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May 29, 2008 5:41 PM
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Reinhard better watch his back. He's been saying all along that even his subordinates are welcome to come at him and it looks like Reuental is seriously considering the proposition. Mittermeyer doesn't look like he'd go along so that may be a great strain on their friendship if it comes to pass.

Rubinsky is another one that better watch his back since the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. His son looks to be gunning for his position too.

Perhaps Julian becoming a soldier will be a great boon for the alliance? As it stands they really need more capable officers. As long as he continually learns from the best he should be able to do fine.

...even a saint needs a soldier to do the dirty work.
Oct 19, 2008 9:07 AM
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Ruental vs. Reinhard would be interesting I think. Hopefully for Reinhard it does not come down to that as he would lose a very capable officer. I wonder who Mitterymeyer would side with if it came down to that. Probably Ruental but you never know with this series.
Feb 2, 2009 7:04 AM
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Ah, the great irony of Yang teaching Julian about history. The historian-wannabe who is destined to make history himself.
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Sep 13, 2009 3:36 PM
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So Reinhard made his spot open for a challenge? Looks like Reuenthal would be eager to try.

Interesting to know that Rubinsky is Kessling's father. While interesting, it sure adds to the unease in the two governments. Rubinsky should have his bases covered knowing what his son is capbable of, otherwise Phezzan will be looking at a new leader.

Yang.... the man can't seem to get a firm hold of things in his sight. Although he lost Julian to becoming a formerly enlisted soldier, he gains one more bit of talent to his pool.
Jun 24, 2010 1:29 AM
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History is ♥ I've yet to find another character who likes it as much as I do other than Yang. Why are historians so underrepresented? It's always the archeologists that get the spotlight. >___>

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Aug 9, 2010 7:32 AM
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adamantine said:
History is ♥ I've yet to find another character who likes it as much as I do other than Yang. Why are historians so underrepresented? It's always the archeologists that get the spotlight. >___>

History doesn't find things of worth for the human greed ^^
Sep 14, 2010 1:02 PM
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now reuental wants to win the universe?lol

i really liked tis episode...it was...uhm...soothing with my mood i guess :)

5/5
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Nov 22, 2010 7:20 PM
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Well this was a meaningless episode, who cares about Phezzan? It seems like even Reinhard caught on now that Phezzan is up to something.

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Mar 19, 2011 6:34 AM
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Ruental vs. Reinhard would be interesting I think. Hopefully for Reinhard it does not come down to that as he would lose a very capable officer. I wonder who Mitterymeyer would side with if it came down to that. Probably Ruental but you never know with this series.


Yes, I wonder about that, too. Ruental could certainly give Reinhard a difficult time of it if he wanted I'm sure, although he would probably still end up dead in the end.
Mar 19, 2011 1:42 PM

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hehehe...I feel ticklish
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Aug 8, 2011 12:01 PM
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Reuental might want to challenge Reinhard? I really wish he wouldn't.
Sep 19, 2011 7:22 PM
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The Alliance has such a disproportionately large, potentially illegal amount of military expenditures, its economy is collapsing. In doing so the government buries itself in unpayable debt, owed to foreign nations (Phezzan). Gee, where have I heard that story before?


When Hilda suggested Reinhard was a hard man to persuade, Oberstein responded with a smirk and "Is that so?" Must find it pretty easy. Honestly he has the success rate to back up the smirk. Oberstein always gets what he wants.
Oct 26, 2011 3:35 AM

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Julian may become a huge help for the Alliance in the future considering they're hard pressed for talented soldiers.
Nov 7, 2011 6:26 AM

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If only Kircheis were alive....
Jan 7, 2012 1:25 PM

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danz said:
adamantine said:
History is ♥ I've yet to find another character who likes it as much as I do other than Yang. Why are historians so underrepresented? It's always the archeologists that get the spotlight. >___>

History doesn't find things of worth for the human greed ^^

I would argue that it does.
We humans just simply can not ever seem to see why.
Feb 6, 2012 3:33 PM

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If only Kircheis were alive....
Mar 31, 2012 3:22 PM

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I find it interesting that they were talking about Alliance ending up spending too much money on military expenses and therefore collapsing precisely because it tries to stay big. Considering this season aired before the collapse of Soviet Union that's very well put. Yang's philosophizing on the nature of armies was good as well, although the ideas hardly were unique.

If anyone's going to betray von Lohengramm, I'd bet on Oberstein. That man will stay in the background just as long as it's convenient.

A few episodes ago I realised that Julian is voiced by the same man who did Johan Liebert in Monster, now it's hard to miss. The voice is different but quite a few years have passed after all.
May 31, 2012 9:36 PM

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The thing that stuck with me the most this episode: Yang Wenli is probably the biggest pacifist at this point in the series, this was driven home a few episodes ago during the "inquiry". But, to Kempf's children he is "That Yang guy",The man responsible for their fathers death. It was just a short scene, but it spoke to me in some way.
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Sep 16, 2013 6:31 AM

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I wonder, is Mareindorf or w/e her name is going to become the next Sieg for Reinhard? Or in other words be "the light". I initially thought this was the case, but now I'm getting the feeling she acted tough at first but is in reality way over her head.
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Sep 26, 2014 9:41 PM

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Hilda's remarks on Oberstein are making me worried. I really don't want Reinhard to go down the lonely tyrant path...Hopefully Hilda can save him...

Good to see that Kircheis suggestions are still being used by Reinhard..Hopefully he keeps using them.

Worried about Ruental..Some major foreshadowing about his future. Will he rebel?? Hopefullly not. Him and Mittermeyer and one of my favs...

This Phezzan plot is getting me all nervous...After watching the preview I have a feeling that the plot is to assassinate Annerose....Hopefully this plot doesnt succeed!!! and Phezzan dies in the future...
Nov 4, 2014 10:12 PM

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Pirating_Ninja said:
I wonder, is Mareindorf or w/e her name is going to become the next Sieg for Reinhard? Or in other words be "the light". I initially thought this was the case, but now I'm getting the feeling she acted tough at first but is in reality way over her head.

Well if she doesn't step up to the plate I'm not sure who else would fit the role. Better act now before it's too late.
Dec 25, 2014 12:57 PM
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Julian's cat is awesome ! :D
Feb 23, 2015 11:49 AM

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Pretty nice episode and development! Let's see what's next.
Feb 27, 2015 8:25 PM

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Nice episode
It seems everyone on the Empire's side is wishing Kircheis were here to better control Reindhart's ambition
I wonder what big stuff is going to happen soon.
May 27, 2015 6:32 AM
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Great to see Reinhard is back to his old self again after a brief cameo from Kircheis :(
Jun 27, 2015 4:41 AM

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Solid episode. Still missing Siegfried :(
Aug 18, 2015 8:45 AM

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Sheeg-u :*(
Nov 18, 2015 1:12 PM

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The pen is mightier than the sword!
Jan 7, 2016 5:49 AM

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Fully creeped out when Jedi Ghost Kircheis appeared for a brief moment
Mar 10, 2016 3:37 PM

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Poor Yang. The only man with the ethics and the power to create universal peace is the guy that's hated by the largest number of people.
Jun 10, 2016 3:04 PM

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Oh, so they're father and son? No wonder they're both such conniving bastards, it runs in the family lol.

Looks like Reuenthal is ready to step up to the plate, this should be interesting.
Oct 3, 2016 6:04 PM

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"If only Kircheis were alive."
"If only Kircheis were alive."
"If only Kircheis were alive."
"If only Kircheis were alive."

No wonder it's become a meme
Also that speech about the role of the military in human history was nice I guess
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Ends of the battle, and Reinhard forgives the loses of the battle!!

a little boring episode :( more politic/hidden plot :(
Sep 20, 2018 8:02 PM

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Sick dude is getting too desperate. He's going to cause some problems sooner or later.
Nov 2, 2019 9:24 AM

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I feel bad for Yang, everyone wants to kill him where he just wants peace

Doesn't matter when and where, History always repeats itself huh
From fighting for freedom to dictator because of power & money
And it will always repeat itself even now, in real life
This anime is just too real :P

Well looks like it's the time for new characters and disasters to enter the stage
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Quite a lot was going on in this episode. It's true that Kircheis is missing, but his influence is still there.

Meanwhile Reinhard is gonna jinx himself if he doesn't stop speaking like that. Who know's what or Reuental or maybe even Oberstein are capable of.

And more interesting insight on Rubinsky's side. I also enjoyed the chat between Yang and Julian.

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Apr 22, 2021 10:39 PM

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Well this was a meaningless episode, who cares about Phezzan? It seems like even Reinhard caught on now that Phezzan is up to something.

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Phezzan have quite alot to do with everything going on. I want more of them!
Jul 2, 2021 10:32 AM

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2021 Rewatch

Mittermeyer and Reuenthal defeat the arrogant FPA forces that pursued the retreating Imperial ships from the defeat of Geiersberg.

What's with that tiger-stripe pattern on Nguyen Van Huu's ship?

Rubinsky & Kesserling discuss bloodlines and Reinhard & Hildegard doing the same.

*looks at strands of hair in the locket* "That'll be alright, won't it, Kircheis?" 😭

Reuenthal admitting that he could be wrong and Mittermeyer worrying Oberstein might get him for it....

Yang wanted to study history but he and Julian are now making history... contrast this with the ill Kümmel who worries that he doesn't have enough time to leave his mark.
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Jul 20, 2021 6:18 PM

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ayo reuenthal sus
Dec 20, 2021 9:11 AM
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This was a magnificent episode
Feb 26, 2022 10:41 PM

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"There are two types of violence;
That which controls and suppress,
and that which liberates."

sounds like a line from Lelouch book
May 4, 2022 9:20 AM

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thought it won't be long 'till reinhard will notice robinsky's influence. but at the same episode he already talked about it lol.

yang his philosophy, argh, masterpiece!
Nov 17, 2022 2:33 PM

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Julian is going to become the next Yang Wengli for sure. I just hope Yang doesn't die in order for that to happen
Jan 8, 2023 5:32 AM

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Very good development episode, Reuntal might have somehing interesting going around him
May 26, 2023 5:55 PM
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Decent episode, Reinhard's anti-hereditary politics are very agreeable. 
Aug 25, 2023 10:38 AM

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Decent episode I'd say. Still very overrated in my book, but a little less now.

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