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Oct 2, 2013 6:26 AM
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THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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Noo...Hitsugaya :(
Oct 2, 2013 6:37 AM
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Ugh...why are the Quincy so OP??? How did they lose to the Shinagami in the first place? This is getting annoying
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Brushrop03 said:
Ugh...why are the Quincy so OP??? How did they lose to the Shinagami in the first place? This is getting annoying

This is exactly how i feel.

What's the point of getting their bankai back? didn't they get their ass whoop even when they had bankai?
Oct 2, 2013 7:03 AM
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>>What's the point of getting their bankai back? didn't they get their ass whoop even when they had bankai?<<

Yeah, and stolen so easily. These Quincy are the best opponents.

Oh Toshi... *Takes off hat*
Oct 2, 2013 7:09 AM
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Brushrop03 said:
Ugh...why are the Quincy so OP??? How did they lose to the Shinagami in the first place. This is getting annoying


Because the last big war was a thousand year ago when Yamamoto's squad (which became the first generation captains) was composed of people almost as strong as him. Now it's full of new generation weak captain while the quincy are pretty much as strong as they were before.

The remnant of the quincies (like Ishida's grandfather) are not to be counted, they are small fries.
Oct 2, 2013 7:14 AM
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Chapter was good. And BazzB is pretty badass.

@Brushrop03

C'mon dude, those stuff were already explained in the manga.
Oct 2, 2013 7:15 AM
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The captains relied too much on their bankai. They got their collective ass kicked because they were not expecting their bankai to be stolen. That's just the element of surprise.
If they find a way to retrieve it each time it's stolen then the Quincies will be fighting opponents at their best.
Oct 2, 2013 7:20 AM
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So glad that fool lost but like always he will make a combat. I see it now he's going to be like since i got to know my Shikai better i know my bankai better now. Kubo needs to go seinen in this arc. lol
Oct 2, 2013 7:24 AM
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not bad nanao chan.. not bad.
damn i want to know what happend to soi.
Bazz B owned histsugaya's ass.. i wonder what Lt.boobies doing v,v?
uruhara found a way to get the bankais back!
5/5
Oct 2, 2013 7:26 AM

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Hopefully the way Urahara of recovering bankai won't be too instantaneous.
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Oct 2, 2013 7:45 AM

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Nanao is great and she has looks beautiful :)
Hitsugaya is down for real now? Well, it's practically the same way last chapter ended, Kubo didn't need to drag this fight. Maybe Cang Du intend to execute him with Hyōrinmaru. In my opinion, help is coming too early, though having Bankai back may not be enough.
Oct 2, 2013 7:52 AM

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Can't wait to see what Urahara has up his sleeve to restore their bankai
Oct 2, 2013 8:04 AM
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Helitenks said:
Brushrop03 said:
Ugh...why are the Quincy so OP??? How did they lose to the Shinagami in the first place? This is getting annoying

This is exactly how i feel.

What's the point of getting their bankai back? didn't they get their ass whoop even when they had bankai?

No they couldn't use their Bankais after 4 of them were stolen right after releasing them. The Captains can't fight at full power while the Quincy can. If the method Urahara developed not just bring back stolen Bankais, but make it safe to use them the Shinigami finally can put up a real fight.
Oct 2, 2013 8:15 AM
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And Urahara will steal the show again.

I love that guy. No homo.
Oct 2, 2013 8:27 AM

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Can't wait to see what Urahara has come up with and I wanna see Kurotsuchi argue with him.
Oct 2, 2013 8:37 AM

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First Generation Kenpachi Captain Unohana need to take on them... Oh wait. she's dead in training. Well, where is Zaraki Kenpachi. Hope he will do something.

Urahara should've said. "I've just completed a method to defeat quincy". Bankai's are useless to begin with.

We know Hitsugaya is not going to die. Please no more chapters with drama.
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Oct 2, 2013 9:14 AM
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That's what I thought. Urahana has found a way to get their bankai back. He also found a way that their bankai won't be stolen again. OR! Urahana has found a way to destroy all medeallon (spell wrong)
Where is Toshiro's LIET?!
Oct 2, 2013 9:19 AM

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In case of Hitsugaya's Hyourinmaru, the bankai could make a difference. The vacuum bubbles and the weaving of ice-threads that he came up with made his ice incredibly strong and sharp. He just didn't have enough ice, not enough to make it anything more than a single paper-thin wall/sword.

Not really sure what bankai could do for Soifon though, her bankai is the most unpractical bankai of them all. And it wasn't even strong enough to finish the second Espada.

Oct 2, 2013 9:37 AM
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I hope they get upgraded forms of their bankais. I mean how else would they stand a chance against the quincies?Kido?
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Brushrop03 said:
Ugh...why are the Quincy so OP??? How did they lose to the Shinagami in the first place? This is getting annoying

New enemies, of course trhey're overpowered, that's how Bleach rolls. Besides, these Captain have lost their Bankai, so they're weaker than they normally are, no wonder they're getting owned. But hey, at least they're getting the Bankai back soon. You know, great decision: Make them loose their Bankai and fail hard , just to give them their Bankai back a couple of chapter later. Awesome. *cough*
Oct 2, 2013 10:13 AM

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Blah. Bankais. Definitely a crutch. I don't see how it will make a difference. Logically at least. Then again this is Bleach. Should have stopped at Aizen. Writing has just been getting unbearable to read....but I guess i have to see it to the end.
Oct 2, 2013 10:21 AM

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Everyone's gonna get there bankai back! Wooot!
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Brushrop03 said:
Blah. Bankais. Definitely a crutch. I don't see how it will make a difference. Logically at least. Then again this is Bleach. Should have stopped at Aizen. Writing has just been getting unbearable to read....but I guess i have to see it to the end.


Ikr?
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Oct 2, 2013 10:35 AM

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the only thing that was interesting about these fights is that the captains didn't have their bankai but now that they're getting their bankai back im sure hitsuguya will just end up one shot-ing bazz b. the only reason they got their bankai taken in the first place is to add the false drama that kubo is known for, i hate to say it but even though bleach is a shounen manga the fights are probably the weakest aspect. in every arc the fights follow the exact same formula. the power scale in bleach makes zero since since characters are made to look weaker just to get they're asses kicked and then all of a sudden the enemies become less OP and power down so that the protagonists can win.
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Brushrop03 said:
Ugh...why are the Quincy so OP??? How did they lose to the Shinagami in the first place? This is getting annoying

don't worry they'll only be OP for as long as kubo needs them to be to add to the suspense. wait in a few weeks they'll be getting cut down left and right just like the arrancar fodder.
Oct 2, 2013 10:50 AM

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Having the sternritters fight the captains they stole bankais from is a pretty dumb strategy. The captains know there own bankai's weaknesses better than they do and being around them only increases the chances of somehow stealing it back. In Toushiro's case the guy who stole his bankai would only be providing more water to fuel his shikai.
Oct 2, 2013 10:51 AM

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Wow, it's three chapters since the Shinigami fought and they already need external help. I don't think this is entirely justified by losing their bankai, just look at Nanao explaining to a Quincy their weaknesses and then Blond Byakuya going "Guys, you're kinda dumb, that's why this is a one sided massacre."
Oct 2, 2013 12:12 PM

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Good God, this is getting pathetic. Why the hell did Nanao think it was a good idea not to teach everyone that Kido technique? I thought she was smart. And where the hell are the Vizards?
Oct 2, 2013 12:50 PM

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Can't wait to see Urahara enter the field, he always has something up his sleeve.

Brushrop03 said:
Ugh...why are the Quincy so OP??? How did they lose to the Shinagami in the first place? This is getting annoying


Just because they're humans doesn't mean they're weak. You're basing their strength from what you know of the Quincy from mainly just Ishida.
After all, Quincy's powers are amplified by Reishi and the whole mothafucking Soul Society is made out of that. They said it earlier, the initial war wasn't even a war to them it was a way to set up for the future(aka now), to get inside and destroy them.
Touch me, you filthy casual~
Oct 2, 2013 1:37 PM

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Nooooo Soifon. :(

Quincy's are just too bad ass.
Oct 2, 2013 2:54 PM

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For once someone said it: "SS you are dumb fucks". Did Hitsu use Ishida's trap*? I expected him to say that he is the quincy as well.

*Yeah, I know it's not the same trap, it just looked identical to me.
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I laugh everytime I see Mayuri.
Oct 2, 2013 3:33 PM

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Wow..I'm impressed with Nanao...I though she was just a chracter foil for her captain but to think she is useful is somewhat both shocking and amusing...
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Oct 2, 2013 3:37 PM
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Urahara saves the day.






Oct 2, 2013 3:58 PM
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Urahara will help them get their bankai back lol good one but lets see if its not too late for Hitsugaya though
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Not really sure what bankai could do for Soifon though, her bankai is the most unpractical bankai of them all. And it wasn't even strong enough to finish the second Espada.


It was strong enough to finish him if it could hit head on.

As for people that might think Soi Fon is dead because her reiatsu disappeared i urge them to go to Chapter 549 and read Soi-Fons entry again.
http://eatmanga.com/Manga-Scan/Bleach/Bleach-549/page-13
Oct 2, 2013 4:59 PM

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3/5: was ok, but Hitsugaya is a very boring character...
I hope that the Kido strategy of Nanao will really help a little and not being overwhelmed next chapter by a new power or only boring supermegapowers of a random enemy.
Even Urahara, ok I want Senbonzakura Kageyoshi back to Byakuya, but the others??? Hisugaya is useless, I prefer when Soi Fon is doing her best, with hakuda, hoho, shunko etc and her very deathly shikai...
Komamura's Bankai is okay but always the same, or maybe we will see something...?

And I also want to see the vizard and the vice-captains doing something useful.
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Good God, this is getting pathetic. Why the hell did Nanao think it was a good idea not to teach everyone that Kido technique? I thought she was smart. And where the hell are the Vizards?

1) she is quiet strong with kido, I guess
2) not everyone is strong with kido
3) and the most important it's temporal!

Monad said:
hungry_bunny said:

Not really sure what bankai could do for Soifon though, her bankai is the most unpractical bankai of them all. And it wasn't even strong enough to finish the second Espada.


It was strong enough to finish him if it could hit head on.

But it hadn't killed him, so it's not strong enough. Now all them have this quincy skin ... so her bankai is useless
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Kyoraku/Nanao holding back Haschwald was neat. It was kind of funny to see Toushiro getting trolled (We all know Grimmjow/Ichigo/Kenpachi is more suited to fight Bazz B), but did Soifon just get "off-screened?"

Urahara to the rescue once again at the end there. I'm not even worried about the current captains because I know when Ichigo/Kenpachi/Grimmjow/Old schoolers/Others show up, it will be a game-changer (that Aizen). Though let's see how much of a difference some average threats can make with their Bankai returned first.
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Wannabiteme said:
yhunata said:
Good God, this is getting pathetic. Why the hell did Nanao think it was a good idea not to teach everyone that Kido technique? I thought she was smart. And where the hell are the Vizards?

1) she is quiet strong with kido, I guess
2) not everyone is strong with kido
3) and the most important it's temporal!


1. She just said that she was selected for her Kido prowess.
2. Agreed, but the captains should be good enough to use it.
3. Doesn't matter. They can use that time to recover or come up with a strategy.

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For once someone said it: "SS you are dumb fucks". Did Hitsu use Ishida's trap*? I expected him to say that he is the quincy as well.

*Yeah, I know it's not the same trap, it just looked identical to me.


I thought the same thing. When I first saw that, Ishida's pentagram trap was the first thing that came to mind.

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I laugh everytime I see Mayuri.


Indeed, what the fuck is he wearing?
Oct 2, 2013 11:38 PM

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Dude they're so fucked.....or maybe not.....Go Urahara!!
Oct 3, 2013 5:20 AM
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It looks like Urahara will save them.
Oct 3, 2013 7:43 AM

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Further down the hill. 4/10.
Isayama Hajime should be awarded The Manga with The Highest Inconsistencies of Characters' Appearances.
He keeps performing multiple plastic surgeries on those Shingeki No Kyojin characters in a SINGLE chapter.
Yes, I've read up to the latest chapter of Shingeki No Kyojin manga.
Forced myself to read through the kidsketching chapters after the anime's ended. At least from now on, I only have to go through the hell once a month.
Patiently awaiting SNK TV/movie/OVA anime-sequel.
The 2015 SNK live-action movie would probably suck.
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Monad said:
hungry_bunny said:

Not really sure what bankai could do for Soifon though, her bankai is the most unpractical bankai of them all. And it wasn't even strong enough to finish the second Espada.


It was strong enough to finish him if it could hit head on.

As for people that might think Soi Fon is dead because her reiatsu disappeared i urge them to go to Chapter 549 and read Soi-Fons entry again.
http://eatmanga.com/Manga-Scan/Bleach/Bleach-549/page-13


Or just remember that reiastu disappearing means absolutely nothing in Bleach. It happens all the time and just means the character is badly injured or knocked out because Kubo has no balls when it comes to killing his precious characters.

This chapter was made of everything awful. Even worse than the last chapter where the fights were basically reset and now the captains are getting curbstomped again because Kubo can't right a compelling fight to save his life.
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yhunata said:
Wannabiteme said:
yhunata said:
Good God, this is getting pathetic. Why the hell did Nanao think it was a good idea not to teach everyone that Kido technique? I thought she was smart. And where the hell are the Vizards?

1) she is quiet strong with kido, I guess
2) not everyone is strong with kido
3) and the most important it's temporal!


1. She just said that she was selected for her Kido prowess.
2. Agreed, but the captains should be good enough to use it.
3. Doesn't matter. They can use that time to recover or come up with a strategy.


2. Every captain? Have you ever seen Zaraki using kido? Other may or may not be strong enough but
3. It matter. If you have technique that you can use, let say, 5 minutes, and it takes lots of time to learn it you don't learn others. It's better to let them train in their own domain(like ice+sand ). She can teach guys like Mayuri or Byakuya(if he was there). Some captains would just waste their time.
Oct 3, 2013 9:37 AM
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OMG TOSHIRO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
WHY WHY AND SUI FENG TOO WTF DO SOMETHING KUROTSUTCHI!!!
the only one who's ACTUALLY doing something is Nana-chan and Urahara! Yey Urahara<3


.....Meanwhile, Where the FUCK have you been, ICHIGO?
Oct 3, 2013 12:47 PM

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Hitsugaya's trap was just funny, it lasted how much, a second? He's finally down now, and they STILL won't kill him off, because of Quincy's pride... Which is just giving a chance for Gotei, especially since it looks like Urahara is going to save everyone's asses one more time.
And did Nanao actually do anything after all o_o
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Wannabiteme said:
yhunata said:
Wannabiteme said:
yhunata said:
Good God, this is getting pathetic. Why the hell did Nanao think it was a good idea not to teach everyone that Kido technique? I thought she was smart. And where the hell are the Vizards?

1) she is quiet strong with kido, I guess
2) not everyone is strong with kido
3) and the most important it's temporal!


1. She just said that she was selected for her Kido prowess.
2. Agreed, but the captains should be good enough to use it.
3. Doesn't matter. They can use that time to recover or come up with a strategy.


2. Every captain? Have you ever seen Zaraki using kido? Other may or may not be strong enough but
3. It matter. If you have technique that you can use, let say, 5 minutes, and it takes lots of time to learn it you don't learn others. It's better to let them train in their own domain(like ice+sand ). She can teach guys like Mayuri or Byakuya(if he was there). Some captains would just waste their time.


2. Of course Zaraki can't use Kido. But she can at least inform the others that there is such a technique, just to give them a heads up.
3. We just saw in this chapter that Hitsugaya needed more time, so even if it was temporary, it would've helped leaps. In the end, all we saw was utter stupidity from yet another Shinigami.
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yhunata said:
Wannabiteme said:
yhunata said:
Wannabiteme said:
yhunata said:
Good God, this is getting pathetic. Why the hell did Nanao think it was a good idea not to teach everyone that Kido technique? I thought she was smart. And where the hell are the Vizards?

1) she is quiet strong with kido, I guess
2) not everyone is strong with kido
3) and the most important it's temporal!


1. She just said that she was selected for her Kido prowess.
2. Agreed, but the captains should be good enough to use it.
3. Doesn't matter. They can use that time to recover or come up with a strategy.


2. Every captain? Have you ever seen Zaraki using kido? Other may or may not be strong enough but
3. It matter. If you have technique that you can use, let say, 5 minutes, and it takes lots of time to learn it you don't learn others. It's better to let them train in their own domain(like ice+sand ). She can teach guys like Mayuri or Byakuya(if he was there). Some captains would just waste their time.


2. Of course Zaraki can't use Kido. But she can at least inform the others that there is such a technique, just to give them a heads up.
3. We just saw in this chapter that Hitsugaya needed more time, so even if it was temporary, it would've helped leaps. In the end, all we saw was utter stupidity from yet another Shinigami.


2) You actually forgot that Shinigami spend years/decade learning how to do basic kido. Such specialized and irregular kido will not be learnt overnight and for 'normal growth' shinigami it might even takes weeks/months to use it to a comfortable level.
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I swear to god if Toshiro dies.... he just better not die. If he does just wait. I'm not accepting this. ._.
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