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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Creepy novelist, but KajiKaji. Reality into a novel... and he's at the movie set suddenly as a staff. About 3 girls falling in love with a guy in a broken house. He saw Inga for a moment and feeling a case there. Director telling the actress that they are trapped from somewhere, which not ever told. Each girl got their theories. The guy with barcode? And director dead? He killed him? The girl, as police, caught him. Wait, two of Sphere are two of three actresses? Inga and Miyu-Miyu police are outside the jail, and Inga smelled "that guy". |
tsubasaloverNov 24, 2011 9:21 AM
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| Not exactly sure what to think of the episode, half awake. To me it seemed like an augumented dream w/ forced philosophy. Too surreal for it to be reality considering transvestite's absence and the role reversals. |
mdzNov 25, 2011 10:50 PM
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| This episode... The hell just happened. Very good, in a surreal kind of way, regardless. But I'm kinda speechless at it. |
| This episode really confused me D: |
vivichi said: This episode really confused me D: Yeah it confused me to and it was quite boring. I was hoping we didnt see that lil dream world or w/e. Wanted to know more about that other crazy novelist. |
| Funny, must have mixed some shrooms in with my lunch again. |
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| More seriously, can't make anything of this episode as it stands - need to wait to see the next episode. |
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| Well... that was interesting. Yay.. some Inga at the end. |
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| Wow what a mindfuck...somehow...! I like where this anime is going! Got a nice atmosphere! Yet it's weird how they are showing a sliced up person in Un-Go but are censoring similar stuff in Mirai Nikki... o_ô And the ending is always such a pleasure to my ears x3 |
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| That reminds me of Hard-Boiled Wonderland and 1Q84... I bet it's from his unconsciousness or something. |
| Dutch anime blogger with a love for Ikuhara's antics and proper storytelling. |
| What? Like what's happening? Even though I didn't get the surroundings, this episode was really good :) |
| To be honest, I haven't enjoyed a few earlier episodes all that much but this episode was very interesting, I liked it a lot. Waiting to see how it continues. This confused me though. Yuuki seems to be leaning on something in this scene but there's... nothing.  On purpose? Animation error, pfft. Or Yuuki has superb balance. |
| Woah! epic episode! |
Mineko said: This confused me though. Yuuki seems to be leaning on something in this scene but there's... nothing. On purpose? Animation error, pfft. Or Yuuki has superb balance. I thought it was the shrooms I ate? It was the only thing that made sense in this episode... (Actually, I don't think it was a mistake.) |
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| Ahh, mindf---ed. XD I wanna watch next episode. |
| So the answer to this incredible, astonishing, almost Satoshi Kon-ish episode, was revealed after the ED. I must admit my brains worked very hard for 23 minutes there... Still, I wonder how someone like Mizushima who did a total trainwreck such as Gundam 00 can now direct a masterpiece like UN-GO ? It makes absolutely no sense (except in that he has almost complete freedom over his series now and the script is obviously far better). |
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| I just got mindfucked |
Mineko said: This confused me though. Yuuki seems to be leaning on something in this scene but there's... nothing. On purpose? Animation error, pfft. Or Yuuki has superb balance. there are actually two scenes like that, it implies he's just leaning to his correctional room's wall or something, much like he's just confined in just a room or the whole building. He is shown falling wearing the correctional facility's uniform(for patients) holding some grass w/c actually makes me wonder "WHAT IS HE HOLDING" in the surreal world since the director mentioned it, "what have you got there?" Jacut said: So the answer to this incredible, astonishing, almost Satoshi Kon-ish episode, was revealed after the ED. I must admit my brains worked very hard for 23 minutes there... Still, I wonder how someone like Mizushima who did a total trainwreck such as Gundam 00 can now direct a masterpiece like UN-GO ? It makes absolutely no sense (except in that he has almost complete freedom over his series now and the script is obviously far better). yeah, this episode is Satoshi Kon-ish indeed and awesome too i need a complete rewatch of this episode actually and Mizushima and Sho are totally admirable for their efforts so far in this anime |
AmberFebruaryNov 24, 2011 5:30 PM
| Simplistic beauty can't be appreciated by someone who looks for something grand in everything he watch. |
| Interesting episode with a nice twist at the end. Although it was a little confusing, I'm sure the next episode will clear some things up. I caught a bunch of things that I thought were either clues or just minute errors. I'm very excited for the next episode. My nomination for the most underrated anime of the season. |
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| 5 out of 5: Loved it! |
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| wait.wait.wait.wait. - WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?!I dont get this episode. |
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| By far probably the most confusing episode. But I quite liked it. Lol @ Yuuki's superior balance. |
| SOOO awesome!!! WOW. I was blown away by this episode. I was really confused about where he was in the beginning, but then I understood and it was just purely awesomeness. This show is really getting better. I don't even know what to say. It's so crazy with the whole movie being another reality and those girl's thoughts. 5/5 - Can't wait for next week! maca1989 said: Somehow, without the ending in which Inga was present, I couldn't have completely understand the episode. It's quite a mindfucker. Shinjirou was warped into a reality novel by the novelist. The setting is the movie site which is in actuality a correctional facility. There, without any idea of his own identity and just playing a role assigned by the novelist, he plays as a cameraman in a movie who tries to solve mysteries along the way. It turned out that the novelist assigned him to be the culprit as soon as he deduced the director's killer. We see in the end a brainwashed Kaishou Rie and the other detective playing as the police who would arrest Shinjirou. I caught some of this, but you were amazing to understand everything. Thanks for clearing some of my doubts up! :) One thing though, how is the movie set itself a correctional facility? I got some clues by the girls' speeches and how they were 'criminals' but I didn't know it to that extent. Could you clear that up por favor? :) |
fishergirl16Nov 24, 2011 9:59 PM
| wow what e episode |
| My theory relies on this whole episode being an illusion, or something close to it, due to Green-san's "novel is reality" thing. I believe the girl with him has some type of ability to make such things happen, as Shinjuurou was getting into an exhausted and possibly delusional state at the beginning there. I'm curious about a couple of things, though. Are the events happening in Shinjuurou's "dream" happening in reality or is he still in that room sitting with Green-san? Or perhaps parts are happening, or time is going at different rates, etc? Also, does this "dream" have any influence on the rest of the world/story or is it just an isolated case or game to test Shinjuurou's ability or something similar? Finally, this might explain this episode. Too bad it's not subbed yet. EDIT: Also, I didn't watch the ending, which by some of the responses seems to explain the episode. I'll have to go back and watch it, along with probably the whole episode, at some point. |
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| Quite the episode we have here. From what I can only guess is that the convict introduced in the previous episode is similar to Shinjuurou in which he's contracted to someone(thing) similar to Inga, but with different abilities--in this case, putting someone under a type of dream state. This is all only speculation, but Shinjuurou being in a type of correctional facility is fact. The foreshadowing, when Shinjuurou goes to talk to the director a second time, he begins to lose consciousness when he's asked what he's holding, and collapses. He's shown wearing the correctional facility's uniform. Also the points throughout the episode, where he appears to be leaning against something, though nothing is behind him during the movie set scenes is also used. Only explanations I can come up with is while he's awake in the correctional facility, he's in this day-dream like state where his view on reality is changed due to the convict from the previous episode. While he's in this alternate reality of his, while he's standing leaning like he has amazing balance, in reality, he's leaning against the wall of his correctional room. When he's in the hallway the second time with the director, and the director asks him what he's holding, and he suddenly collapses. In reality, someone working at the correctional facility asking him what he's holding, and perhaps someone gives him a shot in order to put him to sleep in order to control him. Wonder what everyone else's thoughts are on this episode. As far the series is going, I feel it's been slow up until this point, and this episode should of been done earlier. With only 11 episodes in this series, episode 7 is somewhat late to be putting the first good arc into the anime. Although it's not as bad, this sort of makes me feel like I'm watching Blood-C, where the only good episode is the last one. :P |
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AmberFebruary said: Mineko said: This confused me though. Yuuki seems to be leaning on something in this scene but there's... nothing.-- there are actually two scenes like that, it implies he's just leaning to his correctional room's wall or something, much like he's just confined in just a room or the whole building. Ah, thought this for a while too, it seems logical. Good. |
| mindfuck much heh... And his one bit of help that comes he takes off the headset and misses it. Hes likely still in the room or in the hall way or something hes certainly still in the prison either way. .. And it looks like Kazamori gets a larger role next part :) |
| what a mind-f@%k that episode was, yet somehow very enjoyable - where will it all lead - i missed inga in this episode... |
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| Shinjurou is having a mental breakdown. That seems to be the only thing that makes sense to me in this ep xp |
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| Hmm, just thinking about the girl/woman seen standing next to the crazy inmate guy early in the episode. If Inga has the power to make people tell the truth, perhaps this new character has an inverse power- the power to make people see something that is false and percieve it as truth. |
| This epsode is really mind spinning but I do know that Novelist guy and the white hair girl had something to do with all this ! |
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| Confusing but still interesting episode.. I am looking forward to the ending of this one! |
| HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH ???????????? wai- what the actual fu- yes it was a big mistake watching this episode before going to sleep :) why there isn't much of Inga in this ep :\ no me gusta |
Mineko said: AmberFebruary said: Mineko said: This confused me though. Yuuki seems to be leaning on something in this scene but there's... nothing.-- there are actually two scenes like that, it implies he's just leaning to his correctional room's wall or something, much like he's just confined in just a room or the whole building. Ah, thought this for a while too, it seems logical. Good. this, the one the director is holding actually explains it  that suggests how he leans here is like he's looking to the other side of the facility, the men and women are like separated as suggested by the image above, and the director is labeled G, standing for Guard or Warden (and notice how there are only two Fs instead of three, there should be three girls) sirwence said: mindfuck much heh... And his one bit of help that comes he takes off the headset and misses it. Hes likely still in the room or in the hall way or something hes certainly still in the prison either way. .. And it looks like Kazamori gets a larger role next part :) yep, Kazamori sure is awesome, and its GitS-ish cyberspace advent for her next week Xyphite said: Quite the episode we have here. From what I can only guess is that the convict introduced in the previous episode is similar to Shinjuurou in which he's contracted to someone(thing) similar to Inga, but with different abilities--in this case, putting someone under a type of dream state. This is all only speculation, but Shinjuurou being in a type of correctional facility is fact. The foreshadowing, when Shinjuurou goes to talk to the director a second time, he begins to lose consciousness when he's asked what he's holding, and collapses. He's shown wearing the correctional facility's uniform. Also the points throughout the episode, where he appears to be leaning against something, though nothing is behind him during the movie set scenes is also used. Only explanations I can come up with is while he's awake in the correctional facility, he's in this day-dream like state where his view on reality is changed due to the convict from the previous episode. While he's in this alternate reality of his, while he's standing leaning like he has amazing balance, in reality, he's leaning against the wall of his correctional room. When he's in the hallway the second time with the director, and the director asks him what he's holding, and he suddenly collapses. In reality, someone working at the correctional facility asking him what he's holding, and perhaps someone gives him a shot in order to put him to sleep in order to control him. Wonder what everyone else's thoughts are on this episode. As far the series is going, I feel it's been slow up until this point, and this episode should of been done earlier. With only 11 episodes in this series, episode 7 is somewhat late to be putting the first good arc into the anime. Although it's not as bad, this sort of makes me feel like I'm watching Blood-C, where the only good episode is the last one. :P this explains it. i'm not quite sure what would you like to see on this show cause it build its greatest so far steadily and smoothly, becoming better w/ each passing episode and only those who appreciates themes of war mix in w/ politics, conspiracy and philosophies would appreciate it, and that includes me, a hardcore fan of the said aspects and this series also includes the best dialogues exchanges i've seen in anime for this year, like Komamori-Shinjuurou exchange, Shimada-Shinjuurou exchange and Kaishou's "Is there only one truth?", and the latest, the way the three girls interpreted a single line from the movie script, those are worth noting for and really reminds me of Kenji's GitS: SAC and Oshii's Patlabor (also, the OST is so badass while OP/ED already is pure win!) so far, my most favorite still is Kazamori's, episode 3-4, next is Osada An's, episode 2 and Yajima's, episode 6, i just love how those stories are structured and played |
AmberFebruaryNov 25, 2011 12:11 PM
| Simplistic beauty can't be appreciated by someone who looks for something grand in everything he watch. |
| This episode really surprised me. In the good way. Though I never "lost hope" in Un-Go [lol] I was seeing it as a nice, relaxing anime after a busy day. This episode surpassed my expectations. In my opinion, it's a masterpiece compared to the other 6 episodes. I am so excited now! Can't wait too see what happens next Hekshi_Sekshi said: yes it was a big mistake watching this episode before going to sleep :) Indeed. |
| Up until now we've been seeing the contradictions and deceptions in the external world with Japan under control of an authoritarian regime after a war/terrorist incident that may or may not be real, with all information controlled by a draconian digital communication law. With this episode the contradictions and deceptions have moved to an internal world. Now we aren't sure what is true or what is being manipulated in Shinjurou's mind and perceptions. Is there a connection between these two worlds? Who is the novelist and is he really just a person imprisoned under the digital information laws? What are the connections between Shinjurou's sidekick and the novelist's sidekick? So much confusion--so many questions--this is where I hoped the series was going.... |
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| An episode with 10 seconds or less of Inga must be considered a bad episode, right? |
| this episode was a mindfuck but in the great way, i want to know what the hell is going on right now, they throw so many subtle hints at whats going on but keep you so lost, this was freaking perfect i want to know what is happening RIGHT NOW, is this real, is it a reality, is this the novelists doing, does rie's dad have anything so do with this cause that pc made him all the more suspicious I HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS that scene where shinjuro was looking at the computer and he saw rie's dad and then the computer bugged made me think that this is a virtual reality that ries dad made and that he is working with the novelist on this, cause as ive stated multiple times last week THIS GUYS GOING TO BE EVIL IM CALLING IT |
JizzyHitlerNov 26, 2011 8:34 AM
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| What the hell just happened... ...also they censored a little boy with a knife in his chest in Mirai Nikki, but the director being like..cut in half and limbless didn't have anything covering it? ...sweet mother of god. I have no idea wtf is happening right now. |
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KayChan4U said: hey man i see old men cut into 5 seperate peices all the time in kids shows, its totally G-rated...also they censored a little boy with a knife in his chest in Mirai Nikki, but the director being like..cut in half and limbless didn't have anything covering it? |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| I have a feeling the actress with the director killed him. |
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| I don't even get it. It's getting more confusing as it goes. |
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