One Piece Chapter 727 Discussion

Nov 6, 2013 3:52 PM

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jpem said:

SuperSonic1986 said:

jpem said:

SuperSonic1986 said:
With One Piece? People are questioning how much of it should they watch since it would have pointless fillers, dialogues painfully dragged out slowly and whatnot. Sorry but OP still doesn't hold a candle to DB.

Sounds like you're leaving the DBZ anime out of your comparison. Which just isn't fair as it has all the same issues as the post timeskip OP adaption. It's notorious for it's horrible pacing and filler.

Hell naw.

If anything, it seems a lot of Americans still doesn't understand what role an anime plays to a series in comparison to the manga.

For example, it is very obvious that the manga can never be as detailed as an anime in its storytelling due to their fundamentals. It is the animator's job to do it.

No decent animator director would, in their right mind, have the Goku vs Freeza fight last a real life 5 minutes since it was the last, and most important, fight of Dragon Ball Z's first major arc. That is where the animators came in and did a fantastic job on the fight scenes, ensuring that at least 50% of an episode consisted of the duel at hand.

To me, it is rather obvious that Oda has been sort of making things as they are while having a general frame of what he might want. The animators suck ass, too. They made Luffy struggle against trash like Ceasar when he was clearly taken down in one blow. Both Oda and the animators have run out of actually great ideas since maybe 6 years ago.

And worse: OP doesn't believe in equality. DB had Vegeta v 18 and the latter, when she decided to get semi-serious, stomped him.

No male is ever allowed to hit Nami. Ah...if there is a female antagonist, the plot will bend itself 6 ways to Sunday to ensure it is Nami who does fight her.

Never mind the ASSPULLS I have seen...not sure which is worse: Nami's Thunder Climate Pole or Pokemon's infamous "Thunder Armor"...especially considering that is came from a guy who couldn't properly fix a ship, much less recreate the weather in consistent fashion with a stick that has infinite water, fire and lighting.

And much worse is the almost 0-character development. Oda and his producers seem more concerned with making tits larger than making a better plot. It would explain why they are so desperately giving fan-service in every episode since they time-skip.

I looked just now and my suspicions were right: OP sold the most manga editions during the Water7 arc. Everyone before and after doesn't compare at all (including the Battle of the Best).

Huh, what are you even talking about. Is your issue that the fights are too short? 50 episodes for a fight DBZ style is not interesting or commendable at all. If they did a good job Dragonball Kai would never have become a thing.

You talk about ass pulls but DBZ was the king of that with it's constant powerups and Goku always coming back to life even when it made no sense storywise for him to so. DB was set up with the perfect ending and then pretty much blew it and added the Buu saga which really isn't good at all. You say Oda hasn't had a good idea in 6 years but the overarching plot of this saga is quite a bit better than anything from DBZ. Those arcs were just as formulaic as OP but without anything really weaving it all together. At least OP still remembers it's an adventure series where as DB just turned into the precedent for making a really generic battle shounen like Bleach and Hitman Reborn.

I won't defend what they've been doing recently with the show but don't pretend that DBZ wasn't filled with BS like that as well.

And what are you even talking about with the equality thing. Nami's had only a couple actual fights and both Usopp and Zoro have defeated female characters. Besides, 1 android female kicking characters ass doesn't really make DB stand out for it's equality. Especially considering no actual females were ever really strong enough to fight alongside the MC's.

There's been character development, in a few characters at least. You just don't see it all the time. The tits thing is true but there really hasn't been all that much focus on fanservice. At least not in the manga.

Almost every arc in OP moves the story along and world builds. The same can't be said for DB. Since there was no overall story. There was only the next enemy and the next level of super saiyan.

TL;DR: OP has flaws, but DBZ has a lot more.

You made two things clear:

1- You never seen REAL Dragon Ball (Japanese i.e. original) and

2- You only watched DBZ, not Dragon Ball.

There were plenty of female characters in DB that were strong. Granted, DBZ only had Android 18 but it doesn't take away that half of the series involved women kicking ass and getting their asses kicked.

Which female antagonists did Zoro and Usopp defeated? Pffft....

What character development? Luffy is still a complete tool despite training with Gol D. Roger's first mate, Sanji is still a sexist, Zoro's Kenbunshoku Haki is non-existent since he keeps getting lost, etc, etc, etc...

Saying that DB didn't have a story is pure ignorance. The story is basically connected from when Goku met Bulma till SSJ2 Gohan obliterated Cell. The Buu Arc was the only one that truly came from nothing and, unsurprisingly, was the lowest one in terms of popularity and manga sells.

DB Kai was simply a project that a lot of fans currently hate (not as much as DBGT) and it was apparent that is was made for bitches complaining about things they have no idea about.

DB's movies were, for the most part, considered awesome with the exception of movie 4 and 11 (the only really bad ones).

The only OP movie that was deemed good was the last one. Shiki's didn't live up to the hype. Everyone else screamed mediocrity.

Nov 6, 2013 3:58 PM

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Fiji said:
This arc has become really dark. Although I am really glad Oda sped up the pacing. This flashback pretty much ended this chapter, we might see an aftermath chapter after, but glad that it wrapped up fast.

Agreed. Wouldn't say this arc is "truly" dark though, but you still see it.

Nov 6, 2013 4:33 PM

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SuperSonic1986 said:

jpem said:

SuperSonic1986 said:

jpem said:

SuperSonic1986 said:
With One Piece? People are questioning how much of it should they watch since it would have pointless fillers, dialogues painfully dragged out slowly and whatnot. Sorry but OP still doesn't hold a candle to DB.

Sounds like you're leaving the DBZ anime out of your comparison. Which just isn't fair as it has all the same issues as the post timeskip OP adaption. It's notorious for it's horrible pacing and filler.

Hell naw.

If anything, it seems a lot of Americans still doesn't understand what role an anime plays to a series in comparison to the manga.

For example, it is very obvious that the manga can never be as detailed as an anime in its storytelling due to their fundamentals. It is the animator's job to do it.

No decent animator director would, in their right mind, have the Goku vs Freeza fight last a real life 5 minutes since it was the last, and most important, fight of Dragon Ball Z's first major arc. That is where the animators came in and did a fantastic job on the fight scenes, ensuring that at least 50% of an episode consisted of the duel at hand.

To me, it is rather obvious that Oda has been sort of making things as they are while having a general frame of what he might want. The animators suck ass, too. They made Luffy struggle against trash like Ceasar when he was clearly taken down in one blow. Both Oda and the animators have run out of actually great ideas since maybe 6 years ago.

And worse: OP doesn't believe in equality. DB had Vegeta v 18 and the latter, when she decided to get semi-serious, stomped him.

No male is ever allowed to hit Nami. Ah...if there is a female antagonist, the plot will bend itself 6 ways to Sunday to ensure it is Nami who does fight her.

Never mind the ASSPULLS I have seen...not sure which is worse: Nami's Thunder Climate Pole or Pokemon's infamous "Thunder Armor"...especially considering that is came from a guy who couldn't properly fix a ship, much less recreate the weather in consistent fashion with a stick that has infinite water, fire and lighting.

And much worse is the almost 0-character development. Oda and his producers seem more concerned with making tits larger than making a better plot. It would explain why they are so desperately giving fan-service in every episode since they time-skip.

I looked just now and my suspicions were right: OP sold the most manga editions during the Water7 arc. Everyone before and after doesn't compare at all (including the Battle of the Best).

Huh, what are you even talking about. Is your issue that the fights are too short? 50 episodes for a fight DBZ style is not interesting or commendable at all. If they did a good job Dragonball Kai would never have become a thing.

You talk about ass pulls but DBZ was the king of that with it's constant powerups and Goku always coming back to life even when it made no sense storywise for him to so. DB was set up with the perfect ending and then pretty much blew it and added the Buu saga which really isn't good at all. You say Oda hasn't had a good idea in 6 years but the overarching plot of this saga is quite a bit better than anything from DBZ. Those arcs were just as formulaic as OP but without anything really weaving it all together. At least OP still remembers it's an adventure series where as DB just turned into the precedent for making a really generic battle shounen like Bleach and Hitman Reborn.

I won't defend what they've been doing recently with the show but don't pretend that DBZ wasn't filled with BS like that as well.

And what are you even talking about with the equality thing. Nami's had only a couple actual fights and both Usopp and Zoro have defeated female characters. Besides, 1 android female kicking characters ass doesn't really make DB stand out for it's equality. Especially considering no actual females were ever really strong enough to fight alongside the MC's.

There's been character development, in a few characters at least. You just don't see it all the time. The tits thing is true but there really hasn't been all that much focus on fanservice. At least not in the manga.

Almost every arc in OP moves the story along and world builds. The same can't be said for DB. Since there was no overall story. There was only the next enemy and the next level of super saiyan.

TL;DR: OP has flaws, but DBZ has a lot more.

You made two things clear:

1- You never seen REAL Dragon Ball (Japanese i.e. original) and

2- You only watched DBZ, not Dragon Ball.

There were plenty of female characters in DB that were strong. Granted, DBZ only had Android 18 but it doesn't take away that half of the series involved women kicking ass and getting their asses kicked.

Which female antagonists did Zoro and Usopp defeated? Pffft....

What character development? Luffy is still a complete tool despite training with Gol D. Roger's first mate, Sanji is still a sexist, Zoro's Kenbunshoku Haki is non-existent since he keeps getting lost, etc, etc, etc...

Saying that DB didn't have a story is pure ignorance. The story is basically connected from when Goku met Bulma till SSJ2 Gohan obliterated Cell. The Buu Arc was the only one that truly came from nothing and, unsurprisingly, was the lowest one in terms of popularity and manga sells.

DB Kai was simply a project that a lot of fans currently hate (not as much as DBGT) and it was apparent that is was made for bitches complaining about things they have no idea about.

DB's movies were, for the most part, considered awesome with the exception of movie 4 and 11 (the only really bad ones).

The only OP movie that was deemed good was the last one. Shiki's didn't live up to the hype. Everyone else screamed mediocrity.

I have seen dragonball, it's much better than Z. Japanese/dub really has nothing to do with it as i've read the manga as well. Seems like you're just trying to attack my credibility here.

Exactly, they were there and then they just vanish. Once the series turns into a battle shounen and gets serious it was entirely about guys. Nami is still a great navigator and Robin will still be one of the most relevant characters at the end of the series.

Perona and Monet off the top of my head.

Tool? He was training to get stronger. He got stronger. He's still an idiot? Sure. That's his character. People seem to be under the impression that the core personality needs to change for a character to have developed. Goku being less idiotic was actually a bad thing overall. As the comedic side of the series was nearly non-existent in Z. As for character development what you mention are pretty much running gags. Luffy comes to terms with how weak he is over the Whitebeard Saga. I really doubt early Luffy would have ordered the retreat during Sabaody. Zoro made it clear that making Luffy the pirate King is more important than his own ambition towards the timeskip, where as this was not the case at the start of the show. Usopp, Robin and Franky all had a bunch during the CP9 saga. Nami shows her growth when confronted with the man who caused Arlong(jinbei). They could definitely have more over 500 episodes but saying it's not there is wrong.

Things connected I agree, but there still wasn't really a true overall story. At least not in the same way OP has. Buu is a pretty large part of the series so you can't just ignore it and what it did to the story. Even OP's worst arcs at least added something to the big picture of the series and connect back.

So you bitch about filler in OP, then criticize DB Kai because it's for people that dislike filler and the worst arc in the series. Even with it's faster pacing it still feels like it drags due to how long the fights go on for. Like HxH (2011) the only people that should find it worse are those lost in nostalgia. By your logic if they made a OP Kai where Luffy one shots C.C. it would be for bitches who no nothing about OP. Right. Got me there.

Yeah, the movies were good back in the day maybe. I can really only remember a couple that still stand out today. And this is really just a stupid point in general. Filler movies have nothing to do with the quality of a show/manga.

Anyways, this is pretty off topic and neither off us are gonna agree so enough of that.

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Nov 6, 2013 7:25 PM

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My respect for Doflamingo went through the roof, what a great villain! Pretty good chapter, can't wait for Rebecca's fight to be over with though.

Nov 6, 2013 8:20 PM

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kiDnameDSkia said:

SkyFade said:

Jarjaxle said:
Drake looks awesome....but.....*PISSED OFF*!!!! DONFLAMINGOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! Never ever have been so Pissed on Anyone in One Piece....I actually Liked Him But now...that Bastard Deserves only to be Revealed as Traitor to People...and Death....Nothing Else...Just Most Humiliating Death Ever!!!! KILL HIM!!!!

I actually like him because at this pace, he will be the most 'evil' character. Blackbeard simply does what he has to to become Pirate King, although my own criticism is for a D. carrier seems kind of like a coward at times, while Akainu even if an extremist is still a Marine and fights for his brand of Justice similar to Garp and even Aokiji.

In One Piece, the simple good vs evil doesn't matter, in the end it is just everyone trying to accomplish their goals. Look at how much Crocodile changed in the latter years, and he should still be considered a hardcore villain.

There's a quote explaining this perfectly, and even moar it's from Dofla himself ^^
"Pirates are evil!!? The marines are righteous!!? These terms have always changed throughout the course of history... Kids who have never seen peace and kids who have never seen war have different values! Those who stand on top determine what's wrong and what's right! This very place is neutral ground! Justice will prevail you say? But of course it will! Whoever wins this war becomes justice!"

I agree with all of that to an extent, and that quote from Doflamingo has always been one of my favorite One Piece quotes... and yeah I've heard the saying that "there is no good or evil" plenty of times, but personally I always like to think that anyone can be considered good unless they do one of two things: bring harm to others for personal pleasure or gain, or force others to your whims... either of those I think are about the only acts that constitute evil, and Doflamingo has definitely done plenty of both. That's just me, but I also like to think that good and bad don't really matter, as long as people who do bad are prepared to receive consequences and people who do good are prepared to receive nothing.

Of course it might not have been what either of you meant, it just seemed like you were implying that Doflamingo is good, or perhaps simply not evil. Either way, I personally think Doflamingo is evil as all hell... but I think he's a badass, and definitely makes for an epic villain.

HalibelTheEspadaNov 6, 2013 8:39 PM

Nov 6, 2013 8:36 PM

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OnePieceQ8 said:
Damn doflamingo..!!
i wonder how long his strings!?

I wonder how manny people he can control with it?

Nov 6, 2013 8:45 PM

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BeyondNero said:

OnePieceQ8 said:
Damn doflamingo..!!
i wonder how long his strings!?

I wonder how manny people he can control with it?

Yeah I know right, I really want to know how anyone can counter it, otherwise he's got the hands of god. Perhaps, depending on how haki affects his body/ability, a certain person with lots of elasticity, might have an advantage with a stretchy body (aka no stiff joints) that can't be controlled so easily.

HalibelTheEspadaNov 6, 2013 8:49 PM

Nov 6, 2013 9:37 PM

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Not really fair to call this an Alabasta Arc copy, in reality, you can make similar claims to the Fishman Island Arc, and even the Skypiea Arc.

Nov 6, 2013 10:45 PM

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Villains take notes. Doflamingo is here.

Nov 6, 2013 10:53 PM

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Drake's design is amazing. Wonder how long it'll be before we see Urouge and Capone Bege. It'll be interesting to see if Caribou knowing about Poseidon will play in now, might be looking forward to the cover stories more then the actual chapters.

Nov 7, 2013 2:59 AM

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The chapter.....wasn't that bad.....uneventful....but not bad.

I'm betting the last two in the D Block will be Cavendish vs Rebecca.

But right now, the most interesting part of the chapter for me was seeing Drake take down Caribou.

I wonder why.

If he captured the pirate who destroyed Kaido's weapons factory, it stands to reason that Drake is working for Kaido. But....I dunno....there's got to be more to it. Law said the only way to survive in the New World was to work under a Yonko, or try to depose a Yonko, Drake doesn't seem the type to work under anyone, especially a Yonko considering he's a former marine who went out of his way to get Kaido's attention by attacking his crewmate and favorite island.

I wonder what will become of Caribou. he'll probably survive....but what'll he do next?
With his knowledge of the Ancient Weapon "Poseidon", it'd be fairy simple for him to barter his way out of trouble.

Can't wait for next week

Nov 7, 2013 3:12 AM

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JourneybyTrain said:
Drake's design is amazing. Wonder how long it'll be before we see Urouge and Capone Bege. It'll be interesting to see if Caribou knowing about Poseidon will play in now, might be looking forward to the cover stories more then the actual chapters.

Agreed.

Nov 7, 2013 7:01 AM

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SkyFade said:
Not really fair to call this an Alabasta Arc copy, in reality, you can make similar claims to the Fishman Island Arc, and even the Skypiea Arc.

well of course, everything is a repeated process, the world is recycling itself. You can find a thousand more similarities in every chapter, you can even see a pattern, but no one bothers with that because it doesn't matter alongside all the new things/ways it has been told. Also, comparing this to Alabasta is in my eyes only a bonus for the arc, because Alabasta was (to me) one of the best arcs

HalibelTheEspada said:

I agree with all of that to an extent, and that quote from Doflamingo has always been one of my favorite One Piece quotes... and yeah I've heard the saying that "there is no good or evil" plenty of times, but personally I always like to think that anyone can be considered good unless they do one of two things: bring harm to others for personal pleasure or gain, or force others to your whims... either of those I think are about the only acts that constitute evil, and Doflamingo has definitely done plenty of both. That's just me, but I also like to think that good and bad don't really matter, as long as people who do bad are prepared to receive consequences and people who do good are prepared to receive nothing.

Of course it might not have been what either of you meant, it just seemed like you were implying that Doflamingo is good, or perhaps simply not evil. Either way, I personally think Doflamingo is evil as all hell... but I think he's a badass, and definitely makes for an epic villain.

Well, it's all relative since 'good' and 'evil' are abstract concepts that people created to distinquish between those who do something for their interests and others who go against them. Globalised good and evil are just reflections of that on a wider scale, implementing moral and so on.. In this context Doflamingo is evil and the SHs are good as well as Riku, so it's all okay, but if we want to go philosophy mode we can discuss about it all day long :D
for instance maybe Doflamingo wants to create a perfect for everyone utopia, but needs to use everything he can, thus he doesn't pick methods because they lead to a greater good. Or from Monets perspective, who gave life for Doflamingo, Dofla was good to the bitter end. It all depends on the point of view, those are all subjective concepts and it doesn't really make much sense going with the discussion in that direction

This world is mine. I think this world may even just be a long, long dream I'm watching. You guys may just be illusions, and it can't be proven whether or not you really exist either. In other words, this world was created with me at the center. So what will happen if I die? I don't know. My imagination isn't very creative; I just can't imagine myself dying. In other words, there is no way this world can completely disappear. But if I die, then everyone will disappear. I am the only one in this world who won't disappear. The rest are just people I see as if in a dream.

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Nov 7, 2013 8:05 AM

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Arcling said:
Now I like Doflamingo even more. Don't want him to lose. He doesn't seem like a completely bad guy, just taking extreme measures to achieve his goals.

Ok liking him as a villain i get but actually thinking his not that bad of a person goes too much.

Nov 7, 2013 8:13 AM

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SuperSonic1986 said:

You made two things clear:

1- You never seen REAL Dragon Ball (Japanese i.e. original) and

2- You only watched DBZ, not Dragon Ball.

There were plenty of female characters in DB that were strong. Granted, DBZ only had Android 18 but it doesn't take away that half of the series involved women kicking ass and getting their asses kicked.

Which female antagonists did Zoro and Usopp defeated? Pffft....

What character development? Luffy is still a complete tool despite training with Gol D. Roger's first mate, Sanji is still a sexist, Zoro's Kenbunshoku Haki is non-existent since he keeps getting lost, etc, etc, etc...

Saying that DB didn't have a story is pure ignorance. The story is basically connected from when Goku met Bulma till SSJ2 Gohan obliterated Cell. The Buu Arc was the only one that truly came from nothing and, unsurprisingly, was the lowest one in terms of popularity and manga sells.

DB Kai was simply a project that a lot of fans currently hate (not as much as DBGT) and it was apparent that is was made for bitches complaining about things they have no idea about.

DB's movies were, for the most part, considered awesome with the exception of movie 4 and 11 (the only really bad ones).

The only OP movie that was deemed good was the last one. Shiki's didn't live up to the hype. Everyone else screamed mediocrity.

he was talking about dragon ball z, but please tell me all the strong females in dragon ball.

dragon ball z has plenty of flaws including pretty much 0 character development, negative character development really. as the story continued more and more characters became sideline cheerleaders or fodder for villains.

the story itself was simply new villain power up and beat it. the same can be said of fighting series but villains in dragon ball z had no depth to them, they had one goal, or even no goal in mind.

the actual dragon balls just became a tool to fix the z fighters mistakes - letting villains get stronger when they could have easily finished them off before their "final form"

and yeah, after watching goku or cell take nearly entire episodes to transform, you bet i was looking forward to the next episode, because i sure as hell wasn't caring to remember those ones for positive reasons.

Nov 7, 2013 8:18 AM

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Eltrik said:

SuperSonic1986 said:

You made two things clear:

1- You never seen REAL Dragon Ball (Japanese i.e. original) and

2- You only watched DBZ, not Dragon Ball.

There were plenty of female characters in DB that were strong. Granted, DBZ only had Android 18 but it doesn't take away that half of the series involved women kicking ass and getting their asses kicked.

Which female antagonists did Zoro and Usopp defeated? Pffft....

What character development? Luffy is still a complete tool despite training with Gol D. Roger's first mate, Sanji is still a sexist, Zoro's Kenbunshoku Haki is non-existent since he keeps getting lost, etc, etc, etc...

Saying that DB didn't have a story is pure ignorance. The story is basically connected from when Goku met Bulma till SSJ2 Gohan obliterated Cell. The Buu Arc was the only one that truly came from nothing and, unsurprisingly, was the lowest one in terms of popularity and manga sells.

DB Kai was simply a project that a lot of fans currently hate (not as much as DBGT) and it was apparent that is was made for bitches complaining about things they have no idea about.

DB's movies were, for the most part, considered awesome with the exception of movie 4 and 11 (the only really bad ones).

The only OP movie that was deemed good was the last one. Shiki's didn't live up to the hype. Everyone else screamed mediocrity.

he was talking about dragon ball z, but please tell me all the strong females in dragon ball.

dragon ball z has plenty of flaws including pretty much 0 character development, negative character development really. as the story continued more and more characters became sideline cheerleaders or fodder for villains.

the story itself was simply new villain power up and beat it. the same can be said of fighting series but villains in dragon ball z had no depth to them, they had one goal, or even no goal in mind.

the actual dragon balls just became a tool to fix the z fighters mistakes - letting villains get stronger when they could have easily finished them off before their "final form"

and yeah, after watching goku or cell take nearly entire episodes to transform, you bet i was looking forward to the next episode, because i sure as hell wasn't caring to remember those ones for positive reasons.

Why did you replied to him? Now we are gonna have another 2 pages with his pointless drivel.

Nov 7, 2013 9:55 AM

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Doflamingo is such a douchebag.

Nov 8, 2013 11:21 AM

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Yay for Doffy for showing us his not-to-smile-for side,He is my new favourite all-time OP Villian for sure ;) ,No one had so much influence,strength and "evil" behavior like him since croco-boy villain days.

Also wonder if Enel is actually the 7th of the schipukai , It would make sense since all the wanted posters were related to (New Generation),(Yonko),(All Shichibukai "except the clown guy),and Key Characters Like ace,silver . I can't see Enel in any category except the Shichibukai one and with that bonus He can reach that level.

Really want to see how will the dressrosa arc move forward (and what will happen The mera-mera no mina too) as Doffy appear to be a class-1 Villain and not a small fry like Caesar,and what will happen in the rest of the pirate alliance saga with Kaido as the enemy.

Nov 13, 2013 2:55 AM

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kiDnameDSkia said:

SkyFade said:
Not really fair to call this an Alabasta Arc copy, in reality, you can make similar claims to the Fishman Island Arc, and even the Skypiea Arc.

well of course, everything is a repeated process, the world is recycling itself. You can find a thousand more similarities in every chapter, you can even see a pattern, but no one bothers with that because it doesn't matter alongside all the new things/ways it has been told. Also, comparing this to Alabasta is in my eyes only a bonus for the arc, because Alabasta was (to me) one of the best arcs

I feel like its a combination of all 3 and a lil bit of Arlong Park Arc (the fact that Both the King and Nami had to buy off the land back and are portrayed as bad people to the citizens when they are not.) Well it has bits of alot of Arcs so far but its not boring at all, on the contrary it very interesting so far, but i still want to know what CP-0 is doing there?!?! Hope they aren't stronger then CP-9 (but i'm sure they will be), because idk if the SHs can deal with all this at once.

JourneybyTrain said:
Drake's design is amazing. Wonder how long it'll be before we see Urouge and Capone Bege. It'll be interesting to see if Caribou knowing about Poseidon will play in now, might be looking forward to the cover stories more then the actual chapters.

I have been think the same thing...i'm actually thinking that he might be working for Doffy since he is the one the does weaponry deals in the underworld, but then again Caribou seems like the type to call to his mommy for help and we all know that if Doffy caught whiff that a ancient weapon of destruction was around he might want to get a hold of it a while ago.
But what if he works for Crocodile since he's want an ancient weapon since the Alabasta Arc
or could be relate to Kaido somehow (since as Law mentioned in the Punk Hazard Arc that Kaido and everyone else is preparing for something big, and if some one is making an army of Zoans then they might want a weapon strong to go with that army.)

Jun 12, 2014 1:54 AM

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Really? Another "villain playing hero"?
This is like a spanish-alabasta, which isn't far from nan arabic alabasta.

Decent I guess.

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Jul 19, 2014 12:31 PM

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AzurePisces said:
He's like crocodile.. but much more evil

A successful Crocodile...

Yeah, that petty much nailed him up there as one of the bets one piece villains. I fucking love his ability.

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Feb 3, 2015 7:51 AM

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Great flashback showing how Doflamingo took over Dressrosa. 9/10

May 15, 2018 6:28 AM

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Ulquiorra

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I hate you Doffy, I hate you!

Jul 23, 2022 4:25 AM

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PurPuleT

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wow doflamingo is trash

Sep 6, 2022 3:25 PM

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AbsoluteCinema

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I live for these flashbacks

Poor King Riku and his soldiers. Must be traumatizing to attack your own people while having no control over your own body.

Doffy is such a menace. Those panels where it looks like he is holding a marionette are crazy.

Oct 29, 2022 3:12 AM

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RioFS

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That went somewhat as I expected it to. Now we need to know, why?

Dec 16, 2022 3:11 AM

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KoniginElle

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That was such a tragic past! The look of pain in the faithful citizen's eyes were making me feel so sorry. I don't know in what way could the king be forgiven for that. 😞

She got him back. If you understand the characters well enough, you'd know she did!

Dec 29, 2022 12:51 PM

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Seeing the former king of Dressrosa cry as he's forced to slaughter his own people is one of those tragic One Piece moments that will be seared into my brain forever.
It makes me want to see Flamingo get his ass kicked even more than I already did what a scumbag.

Apr 24, 2023 8:09 PM

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gannoncannon55

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okay i was starting to think this Mingo guy might be kind of cool but nope he's a son of a bitch through and through

Jan 18, 10:18 AM

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Ranxomare

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What is the prize of the country? 10 Billions of Berries!!!
Doflamingo is crazy!!!
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