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| Tbh, Efa's reaction is pretty natural especially when a prince confessed to her. That elf aide seems to also be cautious around him. On Seika side, it looks like he went to investigate into his own case related to dragons. I swear, he never catches a break in this anime. |
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| Looking at Seika blatantly bomb that dumb prince was very satisfying to watch. |
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| It is typical of Seika to have that kind of conclusion, I know it was coming but I'm still glad that it was a happy ending for all of them, except the spoiled prince who is still like "a child" by Seika's own words as he dismissed the very thoughts of the prince. It was damn confusing at first when this arc started but now, it was damn good that I felt satisfied by the conclusion up to this episode though I really wanted something even more like a punishment for that Elf woman who kept insisting for Eifa to be in the prince's harem but I guess the current status is good enough for now. It feels like she simply used the two for her own agenda, probably for the prince's own growth but I doubt it will be coming soon. |
| It's not that I dislike this genre but... to add unnecessary fan services to/in/for heroines and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it, is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service. |
ghtyujkkpkohkjb said: She's a slave, they wanted to free her. The elf lady can also sense that spirits avoid Seika, so she initially believes him to be dangerous.From a servant to a harem woman? Oh yeah, a good choice. Now I wonder would Seika be challenged a duel to let Efa free or not. Upd. It's not harem. It's pretty much a private all girls school. So, what's the point for her to come from one education facility to another? |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
| Seika on his own investigating dragons, and chances upon one that has its sex change to birth an egg, what gives? It also turns out the prince's harem is actually more civilized than once thought, and using her as tax to free her, he's already doing it the wrong way to not seek approval from Seika, but being the typical scum to use money to get her. And it seems that calming the dragon down basically solved the issue of the dragon, and Yifa can return to where she was, together with Seika. But there is one problem to solve: Zekt and his mercenary team on retrieving the dragon's egg. But it was a cinch for both Seika and Yifa to completely outmaneuver them completely, and bring Protoaster back to normal. And all of this is a farce that the crown prince is doing nothing to solve his issues, let along the fact that he was never going to win Yifa no matter what, as long as Seika is around. For that, Lize rewarding Yifa with some of her elementals, it was at least a try, but this matter is settled. Well, the main evil group has shown up to defeat the hero, and this is on par for the course of the final conflict. |
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| Well that was 2 terrible episodes. My point from last episode was basically further cemented with how shit the prince's character is, personality wise and written wise. At the very least they didn't try to go with some NTR attempt route. Please, no more Ps2 graphic dragons. |
| At the end it all got resolved quite well tbh: Yifa made her clear decision (even twice) and as the prince wanted to take her with force again in the presence of Seika, he clearly denied it since the prince disregarded Yifa's choice. So he stood up against the childish, naive prince and said that he will never hand over Yifa in that manner and Yifa rejected him once more. I originally thought that they might use some mind controlling spell on Yifa to make her join the prince's harem. But the outcome would've been the same since Seika surely would've seen right through it. If necessary with the help of his kitsune spirit Yuki. A great development for Yifa though. She made her first proper decision in her life and that gave her the resolve to also take action on her own as she fought that lava beast of Zekt with Seika. Seika surely didn't need help as we could see, but he was surprised by Yifa's action and acknowledged that she finally can act on her own and doesn't need 'orders' anymore to do so. |
the_cureMar 4, 2023 12:41 PM
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| Compared to the novel it makes more sense to portray the prince as a bad guy, but it doesn't make these last two ep. any better, really. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
Paul said: I just dropped the show the very moment when MC said it would be an honor to have her spread cheeks for prince's entertainment and be his fucktoy. How dense is he not to understand she likes him. This MC is so divorced from reality and writers are trying their best to cover it with "he's a good guy" rhetoric it's making me want to vomit into my own shoes and then kick their ass. There's nothing more for me to see here and this episode is proof of it. I skimmed through it just to validate my decision and there's nothing redeeming in it.Well that was 2 terrible episodes. My point from last episode was basically further cemented with how shit the prince's character is, personality wise and written wise. At the very least they didn't try to go with some NTR attempt route. Please, no more Ps2 graphic dragons. |
LostSpectre said: Compared to the novel it makes more sense to portray the prince as a bad guy... I don't see the prince necessarily as the 'bad' guy. Or else the elf wouldn't support him. I see him simply as inexperienced and naive. He is not used to rejection and usually always got what he wanted. So when confronted with denial he doesn't know how to handle it and gets easily manipulated in order to get what he wants. Just like when they tried to make Yifa sign the contract. The other guy planted the idea that Yifa doesn't know what she wants and will accept later someday that this is the best for her. The prince easily assimilates that thought process since it is in his favor even though he initially realized that she said no clearly. So yeah, imo he's not 'bad', he just doesn't know how to handle rejection because most likely nobody of lower status ever dared to talk back to him during his young sheltered life as a prince. I also don't think he really intended to kill the dragon. He doesn't even have the means to do so anyway. He was just making things up in order to make Seika say no and lock him up so that he can have another shot at Yifa. He was so focused on the girl that he wanted that he even abandoned proper reasoning. Just like a little immature kid that didn't get the sweets it wanted. The elf luckily stepped in before things get out of hand and I am quite sure that she is a character that can and will educate that foolish prince. She realized that she herself was wrong about Seika and changed her opinion about him in the end. She was mislead by the spirits who avoided Seika and saw him as a monster. A monster not in the sense of somebody powerful. But a monster in the sense of somebody truly evil. But the way Seika resolved the matter and how he stepped in for Yifa maybe made her realize that this 'kid' cannot be truly evil like she assumed in the beginning. So she was also pulling the strings behind the prince thinking that she would save Yifa, one of her kin, and free her from an evil master before something bad happens to her. |
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MeanEYE said: The majority of your implications here are baseless though. Paul said: I just dropped the show the very moment when MC said it would be an honor to have her spread cheeks for prince's entertainment and be his fucktoy. How dense is he not to understand she likes him. This MC is so divorced from reality and writers are trying their best to cover it with "he's a good guy" rhetoric it's making me want to vomit into my own shoes and then kick their ass. There's nothing more for me to see here and this episode is proof of it. I skimmed through it just to validate my decision and there's nothing redeeming in it.Well that was 2 terrible episodes. My point from last episode was basically further cemented with how shit the prince's character is, personality wise and written wise. At the very least they didn't try to go with some NTR attempt route. Please, no more Ps2 graphic dragons. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
the_cure said: I don't quite agree. The prince's conduct is much more shady in the anime, it gives us cause to doubt the elf's assertion that he isn't a bad person. In the novel he was being serious about killing the dragon, fearing that Seika's proposition would never be accepted, and desperately needing to prove himself a worthy successor. I just assumed that when the elf said "let's put an end to this farce" they were testing Seika all along, but it was just her covering for the prince's madness, apparently. It's a lot more baffling in the novel, because there is at least proper justification for the how the prince/elf acted up until that moment, any many details were changed, as you can well imagine. LostSpectre said: Compared to the novel it makes more sense to portray the prince as a bad guy... I don't see the prince necessarily as the 'bad' guy. Or else the elf wouldn't support him. I see him simply as inexperienced and naive. He is not used to rejection and usually always got what he wanted. So when confronted with denial he doesn't know how to handle it and gets easily manipulated in order to get what he wants. Just like when they tried to make Yifa sign the contract. The other guy planted the idea that Yifa doesn't know what she wants and will accept later someday that this is the best for her. The prince easily assimilates that thought process since it is in his favor even though he initially realized that she said no clearly. So yeah, imo he's not 'bad', he just doesn't know how to handle rejection because most likely nobody of lower status ever dared to talk back to him during his young sheltered life as a prince. I also don't think he really intended to kill the dragon. He doesn't even have the means to do so anyway. He was just making things up in order to make Seika say no and lock him up so that he can have another shot at Yifa. He was so focused on the girl that he wanted that he even abandoned proper reasoning. Just like a little immature kid that didn't get the sweets it wanted. The elf luckily stepped in before things get out of hand and I am quite sure that she is a character that can and will educate that foolish prince. She realized that she herself was wrong about Seika and changed her opinion about him in the end. She was mislead by the spirits who avoided Seika and saw him as a monster. A monster not in the sense of somebody powerful. But a monster in the sense of somebody truly evil. But the way Seika resolved the matter and how he stepped in for Yifa maybe made her realize that this 'kid' cannot be truly evil like she assumed in the beginning. So she was also pulling the strings behind the prince thinking that she would save Yifa, one of her kin, and free her from an evil master before something bad happens to her. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
LostSpectre said: The prince's conduct is much more shady in the anime, it gives us cause to doubt the elf's assertion that he isn't a bad person. In the novel he was being serious about killing the dragon, fearing that Seika's proposition would never be accepted, and desperately needing to prove himself a worthy successor. I just assumed that when the elf said "let's put an end to this farce" they were testing Seika all along, but it was just her covering for the prince's madness, apparently. He kinda became 'mad', true. But I still think that he just fell in love with Yifa as soon as he saw her and his elf stating that Seika must be evil just further strengthened his resolve to 'save' his lovely Yifa from her evil master. Because now it is not only about getting her into his harem since this little boy's hormone cocktail inside his brain went wild but he also has the justification of saving this damsel in distress. How he treats his harem who have the chance to become important figures in society or politics shows to me that he is not 'bad'. He was just mislead to a wrong conclusion by the elf who made up her mind in the end that Seika cannot be evil as she assumed. The elf kind of used the prince's affection towards Yifa to 'save' her before Seika might harm her in the future in her opinion. That is why I think she is the character that is able to educate the prince. Maybe even shaping him into the man she wants him to be. I consider her quite the mentally strong and cunning character. And the prince also stated that he feared Seika's proposition would never be accepted in front of the council or whatever. But I see this reasoning more as a result of his resolve turning into madness/obsession to 'save' Yifa, the girl he fell for. Love can make you do some quite stupid things sometimes^^ Why would Seika's proposition be turned down anyway if it is even written in the history books as a precedent. That's why I think he just made things up because he started to get obsessed over the cute and innocent Yifa. |
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the_cure said: I don't really see how any of that makes him look better, and I can't tell you what is true/false in the anime, but it's much different in the novel. LostSpectre said: The prince's conduct is much more shady in the anime, it gives us cause to doubt the elf's assertion that he isn't a bad person. In the novel he was being serious about killing the dragon, fearing that Seika's proposition would never be accepted, and desperately needing to prove himself a worthy successor. I just assumed that when the elf said "let's put an end to this farce" they were testing Seika all along, but it was just her covering for the prince's madness, apparently. He kinda became 'mad', true. But I still think that he just fell in love with Yifa as soon as he saw her and his elf stating that Seika must be evil just further strengthened his resolve to 'save' his lovely Yifa from her evil master. Because now it is not only about getting her into his harem since this little boy's hormone cocktail inside his brain went wild but he also has the justification of saving this damsel in distress. How he treats his harem who have the chance to become important figures in society or politics shows to me that he is not 'bad'. He was just mislead to a wrong conclusion by the elf who made up her mind in the end that Seika cannot be evil as she assumed. The elf kind of used the prince's affection towards Yifa to 'save' her before Seika might harm her in the future in her opinion. That is why I think she is the character that is able to educate the prince. Maybe even shaping him into the man she wants him to be. I consider her quite the mentally strong and cunning character. And the prince also stated that he feared Seika's proposition would never be accepted in front of the council or whatever. But I see this reasoning more as a result of his resolve turning into madness/obsession to 'save' Yifa, the girl he fell for. Love can make you do some quite stupid things sometimes^^ Why would Seika's proposition be turned down anyway if it is even written in the history books as a precedent. That's why I think he just made things up because he started to get obsessed over the cute and innocent Yifa. |
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LostSpectre said: I don't really see how any of that makes him look better, and I can't tell you what is true/false in the anime, but it's much different in the novel. If he would be 'bad', he wouldn't treat his harem the way he does. If there would be a character temporarily turning 'bad', it would be the prince's elf Lize until she realizes that Seika cannot be that evil just because spirits avoid him. During the signing the contract scene the prince said: "I heard what Lize said. I don't understand what makes Seika dangerous, but I can't let you stay with a dangerous master." He is essentially head over heels for Yifa and uses the argument of his elf, Lize, which he doesn't even understand, as further justification to free her from her evil master. He basically doesn't even care to understand what it means. He 'loves' Yifa and his trustworthy elf stating that this guy is evil is all he needs to strengthen his resolve to get her into his harem. And Lize just wants to save one of her kin from Seika and helps because she is convinced that Seika is an evil being since the spirits avoid him. But Lize resolves the matter by herself and steps in at the end educating the prince and siding with Seika since she still has a functioning brain compared to the now obsessed and mislead (by her) prince^^ Lize basically realizes that she made a mistake and owns up for it at the end. As a sign of her actually good intentions and in order to make up for her blunder she even gave Yifa some light spirits. Basically why I consider Lize to be temporarily 'bad' is because she manipulated the prince into these actions. If it would be only him falling in love, she would've acknowledged Yifa's decision as she denied to sign the contract and would've already stepped in there to educate the prince to stop and let Yifa be. But she was still convinced at that point that Seika is evil and Yifa needs to be saved before he harms her. She tried it with reasoning by showing the benefits of joining the harem and then went on to forcing her. |
the_cureMar 4, 2023 2:46 PM
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| dude, this episode triggered me so much the moment the prince AND the elf forced Lyfa they both became the enemy for me why the f both Seika and Lyfa were talking normaly with them after that? I would be like "if u ever go to war, i will join the other side" and if they tried to capture me i would go on a rampage or something. He even wanted to kill the dragon afterwards for king power, he should have gone to the dragon and tell it he wanted to kill her and just destroy the kingdom. Actually negative IQ every1 |
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the_cure said: My statement stands. He looks a lot more shady in the anime compared to the novel, which makes more sense, because he starts saying crazy shit.LostSpectre said: I don't really see how any of that makes him look better, and I can't tell you what is true/false in the anime, but it's much different in the novel. If he would be 'bad', he wouldn't treat his harem the way he does. If there would be a character temporarily turning 'bad', it would be the prince's elf Lize until she realizes that Seika cannot be that evil just because spirits avoid him. During the signing the contract scene the prince said: "I heard what Lize said. I don't understand what makes Seika dangerous, but I can't let you stay with a dangerous master." He is essentially head over heels for Yifa and uses the argument of his elf, Lize, which he doesn't even understand, as further justification to free her from her evil master. He basically doesn't even care to understand what it means. He 'loves' Yifa and his trustworthy elf stating that this guy is evil is all he needs to strengthen his resolve to get her into his harem. And Lize just wants to save one of her kin from Seika and helps because she is convinced that Seika is an evil being since the spirits avoid him. But Lize resolves the matter by herself and steps in at the end educating the prince and siding with Seika since she still has a functioning brain compared to the now obsessed and mislead (by her) prince^^ Lize basically realizes that she made a mistake and owns up for it at the end. As a sign of her actually good intentions and in order to make up for her blunder she even gave Yifa some light spirits. |
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| That guy is not fit to be a prince what so ever. That scene before Seika showed up on the dragon was actually bad like they were talking about freedom yet were forcing Efa to join. That Prince needed that talking to as well. He needs to know how to run a country before he even does anything else. That elf lady that is always around the prince has some sense at least. Seems like we got the main group of bad guys, on their way to kill the hero. Lets see what happens! Even tho he still hasn't caught on to her feelings yet (like when she was describing the type of guy she would marry, she was literally describing Seika), Seika redeemed himself from last episode!! |
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| that was very unfortunate for that man. he wasn't given the chance to be divided up equally post mortem; he was sliced to pieces while still alive...ouch! and damn that prince, he was freaking useless and only after making himself look good, no wonder he was duped by that Zekt dude. |
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| guh... alot of these recent isekai/reincanation/OPMC pseudo harem's aren't trying to make the girls simp material theyre particularly cute in this show though |
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LostSpectre said: Did you not watch the episode 8 at all? What do you mean baseless he LITERALLY TOLD HER it would be an honor for her to be in prince's harem. Unless you don't know what "harem" is for.MeanEYE said: The majority of your implications here are baseless though. I just dropped the show the very moment when MC said it would be an honor to have her spread cheeks for prince's entertainment and be his fucktoy. How dense is he not to understand she likes him. This MC is so divorced from reality and writers are trying their best to cover it with "he's a good guy" rhetoric it's making me want to vomit into my own shoes and then kick their ass. There's nothing more for me to see here and this episode is proof of it. I skimmed through it just to validate my decision and there's nothing redeeming in it.  |
MeanEYEMar 4, 2023 3:45 PM
| "Those that want him divide him equally." Damn. |
| Don't want to see that prince ever again, dumb retard. |
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| solid episode !!! that next villains for seika reveal seems pretty though !! |
| The princes is not like he is a evil guy. He is just too idiotic and naive, typical nobility that they can't do wrong and they really think they are doing the right thing with a smile on their faces. They are the worst. The new antagonist group looks interesting. |
| With the elf being so pushy on the terrace about Seika, I'd have refused to even go on her harem tour. I'd have flat out told her I have no interest, stay in your lane and out my business. Angry_By_Default said: dude, this episode triggered me so much the moment the prince AND the elf forced Lyfa they both became the enemy for me why the f both Seika and Lyfa were talking normaly with them after that? I would be like "if u ever go to war, i will join the other side" and if they tried to capture me i would go on a rampage or something. He even wanted to kill the dragon afterwards for king power, he should have gone to the dragon and tell it he wanted to kill her and just destroy the kingdom. Actually negative IQ every1 That is pretty much spot on my reaction too, lol. What infuriated me the most was how afterward at the end Yifa tells the prince "I'm honored but refuse". What?? They cut you to forcefully take your blood to sign a contract you didn't want, and you're "honored"? I'd have been furious and hostile toward them from that point on. Especially the elf; she doesn't have the excuse the prince does of youthful naivety and lust. Then you have Seika apologizing for giving the prince a piece of his mind. I wanted to strangle him for being such a passive pushover (and strangle him a lot more for being too stupid to realize her feelings lol), though granted I don't think he knew the extent of what the prince and elf tried to do to Yifa. TheSekiryuutei said: The trashy elf: i guarantee that the prince is a great person Then literally tries to force her to join the harem with a forced contract when she says not, and wanted to kill the dragon just to get some kinda status and imprison seika because of not killing the dragon The elf sure can see the character of a person perfectly can't she? And then nothing happens as a rep-precaution of the actions that happened and acting like nothing happened at all? bruhh.. Yea, and the elf tries to handwave it as "well, the prince is inexperienced". Screw that; inexperience doesn't equate to shadiness. |
StrahanMar 6, 2023 2:36 PM
TheSekiryuutei said: Exactly this, the elf lady and prince (who cares what their names are at this point) are both terrible people. And with zero consequences or learning for them either, so they will continue to be manipulators and terrible people. Almost wanted to drop watching this but we are now past this arc and hoping the writing improves.The trashy elf: i guarantee that the prince is a great person Then literally tries to force her to join the harem with a forced contract when she says not, and wanted to kill the dragon just to get some kinda status and imprison seika because of not killing the dragon The elf sure can see the character of a person perfectly can't she? And then nothing happens as a rep-precaution of the actions that happened and acting like nothing happened at all? bruhh.. |
| like.. come on... wtf was this.. |
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| hahaha! oh no! with all those new enemies i just hope this isn't "history repeats itself" kinda thing! Seika lost a bit cool of himself huh... 5/5. |
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| At least the harem bullshit is over now. |
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Sharri said: I want to be a slave because I'm free to decide is probably the most retarded take on I've ever seen in any anime. slavery is now good again lmao |
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Byniavo said: Yeah....... that was pretty bad. I mean i get what they were trying to say there but yeah........ Definitely could've worded it better.Sharri said: I want to be a slave because I'm free to decide is probably the most retarded take on I've ever seen in any anime. slavery is now good again lmao |
Ishinashi83 said: *"Thank God" or "Thanks, God" is the correct phrase, not "thanks God". Maybe if you learn proper grammar and decency, you'll be less of a homophobic asshole.thanks God we avoided the boring rescue/forced marriage arc. Chad seyka  |
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| Bro wtf is wrong with Lize and this prince. Seika should've just taken her with him >:( I'm happy Yifa is getting more powerful but dude that seriously annoyed me lol that prince needs to go away. Seika shoulda just blown up the castle after they tried to arrest him after HELPING them! They fr went all that way to help them, and they almost got arrested for it, and Yifa was almost forced to sign a contract :( Overall this episode was honestly like a 3/5 for me. It was alright but dude Seika can just be so incompetent sometimes Also, we get a bit of an introduction to a weird set of bad guys near the end. Looking forward to seeing whatever the heck is going on with them |
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MeanEYE said: Bro that was honestly horrendous. Seika can be just so incompetent and dense. Not going to drop, but man that was tough to watchPaul said: I just dropped the show the very moment when MC said it would be an honor to have her spread cheeks for prince's entertainment and be his fucktoy. How dense is he not to understand she likes him. This MC is so divorced from reality and writers are trying their best to cover it with "he's a good guy" rhetoric it's making me want to vomit into my own shoes and then kick their ass. There's nothing more for me to see here and this episode is proof of it. I skimmed through it just to validate my decision and there's nothing redeeming in it.Well that was 2 terrible episodes. My point from last episode was basically further cemented with how shit the prince's character is, personality wise and written wise. At the very least they didn't try to go with some NTR attempt route. Please, no more Ps2 graphic dragons. |
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Alkimia said: I didn't want to bother with it anymore. Honestly I have smarter things to do with my time and we are close to end of the season. It won't get magically great all of the sudden, instead I fully expect them to double-down on stupidity.MeanEYE said: Bro that was honestly horrendous. Seika can be just so incompetent and dense. Not going to drop, but man that was tough to watchI just dropped the show the very moment when MC said it would be an honor to have her spread cheeks for prince's entertainment and be his fucktoy. How dense is he not to understand she likes him. This MC is so divorced from reality and writers are trying their best to cover it with "he's a good guy" rhetoric it's making me want to vomit into my own shoes and then kick their ass. There's nothing more for me to see here and this episode is proof of it. I skimmed through it just to validate my decision and there's nothing redeeming in it. |
| Oh great, more clowns showed up (at the end). Efa is partly elf, and Seika may well be partly demon as speculated. This episode IMO foreshadowed the end of the story. That it'll be Efa (just like ancestor elf) who'll save Seika once he inevitably goes demon-mode for whatever reason - in far future. |
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