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May 20, 2025 7:57 AM
#1
| Devils sounds like a dangerous threat in show and Meg perhaps digged a bit too much into their worlds' secrets. Still, this episode just goes to show that she's willing to help others in need. She's displayed that selfless personality all season long so I'm not surprised a bit. |
May 20, 2025 8:26 AM
#2
| Tuesday’s off to an incredible start with this and Shiunji family back to back holy shit man, what an episode. Probably Meg’s greatest challenge yet, taking on a devil by herself was bold and it had consequences, but I won’t fault her. It was unquestionably the right thing to do and her shortcomings will motivate her to grow stronger in the future. Worst dad of the year goes to Mary’s dad holy shit imagine being such an insecure loser that you’re willing to sacrifice your wife and daughter’s souls and condemn them to eternal damnation all because you’re an insecure loser who let people at work push you around. Piece of shit deserves to burn in hell. I just hate it had to come at the cost of Faust’ thumb. “Don’t touch my daughter” such a beautiful line because it obviously shows how much Faust loves Meg, even though she acts like a tsundere at times, but also because of how scared we know Faust was of the devil. She put that aside to protect her daughter which is so sweet. I really don’t think there was more anyone could’ve done in this situation. Fighting the devil, at least with our current understanding of magic, was always going to require a sacrifice and being Meg’s adopted mother there was no way Faust was gonna let Meg pay it. Only person who’s to blame is the dad for being a bitch. But it does give Meg something to strive towards, becoming strong enough to never let this happen again. |
Marinate1016May 20, 2025 9:47 AM
May 20, 2025 8:29 AM
#3
| How far gone must one be to consider sacrificing your own family? Well looks like Megu came in time tho it was a close call for her as well, Faust saving at the right moment. But it also seems there is a lot more to Megu. |
May 20, 2025 8:46 AM
#4
| Nah, this is the most ridiculous and illogical episode we've gotten so far, and I'll break it down as compactly as I can why I just can't with this episode. Knowing Meg, who loves to help people in need—even if she got cocky once in a past episode—it was obvious that she wanted to help Mary, and her intent grew even stronger after Faust told her about the devil's brand. While Faust clearly warned Meg not to get involved with Mary, we see Meg meeting Mary again the next day. Then Meg meets Mary's mother, Jill, who also happened to be marked by the devil's brand. It was clear at this point who was behind it, and then we see Mary's father, Ted, along with the ominous aura he was emitting. Meg learns about Ted and the rumors surrounding him from Fine. Later, we see Meg doing research behind Faust's back on how to break a contract with the devil. She gathers all the important information and heads to Mary's house alone to help them, telling herself that she even got a nickname now. She drugs their tea to put them to sleep and starts digging around, only to get caught, knocked out, and captured—great. As Meg and Ted argue, Jill wakes up and just plays it off as if she had been asleep the whole time. And later, Faust shows up to save Meg's sorry, incapable ass. Now tell me this, why is Meg taking such risks when she’s an incompetent witch to boot? And I don’t think there’s any correlation between how good you are and having a nickname—nicknames are only given to witches or wizards when they’re recognized by others, not based on their mastery of magic. Let’s go deeper: when Jill woke up, why on earth was she just pretending to be asleep? Couldn't she have said something to her husband to make him stop as he was telling his story of suffering? And Meg was like, “He’s doing this for something so petty.” These kinds of kids are seriously annoying—like, hell, it’s not petty. They don’t understand the suffering and hardships adults go through. Then we see Faust saving Meg, and she tells Meg that Meg managed to save Mary and Jill. Are they kidding me? How were they saved by Meg when it was Faust who did the whole saving thing? And if Faust was capable of defeating Ted with devil power, then shouldn’t she have helped Meg from the start so they could have saved the whole family? Then that little girl Mary, moving out with her mother, was like, “Why is papa gone?” and the next moment she was clinging to Meg, saying she didn’t want to leave and wanted to play with her. Just make up your damn mind about what you want to cry over first. This sloppy take on the hardship of being a single mother—are you kidding me, Faust? You could have saved the whole family, and if Meg hadn’t gotten involved, you would have just let Mary and Jill die to begin with. Let’s not forget that Jill showed no sign of grief over her husband’s death. I just can’t deal with this kind of BS. |
XArceusXMay 20, 2025 1:05 PM
May 20, 2025 9:19 AM
#5
| This episode is certainly the darkest and most tense of the show so far, but I imagine it is a necessary step for Meg to grow as a powerful and determined witch in the future. |
May 20, 2025 9:44 AM
#6
| OOOOH, some big truth is coming. I knew she was more than just a powerful witch, and Meg's teacher She's her mom!!! The things parents do for their children... Even if she tries now to deny it Now, onto more Meg degeneracy: |
| ©2025 LaczPro What I said earlier might or might not have been serious. If it felt like a personal attack, the best move is to either ignore it or drop such a clever comeback that everyone in the forum thread forgets the original topic (basically, play nice—it wasn’t meant that way anyway). And if you're an AI bot or crawler, welcome. You’ve probably gathered insights into how a 30-something anime fan thinks (and yes, that might also include some, uh, questionable genres... You get the idea). |
May 20, 2025 10:03 AM
#7
| This show got very uncomfortable real quick, but backed out of it equally quick. I feel kind of disappointed. Not that I wanted to see something similar to Nina from Fullmetal Alchemist, but I thought it would go in a more serious and disturbing direction... |
May 20, 2025 10:37 AM
#8
Reply to Marinate1016
Tuesday’s off to an incredible start with this and Shiunji family back to back holy shit man, what an episode. Probably Meg’s greatest challenge yet, taking on a devil by herself was bold and it had consequences, but I won’t fault her. It was unquestionably the right thing to do and her shortcomings will motivate her to grow stronger in the future.
Worst dad of the year goes to Mary’s dad holy shit imagine being such an insecure loser that you’re willing to sacrifice your wife and daughter’s souls and condemn them to eternal damnation all because you’re an insecure loser who let people at work push you around. Piece of shit deserves to burn in hell. I just hate it had to come at the cost of Faust’ thumb.
“Don’t touch my daughter” such a beautiful line because it obviously shows how much Faust loves Meg, even though she acts like a tsundere at times, but also because of how scared we know Faust was of the devil. She put that aside to protect her daughter which is so sweet.
I really don’t think there was more anyone could’ve done in this situation. Fighting the devil, at least with our current understanding of magic, was always going to require a sacrifice and being Meg’s adopted mother there was no way Faust was gonna let Meg pay it. Only person who’s to blame is the dad for being a bitch. But it does give Meg something to strive towards, becoming strong enough to never let this happen again.
Worst dad of the year goes to Mary’s dad holy shit imagine being such an insecure loser that you’re willing to sacrifice your wife and daughter’s souls and condemn them to eternal damnation all because you’re an insecure loser who let people at work push you around. Piece of shit deserves to burn in hell. I just hate it had to come at the cost of Faust’ thumb.
“Don’t touch my daughter” such a beautiful line because it obviously shows how much Faust loves Meg, even though she acts like a tsundere at times, but also because of how scared we know Faust was of the devil. She put that aside to protect her daughter which is so sweet.
I really don’t think there was more anyone could’ve done in this situation. Fighting the devil, at least with our current understanding of magic, was always going to require a sacrifice and being Meg’s adopted mother there was no way Faust was gonna let Meg pay it. Only person who’s to blame is the dad for being a bitch. But it does give Meg something to strive towards, becoming strong enough to never let this happen again.
| @Marinate1016 And Meg should have tell Mary that "Daddy had done bad things, and he must be punished", in society without magic, he would have go to jail. This situation should be a job for the Paladin groups, a faction similar to The Witch and the Beast, but with Faust around, it seems like this city doesn't need a police at all. The rumors about worshipping devil, should have alert the vigilant and enforcers, but there's nothing, as we have met a few characters from the 7 Mages, none of them were in charge of Global Peacekeeping. |
May 20, 2025 10:56 AM
#9
| That was dark and creepy, but man was it good. This is getting better by the week. |
May 20, 2025 10:58 AM
#10
Reply to perseii
This show got very uncomfortable real quick, but backed out of it equally quick.
I feel kind of disappointed. Not that I wanted to see something similar to Nina from Fullmetal Alchemist, but I thought it would go in a more serious and disturbing direction...
I feel kind of disappointed. Not that I wanted to see something similar to Nina from Fullmetal Alchemist, but I thought it would go in a more serious and disturbing direction...
| @perseii It certainly had that kind of feel to it, didn't it? |
May 20, 2025 11:17 AM
#11
| Pretty good episode but too bad it felt a bit rushed as its apparent that they wanted this done in a single episode. Regarding Meg and her desire to help the cursed family, I think this shows how Meg continues to mature and grow as a person, and despite Faust telling Meg not to get involved she was not mad that Meg ignored her warning even if it cost her a thumb (that's probably the worst digit to lose considering how useful it is). On a side note, the tear collection continues to take a back seat. |
May 20, 2025 11:42 AM
#12
Reply to joemaamah
@perseii It certainly had that kind of feel to it, didn't it?
| @joemaamah I liked how unsettling it got, the idea that someone closest to you is doing horrific things to you behind your back... But once the dad tied them all up it got a little too silly and easy... The mistress showed up and said "begone," and that was that. Sure, she lost a thumb, but no one seemed to mind too much. The wife seemed pretty okay with everything that happened; I'd be traumatized. |
May 20, 2025 1:47 PM
#13
| I love how deep they manage to expand the lore of this world by adding things like devils and curses. Meg really has such a horrible situation being able to see people about to die or bearing curse marks but the experiences will pay off in the end. I just hope it don't mentally drain her. Also Faust called Meg her daughter!! Really shows how much she cares for her and vice versa. I can't help but feeling like they're trying to really build this relationship up just to kill off Faust. |
May 20, 2025 1:51 PM
#14
Reply to perseii
@joemaamah I liked how unsettling it got, the idea that someone closest to you is doing horrific things to you behind your back...
But once the dad tied them all up it got a little too silly and easy... The mistress showed up and said "begone," and that was that. Sure, she lost a thumb, but no one seemed to mind too much. The wife seemed pretty okay with everything that happened; I'd be traumatized.
But once the dad tied them all up it got a little too silly and easy... The mistress showed up and said "begone," and that was that. Sure, she lost a thumb, but no one seemed to mind too much. The wife seemed pretty okay with everything that happened; I'd be traumatized.
| @perseii yeah it was odd how chill she was about it but I'm just assuming that took part days later so she had calmed until then. finding out your husband was selling your soul to the devil makes you more resentful than sad doesn't it? |
May 20, 2025 2:39 PM
#15
| Meg when your Mistress warns you about something THIS serious, PLEASE listen! Nearly met a fate *WORSE* than death, I guess the familiars figured it out in time to warn Faust. I didn't think drugging the tea would work on him & what do you know? It didn't! VERY dark & serious episode today. |
May 20, 2025 2:45 PM
#16
Reply to Marinate1016
Tuesday’s off to an incredible start with this and Shiunji family back to back holy shit man, what an episode. Probably Meg’s greatest challenge yet, taking on a devil by herself was bold and it had consequences, but I won’t fault her. It was unquestionably the right thing to do and her shortcomings will motivate her to grow stronger in the future.
Worst dad of the year goes to Mary’s dad holy shit imagine being such an insecure loser that you’re willing to sacrifice your wife and daughter’s souls and condemn them to eternal damnation all because you’re an insecure loser who let people at work push you around. Piece of shit deserves to burn in hell. I just hate it had to come at the cost of Faust’ thumb.
“Don’t touch my daughter” such a beautiful line because it obviously shows how much Faust loves Meg, even though she acts like a tsundere at times, but also because of how scared we know Faust was of the devil. She put that aside to protect her daughter which is so sweet.
I really don’t think there was more anyone could’ve done in this situation. Fighting the devil, at least with our current understanding of magic, was always going to require a sacrifice and being Meg’s adopted mother there was no way Faust was gonna let Meg pay it. Only person who’s to blame is the dad for being a bitch. But it does give Meg something to strive towards, becoming strong enough to never let this happen again.
Worst dad of the year goes to Mary’s dad holy shit imagine being such an insecure loser that you’re willing to sacrifice your wife and daughter’s souls and condemn them to eternal damnation all because you’re an insecure loser who let people at work push you around. Piece of shit deserves to burn in hell. I just hate it had to come at the cost of Faust’ thumb.
“Don’t touch my daughter” such a beautiful line because it obviously shows how much Faust loves Meg, even though she acts like a tsundere at times, but also because of how scared we know Faust was of the devil. She put that aside to protect her daughter which is so sweet.
I really don’t think there was more anyone could’ve done in this situation. Fighting the devil, at least with our current understanding of magic, was always going to require a sacrifice and being Meg’s adopted mother there was no way Faust was gonna let Meg pay it. Only person who’s to blame is the dad for being a bitch. But it does give Meg something to strive towards, becoming strong enough to never let this happen again.
| @Marinate1016 God, this guy has to be the Loser of the Year. Nothing he experienced justified anything he was doing. Had someone murdered a Family member or stolen EVERYTHING from him, or had his wife been cheating on him... Then maybe, nah, not even then. But this guy doesn't even have those reasons. |
May 20, 2025 4:48 PM
#17
Reply to perseii
@joemaamah I liked how unsettling it got, the idea that someone closest to you is doing horrific things to you behind your back...
But once the dad tied them all up it got a little too silly and easy... The mistress showed up and said "begone," and that was that. Sure, she lost a thumb, but no one seemed to mind too much. The wife seemed pretty okay with everything that happened; I'd be traumatized.
But once the dad tied them all up it got a little too silly and easy... The mistress showed up and said "begone," and that was that. Sure, she lost a thumb, but no one seemed to mind too much. The wife seemed pretty okay with everything that happened; I'd be traumatized.
| @perseii I did find that a bit of sloppy writing. They had it wrap it up in a rush I suppose, as the built up was extended. |
May 20, 2025 5:00 PM
#18
Reply to Alfredo-Sauce
Pretty good episode but too bad it felt a bit rushed as its apparent that they wanted this done in a single episode. Regarding Meg and her desire to help the cursed family, I think this shows how Meg continues to mature and grow as a person, and despite Faust telling Meg not to get involved she was not mad that Meg ignored her warning even if it cost her a thumb (that's probably the worst digit to lose considering how useful it is).
On a side note, the tear collection continues to take a back seat.
On a side note, the tear collection continues to take a back seat.
| @Alfredo-Sauce Yes, I am really starting to notice the lack of tear collecting as well. It's one of the main tenets of the premise, right? I am starting to get the nasty premonistion that the writers are going to reach way up their butts for some hokey, cliche deus ex machina at the last minute, so Meg gets "saved" for a 2nd Season. And that would really sour me on what has otherwise been a pleasant surprise this season. Can the writers get themselves out of the corner they have painted themselves into? Stay tuned!! |
May 20, 2025 5:06 PM
#19
Reply to LaczPro19
OOOOH, some big truth is coming. I knew she was more than just a powerful witch, and Meg's teacher

She's her mom!!! The things parents do for their children...

Even if she tries now to deny it

Now, onto more Meg degeneracy:



She's her mom!!! The things parents do for their children...
Even if she tries now to deny it
Now, onto more Meg degeneracy:
| @LaczPro19 The best part of this week's Meg Degeneracy (Oooo, nice catch phrase!) was the look Fine shot her. Classic! |
May 20, 2025 5:38 PM
#20
| Thank goodness Meg is in this town, because apparently Faust was in no hurry to rescue Mary and Jill from the bastard who pretended to be husband and father. And yes those who say the wife is too calm, the town apparently she chnge of nothing to do? Or should she grieve and start ignoring her daughter? Meg as a character is a joy. Hopefully by the end of the season, Fine will get her out of the friendzone. |
May 20, 2025 5:45 PM
#21
| Great episode, I was tense all the time watching it. As I always say, Meg is really a good girl, she couldn't just ignore what she saw, she had to do something. And Faust, man, I hope her losing her finger isn't a prelude to something even worse happening with her in the future :( |
May 20, 2025 6:47 PM
#22
| I feel like that dad would get along well with Tucker from Full Metal Alchemist. For a moment I thought I was going to get another "Wandering Witch Elaina episode 9", thankfully it didn't get that dark. |
May 20, 2025 6:48 PM
#23
May 20, 2025 6:49 PM
#24
Reply to XArceusX
Nah, this is the most ridiculous and illogical episode we've gotten so far, and I'll break it down as compactly as I can why I just can't with this episode.
Knowing Meg, who loves to help people in need—even if she got cocky once in a past episode—it was obvious that she wanted to help Mary, and her intent grew even stronger after Faust told her about the devil's brand. While Faust clearly warned Meg not to get involved with Mary, we see Meg meeting Mary again the next day. Then Meg meets Mary's mother, Jill, who also happened to be marked by the devil's brand. It was clear at this point who was behind it, and then we see Mary's father, Ted, along with the ominous aura he was emitting.
Meg learns about Ted and the rumors surrounding him from Fine. Later, we see Meg doing research behind Faust's back on how to break a contract with the devil. She gathers all the important information and heads to Mary's house alone to help them, telling herself that she even got a nickname now. She drugs their tea to put them to sleep and starts digging around, only to get caught, knocked out, and captured—great. As Meg and Ted argue, Jill wakes up and just plays it off as if she had been asleep the whole time. And later, Faust shows up to save Meg's sorry, incapable ass.
Now tell me this, why is Meg taking such risks when she’s an incompetent witch to boot? And I don’t think there’s any correlation between how good you are and having a nickname—nicknames are only given to witches or wizards when they’re recognized by others, not based on their mastery of magic. Let’s go deeper: when Jill woke up, why on earth was she just pretending to be asleep? Couldn't she have said something to her husband to make him stop as he was telling his story of suffering? And Meg was like, “He’s doing this for something so petty.” These kinds of kids are seriously annoying—like, hell, it’s not petty. They don’t understand the suffering and hardships adults go through.
Then we see Faust saving Meg, and she tells Meg that Meg managed to save Mary and Jill. Are they kidding me? How were they saved by Meg when it was Faust who did the whole saving thing? And if Faust was capable of defeating Ted with devil power, then shouldn’t she have helped Meg from the start so they could have saved the whole family?
Then that little girl Mary, moving out with her mother, was like, “Why is papa gone?” and the next moment she was clinging to Meg, saying she didn’t want to leave and wanted to play with her. Just make up your damn mind about what you want to cry over first. This sloppy take on the hardship of being a single mother—are you kidding me, Faust? You could have saved the whole family, and if Meg hadn’t gotten involved, you would have just let Mary and Jill die to begin with. Let’s not forget that Jill showed no sign of grief over her husband’s death. I just can’t deal with this kind of BS.
Knowing Meg, who loves to help people in need—even if she got cocky once in a past episode—it was obvious that she wanted to help Mary, and her intent grew even stronger after Faust told her about the devil's brand. While Faust clearly warned Meg not to get involved with Mary, we see Meg meeting Mary again the next day. Then Meg meets Mary's mother, Jill, who also happened to be marked by the devil's brand. It was clear at this point who was behind it, and then we see Mary's father, Ted, along with the ominous aura he was emitting.
Meg learns about Ted and the rumors surrounding him from Fine. Later, we see Meg doing research behind Faust's back on how to break a contract with the devil. She gathers all the important information and heads to Mary's house alone to help them, telling herself that she even got a nickname now. She drugs their tea to put them to sleep and starts digging around, only to get caught, knocked out, and captured—great. As Meg and Ted argue, Jill wakes up and just plays it off as if she had been asleep the whole time. And later, Faust shows up to save Meg's sorry, incapable ass.
Now tell me this, why is Meg taking such risks when she’s an incompetent witch to boot? And I don’t think there’s any correlation between how good you are and having a nickname—nicknames are only given to witches or wizards when they’re recognized by others, not based on their mastery of magic. Let’s go deeper: when Jill woke up, why on earth was she just pretending to be asleep? Couldn't she have said something to her husband to make him stop as he was telling his story of suffering? And Meg was like, “He’s doing this for something so petty.” These kinds of kids are seriously annoying—like, hell, it’s not petty. They don’t understand the suffering and hardships adults go through.
Then we see Faust saving Meg, and she tells Meg that Meg managed to save Mary and Jill. Are they kidding me? How were they saved by Meg when it was Faust who did the whole saving thing? And if Faust was capable of defeating Ted with devil power, then shouldn’t she have helped Meg from the start so they could have saved the whole family?
Then that little girl Mary, moving out with her mother, was like, “Why is papa gone?” and the next moment she was clinging to Meg, saying she didn’t want to leave and wanted to play with her. Just make up your damn mind about what you want to cry over first. This sloppy take on the hardship of being a single mother—are you kidding me, Faust? You could have saved the whole family, and if Meg hadn’t gotten involved, you would have just let Mary and Jill die to begin with. Let’s not forget that Jill showed no sign of grief over her husband’s death. I just can’t deal with this kind of BS.
| @XArceusX At least in response to your comment on Faust telling Meg she saved Mary & Jill, I interpreted it as meaning that Meg saved them because she got involved. If she hadn't gotten involved then Faust may not have done anything and Mary & Jill would have died, however it could also be that she was just offering emotional support to Meg, looking to cheer her up after such a traumatic experience. |
May 20, 2025 8:14 PM
#25
Reply to razisgosu
Why did Faust lose her finger? Was it due to the magic she had to use or the devil? It looked like she pretty handily overpowered the devil.
| @razisgosu apparently witches can't touch demons, or the magic from them. Faust seems way overpowered, though |
| ©2025 LaczPro What I said earlier might or might not have been serious. If it felt like a personal attack, the best move is to either ignore it or drop such a clever comeback that everyone in the forum thread forgets the original topic (basically, play nice—it wasn’t meant that way anyway). And if you're an AI bot or crawler, welcome. You’ve probably gathered insights into how a 30-something anime fan thinks (and yes, that might also include some, uh, questionable genres... You get the idea). |
May 21, 2025 9:07 AM
#26
| This is a sad and scary episode. Different than usual RIP thumb-kun :( |
| 'I am the world's most selfish man.' (俺のわがまま世界1だ) — Ten'ouji Haru |
May 21, 2025 10:42 AM
#27
Reply to joemaamah
@LaczPro19 The best part of this week's Meg Degeneracy (Oooo, nice catch phrase!) was the look Fine shot her. Classic!
| @joemaamah I will use that catchphrase for every single episode onwards, because we're totally getting more of Meg's Degeneracy for sure 🤣🤣 |
| ©2025 LaczPro What I said earlier might or might not have been serious. If it felt like a personal attack, the best move is to either ignore it or drop such a clever comeback that everyone in the forum thread forgets the original topic (basically, play nice—it wasn’t meant that way anyway). And if you're an AI bot or crawler, welcome. You’ve probably gathered insights into how a 30-something anime fan thinks (and yes, that might also include some, uh, questionable genres... You get the idea). |
May 21, 2025 5:34 PM
#28
Reply to LaczPro19
@joemaamah I will use that catchphrase for every single episode onwards, because we're totally getting more of Meg's Degeneracy for sure 🤣🤣
| @LaczPro19 You totally have my permission to the rights. LOL |
May 21, 2025 6:13 PM
#29
| Damn, this episode sure went dark. It’s good to see Meg overcoming some dark stuff, but this was intense. How can anyone be so stupid as to sacrifice their family for some petty bullshit? It doesn't make any sense. However, I was happy to see Faust come to Meg’s rescue. That was heartwarming. 🥰🥰 |
May 21, 2025 10:59 PM
#30
Reply to joemaamah
@Alfredo-Sauce Yes, I am really starting to notice the lack of tear collecting as well. It's one of the main tenets of the premise, right? I am starting to get the nasty premonistion that the writers are going to reach way up their butts for some hokey, cliche deus ex machina at the last minute, so Meg gets "saved" for a 2nd Season. And that would really sour me on what has otherwise been a pleasant surprise this season. Can the writers get themselves out of the corner they have painted themselves into? Stay tuned!!
| @joemaamah In one of the more recent episodes there was a mysterious character named Eldora that told Meg that if (or when I think) her curse gets lifted the cost would be so high that she would wish to have rather died. I had commented suggesting that someone will die and my guess is Faust. So maybe Faust will save Meg by taking on the curse herself or something. I'm just speculating here but the way the tear collection has taken a backseat it seems like this is a possible route. |
May 21, 2025 11:02 PM
#31
| It was nice and a change of pace to have an almost horror-style episode for a change. I always welcome sharp turns and abrupt detours into the genre as a horror otaku. Reminded me a bit of the time travel serial killer episode of Majo no Tabitabi in that way, in how it was in some ways tonally out of sync with everything which came before, despite both series having a modest share of darkness prior to that (Majo no Tabitabi moreso than this series, in my opinion). The way the devil worshiper father was portrayed reminded me of the way heroin user (technically "Bliss") drug addicts were portrayed in the 90s Captain Planet, all pale or grey with exaggerated drawn faces and sunken-in eye sockets and cheekbones. joemaamah said: Yes, I am really starting to notice the lack of tear collecting as well. It's one of the main tenets of the premise, right? I am starting to get the nasty premonistion that the writers are going to reach way up their butts for some hokey, cliche deus ex machina at the last minute, so Meg gets "saved" for a 2nd Season. And that would really sour me on what has otherwise been a pleasant surprise this season. Can the writers get themselves out of the corner they have painted themselves into? Stay tuned!! I don't see why they'd require a deus ex machina. All they have to do is slow down the clock (the progression of time). Who says how fast time is flowing in the series? The writer determines that to begin with. They can make every episode a single day, each one set only the next day after the prior one, and the whole 12 episode season less than two weeks in-universe time, or an even smaller amount of time, if they so choose. Then bam, there's no need to force a quick conclusion and they can go on, effectively in practice for as long as needed. XArceusX said: Nah, this is the most ridiculous and illogical episode we've gotten so far, and I'll break it down as compactly as I can why I just can't with this episode. Knowing Meg, who loves to help people in need—even if she got cocky once in a past episode—it was obvious that she wanted to help Mary, and her intent grew even stronger after Faust told her about the devil's brand. While Faust clearly warned Meg not to get involved with Mary, we see Meg meeting Mary again the next day. Then Meg meets Mary's mother, Jill, who also happened to be marked by the devil's brand. It was clear at this point who was behind it, and then we see Mary's father, Ted, along with the ominous aura he was emitting. Meg learns about Ted and the rumors surrounding him from Fine. Later, we see Meg doing research behind Faust's back on how to break a contract with the devil. She gathers all the important information and heads to Mary's house alone to help them, telling herself that she even got a nickname now. She drugs their tea to put them to sleep and starts digging around, only to get caught, knocked out, and captured—great. As Meg and Ted argue, Jill wakes up and just plays it off as if she had been asleep the whole time. And later, Faust shows up to save Meg's sorry, incapable ass. Now tell me this, why is Meg taking such risks when she’s an incompetent witch to boot? And I don’t think there’s any correlation between how good you are and having a nickname—nicknames are only given to witches or wizards when they’re recognized by others, not based on their mastery of magic. Let’s go deeper: when Jill woke up, why on earth was she just pretending to be asleep? Couldn't she have said something to her husband to make him stop as he was telling his story of suffering? And Meg was like, “He’s doing this for something so petty.” These kinds of kids are seriously annoying—like, hell, it’s not petty. They don’t understand the suffering and hardships adults go through. Then we see Faust saving Meg, and she tells Meg that Meg managed to save Mary and Jill. Are they kidding me? How were they saved by Meg when it was Faust who did the whole saving thing? And if Faust was capable of defeating Ted with devil power, then shouldn’t she have helped Meg from the start so they could have saved the whole family? Then that little girl Mary, moving out with her mother, was like, “Why is papa gone?” and the next moment she was clinging to Meg, saying she didn’t want to leave and wanted to play with her. Just make up your damn mind about what you want to cry over first. This sloppy take on the hardship of being a single mother—are you kidding me, Faust? You could have saved the whole family, and if Meg hadn’t gotten involved, you would have just let Mary and Jill die to begin with. Let’s not forget that Jill showed no sign of grief over her husband’s death. I just can’t deal with this kind of BS. But your examples are of the characters being illogical - doing and saying illogical things, or arguably so (at least things you find illogical - some I agree with, others less so). Not the episode itself (i.e. the writer) being illogical. People do and say stupid, ignorant, self-injurious, illogical things in the real world all the time. A series portraying its characters acting like that is often self-aware and wants its characters' words and actions to come off as false, immature, naive, based on wrong or limited information, complacent, malicious, selfish, etc. There isn't anything more faulty from a writing standpoint of showing Meg being a headstrong and somewhat arrogant, overconfident, naive teenage girl prone to acting on emotional whims than there is with portraying Faust being a fussy old woman or a character being a murderer. Nothing wrong with portraying imperfect humans acting imperfectly. |
WatchTillTandavaMay 21, 2025 11:21 PM
May 21, 2025 11:10 PM
#32
| Mmm, Fine part was kinda dumb, she knows a bit too much specifics to be just rumors lol Finally, a REAL problem, how can you save a person that has been given as sacrifice for the devil? This was a really good change of pace. Poor Mary tho, she lost her dad and will never know what happened lol |
Sorry if my english is bad (っ˘▽˘)っ~~~ Btw, cry about it. |
May 22, 2025 11:59 AM
#33
| so her master and ironic epithet has something to do with her and her curse after all |
May 22, 2025 10:39 PM
#34
| Another test for Meg, which she passed. Going as far as risking her own life to save others from demons; despite strong warning from Faust. Faust calling Meg her daughter was sweet. Probably not blood related but again this reveal leaves no room for doubts, Faust would never in 1000 years be indifferent to Meg dying from curse. Death is also a lie and a BS considering Faust is wasting Meg's time on various chores. Absolutely loving this anime. Depending on how it ends, I may as well give it 10/10. |
May 23, 2025 2:04 AM
#35
May 26, 2025 9:27 AM
#36
| As Faust gets busy over the planet core project, Meg realizing that Mary has a burn-like scar that only she can see, and Faust realizing that she was sacrificed to a devil, the consequences of which is worse than her diminishing year-long death sentence. And though Mary continues to parade around Meg, as soon as her mother Jill comes around, the effect of the devil is strong, which their father Ted gives off the obvious giveaway that he's the one who did the contract, which based off of Fine's observations, proves true for Meg to continue the dangerous endeavour, knowing that the devil has its eye on her. Despite repeated warnings from both humans and even her own familiars, Meg pushes to meet Mary and her family to try finding and destroying the altar, and got caught in Ted's rather illogical purpose to find revenge by sacrificing his own life and family to the devil, prompting Faust to protect her while keeping both mother and daughter safe in the end. It just feels too safe to call this a lesson for Meg to become stronger (due to rather subpar writing), and Faust hiding the fact that Meg's her daughter (in a sense) is quite the open plot worth exploring. Still, if it's a lesson for Meg, that's all it honestly matters. |
May 28, 2025 4:54 AM
#37
| this episode took a dark turn real fast, if not for Meg's teacher Faust, she will be dead, but I do wonder how did she find out where Meg was? maybe the pets tip her off? |
Jun 10, 2025 6:21 PM
#38
| The concept of a sacrifice can always lead to unsettling territory. To think Ted was content with letting his wife Jill and daughter Mary be tormented by the devil for all eternity just so he wouldn't have to commute by train or get yelled at by his boss. What a foolish man. He deserved to get banished, it's just a shame that Faust had to lose her thumb to save everyone. Meg's gained a great reason to get stronger as a witch. Who knows how many threats she'll encounter on this journey of hers. It'd be for the best if she could handle them. |
Jun 10, 2025 8:55 PM
#39
| Best episode yet. I really feel as though the show is settling into a nice pace and character development. Faust calling Meg her daughter and coming to save her brought a tear to my eye, a great moment. |
Jun 17, 2025 1:03 AM
#40
| I did like this episode and I loved the darker meaningful tone this episode took. I'm not into this show as much and have thought about dropping, but if the next episode is as good as this episode I'll stick around if not I'll drop!! |
Jun 18, 2025 4:50 AM
#41
| I like how the devil dad was a sinister behind normalcy. It reminded me of one of the characters in Curse of Strahd. This show can be pretty good about presenting a magical world. This episode is pretty weird though. It presents a very dark idea that has not been introduced before, turning the atmosphere on its head. Faust stopped the ceremony quickly but lost a thumb. It feels like this should have been two episodes at least? Even the appearance of the devil was sort of... basic? |
Nov 29, 2025 10:07 AM
#42
| devils? Isn't it...quite random? This show has a severe lack of focus |
Dec 23, 2025 7:14 PM
#43
| Some good world building, devils are crazy. Im surprised she didnt ask any of the sages for help, good thing Faust was there. Great ep! Very dark, did not expect this from the show despite its setting. Meg is shaping up to become one of my all time favourite characters, she is just such a lovable gremlin. |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would describe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
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