Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu Episode 15 Discussion

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Jakez123 said:

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Omg.... what the hell was that??
That was insane!

I'll be honest - I have not been a fan of this show in the slightest.... but this episode was.... wow.....

The last few minutes before the credits especially were brilliant

Not at all related to your post, but it's Kongroo. I'm tilted by seeing Congroo.

I think both are acceptable, rival mad scientist ;P
http://steins-gate.wikia.com/wiki/Episode_Glossary

al-birny said:

haha, i hope the episode stops at that, the scene is quietly beautiful, but then i realize it still have ~2minutes.

True, but I like the after-credit sequence too!
I can't believe I'm saying this - but I'm actually really interested to see what Subaru does next week. It's a bloody miracle

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Jul 10, 2016 3:46 PM

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Well that was, uhm... where do I even begin here

Just plain carnage and insanity o.0

Jul 10, 2016 3:48 PM

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This entire episode was just so heartwrenching but it was done so well
I love this series but i dont think this is going to end up being something i rewatch, too painful

Jul 10, 2016 3:49 PM

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Puck's killed him twice... Subaru was a casualty... But it might be that Puck didn't care about him anymore, after Emilia supposedly died. First time was when he tried to open the door, and was frozen to death... That ice seemed to be a magical, never-melting one.

It's called plot convenience.

No it isn't. First time was by his mistake. Many would consider those deaths better than having him kill himself.

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SixPistols said:
Forced drama: the episode.

While this is kinda true. You are going to offend a lot of people. Haha.

Yeah as you can't feel.

Jul 10, 2016 3:50 PM

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This anime is AOTY.

15/10

Jul 10, 2016 3:50 PM

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QcK_Dagger_HeaT said:

levan86 said:

exactly, wtf did i just watch, man AOTY i tell ya.

GREATNESS that is all

What is your profile picture?

Jul 10, 2016 3:51 PM

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iRels said:

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iRels said:

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iRels said:

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iRels said:

Idiotproofninja said:

iRels said:

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das_nooblet said:

Hongu said:
Holy. Fucking. Shit.
However, I do have a problem with Betelgeuse. I know he's supposed to be deranged and over the top and make you feel scared and uncomfortable, but he was seriously TOO spastic and insane. I didn't even really feel scared, he was just funny to me and he made me laugh. Maybe I'll just have to wait for the subs, but seriously he was like an Akame ga Kill villain or something. For now though, he's an effective villain I guess...

Someone may have mentioned this already, but for me, the juxtaposition between that and the few moments he switches over to a serious tone are what truly make him scary/intimidating.

He's WAY too over the top to be scary. One of the things that Re Zero would always fail for me is the idea of Tension ,cause at Rem is killed by the Joker scene I knew immediately that He would just die again soon so we can get a Reset.

Nonsense. Betelgeuse wasn't written to be afraid to appear 'over the top' as you call it. As he's genuinely evil.

Oh yeah he'd die again. But...how? If Rem hadn't freed him, he'd either die of dehydration, or by bleeding to death by biting his tongue. Sure, no tension.

How he died wouldn't make a difference since the moment Rem died at that scene, the audience already knows he's going to reset right back. I'm not saying it's a bad scene it's just how the story goes.

I said he's so over top it's hard to find him scary because I cannot take him seriously. He's like a really annoying clown at kid's birthday party.

Wouldn't you find it scary to know that the clown at the party is an insane murderer? Eh.

I would but then I would soon realize that no one will actually ever get hurt because JUST KIDDING, everyone isn't dead because Superman just turned back time.

They got hurt. They always get. But the real problem is that they'll keep getting. The danger won't disappear. It'll be constant. So their suffering will keep being relevant.

You argue saying that things return to normal and stay that way. So there's no need to care. But that's not the case.

So by your logic, you wouldn't mind seeing someone you care for getting raped repeteatedly, right? Because you can just go back in time... You might get used to see it. You'll adapt. Hahahah. But adapting doesn't equals erasing.

It is erasing though. No one will remember they got raped or died because it never happened YET, that's the whole idea of TIME TRAVEL. To them IT NEVER HAPPENED. Only you are mentally affected. Emilia even says it. She never actually saves Subaru from the 'bad guys' so she doesn't even know why Subaru thinks she's awesome.

It's happening over and over again. It'll keep happening. Resetting doesn't makes the problems disappear, because the source is still there. And it'll inevitably affect you. Subaru can't not care for what's happened, because it'll happen again. They'll suffer again. You'd be waiting for it. So how can you ignore it? What you say only applies to the end.

Huh? There was progression. She remembers the thugs. And Elsa.

No, It will happen again and again till it stops happening, ( When the MC decides on a plan that works) then it would 'never have happened'. Like how Emilia died in the first arc over and over.But now she will never remember she died in the first arc because it never 'truly' happened.

The story's long. He'll keep devising plans. Issues will keep appearing. Those close to him will keep suffering. It'll affect him as it would anyone. It's likely that some characteres will die permanently, too... And Subaru will be forced to accept it. And you know, even though Emilia and Subaru didn't die, what happened between at the castle was very significant, and became permanent. We've to remind ourselves that Subaru has no control over which point he comes back to.

Trust me It's not a spoiler but Subaru and Emilia will not permanently die until maybe the real end of the series. How do I know this? Am I the Author? No. Did I read the Novel? No. It's called common sense.

So? She's not the only one he cares for. And even if she doesn't die, it could happen that he'd start hating her. ... I hope you're aware that the author has already predicted your OBVIOUS criticisms. It should've been clear. I already told some other users the same. They semed to be unaware.

Did you even read what you wrote. If he'd started to hate her I'd give this show a 10/10. Kick out the worst girl. Hahaha. But that will never happen. I'm not psychic. It's common sense.

How the show feels to me is how the show feels to me. To me it lacks tension because I know what's going to happen. It's not a criticism. That's how I felt. If you felt different more power to you. Everything affects people differently. Just like how everyone likes different kinds of music and finds music others love really annoying.

She already isn't and won't be appearing much. It's like he predicted this, too... Ah, can't be... Eh.

The author himself is obsessed with emilia "which is why subaru in his turn obsessed with her for no reason xD " hate seems too much but it will be great twist if he starts to develop negative emotions torward emillia since one of the reason i don't like her that much is her forced relationship with subaru "which is again a lot of people said it don't make sense "

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Idiotproofninja said:

iRels said:

Puck's killed him twice... Subaru was a casualty... But it might be that Puck didn't care about him anymore, after Emilia supposedly died. First time was when he tried to open the door, and was frozen to death... That ice seemed to be a magical, never-melting one.

It's called plot convenience.

Stop using words you don't know to bash something. If don't like something just say it.

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Jul 10, 2016 3:51 PM

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This anime made me make a myanimelist account just to say how amazing this was....

Jul 10, 2016 3:52 PM

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QWERTYFish25 said:

Idiotproofninja said:
It's called plot convenience.

Hrmm? How so?

30charbsetcetcetcetc

We know Subaru has too much PTSD to kill himself but he desperately needs to reset.

The Cultist left so they can't kill him. No one else is around to kill him cause they are dead. So we need to find a way to kill Subaru. Let him freeze to death 'by accident'.

Everyone is dead again and the Cultist left. Ok we need to find someone to kill him again. Puck will do.

Jagd84 said:

Idiotproofninja said:

It's called plot convenience.

Stop using words you don't know to bash something. If don't like something just say it.

From a source reader.

Is that a fancy title you get by reading the source material? We know he needs to die soon to reset because everyone died. Who else is going to take his life, the cultist left. Everyone in the area is dead. He isn't going to kill himself because PTSD. He needs a reset.

Jul 10, 2016 3:52 PM

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I need more i want more

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Mickdrew said:

I think both are acceptable, rival mad scientist ;P
http://steins-gate.wikia.com/wiki/Episode_Glossary

Going to put it in spoilers

But anyway, Re;zero, I feel bad for Rem, also weird about why Ram moves from being inside to outside of the house.

Jul 10, 2016 3:55 PM

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Fai said:
And Subaru still remains a pitiful asshole. At least hopefully this will serve as a lesson to him. Now hopefully since we are done with this we can actually see Subaru fix this shit and stop being an asshole in progress, instead of this gruesome torture porn.

3/5

I agree with this too to some extent, tbh

The actual character "Sloth" seemed to be just a copy of Caster from F/Z turned up to 11, and a lot of the gruesome moments were really overkill.

But I don't think that's what made this episode great. If they only toned that edginess down, this episode still would've had a lot of emotional impact.

Then again, this does seem to be the style of the show. This episode wasn't much more edgy than many of the earlier deaths Subaru has faced.

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Jul 10, 2016 3:55 PM

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Brutal. Unforgiving. Intense. Emotional. Only a handful of words that describes this incredibly powerful episode.

Rem has officially shown that through and through she is both a wonderful and compelling character and friend.

Subaru has been through so much, unfairly so. Unfairly thrown into a foreign world with no help, no information, and no guidance. His sheer perseverance and determination deserve the highest of praises. I've always bee a Subaru supporter, as he's always fought for what he's believed in with unbridled passion despite the odds being stacked against him. Again, no one in this series has endured the pain, stress and suffering he has; so I believe he's always been in the right, save for his argument with Emilia. However, Emilia is a hypocrite with her complaints of Subaru not telling her everything, because she keeps just as many secrets.

Finally, after so much death and insanity, Subaru has a clear goal: Destroy this witch cult. His eyes at the end were easily my favorite part of this episode.

The episode itself was masterfully shot and executed, all the way down to the credits. Massive kudos for White Fox. I can only assume the massive beast at the end was Puck, who I believe knows Subaru's full situation.

I sincerely hope things finally start going Subaru's way next episode.

Fai said:
When a show goes edgy, even Puck becomes an edgelord.

First of all the ep starts with edge and a lot of it feels unneeded as MC angsts over destroyed mansion and dead characters and keeps realizing what a piece of shit of a person he is. I mean did we not go through this when the curse killed Rem in Arc 2? Oh wait we did. So this is repeat of that, except with more edge and gore, which is not why I watch Rezero for. The whole freezing part at the start was too much. NOPE. Fuck that.

Anyway, new villain looks and acts like he escaped from Akame Ga Kill. What the fuck is even such a character?
Fucking had to fast-forward the scenes with the edgy villain because of how disgusting they were. Most of the dude's whose name is too hard to remember screentime was half disgust half disbelief on whether I should take it seriously. I would not if most of the shit he does was not this gory and revolting. Ugh

Overall Rem was the saving grace of the episode. Out of entire cast, she remains the most likeable and badass character.

And Subaru still remains a pitiful asshole. At least hopefully this will serve as a lesson to him. Now hopefully since we are done with this we can actually see Subaru fix this shit and stop being an asshole in progress, instead of this gruesome torture porn.

3/5

Your criticism is easily some of the worst, most inconsistent I've ever seen. Be it this, My Hero Academia, or your laughably undeserved praises of the latest Twin Generic Star Exorcist episode or pretty much anything RWBY related. I've tried to keep my mouth shut as everyone has the right to their opinion, but Jesus you could not be more wrong about Subaru's incredibly realistic, natural, and terrific character development. Just drop this show, because you're clearly never ever going to be satisfied.

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Jul 10, 2016 3:58 PM

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fullsize for those who want

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This is crazy. Never thought I would be this invested in anime that I don't even binge-watch. I honestly want to kowtow to the one who directed this episode.

Jul 10, 2016 4:00 PM

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I am completely left speechless after finishing this episode. Just when you thought things couldn't get any more brutal.... This episode left one big impact, incredible. From beginning to end, my mouth was wide open. Literally. So invested. This has gotta one of the best episodes I've ever seen. It was painful, emotional and brutal.

Really, this show just gets better and better by each episode. Matsuoka's voice acting in this episode as the villain was perfect. It was twisted. He fucking pulled it off here. He knows how to do it. 10/10 voice acting there. BRILLIANT.

THANK YOU WHITE FOX.

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Jakez123 said:
Going to put it in spoilers

But anyway, Re;zero, I feel bad for Rem, also weird about why Ram moves from being inside to outside of the house.

I have been out-scientist-ed DD:

lol but seriously, I suspect they moved Ram's death to the outside so Subaru would see it before his head gets knocked off. There might be a deeper meaning behind it, but I'm just gonna assume plot convenience for now.

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Jul 10, 2016 4:01 PM

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Idiotproofninja said:

QWERTYFish25 said:

Hrmm? How so?

30charbsetcetcetcetc

We know Subaru has too much PTSD to kill himself but he desperately needs to reset.

The Cultist left so they can't kill him. No one else is around to kill him cause they are dead. So we need to find a way to kill Subaru. Let him freeze to death 'by accident'.

Everyone is dead again and the Cultist left. Ok we need to find someone to kill him again. Puck will do.

Jagd84 said:

Stop using words you don't know to bash something. If don't like something just say it.

From a source reader.

Is that a fancy title you get by reading the source material? We know he needs to die soon to reset because everyone died. Who else is going to take his life, the cultist left. Everyone in the area is dead. He isn't going to kill himself because PTSD. He needs a reset.

Dude, he could've simply jumped off the cliff again, after letting go of Rem's corpse. It wasn't far from there. The first was by his mistake, yeah. I just rewatched it, and didn't you notice? He was already freezing, the moment he touched the door. That magical ice is deadly. But he wasn't aware of how much. In Elsa's case, they were in the open. So it couldn't cool the area... But underground was a freezer.

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Man this episode was just straight up insane, it's just so good.

Kirito's VA for actor of the year.

Jul 10, 2016 4:02 PM

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Todd_ said:
Brutal. Unforgiving. Intense. Emotional. Only a handful of words that describes this incredibly powerful episode.

Rem has officially shown that through and through she is both a wonderful and compelling character and friend.

Subaru has been through so much, unfairly so. Unfairly thrown into a foreign world with no help, no information, and no guidance. His sheer perseverance and determination deserve the highest of praises. I've always bee a Subaru supporter, as he's always fought for what he's believed in with unbridled passion despite the odds being stacked against him. Again, no one in this series has endured the pain, stress and suffering he has; so I believe he's always been in the right, save for his argument with Emilia. However, Emilia is a hypocrite with her complaints of Subaru not telling her everything, because she keeps just as many secrets.

Finally, after so much death and insanity, Subaru has a clear goal: Destroy this witch cult. His eyes at the end were easily my favorite part of this episode.

The episode itself was masterfully shot and executed, all the way down to the credits. Massive kudos for White Fox. I can only assume the massive beast at the end was Puck, who I believe knows Subaru's full situation.

I sincerely hope things finally start going Subaru's way next episode.

Fai said:
When a show goes edgy, even Puck becomes an edgelord.

First of all the ep starts with edge and a lot of it feels unneeded as MC angsts over destroyed mansion and dead characters and keeps realizing what a piece of shit of a person he is. I mean did we not go through this when the curse killed Rem in Arc 2? Oh wait we did. So this is repeat of that, except with more edge and gore, which is not why I watch Rezero for. The whole freezing part at the start was too much. NOPE. Fuck that.

Anyway, new villain looks and acts like he escaped from Akame Ga Kill. What the fuck is even such a character?
Fucking had to fast-forward the scenes with the edgy villain because of how disgusting they were. Most of the dude's whose name is too hard to remember screentime was half disgust half disbelief on whether I should take it seriously. I would not if most of the shit he does was not this gory and revolting. Ugh

Overall Rem was the saving grace of the episode. Out of entire cast, she remains the most likeable and badass character.

And Subaru still remains a pitiful asshole. At least hopefully this will serve as a lesson to him. Now hopefully since we are done with this we can actually see Subaru fix this shit and stop being an asshole in progress, instead of this gruesome torture porn.

3/5

Your criticism is easily some of the worst, most inconsistent I've ever seen. Be it this, My Hero Academia, or your laughably undeserved praises of the latest Twin Generic Star Exorcist episode or pretty much anything RWBY related. I've tried to keep my mouth shut as everyone has the right to their opinion, but Jesus you could not be more wrong about Subaru's incredibly realistic, natural, and terrific character development. Just drop this show, because you're clearly never ever going to be satisfied.

I don't like RWBY and Twin Star is alright but everyone has their own personal preference and a right to express their opinion. If you want to be trapped in your own bubble where you think your opinion is superior to others then don't read forums. You might actually find that people have different opinions from you. SHOCKING I know.

Let people enjoy what they enjoy if you don't think their criticism is valid then argue your point. Otherwise move on.

iRels said:

Idiotproofninja said:

We know Subaru has too much PTSD to kill himself but he desperately needs to reset.

The Cultist left so they can't kill him. No one else is around to kill him cause they are dead. So we need to find a way to kill Subaru. Let him freeze to death 'by accident'.

Everyone is dead again and the Cultist left. Ok we need to find someone to kill him again. Puck will do.

Is that a fancy title you get by reading the source material? We know he needs to die soon to reset because everyone died. Who else is going to take his life, the cultist left. Everyone in the area is dead. He isn't going to kill himself because PTSD. He needs a reset.

Dude, he could've simply jumped off the cliff again, after letting go of Rem's corpse. It wasn't far from there. The first was by his mistake, yeah. I just rewatched it, and didn't you notice? He was already freezing, the moment he touched the door. That magical ice is deadly. But he wasn't aware of how much. In Elsa's case, they were in the open. So it couldn't cool the area... But underground was a freezer.

Subaru is not going to kill himself. He has PTSD. Either way it's a great coincidence that we have the perfect thing to instantly kill Subaru for it to reset because we know that whenever everyone dies. He'll reset pretty soon.

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Re:Zero is at it's best when it's a fantasy thriller because it's no longer boring.

Rem proves that to be the best character in a show, you have to 1. actually have a semblance of character and 2. make sure your competition doesn't and the one guy who does switches over terribly

Todd_ said:

Your criticism is easily some of the worst, most inconsistent I've ever seen. Be it this, My Hero Academia, or your laughably undeserved praises of the latest Twin Generic Star Exorcist episode or pretty much anything RWBY related. I've tried to keep my mouth shut as everyone has the right to their opinion, but Jesus you could not be more wrong about Subaru's incredibly realistic, natural, and terrific character development. Just drop this show, because you're clearly never ever going to be satisfied.

1. if you've tried to keep your mouth shut, why are you suddenly opening up now?

2. his criticism is pretty much spot-on. This is a much edgier version of episode 7, and it was only entertaining as a thriller. The new villain is comically over the top and crazy. Subaru has not developed. Subaru's developement has basically been "i'm an ok guy that's been going through stress from this stuff i've been dealing with- suddenly i'm an unredeemable asshole"

3. just because you don't like something doesn't mean you have to drop it. Don't tell people to drop everything they don't like so you don't recieve negative criticism.

every single one of my forum posts is dumb and invalid except for 1, I don't claim them it was a different person it was all fake

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This

Wait

What

How

Holy damning damn. What can I say to this? Just... Whoa. Could it be that the author is setting up Subaru to become a villain in the end, and that this is all merely the tragic backstory of Pride?

CAREN-CHAN!
I have been traumatized by this episode ;=;

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Jul 10, 2016 4:04 PM

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Mickdrew said:

Jakez123 said:
Going to put it in spoilers

But anyway, Re;zero, I feel bad for Rem, also weird about why Ram moves from being inside to outside of the house.

I have been out-scientist-ed DD:

lol but seriously, I suspect they moved Ram's death to the outside so Subaru would see it before his head gets knocked off. There might be a deeper meaning behind it, but I'm just gonna assume plot convenience for now.

Hmm? Before, Rem was there to fight off the cultists in the village. After, she wasn't. So Ram had to replace her.

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IronCaren said:
This

Wait

What

How

Holy damning damn. What can I say to this? Just... Whoa. Could it be that the author is setting up Subaru to become a villain in the end, and that this is all merely the tragic backstory of Pride?

Well this is Re:Zero after all. We're still waiting for Re:stay night. In all seriousness, WOW this was difficult for me to watch. This is what Berserk deserves. Is this really how it's gonna be for these next 10 episodes? Because hot damn this was fantastic. Definitely gonna have to buy the LNs when they roll around (if there isn't a second season by the time they release where the anime leaves off).

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>not appreciating how much of a cunt Asuka is
How disgusting tbh

Jul 10, 2016 4:05 PM

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I don't care if all 500+ replies have already said this, I need to say it myself.
That was the best episode of ANY SHOW THIS YEAR.
I'm a big fan of Yoshitsugu Matsuoka, and just this episode has shown Betelguese to be his best role ever. Fucking phenomenal.
The absolute madness of everything; full force for twenty-five minutes. An ending so negative that the credits are red. I watched it a second time and was still blown away by how well animated and directed this is. We're fifteen episodes into this and the show still looks amazing, what the fuck? How did White Fox even do this?
This anime is brilliant. It's far and away the best show airing right now.

✧

Jul 10, 2016 4:06 PM

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Fai said:

Wonderland-aries said:

Uhm if you do not know what re:zero is by now then this might not be for you haha

I knew what Rezero was - a nice and creative realistic world wwith likeable realistic MC who is not gary stu and can actually use his brain.

I did not expect ReZero to becomea love tchild of elfenr lied and akame ga kill

Drake1000 said:
What the fuck did I just watch? is this the end of Evangelion of Re Zero?

Please don't compare legit good shows to a torture porn.

Is Subaru still gonna be lusting Emilia after this?

I hope not because if anything this arc drives it to the viewer that nothing good comes out of that and he literallyhas o reason to .

What do you like about the current arc so far?

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amazing chapter, really amazing.

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iRels said:

Hmm? Before, Rem was there to fight off the cultists in the village. After, she wasn't. So Ram had to replace her.

That is also a possibility.

But Rem had sensed her sister being attacked before they ever ran into the cultists before, so she had to have already been inside fighting and presumably dying.

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Jul 10, 2016 4:08 PM

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Is there a stand alone version of the orchestral piece? I keep looping that portion of the episode, but my heart can only take so much. ;_;

Jul 10, 2016 4:08 PM

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This episode was mindfuckery! Wait.. what? Puck is the witch?

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Idiotproofninja said:

I don't like RWBY and Twin Star is alright but everyone has their own personal preference and a right to express their opinion. If you want to be trapped in your own bubble where you think your opinion is superior to others then don't read forums. You might actually find that people have different opinions from you. SHOCKING I know.

Let people enjoy what they enjoy if you don't think their criticism is valid then argue your point. Otherwise move on.

Because I totally didn't say people have the right to their own opinions right? All he does is shit talk, all the time, about anything popular. It makes you wonder if the guy is just a sadist for watching stuff he doesn't like.

Did I say my opinion is superior? I'm just calling him out on his blatant bullshit, like others have in the past AKA the past 8+ weeks of My Hero Academia thread drama between him and about 100 other users.

Why don't you go somewhere else keyboard warrior?

RainyRai said:

1. if you've tried to keep your mouth shut, why are you suddenly opening up now?

2. his criticism is pretty much spot-on. This is a much edgier version of episode 7, and it was only entertaining as a thriller. The new villain is comically over the top and crazy. Subaru has not developed. Subaru's developement has basically been "i'm an ok guy that's been going through stress from this stuff i've been dealing with- suddenly i'm an unredeemable asshole"

3. just because you don't like something doesn't mean you have to drop it. Don't tell people to drop everything they don't like so you don't recieve negative criticism.

1. Because after seeing his whiney bullshit for 5 months, I've had enough?

2. No, it really isn't. Anyone who is complaining about Subaru's character is upset because they expected some perfect little protagonist, instead of a deep, well thought out, flawed individual with his own personal battles to overcome.

3. First, I'm going to tell people what I want, you're going to tell me what to do. Second, if you actually read his comments, it sounds like someone who is just watching something to criticize it, rather than watching something hoping it gets better. That's why I told him to drop it.

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Jul 10, 2016 4:11 PM

#585

Citruswarrior

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Don't know if i have ever watched an episode as good as this one

1000/10

Jul 10, 2016 4:11 PM

#586

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Todd_ said:

Idiotproofninja said:

I don't like RWBY and Twin Star is alright but everyone has their own personal preference and a right to express their opinion. If you want to be trapped in your own bubble where you think your opinion is superior to others then don't read forums. You might actually find that people have different opinions from you. SHOCKING I know.

Let people enjoy what they enjoy if you don't think their criticism is valid then argue your point. Otherwise move on.

Because I totally didn't say people have the right to their own opinions right? All he does is shit talk, all the time, about anything popular. It makes you wonder if the guy is just a sadist for watching stuff he doesn't like.

Did I say my opinion is superior? I'm just calling him out on his blatant bullshit, like others have in the past AKA the past 8+ weeks of My Hero Academia thread drama between him and about 100 other users.

Why don't you go somewhere else keyboard warrior?

Says he doesn't consider his opinion superior. Ends his reply with name-calling. A true gentleman. Enough said.

You need to go somewhere else because you can't handle people having a different opinion when watching shows. If he doesn't like something that's popular and wants to voice his opinion or watch things he doesn't like. That's his business.

Jul 10, 2016 4:12 PM

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Idiotproofninja said:

iRels said:

Dude, he could've simply jumped off the cliff again, after letting go of Rem's corpse. It wasn't far from there. The first was by his mistake, yeah. I just rewatched it, and didn't you notice? He was already freezing, the moment he touched the door. That magical ice is deadly. But he wasn't aware of how much. In Elsa's case, they were in the open. So it couldn't cool the area... But underground was a freezer.

Subaru is not going to kill himself. He has PTSD. Either way it's a great coincidence that we have the perfect thing to instantly kill Subaru for it to reset because we know that whenever everyone dies. He'll reset pretty soon.

So you believe he has that, huh? No, he has not. Sure he fears the pain. But I had just given you an example of painless death. And he has to revive them, yeah. As he wants to succeed. They're vital. He can't give up anymore. Because he's also related to all this. There's no issue with him making use of his ability. It's there for that.

Jul 10, 2016 4:12 PM

#588

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I hope everyone that shit talked now understands why Subaru is the way he is. I also hope you feel like complete jackasses for the way you shit talked on him in previous episodes.

Jul 10, 2016 4:14 PM

#589

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RainyRai said:
Re:Zero is at it's best when it's a fantasy thriller because it's no longer boring.

Rem proves that to be the best character in a show, you have to 1. actually have a semblance of character and 2. make sure your competition doesn't and the one guy who does switches over terribly

Todd_ said:

Your criticism is easily some of the worst, most inconsistent I've ever seen. Be it this, My Hero Academia, or your laughably undeserved praises of the latest Twin Generic Star Exorcist episode or pretty much anything RWBY related. I've tried to keep my mouth shut as everyone has the right to their opinion, but Jesus you could not be more wrong about Subaru's incredibly realistic, natural, and terrific character development. Just drop this show, because you're clearly never ever going to be satisfied.

1. if you've tried to keep your mouth shut, why are you suddenly opening up now?

2. his criticism is pretty much spot-on. This is a much edgier version of episode 7, and it was only entertaining as a thriller. The new villain is comically over the top and crazy. Subaru has not developed. Subaru's developement has basically been "i'm an ok guy that's been going through stress from this stuff i've been dealing with- suddenly i'm an unredeemable asshole"

3. just because you don't like something doesn't mean you have to drop it. Don't tell people to drop everything they don't like so you don't recieve negative criticism.

Can you explain what edgy means to me please, the definition I looked up seems to be different from the way others are using it.

Jul 10, 2016 4:14 PM

#590

takkun_

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Idiotproofninja said:

Todd_ said:

Because I totally didn't say people have the right to their own opinions right? All he does is shit talk, all the time, about anything popular. It makes you wonder if the guy is just a sadist for watching stuff he doesn't like.

Did I say my opinion is superior? I'm just calling him out on his blatant bullshit, like others have in the past AKA the past 8+ weeks of My Hero Academia thread drama between him and about 100 other users.

Why don't you go somewhere else keyboard warrior?

Says he doesn't consider his opinion superior. Ends his reply with name-calling. A true gentleman. Enough said.

Because name calling equates to superiority right? Because your blatant assumptions are even better right?

You need to go somewhere else because you can't handle people having a different opinion when watching shows. If he doesn't like something that's popular and wants to voice his opinion or watch things he doesn't like. That's his business.

You do realize a forum is also a place where people can challenge others' opinions on things right?

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Jul 10, 2016 4:15 PM

#591

Darkholow

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This was one of the best episode I've seen all year..DAMN!

Kudos to White Fox in doing a brilliant job..this episode rekt me.

Jul 10, 2016 4:15 PM

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Choa77 said:
Is there a stand alone version of the orchestral piece? I keep looping that portion of the episode, but my heart can only take so much. ;_;

I know exactly what you mean~

The music playing over the ending was beautiful...
I was just about to rewatch it just to hear it before I saw your post lol

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Jul 10, 2016 4:16 PM

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iRels said:

Idiotproofninja said:

Subaru is not going to kill himself. He has PTSD. Either way it's a great coincidence that we have the perfect thing to instantly kill Subaru for it to reset because we know that whenever everyone dies. He'll reset pretty soon.

So you believe he has that, huh? No, he has not. Sure he fears the pain. But I had just given you an example of painless death. And he has to revive them, yeah. As he wants to succeed. They're vital. He can't give up anymore. Because he's also related to all this. There's no issue with him making use of his ability. It's there for that.

If he doesn't have PTSD then he should keep killing himself Edge of Tomorrow/Groundhog day style and actually master a few useful fighting skills before the next horrible tragedy. But he never does and never will.

Jul 10, 2016 4:17 PM

#594

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DAMN....
THIS IS... THIS IS... THE BEST EPISODE EVEEEERRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

brutality.......check
Epicness.......check
Feels............check

Jul 10, 2016 4:18 PM

#595

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Devil_Slayer said:

The author himself is obsessed with emilia "which is why subaru in his turn obsessed with her for no reason xD " hate seems too much but it will be great twist if he starts to develop negative emotions torward emillia since one of the reason i don't like her that much is her forced relationship with subaru "which is again a lot of people said it don't make sense "

Let me try understand what you're saying here. The girl who saved his life, gave him stability (a job, shelter and food) supported him and is still cares enough to have his injuries treated despite they fight is forced, compared to another who killed him in one timeline then tortured him another... Do realize how backwards that sounds right?

Rem maybe better now but doesn't change she did do terrible things to Subaru at one point so if any relationship is closer to being forced it is her's. But I don't think there any forced relationships to begin with, everyone here had their reasons to grow attached to each even if some people desperately want to forget that.

Idiotproofninja said:

Is that a fancy title you get by reading the source material? We know he needs to die soon to reset because everyone died. Who else is going to take his life, the cultist left. Everyone in the area is dead. He isn't going to kill himself because PTSD. He needs a reset.

The point of my post that you comment was dumb and your excuse of plot convenience is blanket statement to bash the plot developments. We that story progress through loops since day, it's very concept and core of this show, not something randomly just for sake of it. You're whining about it is inane.

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Jul 10, 2016 4:18 PM

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Todd_ said:

Idiotproofninja said:

Says he doesn't consider his opinion superior. Ends his reply with name-calling. A true gentleman. Enough said.

Because name calling equates to superiority right? Because your blatant assumptions are even better right?

You need to go somewhere else because you can't handle people having a different opinion when watching shows. If he doesn't like something that's popular and wants to voice his opinion or watch things he doesn't like. That's his business.

You do realize a forum is also a place where people can challenge others' opinions on things right?

Yes, you challenge other's opinions by actually making valid counter-arguments instead of name calling and insulting other people's taste.

Jagd84 said:

Devil_Slayer said:

The author himself is obsessed with emilia "which is why subaru in his turn obsessed with her for no reason xD " hate seems too much but it will be great twist if he starts to develop negative emotions torward emillia since one of the reason i don't like her that much is her forced relationship with subaru "which is again a lot of people said it don't make sense "

Let me try understand what you're saying here. The girl who saved his life, gave him stability (a job, shelter and food) supported him and is still cares enough to have his injuries treated is forced, compared to another who killed him in one timeline then tortured him another... Do realize how backwards that sounds right?

Rem maybe better now but doesn't change she did do terrible things to Subaru at one point so if any relationship is closer to being forced it is her's. But I don't think there any forced relationships to begin with, everyone here had their reasons to grow attached to each even if some people desperately want to forget that.

Idiotproofninja said:

Is that a fancy title you get by reading the source material? We know he needs to die soon to reset because everyone died. Who else is going to take his life, the cultist left. Everyone in the area is dead. He isn't going to kill himself because PTSD. He needs a reset.

The point of my post that you comment was dumb and your excuse of plot convenience is blanket statement to bash the plot developments. We that story progress through loops since day, it's very concept and core of this show, not something randomly just for sake of it.

It's plot convenience when he finds the perfect situation to get himself killed soon after everyone dies/he doesn't have the balls to kill himself/he needs a reset. Any kind of super lucky coincidence that happens with the sole purpose of furthering the plot is plot convenience. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SuspiciouslyConvenientIndex

IdiotproofninjaJul 10, 2016 4:26 PM

Jul 10, 2016 4:19 PM

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