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Nov 29, 2010 8:59 AM
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Poor Agemaki... Hanadate & Zakuro...

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Nov 29, 2010 11:26 AM
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I knew it! I knew that Hanadate was not what he seemed, he just looks why too shifty and is too good to be true in my opinion. Also I feel bad for Agemaki I can tell he was a bit jealous at Hanadate's confession. Ugh Riken is so clueless sometimes but I love it! I hope he and Susukihotaru kiss before the show ends ^^
Nov 29, 2010 11:35 AM
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Yeah i am too feel sorry for Agemaki.
Its just so cruel...
But Zakuro was so cute with milk and rest.

And i am more and more interested about Ganryuu relationship with twins.
Even if they just like one person its hard to think about love like this.
Nov 29, 2010 11:56 AM
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Why would you do that Zakuro??

Well at least it actually showed how she feels about Kei. She didn't want to hear something he wouldn't mean from his heart. But in the end it still hurt Kei though. A very good episode. Well Zakuro was equally hurt, as she replied to Hanadate's fake confession. She must have felt awful when Kei looked away. T_T

I was shocked when Susukihotaru refused to take that drink from Riken. But quickly I realized how awful it must have been for her to show her weakness to Riken and only to find out Riken was clueless. T_T

There was no doubt that Hanadate was the bad guy in the end. It was easy to tell from the OP with the masked guy.

Anyways:

Zakuro blushing when deciding to give milk yet another try. +1
Bonbori, Hoozuki and the Youjin-trio forcing everyone to get involved in Kokkuri-san. +1
The question on whom Kei is going out with. And involving both Zakuro and Suskihotaru. Those five were so mean. :P. +1

When they tried to relate Kei with Susukihotaru, Susukihotaru just gave it away by saying, "There's no way it's possible, Riken-sama". +1
Followed by "Just what am I saying?!" +2
Followed by Riken patting Susukihotaru's head. OMG. so much love +3

Then changing the question from "whom he's going out with" to "whom does he love" and the fox looking towards Zakuro. +1

Susukihotaru and Riken moments on that bridge at sunset. So much love. She practically said she doesn't understand how Riken feels, whether he considers her as a friend, an imouto or a koibito. +1

But what Riken did was awful. Damn he is so dense. Didn't expect that from him. She is definitely hurt. T_T. But still, the refuse to take the drink showed a lovable side of Suskihotaru. +1

Bonbori and Hoozuki's view towards three people in love was so funny that I still think they are amazingly lovable. Not to mention both of them feeding Hanakiri at the beginning of the episode. +1

Zakuro not allowing Kei to say what he might not mean from his heart shows how much she wants to hear it if he says it from his heart and not as a fake confession. That was indeed full of love. but it all took the turn for the worst since she had to go along with Hanadate's lies. T_T. +1


Now, note this:

Handate teaming up with Zakuro and Kei. -1
Why the hell would he? Wouldn't it make more sense if he went with either Bonbori or Hoozuki, if it was meant to be in-pairs? (The only minus in the entire anime from me thus far.)

9/10. Great episode yet again.
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Nov 29, 2010 11:59 AM
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Poor Agemaki :(
it's pretty clear how he feels about Zakuro, but for sure she feels something more than just friendship towards him.
she "expressed" it during the whole ep u_u [love them]

don't know why, but i was expecting "the confession" from Riken/Hotaru :/ too bad, they're so cute lol
really... i'd have loved it xD and Hotaru reacted that way becaaaause... she wanted Riken to express his feelings and not to buy her a cold drink? *LOL*

Ganryuu is defenently the least relevant character in this anime, sorry to say :(
he's so lucky to be in couple with the lovely twins.. waiting for him to do something, idk
And Hanadate... i was already thinking about him as the one with the mask in the OP, well now it's just obvious, right? :O
and he's having an affair with the black widow u_u tsk

loving this anime more and more, can't wait for next ep >_< the preview looks amazing *.*

EP: 9/10
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Nov 29, 2010 12:53 PM
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So, does anyone know if this is going to be 12 ep show or what? I'd prefer "full" one...

yet another great ep. It's hard to believe this is seinen and not shoujo
Nov 29, 2010 1:01 PM
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So, does anyone know if this is going to be 12 ep show or what? I'd prefer "full" one...
yet another great ep. It's hard to believe this is seinen and not shoujo


I'm afraid the show will only exist of 13 episodes.. as I checked the DVD releases and they list an 'alternative ending/finale' on the 6th volume containing the 12th and 13th episode..

Hm.. I truly liked this show from the start, I still do, it has an incredible charm to it, but it's always a bit sad to see when a story like this will never take it to 'the next level', how per example, Hanadate, the seemingly 'perfect and handsome guy, will always end up being the bad guy. If only 'shoujo' shows could refrain from doing that..
Nov 29, 2010 1:29 PM
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I just knew from the beginning,,,all chara who act like he think he is really cool,,,must be shitty chara,,,and another prove....
Nov 29, 2010 1:42 PM
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Shocking but it had to be done to let that dragon avatar pass on to the next realm even at Agemaki's expense.

I just seen the number of volumes and only 6 volumes doesn't really do this anime justice.


Nov 29, 2010 1:46 PM

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Wow, that was better then I was expecting. I'm glad this series is turning out to be such a pleasant surprise!
Nov 29, 2010 2:04 PM

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Those tree gossip lady's are so annoying why are thy meddling with other peoples affairs?
Zakuro was kind of cute tho trying to hide her feelings and then spiting out her feelings for the lieutenant and leaving Agemaki heart broken.
The lieutenant is also hiding something thing is what is he hiding.
Nov 29, 2010 2:12 PM

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not gonna lie..i noticed it was hanadate in the op after the first time he appeared. predictable end to this ep.
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Nov 29, 2010 2:14 PM

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Sigh... this series is becoming disappointingly ordinary. There seemed to be a lot of potential at first, but it is just becoming yet-another magic girl series, but with no "magic" in the storytelling. This is pure paint-by-numbers plotting.
Nov 29, 2010 2:19 PM

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Well it was pretty obvious that Hanadate is the man behind the mask.
Poor Agemaki, he couldn't confess to Zakuro because she was too afraid to find out what he thinks about her. Neverthless, another good episode.
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Nov 29, 2010 2:50 PM

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I really like this series I don't often comment in these episode threads though because everyone else says what I think of saying so theirs no point... but I was kind of expecting something like that with lieutenant Hanadate;


Not a question about this episode specially- however, I was wondering why the anime info says that the number of episodes are unknown but it has it listed as ending on Dec 28th 2010.... anyone know why? I've only been watching anime as-it-airs in Japan for about 3 or so seasons so I'm still not into how they announce the anime and such.
Nov 29, 2010 2:58 PM

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So Hanadate finally lives up to his look. Because he always seemed wrong. But maybe it's something completly else? We will see...
Nov 29, 2010 3:11 PM

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Not a question about this episode specially- however, I was wondering why the anime info says that the number of episodes are unknown but it has it listed as ending on Dec 28th 2010.... anyone know why? I've only been watching anime as-it-airs in Japan for about 3 or so seasons so I'm still not into how they announce the anime and such.


Episode titles are almost always disclosed based one a quarter of a year span (3 months) of most of the TV shows in Japan and Korea. They refer to it as 1Q, 2Q, 3Q, 4Q etc. A 1Q (often known as a half season) show means it will air for three months, and so on. But even if a show is 2Q (often known as a full season) or 3Q, the episode titles are only disclosed based on the running quarter, and further episode titles are added as it enters the new quarter.

Further information will be, Fall season (Oct-Dec) is known as Q1
Winter season (Jan-Mar) is known as Q2
Spring season (Apr-Jun) is known as Q3
and Summer season (Jul-Sep) is known as Q4.

Also, the TV shows yearly calender starts from Fall season and most of the TV shows (regardless of being anime, doroma, reality show) with greater budgets are aired (rather I would say, are alloted with first airing season) in Fall season. So whatever you are watching now, are probably the best shows that will get to see until next fall. Obviously there are exceptions as well, but not many (This does not include sequels of TV shows.)

As for the anime itself, I think this anime will have 13 episodes and will end right there. Of course, it will have to let the ongoing manga some breathing space, and if the anime sells good DVD, merchandise and/or the manga maintains its share of popularity, it will have a season 2 sometime in the future.
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Nov 29, 2010 3:56 PM
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Most developments were expected but still, the confession scene was pretty awesome. This series is really well directed and production values almost never drop too. A good show.

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Nov 29, 2010 4:14 PM

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Is it even possible for there to be an episode of this show that I don't like? Every single time I'm smiling through the whole thing. Hm, I can't wait for next week to come~

I didn't mind Hanadate before, but if he's with the Black Widow, then he's going to lose some major points - especially if he's the kind of guy I think he might be.

Susukihotoru's "What am I saying?" in this episode was just priceless. And all the moments with Zakuro and Agemaki were amazing, too. I wonder how they'll handle Ganryu's relationship with the twins? The only other comparison I can think of it the twins from OHHC, and in that one only one of the two twins ended up truly falling in love with the girl. Oh well, it will be interesting.
Nov 29, 2010 4:35 PM

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Dammit! I would've never guessed that Riken would be so damn clueless! Poor Suskihotaru...
I should have known that Hanadate was the man behind the mask, but it went right over my head. I guess his plan is to try to woo Zakuro so that the Black Widow can go forward with her plans. I'm still not exactly sure what those may be.
Nov 29, 2010 4:53 PM
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it went fine until the end of the episode.
oh poor agemaki ^^

love the scene between riken and susukihotaru, though riken was too clueless :D

anyway, so there are 3 or 4 episodes left, right?
Nov 29, 2010 4:54 PM

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oh wow...the obvious was finally revealed.

Nov 29, 2010 6:50 PM

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Riken's still awesome, but his cluelessness... Such an easy mood to read, too.
And I never liked Hanadate; he was always suspicious and I was sure he was just toying with Zakuro. HE'S A PRETENTIOUS DOUCHE!
Nov 29, 2010 7:04 PM
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Kept me smiling through out the whole episode :)

Though one negative thing I had with this episode was how Riken turned out to be so clueless..
Nov 29, 2010 7:21 PM

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Those tree gossip lady's are so annoying why are thy meddling with other peoples affairs?
Zakuro was kind of cute tho trying to hide her feelings and then spiting out her feelings for the lieutenant and leaving Agemaki heart broken.
The lieutenant is also hiding something thing is what is he hiding.


was obvious who he was from the OP and seeing him once lol


Nice fake confession from the guy I deemed an antagonist the second I saw him in the second episode.

I may be alone but I really didnt find myself enjoying this episode as much as the previous ones. the Next several I suspect I will -

Also felt bad for Hotaru >.<

Zakuro lost a point for failing to notice what I did from the start . and likely something Kei suspects behind the jealousy too. Handate isnt really a good man

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I knew it! I knew that Hanadate was not what he seemed, he just looks why too shifty and is too good to be true in my opinion. Also I feel bad for Agemaki I can tell he was a bit jealous at Hanadate's confession. Ugh Riken is so clueless sometimes but I love it! I hope he and Susukihotaru kiss before the show ends ^^

Yes, I must agree. He just seemed to iffy since he had that dance with the black widow it looked like he was plotting something. Anyways, poor Agemaki :'( I hope Sakuro can be honest about her feelings.
Ah, I can't believe Riken was so clueless: "drink this, your face is flushed" EHH? I'm up for the kiss too. Go Susukihotaru-chan.
Nov 29, 2010 8:25 PM
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.... I thought the question was " who does Agemaki Love."

not "show me what love is..."

damnit

they messed up in this episode

can't even get their story line straight...
Nov 29, 2010 8:51 PM
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Yeah a nice episode to fire up their relationship =).. But yeah this episode really did hurt Agemaki I feel so sorry for him T_T.. Hoping Zakuro will realize how did she hurt Agemaki so bad in the next episode...

Good thing Hanadate didn't steal a kiss or else this anime will burst down to hell XD...
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and 13 episodes it will be. Hoping that the animators stick with the manga and stop where it actually is supposed to end, just like other good shows. (e.g nana, skip beat, honey and clover, nodame cantabile, aria, spice and wolf, hajime no ippo, kimi ni todoke, hayate no gotoku, gintama, oofuri etc.) so you always have this chance to make sequels without wasting a show with hurr-hurr. I hate it when they change the story completely and end it like the own it, not to mention, ruining the entire show.

Aaa-ah~ I will be sad when Zakuro ends, not to mention Kuragehime will end in the same week, so it will be kinda sad to see two good shows ending after just a 3 months run :/
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and 13 episodes it will be. Hoping that the animators stick with the manga and stop where it actually is supposed to end, just like other good shows. (e.g nana, skip beat, honey and clover, nodame cantabile, aria, spice and wolf, hajime no ippo, kimi ni todoke, hayate no gotoku, gintama, oofuri etc.) so you always have this chance to make sequels without wasting a show with hurr-hurr. I hate it when they change the story completely and end it like the own it, not to mention, ruining the entire show.

Aaa-ah~ I will be sad when Zakuro ends, not to mention Kuragehime will end in the same week, so it will be kinda sad to see two good shows ending after just a 3 months run :/


Lame! 13 eps?! Ugh. This to me is the GEM of the series. I simply adore this show... it's unique and entertaining. Bishounen, romance, tsundere, spirits, perverted lilttle rabbit thing = win!! <3 <3

Poor Agemaki this ep.... ;-;
Nov 29, 2010 10:45 PM

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So Hanadate is confirmed to be what everyone expected. He was suspicious from the very beginning with how he singled out Zakuro from the start as well as how we carried himself. That staged confession and subsequent lie he told Zakuro was tough to watch and listen to. Felt so bad for Agemaki and even Zakuro as I think neither really wanted to hear that. I think at best, Zakuro has a tiny crush on Hanadate since he comes across as cool and nice. Rather trivial compared to her feelings for Agemaki. And man, those three gossipy busybodies need to get a life. Couldn't stand them in this episode.
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Aaa-ah~ I will be sad when Zakuro ends, not to mention Kuragehime will end in the same week, so it will be kinda sad to see two good shows ending after just a 3 months run :/


Same here, Kuragehime and Zakuro are the only 2 shows I am really into this season so the season is probably going to be completely over for me when they end.

Also I hope in the next episode that Riken makes it up to Susukihotaru, although I have a feeling that they will make up/get together quite soon just because the show is almost over and they are the most obvious pair...I just don't know if we'll have time to have Zakuro and Agemaki actually get together realistically (in a non-rushed fashion) in several more episodes. Even though their feelings for one another are quite clear.
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Hotaru~<3

She's too damn cute. I want every episode to just follow her. Zakuro can have cameo's just for the tsunderstorm.
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oh wow...the obvious was finally revealed.



never trust ppl with pretty faces :P
Nov 30, 2010 4:28 AM
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I knew Handate was the man with the mask from ep 1 in the opening...[ pretty obvious], despite knowing how things would turn [ Zakuro is infatuated with the mysterious-presumably bad guy-and somehow seems to not realize the feelings of the good guy] this episode was really well done...I really felt sorry for Agemaki ; ; [ still hoping for a kiss from them and Riken+Susukihotaru though i doubt it]
Nov 30, 2010 4:33 AM

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Zakuro, you stupid, stupid girl. Why did she have to say that? Why can't she just be true to her feelings? This better end with a real confession between those two and not some half-ass reconciliation or else I am really going to get angry. Oh well, here's for hoping they don't screw it up.
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I laughed at first on Agemaki when the Kokkuri spirit appeared, but then a felt so sorry for him T_T, baka Zakuro...but for same reason I like Hanadate :)
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Inarius said:
oh wow...the obvious was finally revealed.


never trust ppl with pretty faces :P


We all knew that Hanadate was evil from the beginning, there were red flags about this throughout 1/4 of the anime.
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The Kokkuri just floats around not harming anything, Zakuro attacks the Kokkuri for no good reason like a dumb-ass, Kokkuri just keeps her away and then leaves...so the whole group decides to destroy it?

Aren't they supposed to be "good guys"?
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Hoppy said:
bskbob said:
Inarius said:
oh wow...the obvious was finally revealed.


never trust ppl with pretty faces :P
We all knew that Hanadate was evil from the beginning, there were red flags about this throughout 1/4 of the anime.
True.

awwww...felt bad for Agemaki.
Why is Zakuro so sure that Agemaki likes her? :P
Riken's acting like Tachibana Junichi now XD
Nov 30, 2010 8:24 AM

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Hanedate's colors are finally revealed, although the intro kinda made this obvious from the start. I hate when intros do that. He didn't seem entirely into it though, maybe there's more than there seems to be. Looks like there are only going to be 13 episodes, it felt like it was going to be longer than that. Things should be getting exciting soon, but next week the climax hasn't started yet.
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Only 13 episodes? Really??
but it's not enough :O
we'll have a second season, maybe?
Nov 30, 2010 12:38 PM

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Its so obvious that Hanadate is the bad guy, I can even notice him in the OP. I want to see more Ganryu-sama and the twins, they need more screen-time.



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I dislike how fangirly Zakuro is over Hanadate. Especially since it's fairly obvious he's like the bad guy (surprise me please).
Nov 30, 2010 2:00 PM

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damn Ganyruu doesnt even know how a three person relationship works.
lol, he obviously has not watched harem animes before.

Poor Agemaki-san, I was so sad that he wasnt able to actually say his feelings and I always thought Hanadate would turn out to be a "bad" character from the very first episode.

Riken´s naiveness is actually cute. It fits his stoic character.
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Riken´s naiveness is actually cute. It fits his stoic character.


I agree haha. Thinking about it more too, it's kind of boring if they just fall in love right away. We know how they feel for each other there needs to be SOME kind of issue, even if it's just a minor one like this.
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For the first time i am not the one left in the dark with the insight into Hanadate. Must of been because i didn't like him being a rival since episode one.

Good episode in some ways, but at the same time there was not really any awesome moments this episode, and I am awfully susceptible to romantic scenes.
(Good 7/10)
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oh wow...the obvious was finally revealed.
The Subtiles made me laugh xD

Was Zakuro crying at the Preview for next episode?

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Was Zakuro crying at the Preview for next episode?

Yes. Hanadate asks for Zakuro's assistance to catch a Youkai roaming all over in the festival, Zakuro couldn't just say no. But she was supposed to meet Kei in a promised place. After they couldn't catch the youkai and the festival was over, she went to the promised meeting place only to find that Kei kept on waiting there. When she tried to explain what happened, Kei just stopped her from explaining and leaves her behind and heads back. Later that night, Kei started avoiding Zakuro every time she wanted to start a conversation. And finally not being able to have a talk with Kei, which always seemed so granted, she starts crying and realized how much Kei meant to her.

Aaa-ah~. Wouldn't that be wonderful! Romance all the way ♥.

Edit: On second thought, it will become one of those generic soap opera. But regardless, I love them, so I wouldn't mind something like that actually happening :P
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Well we knew Hanadate was evil since the beginning. It was extremely obvious from the OP.
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