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Jan 23, 2016 6:28 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Nice to see that everyone finally recognized that it was the Straw Hats and Luffy taking down the Don Quixote family.

I'm really wondering if Luffy will ever be able to awaken his Devil fruit powers

Hopefully this arc ends by the next episode, because these episodes feel really dragged out
Jan 23, 2016 6:51 PM
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Barely any progression with the fight as the episode mainly focused on other things. Not surprised tbh.

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Hopefully this arc ends by the next episode, because these episodes feel really dragged out

LMFAO sorry buddy, this episode adapted chapter 785. This arc didn't end until chapter 801. The actual fight between Luffy and Doffy should only last about 5 or 6 more episodes, but the arc overall won't end for about another 15.
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Jan 23, 2016 6:53 PM
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Hmmm.....that was a very brash way to introduce that awakening.

The kid really had a shirt with Bartholomew Kuma on it too. What store would sell such a thing? Do they have other Shichubukai shirts as well?

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Zaddit said:
Hopefully this arc ends by the next episode, because these episodes feel really dragged out

LMFAO sorry buddy, this episode adapted chapter 785. This arc didn't end until chapter 801. The actual fight between Luffy and Doffy should only last about 5 or 6 more episodes, but the arc overall won't end for about another 15.


It will most likely be closer to 20 episodes because they are not adapting 1 chapter = 1 episode now. It's more like 0.7 chapter = 1 episode.
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Jan 23, 2016 6:53 PM
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Felt pretty dragged out at some points. This one chapter per episode pacing is painful.

Cool to see Doffy's awakened abilities. Waiting for the day Luffy does something similar.

Liked King Riku's speech.

Hoping for more action next episode.
Jan 23, 2016 7:02 PM
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RedRoseFring said:
thebrentinator24 said:



LMFAO sorry buddy, this episode adapted chapter 785. This arc didn't end until chapter 801. The actual fight between Luffy and Doffy should only last about 5 or 6 more episodes, but the arc overall won't end for about another 15.


It will most likely be closer to 20 episodes because they are not adapting 1 chapter = 1 episode now. It's more like 0.7 chapter = 1 episode.

Just went back to check and wow they really didn't adapt the chapter. Next episodes title is based on what should've been the ending lol
Jan 23, 2016 7:14 PM
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next week will be the 100th Episode of the Dressrosa arc!

In the manga the arc is 102 chapters long, the 1 chapter per episode rule is dead lol.

I really expected this episode to end with the
but it looks like that will end next weeks episode after a whole lot of filler fighting.

I dunno how thur gonna do it but this arc will probably last at least another 20 episodes.
Jan 23, 2016 7:16 PM
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G_Spark233 said:
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It will most likely be closer to 20 episodes because they are not adapting 1 chapter = 1 episode now. It's more like 0.7 chapter = 1 episode.

Just went back to check and wow they really didn't adapt the chapter. Next episodes title is based on what should've been the ending lol


I know it's a lose-lose situation where the alternative is filler, but I wonder why they went from the 1 chapter model to 0.7 chapter. I wouldn't think it would make that much of a difference in preventing it from catching up to the manga.
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RedRoseFring said:
G_Spark233 said:

Just went back to check and wow they really didn't adapt the chapter. Next episodes title is based on what should've been the ending lol


I know it's a lose-lose situation where the alternative is filler, but I wonder why they went from the 1 chapter model to 0.7 chapter. I wouldn't think it would make that much of a difference in preventing it from catching up to the manga.

It's probably due to the amount of breaks Oda takes.

At least with the filler you can skip it.
Jan 23, 2016 7:29 PM
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for me this is the arc i liked least, dont get me wrong it had great moments, gear 4, Corazon and all that stuff but i think the gyojin arc and PH had a better development and more steady.

I was so hyped for this arc with doflamingo and future battles but the pace and animation
hass killed it for me.
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thebrentinator24 said:
Barely any progression with the fight as the episode mainly focused on other things. Not surprised tbh.

Zaddit said:
Hopefully this arc ends by the next episode, because these episodes feel really dragged out

LMFAO sorry buddy,

I really think that should have been spoiler tagged as anime-only watchers will find out


This episode was underwhelming compared to last week's episode. It's the pacing that's been terrible. But that Bartholomew Kuma T-shirt, lol. And I thought it was simply a "bear" design print on the shirt. Shichibukai T-shirts! Now I should go find a Boa Hancock T-shirt and buy one for me. :P
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People forget that the manga version was dragged out too. There was a full chapter of just zoro and the group just pushing the birdcage. it's not just toei.

This episode was boring, nothing much happened except for the DF awakening part.
Jan 23, 2016 8:10 PM

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People forget that the manga version was dragged out too. There was a full chapter of just zoro and the group just pushing the birdcage. it's not just toei.

This episode was boring, nothing much happened except for the DF awakening part.

There are adapting less than a chapter per episode. Pacing is poor in the manga but Toei makes the pacing a lot worse.
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Is 28 chapter behind the manga long enough for toe to stat working their ass?
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Jan 23, 2016 9:41 PM

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The pacing is killing me. Have to wait till next episode for it...
Doflamingo's awakening didn't really have the impact i thought it would, it kinda just happened, well that's what i thought at least.

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The problem is Oda takes a break about every 3 weeks, so in your average month we only get 3 OP chapters. Since Toei for some reason completely abandoned filler years ago (with the exception of movie tie ins), this means at a 1 chapter per episode rate the anime will actually catch up to the. Personally I'd rather they just go to fillers for awhile then come back, making the episodes even 1.25-1.5 chapters would be a dramatic pacing improvement. I wouldn't even mind if they adopted Oda's scheduling and took breaks off whenever he did, sure the wait would be annoying but in the long run I'd rather have better episodes.
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Well I think the best way to solve the pacing issue is to put the anime on hiatus for perhaps a full year maybe two for that matter. That way they should be able to start adapting with a decent pace with maybe a 1.5-2 chapter coverage per episode.

I think Toei should have done this back before the time-skip, Right after 3D2Y. An actual 2 year break for the anime XD.


I actually liked this episode even though the fight progression wasn't much. King Riku's speech was really well done, He was able enkindle hope into the distraught people of Dressrosa in the midst of decimation. Something that needs a lot of respect and most of all an innate ability to lead. The mark of a real King.

Nice to see the StrawHats gain recognition for their deeds.
That grandma XD

Doffy's awakening was awesome, Looking forward to the fight next episode.
Jan 23, 2016 11:56 PM

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Way to go awesome grandma!
Jan 24, 2016 12:40 AM

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Lots and lots of padding...
Jan 24, 2016 12:50 AM

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A somewhat slow episode. I expected awakening to be something more. Doflamingo already pulling out strings out of thin air, more strings converted from buildings didn't have as much impact imo.
Jan 24, 2016 3:33 AM

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The pacing is just terrible... and the most dragged out part of the fight is still ahead of us. Brace yourselves, the official version of "Namek will blow up in 5 minutes" in One Piece is finally coming.
Jan 24, 2016 4:09 AM

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One piece is getting bad and bad by each episode, the pacing is just terrible, if this keeps up it'll end in next 10 years, just ridiculous.
Jan 24, 2016 4:12 AM

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I feel bad to anime only watchers, but... read the manga... granted this arc had pacing issues in the manga too (not like the anime), but reading it all at once is slightly better than waiting 1 week for this.
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The episode wasn't really that epic to be honest but i actually can't believe that child had a Bartholomew shirt.
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Jan 24, 2016 5:19 AM

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G_Spark233 said:
Felt pretty dragged out at some points. This one chapter per episode pacing is painful.

Cool to see Doffy's awakened abilities. Waiting for the day Luffy does something similar.

Liked King Riku's speech.

Hoping for more action next episode.
ChutneyTooSpicy said:
The pacing is killing me. Have to wait till next episode for it...
Doflamingo's awakening didn't really have the impact i thought it would, it kinda just happened, well that's what i thought at least.
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The pacing is just terrible... and the most dragged out part of the fight is still ahead of us. Brace yourselves, the official version of "Namek will blow up in 5 minutes" in One Piece is finally coming.


The pacing seriously needs to improve. It's so dragged out that even the epic moments start to feel boring. There was nothing much this episode except Doffy's awakening.


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I hope next arc won't be dragged like that
Jan 24, 2016 6:18 AM

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I hope next arc won't be dragged like that

I think they may be as well unless there are filler arcs in between
Jan 24, 2016 9:00 AM

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I feel bad to anime only watchers, but... read the manga... granted this arc had pacing issues in the manga too (not like the anime), but reading it all at once is slightly better than waiting 1 week for this.


just started reading again the manga, i will put on a hold the anime, i know even the manga have some pace ussues but toei make it worse, its a shame they have the best VA and ost, Hope the next arc wont be like this.
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That grandma looks suspicious, she might hold secret to dressrosa's early days.
Maybe a secret to the last ancient weapon.
That GODA foreshadowing!

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JUST START A FILLER ARC AND STOP THIS TORTURE
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I hope next arc won't be dragged like that

I think they may be as well unless there are filler arcs in between


yeah not happening, considering the last one we got was 3 fuck*n episodes...
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Started out pretty awesome with some fighting parts and some Zoro/Franky scenes. But like last episode half of it was people running away. But I have to say, fucking Rikku's speech made me cry lol.



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Doffy's awakening was really underwhelming. I still haven't decided if 4th Gear is awesome or retarded.

Loved Riku's speech, though. I was annoyed with yet more scenes of people running and buildings falling, but at least it had an emotional impact and a point this time.
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The towns people finally started helping out instead of running like crazy people ...
Jan 24, 2016 1:39 PM
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I could not vote at all because tbh to rate down one of my favorite anime just isn't going to happen. Didn't like production team, stretching out the episodes like Luffy himself by splicing-in scenes, so they add scenes that were never there in the manga to lengthen the episode it even further, and use motion stills with background music to eat up more time. I give it another 8 or 10 episodes to conclude the final battle and leading to the many setup episodes leading the next arc. xD

NOTE1: The animation of Gear 4 was great, but the episodes were drawn out too long, actually they should've included more chapters to get us to the setup episodes leading to next arc xD sooner rather than later. I digress and I digress even more...

NOTE2: How about a shorter opening, Gol D. Roger yadda yadda yadda we get it already sheesh! Followed up a very thorough recap. WHY? I don't have a short term memory problem I can remember exactly what I watched from one episode to the next and if I needed a refresh, I'd just go back reread the manga. That's all I got! lol
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Petrol said:

NOTE2: How about a shorter opening, Gol D. Roger yadda yadda yadda we get it already sheesh! Followed up a very thorough recap. WHY? I don't have a short term memory problem I can remember exactly what I watched from one episode to the next and if I needed a refresh, I'd just go back reread the manga. That's all I got! lol

If they made the opening and recap shorter, then the actual episodes would be dragged out even more. The gold roger thing is not there to remind you anything but to eat up time so they don't have to drag the episode even more than they already have to.
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Dahaka_ said:
Petrol said:

NOTE2: How about a shorter opening, Gol D. Roger yadda yadda yadda we get it already sheesh! Followed up a very thorough recap. WHY? I don't have a short term memory problem I can remember exactly what I watched from one episode to the next and if I needed a refresh, I'd just go back reread the manga. That's all I got! lol

If they made the opening and recap shorter, then the actual episodes would be dragged out even more. The gold roger thing is not there to remind you anything but to eat up time so they don't have to drag the episode even more than they already have to.


Not an unexpected response but let me get to my grand master plan of including an extra chapter by removing those fluff from the opening, it's entirely plausible that it would work. Plan B, you removed fluff at the opening then on the back-end after the brief preview, you include new mini comical skit of chibi OP pirates, I forgot the Japanese term for it, but I think you know what I mean. I have a plan C but that's not needed if plan A and B succeed.

(Think they call that comic short at the end of an anime "omake", but I'm not certain.)
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I can't stop laughing.

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One piece is getting bad and bad by each episode, the pacing is just terrible, if this keeps up it'll end in next 10 years, just ridiculous.


which is expected the manga wont be done for like 6 + at least
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The people are motivated and helping others to survive. Dat Kuma shirt.
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Dahaka_ said:
Petrol said:

NOTE2: How about a shorter opening, Gol D. Roger yadda yadda yadda we get it already sheesh! Followed up a very thorough recap. WHY? I don't have a short term memory problem I can remember exactly what I watched from one episode to the next and if I needed a refresh, I'd just go back reread the manga. That's all I got! lol

If they made the opening and recap shorter, then the actual episodes would be dragged out even more. The gold roger thing is not there to remind you anything but to eat up time so they don't have to drag the episode even more than they already have to.


its not hard to skip the start but people just cry lol

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JUST START A FILLER ARC AND STOP THIS TORTURE


or people can skip the first 10 mins and get over it
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metsujin said:
I feel bad to anime only watchers, but... read the manga... granted this arc had pacing issues in the manga too (not like the anime), but reading it all at once is slightly better than waiting 1 week for this.


just started reading again the manga, i will put on a hold the anime, i know even the manga have some pace ussues but toei make it worse, its a shame they have the best VA and ost, Hope the next arc wont be like this.


Petrol said:
I could not vote at all because tbh to rate down one of my favorite anime just isn't going to happen. Didn't like production team, stretching out the episodes like Luffy himself by splicing-in scenes, so they add scenes that were never there in the manga to lengthen the episode it even further, and use motion stills with background music to eat up more time. I give it another 8 or 10 episodes to conclude the final battle and leading to the many setup episodes leading the next arc. xD

NOTE1: The animation of Gear 4 was great, but the episodes were drawn out too long, actually they should've included more chapters to get us to the setup episodes leading to next arc xD sooner rather than later. I digress and I digress even more...

NOTE2: How about a shorter opening, Gol D. Roger yadda yadda yadda we get it already sheesh! Followed up a very thorough recap. WHY? I don't have a short term memory problem I can remember exactly what I watched from one episode to the next and if I needed a refresh, I'd just go back reread the manga. That's all I got! lol


the manga is stretched out also.. id rather it be stretched out

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G_Spark233 said:
Felt pretty dragged out at some points. This one chapter per episode pacing is painful.

Cool to see Doffy's awakened abilities. Waiting for the day Luffy does something similar.

Liked King Riku's speech.

Hoping for more action next episode.
ChutneyTooSpicy said:
The pacing is killing me. Have to wait till next episode for it...
Doflamingo's awakening didn't really have the impact i thought it would, it kinda just happened, well that's what i thought at least.
Dahaka_ said:
The pacing is just terrible... and the most dragged out part of the fight is still ahead of us. Brace yourselves, the official version of "Namek will blow up in 5 minutes" in One Piece is finally coming.


The pacing seriously needs to improve. It's so dragged out that even the epic moments start to feel boring. There was nothing much this episode except Doffy's awakening.


its been like this for 100 episodes and people still crying..

Dahaka_ said:
The pacing is just terrible... and the most dragged out part of the fight is still ahead of us. Brace yourselves, the official version of "Namek will blow up in 5 minutes" in One Piece is finally coming.
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I feel bad to anime only watchers, but... read the manga... granted this arc had pacing issues in the manga too (not like the anime), but reading it all at once is slightly better than waiting 1 week for this.


dont worry as a anime only watcher i could careless about how slow it is.... its been slow for 100 episodes the fact people still cry its hilarious
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"its not hard to skip the start but people just cry lol"

"or people can skip the first 10 mins and get over it"

"its been like this for 100 episodes and people still crying.."

"dont worry as a anime only watcher i could careless about how slow it is.... its been slow for 100 episodes the fact people still cry its hilarious"

so you are the one great fan and everyone else is rubbish?

Those are pretty vindictive retorts to innocent comments made by "ONE PIECE FANS" That you think they are stupid and inferior you, right?

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I wouldn't mind if One Piece became a short anime. For example 10 minutes an episode.
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I wouldn't mind if One Piece became a short anime. For example 10 minutes an episode.

That's not a bad idea at all!
maybe 12 with OP and END, someone pushes that to TOEI, that's more advertising time!
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"awakening" lol ok. It's been more than a decade since the devil fruits were defined. What it is and what it can do. And now there's like a second stage to that? I'll take this with a grain of salt.
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"awakening" lol ok. It's been more than a decade since the devil fruits were defined. What it is and what it can do. And now there's like a second stage to that? I'll take this with a grain of salt.
The awakening appeared for the first time in Impel Down,

Petrol said:
Dahaka_ said:

If they made the opening and recap shorter, then the actual episodes would be dragged out even more. The gold roger thing is not there to remind you anything but to eat up time so they don't have to drag the episode even more than they already have to.


Not an unexpected response but let me get to my grand master plan of including an extra chapter by removing those fluff from the opening, it's entirely plausible that it would work. Plan B, you removed fluff at the opening then on the back-end after the brief preview, you include new mini comical skit of chibi OP pirates, I forgot the Japanese term for it, but I think you know what I mean. I have a plan C but that's not needed if plan A and B succeed.

(Think they call that comic short at the end of an anime "omake", but I'm not certain.)

Plan A wouldn't suceed because it would lead to fillers, and Toei obviously doesn't want fillers. Plan B is also not worth it, because making skits takes time and money, so it's a much better option for them to just insert the same shit every episode.
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The ending made me emotional
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The towns people finally started helping out instead of running like crazy people ...

omg the feels~ T-T
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"awakening" lol ok. It's been more than a decade since the devil fruits were defined. What it is and what it can do. And now there's like a second stage to that? I'll take this with a grain of salt.
The awakening appeared for the first time in Impel Down.


Really? when exactly? I can't remember. I want to do a little research about it but I'm pretty I'll just be spoiled about other things.

(Also.. wow! I got a notification that someone quoted me. Nice going MAL.)
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