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Dec 20, 2010 3:59 PM
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THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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..Dear Lord..

Theres no winning against her, is there?

"Bad End - Kazuki"
Dec 21, 2010 7:42 AM
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So fucking OP. Nerf plz.

Credit to WingZero619 from Animesuki!!
Dec 21, 2010 7:42 PM
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This is the first time I feel helpless at a horror... I mean I really feel that there's no way to escape from the powerful spiral of pan and suffering from the damned Lolita girl... whatever her name or who she is... Really... She's like the devil... but we never know... no one said something about that... We don't really know what really happened to the real Remina.... was it the devil... what the fuck turned her into what she is now... I was so... surprised that Keiichi was the doc! Dammit no wonder why that stupid stuffed bunny toy spilled so much blood when she washed it in Kazuki's appartment bathroom sink... Gross

And just when we thought someone was going to stop Remina... Kazuki mistook the hit and killed the wrong person... so she was a neighbour? *blinks* ah okay... still... dammit... poor Kazuki... that finally broke him and made him go insane... well who wouldn't get so freaked out after killing someone with the pencil and see that the sis was still around nagging and messing you around.... Che a chainsaw... such a horrible death... me wonders how someone determined that he committed suicide... there's no way there's possibilities to frame a suicide... so... Lesee... 4 bodies found... then it's Kazuki's parents bodies. the neighbour body and Kazuki body found there.... Plus we never knew what happened to Kazuki's friends.... they're prolly death in the Hospital... SO is Hikari's body... dang it... Poor people... sucks there's no way to escape from her

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Dec 22, 2010 10:50 PM
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I just dont wanna think about this manga anymore, this is one manga I didnt wanna read but kept reading :P
Dec 23, 2010 7:10 PM
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Damn, this really is something. Also, "Final chapter"? So rest up to chap 15 is a side story?
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Dec 23, 2010 11:51 PM
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BigPoke said:
I just dont wanna think about this manga anymore, this is one manga I didnt wanna read but kept reading :P


I second that! Somehow I just couldn't stop even though it grossed me out completely.
Jan 13, 2011 3:24 PM
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i gave this a 9/10.
it was THIS close to a 'masterpiece' imo, and i would have given in a 10/10 if the mangaka actually took time to explain a lil about wtf the lolita was. i mean its clear she's a spirit (well, more like a demon), but it'd been nice had we some real knowledge of her in the manga.
though bitching aside.. still a great chapter, twisted ending, amazing manga, and one my favorites.
Jan 23, 2011 10:01 AM
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wow...I don't know what else to say about the ending @_@ speechless...
Feb 4, 2011 4:15 AM
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They did say "Twisted death", an ending like this was only to be expected.
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Feb 17, 2011 7:28 AM

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Fuck. O_o
That was just...wow..

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This is the first time I feel helpless at a horror... I mean I really feel that there's no way to escape from the powerful spiral of pan and suffering from the damned Lolita girl... whatever her name or who she is... Really... She's like the devil... but we never know... no one said something about that... We don't really know what really happened to the real Remina.... was it the devil... what the fuck turned her into what she is now... I was so... surprised that Keiichi was the doc! Dammit no wonder why that stupid stuffed bunny toy spilled so much blood when she washed it in Kazuki's appartment bathroom sink... Gross

And just when we thought someone was going to stop Remina... Kazuki mistook the hit and killed the wrong person... so she was a neighbour? *blinks* ah okay... still... dammit... poor Kazuki... that finally broke him and made him go insane... well who wouldn't get so freaked out after killing someone with the pencil and see that the sis was still around nagging and messing you around.... Che a chainsaw... such a horrible death... me wonders how someone determined that he committed suicide... there's no way there's possibilities to frame a suicide... so... Lesee... 4 bodies found... then it's Kazuki's parents bodies. the neighbour body and Kazuki body found there.... Plus we never knew what happened to Kazuki's friends.... they're prolly death in the Hospital... SO is Hikari's body... dang it... Poor people... sucks there's no way to escape from her

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This. Pretty much.

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Wow, okay. That was so depressing. Glad it wasn't a movie cause I'd be really freaked out xD
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Though I think shit-flinging should also have standards - no personal, no behind the scenes.
Jun 5, 2011 8:14 AM

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I really wish we could have found out exactly what she was.... It was great, twisted ending, fitting of the rest of this twisted series, but still. Now that we know she's probably assumed at least two - probably many more - identities, I would like to know her _original_ identity. If she has one. Or if she's a demon or monster or something, I would like to know... I suspect so, no human could be so crazy or evil.

*sigh* What a horrific series. It was pretty good, but ohhh sooo disturbing.
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I liked it! Pretty good ending even though it didn't really end this whole Lolita thing... There are some questions left without answer and i really want more...
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Jun 8, 2011 4:33 AM
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I am now offically creeped out o _ o

Really feel sorry for the guy at the end.....

(I'd totally watch this again if it was a movie though :D)
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Jul 1, 2011 11:50 AM

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Really enjoyed it, even though the ending didn't answer everything.

Would have been cool if they made this into an OVA.
Jul 25, 2011 6:23 AM

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It was a really good horror manga although some thing really annoyed me. For example how in the world could that fucking bitchass Lolita take someones identity?! Don't they have ID's in Nippon? I mean the fugly Lolita takes the identity of Remina. The police and everyone else believes she's Remina, she's even put in a hospital. Why the fuck is she able to take someone's identity?! Is that some kind of ability of hers or what? Is she a demon that can take the identity of other people? What is she? Why don't you get to know what she is, why she does what she does and who she is?

Also it annoys me that you don't get to see the death of Kazuki. How can the police even suspect suicide? Didn't they see all of his damages, don't the remember he was at the police to report someone who was stalking him? Even his sister was there but still they didn't do anything? What about fingerprints and stuff like that?

An explanation about who the fuck or what the fuck she is would be appreciated. I think the things you got to know from the diary is what really happened to the Lolita when she was little and that she killed her whole family and then herself and became some kind of ghost or whatever.
Sep 19, 2011 6:22 PM

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ROTFL wow.....she's uber OP
Everyone in this manga was screwed from the start XD
Sep 23, 2011 5:55 PM

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This will keep happening over and over again. o:

So it is impossible to stop her from killing you, and the earlier the person dies, the less twisted their death become. In the end, she is still human and and can die.

Remember never talk to stranger!

Anyway good series, very spooky and creepy...
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Oct 28, 2011 12:17 PM

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well they say the only thing that you can escape being killed by her is not to answer her question... but lol i think she can read mind like when kazuki answered only by is mind
Oct 31, 2011 8:27 PM

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it wasn't scary but it was creepy o.o
Dec 20, 2011 10:33 PM

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chainsaw...that is all
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Dec 23, 2011 6:58 PM
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Rofl, how could it be framed as suicide? Didn't she stuffed the dude's organs in the doll?
Jan 15, 2012 2:14 PM
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That stab in the ankle sure does hurt...

I'm not sure what to say about the manga, it's just... wow!

8/10
Jan 16, 2012 7:44 PM

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I think at the end of the manga, the page where we got to saw her crossing the road, she looked pretty cute there. As in her clothes weren't torn and dirty and stuff.

It was a good manga. I wished they explained who she was though. Like if she actually did have a back story, or she is just some random crazy mental psychotic freak :D


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Mar 10, 2012 3:07 AM

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And the moral of the story is.
Don't talk to strangers.
Mar 17, 2012 7:41 PM

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I love how the story is twisted.
Mar 31, 2012 11:43 PM

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Nice twisted ending. Too bad she didn't get killed and tortured though.
May 29, 2012 10:18 PM

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Rofl, how could it be framed as suicide? Didn't she stuffed the dude's organs in the doll?

I'm also wondering how she passed off as the daughter of the other family she murdered. I guess it's in her repertoire of demon trickery that allows her to crawl on ceilings and swing a sledgehammer with twig-limbs.
Jun 12, 2012 12:45 PM

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And the moral of the story is.
Don't talk to strangers.


I find it interesting that there is no way to correctly answer her.

The thing is, if she says "I don't need a brother like you," for a negative answer and kills that person, would not answering her be just as rude? She should kill them regardless.

Also, making those killings look like suicide... either she's really good at covering up injuries or the CSI people are really lazy.

Despite this, really good manga... it's hard to find something where everyone dies
Jul 12, 2012 5:11 AM

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Somehow I got feeling that she put that guy head inside that doll :D

I think Ibitsu was my first really most wicked and insane manga I've read so far.
I actually was little scared on school chapter (... or I just enjoyed that...) :P

Somehow I saw Remina very cute <3


5/5

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Aug 11, 2012 7:57 PM

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So everything about her "past" was false, huh? She takes the name of the last little sister she kills, and the last "big brother" to "accept" her becomes her new companion. I kind of expected him not to survive after everyone around him was dying.

A shame we didn't find out just who and what she was, though. It's like she's the embodiment of a malicious curse. More likely a demon than a ghost. If she knew everything about her victims like that, then nobody stood a chance at escaping from her.
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So everything about her "past" was false, huh? She takes the name of the last little sister she kills, and the last "big brother" to "accept" her becomes her new companion. I kind of expected him not to survive after everyone around him was dying.

A shame we didn't find out just who and what she was, though. It's like she's the embodiment of a malicious curse. More likely a demon than a ghost. If she knew everything about her victims like that, then nobody stood a chance at escaping from her.


It's not to say it's "false" necessarily, it's just that it was partially incorrect. I'm assuming that she's really a demon or spirit of some sort, and that was just the previous family. Instead of her brother hurting her and killing her parents, it was really her doing it all.

How I see that is that the lolita had first stalked the boy, "her brother," She then killed his sister named Remina Kanbe, and then took that identity. She then killed the remainder of the family while her "brother" hid in the closet until he then died. Then her "brother" had become the stuffed anime before the doctor.

In other words, there was absolutely nothing depicting how it all began, thus implying all the more so that she isn't human.
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It really did give the spine some chills at some points. But I'm really glad that it didn't end happily, I don't know how that would look. This more 'mysterious' ending if you may, suits it really well. That the legend lives on and on. It gives the story a more horror feeling. Anyways it's a really good manga in my opinion. One of my favourites so far! And I just can't get it how the policemen see it as a suicide...

5/5
Sep 21, 2012 1:48 AM

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I feel like it ended before it should have. I would have really liked more of an explanation.
Sep 25, 2012 6:34 PM

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I swear when I read this, I make sure there's people near me. It scared the heck out of me. Especially how she's like immortal. I didn't like how it ended though. Kind of unfinish like the post above mentioned.

P.S. My view of lolita has totally changed.
Dec 5, 2012 9:44 PM

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What a twisted ending! I was quite surprised by the huge twist! Good manga.... Indeed it was horrifying.
Jan 24, 2013 3:30 PM

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Loved this manga :-). Hmmm, on one hand I wanna know more answers but on the other hand, not knowing can make it more creepy and leaves it open for speculation on what in the name of god the lolita actually is.
Apr 13, 2013 4:49 AM

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Seriously horrifying; while I was reading I wanted to take breaks between chapters but it was too gripping, and now I'm mentally exhausted... I like how they left her identity ambiguous, there's really no way anybody is ever going to have a happy ending in there...
May 5, 2013 9:06 AM

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Well, some creepy moments, some gore. Noting much
6 or 7 overall scrore I guess
May 8, 2013 12:00 AM

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Although predictable, I actually kinda like the ending. A dark ending of twisted horror is fitting to this manga without some Desu Ex Machina bullshit. Anyways, the legend was true after all huh? :P
May 30, 2013 11:21 PM

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Wow, it seems a lot of people liked this manga but for me it was like an adaptation of a cheap horror movie.
Oct 8, 2013 6:47 PM

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I kind of wonder how the doll doesn't get soggy...and when she washed it at his house a bunch of blood came out, right? how is there still some in there? This manga got freaking awesome at the end, but I gave it a 7 because the first 7 chapters were pretty boring for me. It also wasn't as messed off as I thought it would be so I was kinda disappointed.
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I didn't like Uzumaki, but I liked this manga.
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Feb 23, 2014 9:52 PM

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This was my first horror manga that I ever read..... I won't sleep tonight.
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Apr 18, 2014 1:42 PM
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I remember reading this work roughly three years ago. And back then I already greatly enjoyed it. Having that in mind, I went and re-read the whole series earlier today, and what do you know, it's still as good as I remembered. A graphic, sadistic, and refreshing piece of fiction.
Wouldn't it be great if this series got an anime adaption? A single 30-minute-OVA would do the job already if done right.
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Apr 19, 2014 2:38 AM

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well it was fucked up, the doll with the human flesh in it... oh god, that gave me creeps! but i really like how it ends, it's so lame that the protagonist (almostly) survives everytime.

Apr 20, 2014 6:06 AM

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Well, I have learned something important from this all and that is to never talk to strange lolita girls

Jun 23, 2014 2:28 PM

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O_o WTF!
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Jul 21, 2014 5:33 PM
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Creepy and gripping manga, good stuff.
Oct 20, 2014 8:12 AM
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Hahaha, creepy. My brother (who also likes manga) always goes on about how he wished he had a little sister. Maybe if i recommend this one to him I'll cure him of his obsession and make him appreciate his brother a bit more.

Also think they could make a pretty decent live action adaption of this. Horror movies cover the satanic daughter/ doll angle quite a bit, but I haven't heard of one about a little sister before.
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Well... That was a new experience. JEEZ THAT IS ONE dangerous lolita
Creepy manga overall 7/10

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