index list. In comparison, Saudi Arabia currently ranks 159 out of 167 and 62 out of 176. Is Saudi Arabia a democracy?

Comic_Sans said:
I didn't post a picture in this post. I did, however, write:

swirlydragon said:
As I said, Syria is a warzone for now. You can't compare it with other countries
Here's a map of Syria, can you call this a country?
Can you even compare it with other countries?
The Syrian government controls less than 25% of Syria.

[i*mg]http://interactive.aljazeera.com/aje/syriamap/syriacontrolmap.jpg[/img]

Even back in 2006 it ranked 153 out of 167 on the democracy index list and 93 out of 163 on the corruption index list. In comparison, Saudi Arabia currently ranks 159 out of 167 and 62 out of 176. Is Saudi Arabia a democracy?

Comic_Sans said:
If you had bothered to actually read through my post you would have seen that I also included the democracy index ranking for Syria from 2006, i.e. back when Syria was not at war:So yes, I can compare it all I want, and no scibbedi-doobie-dooing from your side is ever going to change that.

swirlydragon said:
Well then show me the URL or any proof to support your claim
I don't want your blank claims, I want proof. VALID PROOF!
I've provided tons of them. What did you provide, huh?
NOTHING!

Comic_Sans said:
Don't worry, I've got the links right here.

Democracy Index 2016:
http://pages.eiu.com/rs/783-XMC-194/images/Democracy_Index_2016.pdf

Democracy Index 2006:
http://www.economist.com/media/pdf/DEMOCRACY_TABLE_2007_v3.pdf

Corruption Index 2016:
http://www.transparency.org/news/feature/corruption_perceptions_index_2016#table

Corruption Index 2006:
http://www.transparency.org/research/cpi/cpi_2006

Of course, you'll probably try to find a way to twist this around, but the truth is the truth and there is nothing you can do about it.

Dr-Eyes said:
@Comic_Sans

I dont like to intervene in your discussion but I just went to google to check the Democracy and Corruption Index and it seems that Sweden for example is in the Top 5. Even though your government is known for censoring and punishing people who say the wrong opinions. That sounds anti democracy and anti free speech which is corruption. Yet they are placed higher OR same as countries which are not known for such problems like for example Iceland! or Switzerland or Japan etc..

My point is how can we trust this Index if it places Sweden so high with all the recent scandals in their system? Could it be that this Index is Biased?

Not to discredit your point about Middle east countries. They are corrupt and less Democratic than the European and East Asian countries, that is for sure. I'm +1 with you on this.

Anyway just wanted an explanation to that, I dont mind biased sources as long as they make sense in their articles and at least have some useful information or good arguments in them, I'm not one of those "source whores" who keep playing the sources tactics like mindless sheep.

swirlydragon said:
You know what?
You may be right. The Syrian government might be shitty but that still doesn't prove that Assad is a dictator
So tell me, why do you call him a dictator?

Comic_Sans said:
What else would I call the leader of an authoritarian regime? Santa Claus?

Dr-Eyes said:
Not to discredit your point about Middle east countries. They are corrupt and less Democratic than the European and East Asian countries, that is for sure. I'm +1 with you on this.

Comic_Sans said:
Oh trust me, I can compare it all I want to other countries.

I have proof, I included it in the post you just replied to:Even back in 2006 it ranked 153 out of 167 on the democracy index list and 93 out of 163 on the corruption index list. In comparison, Saudi Arabia currently ranks 159 out of 167 and 62 out of 176. Is Saudi Arabia a democracy?How many times has Kremlin media spouted lies? A whole lot of times. But oh no, there is no chance whatsoever that some of the things Western media claims about Russia may be true, simply because of the fact that they are the Western media.

Yes, because there is absolutely no chance whatsoever that the Russian government would want to use their resources to gain influence, twist facts and "red pill" easily indoctrinated idiots who'll accuse the other side of blindly trusting everything Western media says, all while treating Kremlin's words like gospel and doing the exact same thing that they accuse the other side of doing, except that they're worshipping Kremlin's words instead of the evil West's.

Like I said before:

KazuroWeisemann said:
First of all .. Drink a glass of water .. And stop using Insults and sarcasms in your comment .. This isn't a playground .. Have I used a single offensive comment? There you have it ..

Secondly , I am not a supporter of Russia if thats what you claim .. Its not like I started believing it AFTER Putin said it .. I have done research on my own .. Putin and the US lady statement was just a stamp of approval .. If trump has said the same thing as Putin I would have believed him .

Thirdly , You seem offended but I didn't insult you , You are just offended by the fact that your country is Rightly bashed (Even if you are not from US , Its mirror clear you are supporting it) We are talking on a neutral basis here .. Throw your patriotism out of the window ..

Now we have that cleared away .. We have a third witness for the False flag .. And by now the entire Internet knows that Assad was not responsible ..

http://yournewswire.com/army-chief-chemical-attack-hoax/

Also a few years back Assad made a statement about Chemical weapons .. He said :-

President Assad said in 2015:

Using these types of weapons would heavily hurt the government because the world looks down upon the use of chemical weapons and syria wants more friends and partners in the war against terrorism , And not lose friends and supporters by using Internationally banned weapons.

The rest what you believe is up to you and you ll receive know further replies ..

And just a little prediction .. You will still not accept it .. *Sigh* Ignorance ..