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Yumekichi11May 26, 2011 6:59 AM
| the last fight of episode was so quick that doesnt answer some questions but overall it was ok. maybe im just upset seeing this show is going to be just 11 episodes. （￣へ￣） |
 𝓜𝔂𝓐𝓷𝓲𝓶𝓮𝓛𝓲𝓼𝓽 The inner sea of the planet. The platform of the watchtower. From the edge of paradise you shall hear my words. Your story shall be full of blessings. ━Let only those without sin pass. "Garden of Avalon"! |
| I thought it was a great episode. That fight was way more brutal than I was expecting. |
| Just liking kimimaroXmashu's moment. |
| Jeez, Yoga's getting himself pulled around all over the place this episode by different factions. Mikuni's ideals, Jennifer's, and our probably one-time only charity guy. Hopefully he'll come to his own conclusion by the end of this show. It would be lame if he just became a sheeple and did what he was told. I'd rather see him take their perspectives and create his own solution to the problem, whatever that may be. So far it's just like everyone sees this impressionable kid that got thrown into a complicated situation and they're all trying to grab him before the other. |
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| Twist: he ends up being able to communicate with every asset in the Financial District, and they all decide to stop fighting and the whole system collapses. It is discovered that the FDs across the world were responsible for natinoal debts in the first place, and since the Japan one crashed Japan sees the greatest stretch of financial growth in history. That's how I'd like it to end. |
| Dear Math, I'm not a therapist. Solve your own problems. Oh, and Algebra? Stop asking us to find your ex, she's NEVER coming back. |
| Wait..did they skip over the finishing blow? Or did I blink and miss it? lol |
-Kazu said: Wait..did they skip over the finishing blow? Or did I blink and miss it? lol i blinked too yo^ |
| Isn't mashyu awesome...or is she AWESOME!! :3 |
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| I did enjoy the episode as it further highlighted the conflicts Yoga would have to face among multiple individuals in the Financial District, as well as the fight being far more intense than usual. But not showing the match outcome was a bit of a cop-out thus making me rate it a 4. |
| wait wth? did we get jipped on the ending of that fight? the one in the beginning was short too? so we had 2 different perspectives added besides Mikuni. I miss that crazy Masakaki. still don't get why everyone is so interested in Kimimaro. whatever happened to Hanabi? still seems he will end up going against Mikuni in the end. |
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| we got trolled at the end. we sacrificed an epic fighting scene for some fan service. not sure if it was worth it.. |
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| the abduction car scene was funny and the end fight scene was pretty bloody, would of like to have seen how he won though.. for only 11 episode series a lot more has to be explained i feel, for now the show is just alright |
mystik said: still don't get why everyone is so interested in Kimimaro. Methinks is because he isn't so deeply concerned about making money as others within the Financial District which makes him an odd one amongst the current Entres as they all worry about making as much profit as possible in the Financial District, trying to destroy the District due to its effects on the real world (Jennifer) or reducing the effect of the Financial District's money circulation onto our world (Mikuni and the Starling Guild). |
| I really, really dislike that horrible CGI. So, um, what? We now have... 3 "factions" inside the District? And then suddenly, Angel appears, looking all SHAFT-ish. And wait, that's it? |
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| Daammnnn so disappointed that they skimped out on the fight like that. There are just so many different ideologies floating around in this show. And each one isn't all bright and colorful. They all have their own consequences. Mikuni's focuses so much on controlling the present using midas money that the future is at pure risk of collapsing from the constant use of it while Jennifer's would rather risk increases of change now to secure a future free of the FD. |
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| So this is more like decision-making in which principle you will follow rather than controlling the possibilities or outcomes of every deal. And I think this ep confirmed this. Kimimaro has to choose which is which. physics223 said: This series features more about ethics than it does about economics. The three factions represent different ethics, although it can be argued that there are only two, really. It's between the utilitarian ethics of Mikuni against the Kantian ethics of Sennoza. Kou is caught in between them. He has to choose, and he has to act. The show is a battle of ethics in a backdrop of economics. Got a nice read there. =) |
Yumekichi11 said: He does have reason to be fighting for the kids and causes but man Kimimaro got pawned! Damn it! I'm pretty sure Kimimaro won that since: 1. Sennoza lost some of his staff 2. He said Kimimaro landed a second mezzoflation 3. He said that he had to depend on charity and campaigns now and that he wouldn't depend on Midas Money at that point 4. They used a dark tone when talking about the pictures after the battle |
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| Random fanservice is random. I feel a bit trolled there. Wished we saw how that fight went. But damn, that was a brutal beating of Mashyu. And I like all those talks of the people who approached Yoga, especially Mikuni's. Wish Yoga would man up a bit and make up his mind though with all those people influencing him. Still, this show is awesome and I want to see how this ends up. I like how Mashyu doesn't know what a date means. |
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| Wow, that was an extremely poorly put together episode. It has been a decent series so far (aside from the terrible CG parts), but this episode was really rushed and was put together sloppily. All the dialog was too fast paced, and all crammed in. They tried to put way to much into one episode. That was not a good episode. 1/5 |
mokuzu-May 20, 2011 1:43 AM
thechensta said: No I mean Kimimaro got pawned in that he suffered major trauma to the major wounds of his asset. Yeah he did win after he most likely went berserk but why the heck they did not show it is most likely to save it for a flashback. He for sure went berserk. I should have been more precise over the pawning of Mashu/trauma result.Yumekichi11 said: He does have reason to be fighting for the kids and causes but man Kimimaro got pawned! Damn it! I'm pretty sure Kimimaro won that since: 1. Sennoza lost some of his staff 2. He said Kimimaro landed a second mezzoflation 3. He said that he had to depend on charity and campaigns now and that he wouldn't depend on Midas Money at that point 4. They used a dark tone when talking about the pictures after the battle |
| Why the hell didn't they include the last part of the fight? |
OShoranO said: Why the hell didn't they include the last part of the fight? Was probably too gory. |
| They probably didn't show the rest of the fight because this isn't a battle show. It's all about the responsibilities one gets when using Midas Money and the ethics of of how you use it. So in the last fight the point was Kimimaro's choice after being presented with the different factions and ideals within the city. |
| Ara ara. |
| (I just realised I'm perfectly fine with fanservice as long as it doesn't involve any loli girls.) That aside, the episode was rather nice - though slightly rushed with all that flooding dialogue. I actually liked it when the last scenes of the battle were cut off, since it managed to surprise me (= keep things a bit more interesting). The CG is still pretty horrible. |
| At the last fight scene I was like, "Go Yoga! Show that charity boy your true strength". Then I just blinked then... NOTHING. -__- I would've really wanted to see how the fight finished. Oh well. Though the fanservices and the taxi part were funny. XD |
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DoctorDoom said: So he just showed he joins in more Mikuni's ideas but did you notice that at the end he was shocked at the answer Kou replied to him in regards to the kids pics. Wonder if that itself may be a foreshadow that Mikuni's ideas are not that great. Jennifer siding may seem probable.They probably didn't show the rest of the fight because this isn't a battle show. It's all about the responsibilities one gets when using Midas Money and the ethics of of how you use it. So in the last fight the point was Kimimaro's choice after being presented with the different factions and ideals within the city. I want to see some ecchi of Kou x Jennifer. That would seal the fate of Kimimaro against Mikuni. |
| noitaminA headquarters "Oh god this Sennoza vs Kimimaro fight is going to be the most epic shit ever -E-toooooo... -What ? -We don't have enough money to animate the fight... -F*** ! Why didn't you tell me that ? -Anyway I found a great alternative ! -What is it ? -FORCED MELODRAMA !" |
| Kimimaro won but i want to see how he won |
| I did like the episode overall ... Myshu took a BRUTAL beating there, even losing an arm. But I really wanted to see how the One-Armed Succubus took down an as-yet-untouched Giant Motherfucking ANGEL, even screwing the rules and using a double Mezzoflation (whatever that means ... Myshu could've even busted out a new move for all we know, animators didn't show it). I'm hoping they'll at least show the final attack(s) next week, I wanna know why his double-Mezzo was so effective @_@ And did our Prince go bankrupt? Kimimaro must've pWned the hell out of him during that missing 30 seconds or so. With Mezzo too, instead of going for Directs like he usually does. The two probably did go berserk, then, and hammered their opponent with everything they had to try and survive rather than just win by a narrow margin. |
| Woah, what a brutal battle at the end xD they could show ending of it :S |
| lightness vs. darkness Nani mo kamo wo hoshigatteita Mayoeru mono no chikai Mada miru sekai o tsukuridasu koto Kuchi hateteiku |
| I really wanted to see that battle and I'm curious as to what happened. Not only that, yet I wanted to see the fight that started at the end of last weeks episode. :( I hope this series doesn't become known for cutting corners. |
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| Cut the battle, what a cop out. I am disappoint. |
| Didn't we miss a fight between the previous episode and this episode? I don't like irresponsible and abrupt development like this. However this episode is far better than the previous one, because it focused on mental rather than physical. No battle sequence? No problem. Kimimaro, Mikuni and the beautiful opponent showed their stand points clearly and carried out their belief. In the last battle of this episode, Mashu lost a lot of her blood and... her arm. Kimimaro said "More than the future or anything, I'm most afraid of losing what's close to me." Quite right. We may not be able to save the world, but we should try to save the loved ones first of all. This kind of concise and compact things would be boundary that we can recognize. |
| She managed to pull of a double mezzoflation with only one arm. And then, what was the enemy doing during that time? Lazing around? |
'Everything is impossible until proven possible.' - Me |
Dusk252 said: Oh right, there was even fanservice in this episode. I hardly even noticed. ┐(￣ー￣)┌Mineko said: Yeah, same thing here. It's kinda wired but even though I usually absolutely hate fanservice, it didn't bother me at all in this episode.(I just realised I'm perfectly fine with fanservice as long as it doesn't involve any loli girls.) |
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| I was wondering... what will happen if Kimimaro were to accept not to deal? he wouldnt win and wouldnt lose right? Sennoza will pay for half of the money Kimimaro will lose right... but will there any effect on the reality world? |
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| Let's totally judge quality of the episode by saying it was a cop out because it skipped two fire explosion sequences that totally haven't been done before. Where's my amazing action scene, damn it? I'm going back to my Dragon Ball Z and Katanagatari Episode 4 preview in a fit of rage. |
| I really liked that charity guy - he should have won. It was egoistic of Kimimaro not to think of the future of al thel children and just win for his own sake. |
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| Direction is outstandingly always in phase with the script and themes in this series. And I also like it that we didn't see how Kimimaro won his deal (without using his big attack too, he only used two mezzoflations), it will be even better when we actually enjoy the big showdown between him and Mikuni. Oh and once again all the characters were really fantastic, especially Msyu and Kimimaro - what a great main character he does -. I look forward to him finally finding his path and goal in the financial district. LordMarluxia said: Let's totally judge quality of the episode by saying it was a cop out because it skipped two fire explosion sequences that totally haven't been done before. Where's my amazing action scene, damn it? I'm going back to my Dragon Ball Z and Katanagatari Episode 4 preview in a fit of rage. That made me laugh ! A lot of people are watching this series for strange reasons honestly if they're pissed by the lack of action scenes. First of all, it's not an action series, then there's only 11 episodes to cram A LOT of developments and scenario (much more than most 26-episodes series) so obviously Nakamura won't waste it on stupid fighting sequences slowing down its pace (also, they probably don't have the budget for these so...), and finally, the action sequences are only there as a metaphor for economic war so we don't actually need to witness all of them, knowing the result is sufficient in the end, especially with the level of direction involved. |
JacutMay 20, 2011 9:56 AM
 In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same. |
| I was crying for Mashu during that fight with Sennoza. Yoga really cares about his asset. |
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| This episode was so damned rushed. Still good nonetheless |
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| This was a poorly executed episode. Everything was so rushed and crammed that I don't think there was ever a pause between any of the dialogue. One could argue that it's all to emulate the feeling of Yoga getting dragged around by everyone and having no control over the situation--but it's not. It's just crappy execution. And now that I see that C is only set for 11 episodes, I'm disappointed. More than likely, the rest of the series is going to be a rush job. |
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| the hell? They skipped the whole frikkin' fight! This blows! >.< Other than that a great episode. Many developments and Kimimaro won another fight, even though we didn't see it. Some CGI scenes were very apparent and ugly this time around though. Especially the part where he gets into the van. Looking forward to next week! |
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