Blue Lock
| that's why episode 1 showed the importance of teamwork between yoichi and that sleeping guy. |
| Pretty sure Salah carried Egypt on his own to the world cup in 2018. It's a proof that sometimes one superstar player is enough to change a whole team, even if obviously they would never win the world cup. Plus Norway is in Europe while Japan is in Asia, it's different levels of competition. |
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| Exactly what I was thinking. Haaland is arguably the greatest striker in the world right now but at the end of the day football is a TEAM sport there's only so much a striker can do if the service from his teammates are not there - i.e. Norway not even qualifying for the world cup despite having one of the best strikers in the world. However having a full team of world class players makes a massive difference - i.e. Man City this season, where Haaland has scored 15 goals in just 9 games in the Premier league thanks to the likes of players like Kevin de Bruyne. ALL 11 players are integral to the success of a team and great players bring out the best in each other; having a team of average players and the best striker isn't going to get you anywhere. At the end of the day football is a team sport and TEAMWORK > individualistic egoism - I'm sorry if I'm rambling but I just can't take this anime seriously as a football anime especially considering that it's released after Ao Ashi. |
| dude that anime blew my mind. love it so far. |
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| EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING!! |
danielsalt said: SA_fin said: Exactly what I was thinking. Haaland is arguably the greatest striker in the world right now but at the end of the day football is a TEAM sport there's only so much a striker can do if the service from his teammates are not there - i.e. Norway not even qualifying for the world cup despite having one of the best strikers in the world. However having a full team of world class players makes a massive difference - i.e. Man City this season, where Haaland has scored 15 goals in just 9 games in the Premier league thanks to the likes of players like Kevin de Bruyne. ALL 11 players are integral to the success of a team and great players bring out the best in each other; having a team of average players and the best striker isn't going to get you anywhere. At the end of the day football is a team sport and TEAMWORK > individualistic egoism - I'm sorry if I'm rambling but I just can't take this anime seriously as a football anime especially considering that it's released after Ao Ashi. Man, you're wasting your words. Blue Lock is a work of fiction and the entire idea of egoism is just convenient to the plot. No one is arguing that egoism is effective in a sport that is obviously a team sport. I guess you're right, maybe I had the wrong expectations coming into it. I just expected the fiction to be somewhat grounded to reality but it seems like we're getting some form of battle royale involving egotustical strikers rather than a football anime. I guess I should have actually read the synopsis instead of getting excited that there was another 'football' anime this year. My bad. |
| This is a pretty dumb topic. 1) Blue Lock would NEVER exist in the first place because of all the logistical, ethical ,etc. problems of making hundreds of highschool athletes compete in an extreme sports competition over months and months. Like they didnt even know what they were selected for until they got there lmao. Arguing this isnt realistic is redundant. 2) IF you talk within this story's logic, the whole point is that they are basically trying to find a superstar Forward in which they say Japan lacks amongst, keyword amongst, other things too. |
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| Blue Lock's logic is flawed, but they did mention that Japan has first-rate teamwork, which other countries like Norway don't have. And look at the current Japanese squad, they have great defenders like Tomiyasu and great midfielders like Kubo But for forwards? They don't have anyone exceptionally quality ones. Blue Lock's project is to give birth to the best striker they ever had, with nothing to do with the whole squad of national team. |
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| I think I'm gonna consume it on a fiction basis because no matter how good you become as a forward, you're not gonna carry a whole nation by yourself. You need those awesome players in the back as well. It is such dumb logic in this anime where like they're saying, Don't give a fuck about your team, just think about yourself and play for yourself. So fucking DUMB!!! At the same time, I guess they're looking for a forward in this. So, it can make sense if that's the only thing they're looking for. But, hey I'm gonna see how it actually goes... |
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em_doubleyou said: You can only really enjoy this series if you 'abandon common sense', like that Ego guy said. I'm just concerned for the people who get their first exposure on football / soccer through the series. Exactly my concern. Yeah it's a fun show, but it's gonna turn a ton of Japanese kids into assholes who suck at soccer. |
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| yeah well it is just an anime so it works. you can't do anything without good teammates irl obviously. also thank god haaland isn't from belgium with de bruyne bc there'd be no point in even playing a world cup. just give em the trophy lmao |
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| Don't quote me on this, but I think Ego said something like" Japan has quality players but all they're missing is a world-class striker". That's where Blue lock comes in. Obviously, a world-class striker doesn't guarantee you trophies as we see with that lesser North London team that has 0 major trophies in more than a decade. A world-class striker puts Japan on the map, It could make them serious contenders for the world cup. Everything is kinda exaggerated to fit with the theme of becoming an egoist but I think the Blue lock project is something I wouldn't mind having in real life tbh. |
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danielsalt said: I don't know what you're trying to argue here, but there are literally real-life players that have made superb careers because of a big ego and an obsession with being the best player, some of which were even mentioned in the first episode of Blue lock. Some people would argue that a striker needs to think for himself in certain situations and I thought Blue lock has done a good job in showing that thus far.SA_fin said: Exactly what I was thinking. Haaland is arguably the greatest striker in the world right now but at the end of the day football is a TEAM sport there's only so much a striker can do if the service from his teammates are not there - i.e. Norway not even qualifying for the world cup despite having one of the best strikers in the world. However having a full team of world class players makes a massive difference - i.e. Man City this season, where Haaland has scored 15 goals in just 9 games in the Premier league thanks to the likes of players like Kevin de Bruyne. ALL 11 players are integral to the success of a team and great players bring out the best in each other; having a team of average players and the best striker isn't going to get you anywhere. At the end of the day football is a team sport and TEAMWORK > individualistic egoism - I'm sorry if I'm rambling but I just can't take this anime seriously as a football anime especially considering that it's released after Ao Ashi. Man, you're wasting your words. Blue Lock is a work of fiction and the entire idea of egoism is just convenient to the plot. No one is arguing that egoism is effective in a sport that is obviously a team sport. |
| Arteta's Tricky Reds! |
| Thank god I am not the only one who realized how flawed the premise of this show is. Not just Haaland, but Lewandowski, Drogba, Lukaku, Ibrahimovic, all of them A class strikers, all of them haven't won the wold cup. Gee I wonder why? Maybe it's too early to judge and there's some kind of a twist coming but I'd like my shows to at least make a little bit of sense to help with the suspension of disbelief. |
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| This is less a sports anime and more a death game sorta anime, like Tomodachi Game. |
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| Whaaaaaaaaaaaat are you trying to tell me anime isn't realistic!?!? It never crossed my mind before you made this post. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
ESVFELIX7 said: SA_fin said: Exactly what I was thinking. Haaland is arguably the greatest striker in the world right now but at the end of the day football is a TEAM sport there's only so much a striker can do if the service from his teammates are not there - i.e. Norway not even qualifying for the world cup despite having one of the best strikers in the world. However having a full team of world class players makes a massive difference - i.e. Man City this season, where Haaland has scored 15 goals in just 9 games in the Premier league thanks to the likes of players like Kevin de Bruyne. ALL 11 players are integral to the success of a team and great players bring out the best in each other; having a team of average players and the best striker isn't going to get you anywhere. At the end of the day football is a team sport and TEAMWORK > individualistic egoism - I'm sorry if I'm rambling but I just can't take this anime seriously as a football anime especially considering that it's released after Ao Ashi. Obviously,this is anime and top players like messi and ronaldo in their prime could easily impact and win some matches by themselves but not all though they are both are egoists and hence have been dominating football since 2006. I liked the first ep and after it finishes airing I'd definitely read the manga. Ronaldo is an egoist but I wouldn't say Messi is an egoist. Although both have been the best player for the last 15 or so years neither have been able to win the World cup. They have both been brilliant for Real Madrid and Barcelona respectively in their prime winning countless trophies but they were bever able to fully translate their abilities with their comparitively weaker national teams when it came to the World cup. |
| You are comparing Norway that last time reached World Cup was from like 24 years and japan that in last five world cups they were in top 16 of the whole 100+ countries in the world there times? Now imagine a team with players capable of being in top 16 and they have a machine sticker better than haaland million time that can score each match three to four goals even with players that don’t have that quality of pass and assist? Yea it work this is japan that is better than Norway and this the sticker from blue lock that is better than haaland. |
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| The Blue Lock project wouldn't be approved in the first place. Executing concepts not feasible in real life is part of what makes animation so appealing don't you think? This series stands out because it's extreme, not even the characters behave like regular humans. |
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vinowo22 said: Exatcly but Blue Lock fans still think this is the "most real depiction" of the sport...If having the best striker in the world gave a country the chance of winning the world cup then why while having haaland, Norway couldn't even classify in a group with turkey. Good teams have a balance between team work and individual skill, try good names without team work and you get a team like PSG. People who know about football, what do you think? |
Hashiriya_weeb87 said: some say?? brother it was the biggest robbery ever, there is a reason why that guy isnt a referee anymoreAs I said before the weakest or second weakest continent in world of football is unfortunately Asia Which ironic has the most population in the world haha But it’s just football has been slow to develop over there I mean back in 2002 World Cup japan and South Korea where hosts and they had average players and yet beat Italy and Spain… by penalties lol… Controversially…. Some say South Korea paid the ref lol but those Italian fans…. Get angry at every thing |
vinowo22 said: If having the best striker in the world gave a country the chance of winning the world cup then why while having haaland, Norway couldn't even classify in a group with turkey. Good teams have a balance between team work and individual skill, try good names without team work and you get a team like PSG. People who know about football, what do you think? as far as I understood, they say it's possible to train good all football roles, but the strikers need talent, what the whole point of this is. Not to create a team but find the best striker. |
Syzler said: Pre_Yum said: I think I'm gonna consume it on a fiction basis because no matter how good you become as a forward, you're not gonna carry a whole nation by yourself. You need those awesome players in the back as well. It is such dumb logic in this anime where like they're saying, Don't give a fuck about your team, just think about yourself and play for yourself. So fucking DUMB!!! At the same time, I guess they're looking for a forward in this. So, it can make sense if that's the only thing they're looking for. But, hey I'm gonna see how it actually goes... Its almost if they already have a national team and they just need a good striker hmm It's almost as if I already mentioned something like this in my original reply but I guess people don't know how to read. |
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