| Arpeggio, Arpeggio, Arpeggio!!! |
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| Wow, Natsume :O So glad to see it there in the top 2! |
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jmal said: rederoin said: Keetriver said: *1. 27,067 Infinite Stratos 2 Oh dear god this is not happening..... These sales figures are disgusting to put it lightly.... Welcome to 3-4 months ago. And to a volume that's sold 40% more than subsequent volumes because it's a quasi-OVA. This is why I wish I could abandon Vol. 1 rankings entirely, but people want (understandably) a way to compare sales early in the season, without waiting for months to get a few volumes on the he per-volume and averages lists. Ah well... And I'd imagine this is a big reason why producers also want big first volume sales and stuff it with extras... its more on peoples minds then the other volume sales, and probably helps their stocks too. People tend to remember the first volume sales since only the hardcore really track volume sales beyond the first. |
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danuchiha99 said: Any know where I can buy BluRays, I'm trying to get the Kill la Kill BDs? CDJapan or Play-Asia. I only have experience with the former (bought the OST from them) but they appear to be trustworthy, and from what I heard Play-Asia is a popular and liked option as well. |
Dodgers20 said: danuchiha99 said: Any know where I can buy BluRays, I'm trying to get the Kill la Kill BDs? CDJapan or Play-Asia. I only have experience with the former (bought the OST from them) but they appear to be trustworthy, and from what I heard Play-Asia is a popular and liked option as well. I only use amazonjp |
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| I use CDJapan.co.jp (good bonuses, points, has the most shipping options, let's you add to orders and move items between orders) mostly these days but used to use Amazon.co.jp (best Bluray discount, no bonuses or points overseas, only AmazonGlobal DHL shipping) for years and have used HMV.co.jp once too (bonuses, points, EMS shipping only which is slow here once it becomes Canada Post at this end). Never used Honto since they won't tell me the shipping charge until after they ship it. Anywhere else pretty much requires a proxy. |
Dodgers20 said: danuchiha99 said: Any know where I can buy BluRays, I'm trying to get the Kill la Kill BDs? CDJapan or Play-Asia. I only have experience with the former (bought the OST from them) but they appear to be trustworthy, and from what I heard Play-Asia is a popular and liked option as well. YesAsia.com too~ it's the only shop I use to import japanese stuff because it has free worldwide shipping (but it's really slow) |
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jmal said: Aozumi said: YesAsia.com too~ it's the only shop I use to import japanese stuff because it has free worldwide shipping (but it's really slow) "Free", but they're baking it into the price with markup (or, lack of discount if you want to look at it that way). (...) yeah, I'm aware of that but the free shipping helps because I always buy a lot at the same time (and living in Europe doesn't help to reduce costs....) :P this and I'm more familiar with the shop (already 5-6 years since my first order) :x though I was thinking on trying CDJapan an Mandarake next time because of some books and novels only they have |
NemuriNezumiFeb 12, 2014 1:40 PM
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| It will never leave, it will never leave!!XD tsubasalover said: So... New season when? :)13. *,479 *,*23,970 Gintama: Kanketsu-hen - Yorozuya yo Eien Nare Regular Edition 14. *,362 *,*60,829 Gintama: Kanketsu-hen - Yorozuya yo Eien Nare Limited Edition rederoin said: ... Am I the only one who likes this show around here? T.T 27 Jan -> 10 November 3.4k -> 7.8k Hoozuki no Reitetsu And no, I'm not a fangirl, I find it genuinely interesting. I guess I have a soft spot for anime that talk about japanese folklore, huh. |
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| I had used amazon exclusively since 2006 until last year when some of their quirks and those of DHL drove me to try CDJapan where I am happy aside from paying retail - tax and points. So I am just using them now. FedEx ticked me off last week by refusing to get my package out of a container that night after it arrived late, so I had to wait until the next day but so far no complaints about CDJapan... Hmm, except that I often have to inform them of new releases rather than them informing me but they are very quick when I send them request emails so with me on the ball about new releases I want it works out OK. |
*2. 11,871 11,871 Natsume Yuujinchou: Itsuka Yuki no Hi ni Limited Edition Good good.Definitely nice to see all of those in top 5.*3. *9,076 *9,076 Aoki Hagane no Arpeggio: Ars Nova Vol.2 *4. *6,731 *6,731 Kill la Kill Vol.2 Limited Edition *6. *2,879 *2,879 Kyoukai no Kanata Vol.2 Not bad KnK!...i wish it would sell more than Free!, but meh fujoshi power is too stronk.*6. 15,129 *15,129 Nourin OP "Himitsu no Door kara Ai ni Kite" by Yukari Tamura Why?? i dont know how about you guys, but isnt this opening like...really average? compared to Noragami's and some other.Damn.*1. 27,067 Infinite Stratos 2 HUH, AGAIN? wow, Japan ,_, |
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iLostReason said: Taste is subjective of course. I bought Nourin OP but not Noragami's though I will be buying the ED for it as I love Tia/SuperCell.... *6. 15,129 *15,129 Nourin OP "Himitsu no Door kara Ai ni Kite" by Yukari Tamura Why?? i dont know how about you guys, but isnt this opening like...really average? compared to Noragami's and some other.Damn.... And that's what you mostly need to look at for sales. Nourin OP is popular because it's sung by seiyuu/singer Tamura Yukari. Yukarin is very popular and sales are mostly a popularity contest. Noragami's OP is by Hello Sleepwalkers: 36. *2,100 **6,477 Noragami OP "Goya no Machiawase" by Hello Sleepwalkers This is actually their best single yet so they are not a very popular Japanese rock band, not yet anyway. http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hello_Sleepwalkers 発売日 タイトル 規格 規格品番 最高位 1st 2011年10月5日 センチメンタル症候群 12cm CD HSW-1 - 2nd 2012年6月6日 円盤飛来 12cm CD AZCS-2019 96位 3rd 2014年1月29日 午夜の待ち合わせ 12cm CD AZCS-2031 23位 The last one on the list is the Noragami OP ranked at highest, 23rd. Their previous single ranked 96, their first didn't rank at all. |
hpulleyFeb 13, 2014 7:03 AM
| ^^^ NagiAsu v2 has DVDs counted while v1 did not which is too bad but likely explains the difference. WA2 v2 outselling v1 by a bit is likely just data noise but I am glad it is consistent. As v1 did not have an event ticket or special bonuses I am at least hoping it won't drop off more and perhaps along with all the other merch it can manage to get a season 2 somehow. |
Hahalollawl said: Some due to v1 stock issues, yes. Garupan et al.... Have we ever seen a show with significantly greater v2 sales than v1? |
| All I really care about is Free! Keep it up my swimmerbros. Seriously though, can't get over how well it actually ended up doing, and that just pleases me so. I'll be arranging a space on my shelf for all the volumes shortly. |
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hpulley said: iLostReason said: Taste is subjective of course. I bought Nourin OP but not Noragami's though I will be buying the ED for it as I love Tia/SuperCell.... *6. 15,129 *15,129 Nourin OP "Himitsu no Door kara Ai ni Kite" by Yukari Tamura Why?? i dont know how about you guys, but isnt this opening like...really average? compared to Noragami's and some other.Damn.... And that's what you mostly need to look at for sales. Nourin OP is popular because it's sung by seiyuu/singer Tamura Yukari. Yukarin is very popular and sales are mostly a popularity contest. Noragami's OP is by Hello Sleepwalkers: 36. *2,100 **6,477 Noragami OP "Goya no Machiawase" by Hello Sleepwalkers This is actually their best single yet so they are not a very popular Japanese rock band, not yet anyway. http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hello_Sleepwalkers 発売日 タイトル 規格 規格品番 最高位 1st 2011年10月5日 センチメンタル症候群 12cm CD HSW-1 - 2nd 2012年6月6日 円盤飛来 12cm CD AZCS-2019 96位 3rd 2014年1月29日 午夜の待ち合わせ 12cm CD AZCS-2031 23位 The last one on the list is the Noragami OP ranked at highest, 23rd. Their previous single ranked 96, their first didn't rank at all. Of course.I actually shouldnt have say anything about Nourin's OP, since its people's choice to buy it and enjoy.I guess i was just disappointed that song which IMO(!) sounds like 20 others i heard before sold way more than one which is imo unique and has amazing sound to it, but then again it was probably selfish.I find it unfair tho, that something sells way more just because its an single released by someone hella popular (Tamura Yukari in this case), but thats just me moaning about something that will never change, so anyways meh. Also, i checked HS singles sale data earlier as well, and im really happy for them.Anyways, thanks for more detailed info =) |
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| I understand your feelings very well. Sometimes I go to a bar and hear a really good indie band or singer and I buy their self published CD for $20 to help them out and to have their song but I know that most of them will never make it. Life isn't fair and this is especially true for artists, sadly, of all media. Hopefully with this single ranking at 23rd and this popular anime showcasing their work, Hello Sleepwalkers will continue to become more popular and more successful. |
| What the...Am I dreaming or are those excellent sales for Natsume? |
| *1. 27,067 Infinite Stratos 2 PLEASE GIVE ME INFINITE STRATOS 3!! |
| 「友達なんていない。人はすぐに裏切るし、学校っていうのは誰かを標的にしないとやってられない馬鹿共の集 まり。ままごとみたいな役決めて、仲のいいふりして都合が悪くなったら知らんぷり。そんな奴らと仲良くした いとか全然思わない。」 |
scytheavatar said: Jiharo said: *1. 27,067 Infinite Stratos 2 PLEASE GIVE ME INFINITE STRATOS 3!! The odds of there never being a IS3 is pretty high. The anime has caught up with the LN and the author apparently has gone AWOL. So IS is pretty much in the same situation as Haruhi was, especially with the huge drop in S2 sales compared to S1. Huh? I saw online that the anime have not caught up with the LN yet. IS2 only animate the next 3 volumes of the LN according to what I researched. So IS+IS2 only animated like 6 volumes out of like 8? The 9th is pending. If there's no IS3 I'll prolly start reading the LN. |
| 「友達なんていない。人はすぐに裏切るし、学校っていうのは誰かを標的にしないとやってられない馬鹿共の集 まり。ままごとみたいな役決めて、仲のいいふりして都合が悪くなったら知らんぷり。そんな奴らと仲良くした いとか全然思わない。」 |
| To have easier access to/back-up/archive the estimates I keep track off, I made/revived a forum I made years ago and turned into a semi 'blog'. Just to make it easier for myself. I'll obviously keep posting the estimates here every 2 weeks on Tuesday in the new sales thread, but since I always put the estimations together on Monday evening/night(GMT +1), i'll be posting on that site on Monday evening/night. http://rederoin.motionsforum.com/ |
| It isn't quite "budget be damned" but if I have to have it, I have to have it. I have decided not to buy a show because I think it is too expensive for what it is, for the bonuses it contains but not because I am already buying too many shows. I bought 7 full length shows last fall 2012 (plus some shorts) which was CRAZY silly and too much but... I had to have them so I got them. If money had really been no object and I bought everything I even remotely liked then I could have bought a TON of shows in fall 2012, I think that has to be one of my favorite seasons ever. Winter 2013 was second, I bought 6 shows, another absolutely wonderful season IMO. I buy it right away; if it's a must buy show then it's a must buy NOW show for me. If I'm not sure I need it, if I don't get excited about getting it right away then it is likely that I'll never buy it. I only bought 4 shows (still buying) from fall 2013 but that is still actually a good season for me. Before the crazy fall 2012 season I tended to just buy 2 series per season but again that's just because that was the number that was so good I had to have them. So perhaps this is just a return to normalcy for me but I sure wish there were as many amazing shows now as there were a year ago. |
| Timing can be a factor. Two Nobunaga shows right now with characters from history... bad idea though it looks like neither one is stealing sales from anything. Wizard Barristers, Magical Warfare, Witch Craft Works while Tokyo Ravens is still running? Not a great idea. Looks like WCW is going to win that one. Wake Up Girls! seems rushed but better to run it now than while LoveLive! or IdolM@ster are on... |
| The thing about timing is that, while it's definitely plausible and almost certainly a factor, any kind of convincing test would be difficult to do. Each individual 30-show season is a small sample by itself, prone to variances in quality and advertising. Too, they're potentially affected by penny-pinching anticipation for seasons after it and budget crunch caused by seasons before it in a rolling fashion (or lack thereof, in both cases). There are too many cases of big hits coming out in otherwise strong seasons and relatively few hits coming out in otherwise weak seasons for timing to be a particularly dominant factor. That we're looking right now at a very weak winter on the heels of a fairly weak fall would be an argument against the specific notion of series getting a breakout chance in a weak season - to me, that suggests that what happens when there's no killer series is that people just buy less. It might be more relevant as a limiting factor for hits in seasons with several of them (Angel Beats versus K-on s2 in Spring 2010, possibly) rather than none of them, but at that point quality probably plays at least as big a role. |
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jmal said: But yes if, say, most people buy 2 shows and a certain show tends to be most people's #3, then yeah it could lose out. But that would require a pretty huge set of coincidences, especially if we try to rationalize sales as low as SSY's or Zetsuten's using it. Pretty sure that if a title were really that broadly popular you'd see it reflected in fanart, doujinshi, and other free or less expensive expressions of fandom. I wouldn't necessarily agree with that point. Zetsuten's manga specifically got a decent-sized bump from the anime, as did Btoom and Kamisama Kiss from that fall. There have been a decent number of other fairly recent cases (Chihayafuru, Kimi to Boku, Kamisama Dolls) where manga sales went significantly up without a disc-selling anime. The low-budget fans who buy manga and the higher-budget fans who buy anime don't always seem to overlap. That, or there actually is semi-substantial evidence that some series could shut out by strong competition. The same assertion might be more valid for LNs, where the overlap is stronger and the correlations of LN sales->anime sales->LN sales bump is comparatively tight. |
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jmal said: If you sell under 2k, not to mention under 1k, that goes well beyond just having some rough competition. Something else would be a better explanation. That's true for shows deep below 3k, but what about the ones right below it? Sakurasou and Kamisama Kiss both picked up substantial boosts in source material and were right below 3k in averages. Getting an extra 1k in average disc sales would have shifted their odds of their getting a sequel by quite a bit. I'm not big on finagling failed series into relevance in general, but there are definitely cases of low-cost-success high-cost-borderline status out there where the marginal effect of losing a couple hundred buyers can be argued to have made a difference. scytheavatar said: There seems to be a change in otaku buying pattern recently, series like Knk/Kill La Kill/Non Non Biyori/(to a lesser extent)Arpeggio spent much of fall season outside of top 100 and shot up closer to release. The otakus no longer seem to believe in preordering months in advance. Think WCW will probably sell extremely well, it's doing better than Arpeggio did at the same episode last season and I won't be surprise to see it outsell Arpeggio. I'm still skeptical of whether that's a permanent change in buying patterns or beliefs. Stalker data from the last sub-20k season would help validate this one way or the other, but I think it's reasonable to suggest the alternate explanation that the reason shows got those late boosts was because the people who normally buy anime had more of their limited budgets free than normal because no home run series took it from them early on. Either way, that's still probably good for WCW, seeing as this season is taking place in similar conditions. |
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