Attack on Titan
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| I'm a bit confused, so who is the "founding titan"???? |
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nearbaskara said: I'm a bit confused, so who is the "founding titan"???? Initially? Ymir is the founding Titan. Right now Eren (Yaeger) holds both the Founding Titan (Coordinate) and the Attacker Titan powers. Grisha had the Attacker, stole the Coordinate from the Reiss family and passed both onto Eren. |
| I wonder if Eren's lifespan as a Titan shifter is different because he has two of the abilities inside him? Is it still 13? Is it 26? Is it 7.5 because he has to house twice as much power? |
Lefty112 said: nearbaskara said: I'm a bit confused, so who is the "founding titan"???? Initially? Ymir is the founding Titan. Right now Eren (Yaeger) holds both the Founding Titan (Coordinate) and the Attacker Titan powers. Grisha had the Attacker, stole the Coordinate from the Reiss family and passed both onto Eren. Okay, but why Eren didn't get the memory of the first king? isn't that titan will transfer the memory to the next shifter? like what the Reiss family did? |
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nearbaskara said: Lefty112 said: Initially? Ymir is the founding Titan. Right now Eren (Yaeger) holds both the Founding Titan (Coordinate) and the Attacker Titan powers. Grisha had the Attacker, stole the Coordinate from the Reiss family and passed both onto Eren. Okay, but why Eren didn't get the memory of the first king? isn't that titan will transfer the memory to the next shifter? like what the Reiss family did? I think Eren is still slowly gaining memories from the previous holders. He didn't initially get the Reiss memories, it took time. As the series continues I'm sure he'll gain more and more memories from the previous holders. |
| Well, Attack Titan clearly doesn't sound as good as a series name, I guess the name we got is better even if its not right. |
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Lefty112 said: I think Eren is still slowly gaining memories from the previous holders. He didn't initially get the Reiss memories, it took time. As the series continues I'm sure he'll gain more and more memories from the previous holders. I wonder if Eren will know all the truth when he reaches his titan-age limit :lel it would be sooo cliffhanger :lol I forgot bbout Ymir, we have both characters using that name. Ymir and Ymir Fritz. There's this character Ilse Langnar, who was mistaken by a random titan as "Lady Ymir". Which Ymir that titan mention? *wiki said Ymir, so is Ymir a royal before? this is pretty confusing |
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| Did Grisha name Eren after the owl because he was planning to give him his titan powers since the day he was born? |
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| Wow amazing. The story of Grisha is beyond epic, the quote just closed the chapter so well. Eren has a lot to live up to. |
Raichi_ said: Did Grisha name Eren after the owl because he was planning to give him his titan powers since the day he was born? That, and also probably because he admired him. Thus gave his own son the same name of the guy that changed his life forever. |
| "The Attack Titan" Nice one Hajime. |
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| Eren Krüger. Or Eren Krueger. Definitively not "Kruger". Unless it's meant to be "Kluger" or "Klüger" or "Klueger". |
| Anybody get hyped to re-read chapter 71, thanks to last few pictures? Time to re-read bystander point of view with knowing Grisha's past. Lefty112 said: I wonder if Eren's lifespan as a Titan shifter is different because he has two of the abilities inside him? Is it still 13? Is it 26? Is it 7.5 because he has to house twice as much power? That is exactly what Iam thinking of now. nearbaskara said: I forgot bbout Ymir, we have both characters using that name. Ymir and Ymir Fritz. There's this character Ilse Langnar, who was mistaken by a random titan as "Lady Ymir". Which Ymir that titan mention? *wiki said Ymir, so is Ymir a royal before? this is pretty confusing Don't forget Reiner gave letter from Ymir to Historia. Maybe she knows something interesting too. Even thou she makes it looks like she's some Eldians victim of Marley oppresion, whose got titanized and ate one little warrior after sixty years. But maybe she has something much greater. Like i vaguely remember scene with Reiner(or Bertholt?) in castle before clash of titans, where she read some info printed on food can or something, maybe she is even much older, like reincarnation of first Ymir. At this point Iam sure that name Ymir is not just coincidence. With all that preshadowing and stuff. But it would be pretty surpraising learn, that Ymir were eaten by Zeke or another warrior offscreen. |
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| long chatting chapter, but at the end there is cool "the name is Shingeki no Kyojin", sounds like the story really start now haha |
| attack tittan some quite info we got in this chapter only 7 years left for him but author will find some way AkiKitazawa said: WyNdZ said: How the hell is Zeke still alive? I think it's safe to assume Zeke didn't immediately receive the titan powers, but only when he was somewhat older. If I recall, they were still "training" him. there are nine Titans , maybe that's power of his Titan |
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Mumma said: Far what I read was when Grisha said he was going to show Eren the basement it was the same day that the first titan attack happened, which was 5 years ago. It's also the same day when Eren ate Grisha.. Unless I misunderstood what you said. EDIT(added): Actually the more I'm reading and paying attention to the timelines, I think the manga makers have just made few mistakes with the timelines. If Keith met Grisha 20 years ago and Grisha died 5 years ago... And Eren is 15 (according to attack on titan wiki) and in order Eren to be born he should have been inside the wall for a year that to happen, meaning he was there for least 11 years (+5 for being dead). It's either a mistake to add 20 years, or it's a roundup 20 from 16 (or 18), but that to me makes no sense to add 4 more years to it. And I hardly think Eren's mom banged Grisha almost instantly after they met each other. But at the same time it does state (in the wiki, havent seen it in the manga) that Grisha was found at the year 832 and died in year 845, which counts up as 13. So there is still 2 years missing from that add up. I also didn't see Grisha looking as thin and dying like Owl was looking like when his 13 years were up. I don't know why this is bothering me so much, but I guess it's nothing important and maybe the 20 years was lost in the translation and meant "almost 20 years ago" check it in here, basically it is justified though. Year 832 - Keith found Grisha outside the wall. Year 832 - 834 - Grisha and Carla is married. Year 835 - Eren is born. Year 844 - Mikasa's parent are dead. Year 845 - Colo and armor titans appeared. Carla is dead. Grisha gave Eren his titan power Yeah Grisha plays quick he bangs girl that he's just known for 1-2 years. In real life impossible but hey, if it works it ain't stupid. |
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nearbaskara said: Mumma said: Far what I read was when Grisha said he was going to show Eren the basement it was the same day that the first titan attack happened, which was 5 years ago. It's also the same day when Eren ate Grisha.. Unless I misunderstood what you said. EDIT(added): Actually the more I'm reading and paying attention to the timelines, I think the manga makers have just made few mistakes with the timelines. If Keith met Grisha 20 years ago and Grisha died 5 years ago... And Eren is 15 (according to attack on titan wiki) and in order Eren to be born he should have been inside the wall for a year that to happen, meaning he was there for least 11 years (+5 for being dead). It's either a mistake to add 20 years, or it's a roundup 20 from 16 (or 18), but that to me makes no sense to add 4 more years to it. And I hardly think Eren's mom banged Grisha almost instantly after they met each other. But at the same time it does state (in the wiki, havent seen it in the manga) that Grisha was found at the year 832 and died in year 845, which counts up as 13. So there is still 2 years missing from that add up. I also didn't see Grisha looking as thin and dying like Owl was looking like when his 13 years were up. I don't know why this is bothering me so much, but I guess it's nothing important and maybe the 20 years was lost in the translation and meant "almost 20 years ago" check it in here, basically it is justified though. Year 832 - Keith found Grisha outside the wall. Year 832 - 834 - Grisha and Carla is married. Year 835 - Eren is born. Year 844 - Mikasa's parent are dead. Year 845 - Colo and armor titans appeared. Carla is dead. Grisha gave Eren his titan power Yeah Grisha plays quick he bangs girl that he's just known for 1-2 years. In real life impossible but hey, if it works it ain't stupid. Really bro? In real life its impossible? you can't bang a girl you already knew for 1-2 years? that's bullshit man. |
| I can't believe some of the complaints in this thread. This is by far one of the very best chapters in all of the manga. I am surprised some people kept reading so long while hating the manga. |
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BokutoHootarou said: Does it mean that after all this time, the English title of Shingeki no Kyojin is mistranslated? Actually Isayama himself wanted the English name to be Attack on Titan. My guess is that his knowledge in English is rather poor because it basically is just a cool title that doesn't make sense. An accurate translation would be something like Advancing/Attacking Titan(s). |
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| Honestly, the older I grow with more real life responsibilities, the more I realize this manga is the only one I keep a biological clock to update myself with. It's just too good and it sets itself apart from other mangas. Oh but anyway. I wanted to be in denial with Mikasa there, poor girl, losing her family again. My simple mind just wants shiganshina trio to be happy and see the sea together but of course in good stories it doesn't happen. Shihandono said: BokutoHootarou said: Does it mean that after all this time, the English title of Shingeki no Kyojin is mistranslated? Actually Isayama himself wanted the English name to be Attack on Titan. My guess is that his knowledge in English is rather poor because it basically is just a cool title that doesn't make sense. An accurate translation would be something like Advancing/Attacking Titan(s). For me I believe he chose it on purpose. "Attack on Titan" does make sense for the storyline though, ant it camouflaged the real intention behind. If only "Advancing Titan" or "The Attack Titan" were chosen in the first place there might be less speculation and impact during the title drop. |
| This is getting intense! Eren only has eight years left to live; meaning he'll die at twenty-three while Armin has thirteen, so he'll live to be twenty-eight! That's ... so screwed up. So, they either have to give their titan powers to someone else or die and have someone else be born with them. The AOT world is more messed up than we thought it was. |
Mumma said: nearbaskara said: check it in here, basically it is justified though. Year 832 - Keith found Grisha outside the wall. Year 832 - 834 - Grisha and Carla is married. Year 835 - Eren is born. Year 844 - Mikasa's parent are dead. Year 845 - Colo and armor titans appeared. Carla is dead. Grisha gave Eren his titan power Yeah Grisha plays quick he bangs girl that he's just known for 1-2 years. In real life impossible but hey, if it works it ain't stupid. 1-2 years is completely fine, for whatever reason I was counting it as that he would have the literal next day done it. But as I said it's possibility that the 20 years really meant almost 20 years ago and it has only been 18 years. But another did what I am wondering is why Grisha didn't look as sick as the owl looked when his time was up? To me he looked completely fine, not like someone who was dying. this is my opinion, but I think they will sick if they tried to become a titan. As seen with Owl's case, he became sick/exhausted after he turned into a titan to help Grisha. |
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| Not gonna lie, all this Grisha backstory was a bit too much and I hope we return to the present and actually do something in the next chapter (Ymir's letter plz). Grisha has an interesting view on life. He realized forcing Zeke to become the Eldian messiah was a terrible idea and wanted to make sure Eren actually had a choice...then why did Grisha turn him into a shifter knowing he'd die after 13 years?lol I'm sure this "curse" is not real though (or they'll find a way to cure it) because it feels like a cheap way to make the series more dramatic. Also if Ymir is the Ymir or a reincarnation then she shouldn't die after 13 years (right now she has about 8 years left like Eren) because she is the only one who is safe from the curse, right? This whole deal with the devil + there being a curse is obviously false and I theorize that titan shifting is actually an experiment gone bad. Think about it, if Ymir and her people really terrorized Marley for 1400 years they would already be exterminated (as Kruger himself said) and it's also unlikely that in just ~100 years Marley managed to outbreed the Eldians who supposedly ruled over them for thousands of years prior (e.g. logically Marleyans were always the majority). Also if the deal with the devil actually happened why do the syringes exist? The devil gave Ymir a syringe or what xd I'm pretty sure if titan shifting was as magical as Eldia/Marley claimed it to be then Marley wouldn't be able to turn Eldians into titans with syringes. Also...if Kruger let Dina die because otherwise Marley would've used her for breeding then why did Ymir actually consider taking Historia with her at first? Since Historia is Eldian royalty as well it doesn't sound like a smart choice... This opens up a new theory. Ymir either wanted to take Historia with her and then escape from Reiner and Bertolt or the place YRB was going to wasn't Marley. |
Mumma said: nearbaskara said: this is my opinion, but I think they will sick if they tried to become a titan. As seen with Owl's case, he became sick/exhausted after he turned into a titan to help Grisha. But he did turn to Titan, because didn't he eat the coordinate Titan right before passing the Titan power to Eren? All that happened the day when the Titans first broke the wall. now that you mention it, he ate the coordinate titan. We still don't what happens to the titan shifter when they eat another shifter. Will it affect their lifespan, who knows, but the thing is, Owl only has 1 but Grisha has two when they almost cross their 13 years limit. and also a quite reminder, people who already shift into a titan will very exhausted with no exception, only Kruger mentions he almost reaches his limit. I think Grisha is pretty exhausted when he ride to home. |
DebaskyDec 11, 2016 12:19 PM
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| This chapter set up a flag with Mikasa. Until now people were "taken from her" in completely unexpected and unpredictable ways. This time Mikasa knows more or less how much time is left. I think she is being set up to save Eren from the limited lifespan he has. That may or may not involve her own death. But this chapter made me quite convinced that Eren himself will probably not die in the end. Judging by how everything went so far, though, there is a very high chance that "princess Eren" does get "captured" at least one more time though. And by the way, "Shingeki no Kyojin" and "Attack on Titan" do NOT have to be the same. The japanese people often use "double meanings" where a Kanji means something similar but slightly different thing than the Hiragana next to it. It's very common that Kanji and Hiragana are used together to refer to the same term even though their meanings are different. I don't know how to explain it, but if you have read a few LNs on bakatsuki you should have probably seen this "double meaning" before at least once. The thing is the hiragana can be replaced by katakana (which contain Western words "in Japanese writing") or even Romaji (actual Western words), so this is probably just that. |
Grey-ZoneDec 13, 2016 4:35 AM
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| "This story... Is one that you started." The title drop definitely felt profound. And the revelation of more information regarding the titans was rather welcome as well. |
| I love title drops haha. I'm excited to see what music and animation can do for this chapter. Going to be quite a wait though. |
| Yeah, seriously. I'd like to see what happens to Eren's lifespan since he has the power of two Titans now. |
| So even if he wins the MC dies xD I can't believe I didn't see it coming even after 87 chapters of this cruel manga |
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| i really liked Eren, he seemed cool (to think grisha would name his son after him n_n) wait does that mean even Annie will die ;_; |
| I can't think "attack on titan" as a legit title anymore after this chapter |
| Holy shit, title drop. |
| ok so... heres the thing . They said that once someone gets the titan powers they have 13 years of life left but ymir in her titan form survived for 60 years outside of the walls O.o so.... whet |
necronice said: ok so... heres the thing . They said that once someone gets the titan powers they have 13 years of life left but ymir in her titan form survived for 60 years outside of the walls O.o so.... whet That is because she wasn't a shifter until she ate Bertholt and Reiner friend. |
necronice said: it doesn't affect mindless Titan forms. It only affects when they get the shifter powers which Ymir didn't at the time.ok so... heres the thing . They said that once someone gets the titan powers they have 13 years of life left but ymir in her titan form survived for 60 years outside of the walls O.o so.... whet |
| A lot of history lesson there..well this was so unexpected but it just gets better and better |
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| Well, fuck. This was unexpected. |
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| I just hope that Eren can somehow change his fate with the 8 years man. I need to see him with Mikasa in the future as husband and wife if not I will rage. |
| Eren has the powers of both the attack titan and the coordinate titan. Does that mean his 13 years of lifespan have been halved to 6.5 ? It would surely raise the stakes, leaving him just a bit more than a year to close this conflict, and bringing the climax of the manga closer. I think that's what the author is going for. Soli18 said: I just hope that Eren can somehow change his fate with the 8 years man. I need to see him with Mikasa in the future as husband and wife if not I will rage. Then I hope you rage away, cause a happy ending doesn't fit this story imo. Bittersweet is fine. |
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