Edens Zero
| I know it is from the same mangaka as Fairytail, but not matter how I look at it. It's just Fairytail with a new skin. |
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| No… Hito is just reusing the same character designs from Rave Master not Fairy Tail. People need to stop forgetting Hiro’s original series. |
| How is it failed when it is successful in Japan?LOL |
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| Idc I like it as of now. This group-adventure vibe is what made me love One Piece and Fairy Tail, and that's what makes me like Edens Zero too. |
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| I watched 10 episodes from this so far and in my opinion it is better than early episodes of fairy tale. Also, there is no fillers ALso, this anime is not like Fairy tale. Only similarities is that some characters look same, but story is different and this takes place in future (has spaceship and modern tech) |
| Come on dude you don't have to used that words... |
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| It's anything but failed. |
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Dragevard said: I know it is from the same mangaka as Fairytail, but not matter how I look at it. It's just Fairytail with a new skin. Its been half of season still retards talk about fairy tail rip off 🤦 |
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Dragevard said: Is this a failed Fairytail clone? More accurate description would be "superior Fairy Tail clone". |
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Oiku said: Now with FT, what did the series offer at the time? Although at first FT was compared to OP because had similarities in the characters (gildarts) and also because it's from the fantasy genre. FT quickly showed its "originality". At that time, even now, the series stands out as one of the best fantasy series. Has also been considered one of the best shonen from 2008 to 2015. Competing with bleach, naruto, OP, HxH, KHR, etc and many times surpassing them in some periods of time. So if a reader didn't read FT. then if they could miss something. When and in what way did FT surpass bleach, naruto, OP or HxH? In both score and popularity FT is the lowest of them. I have seen all of them and think FT is the worst one, and i am not the only one who thinks that way. |
| If it did failed to be a fairy tail clone, then thats a good thing right. |
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Oiku said: Delisches said: When and in what way did FT surpass bleach, naruto, OP or HxH? In both score and popularity FT is the lowest of them. I have seen all of them and think FT is the worst one, and i am not the only one who thinks that way. Here the sources, there are more rankings on the Anime News Network page: Top-Selling Manga in Japan by Series: 2010 https://www.animenewsNetwork.com/news/2010-11-30/top-selling-manga-in-japan-by-series/2010 About.com's Deb Aoki Listed Fairy Tail As The Best New Shōnen Manga of 2008 https://www.webcitation.org/6DtJu9fgL?url=http://manga.about.com/od/recommendedreading/tp/2008BestNewManga.htm At the 2009 Industry Awards for The Society For The Promotion of Japanese Animation, The Organizers of Anime Expo, Fairy Tail Was Named Best Comedy Manga https://www.animenewsNetwork.com/news/2009-07-03/2009-spja-industry-award-winners-announced ICV2 Releases List of Top 10 Sleeve Franchises in Spring 2017 https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-07-28/icv2-releases-list-of-top-10-manga-franchises-in-spring-2017/.119494 Japanese Comic Ranking, May 15-21 2017 https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-05-27/japanese-comic-ranking-may-15-21/.116675 New York Times Manga Best Seller List, August 7-13 2016 https://www.animenewsNetwork.com/news/2016-08-19/new-york-times-manga-best-seller-list-august-7-13/.105570 Japanese Comic Ranking, March 24-30 2014 https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-04-02/japanese-comic-ranking-march-24-30 Top-Selling Manga in Japan by Series: 2013 (First Half) https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-06-02/top-selling-manga-in-japan-by-series/2013-first-half Japanese Comic Ranking, October 28-November 3 2008 https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2008-11-06/japanese-comic-ranking-october-28-november-3 Japanese Comic Ranking, March 11-17 2019 https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2019-04-03/japanese-comic-raking-march-11-17/.145355 Didn't know you were talking about manga. However it is not hard to be top x in a weekly, monthly list. It depends how many weeks a manga vol has already been released, how many vol there have been released in the timeframe and if they even released a vol at all ( cries in HxH). You should use a list with overall sales if you want to compare the popularity of a manga. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_manga |
DelischesJul 10, 2021 4:41 PM
LordChuckMoe221 said: Delisches said: FT is still among Big 4. You don't leave that despite what happened to it otherwise we could say same about about Naruto and Bleach on their own issues and even some thing they are more compare to FT. Also MAL isn't accurate to use as a source when we know how biased people are.There still those who prefer it over the others and it's not one person either. Though we getting off topic on here as this isn't talk on different series especially these.When and in what way did FT surpass bleach, naruto, OP or HxH? In both score and popularity FT is the lowest of them. I have seen all of them and think FT is the worst one, and i am not the only one who thinks that way. I have never heard the term Big 4 before. And why is is one of the biggest anime and manga websites not an accurate source, this is basically the best source you can get. There is no FT bias an MAL, because you can find people how dislike FT everywere on the internet: reddit youtube twitter etc. I am not trying to sh*t on FT, i think the show is ok, but there are valid reasons why people dislike it. |
DelischesJul 10, 2021 4:39 PM
| yeah true that. i mean yeah |
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| it only has similar designs,the story is totally different. you all just say that because they look alike and they have friendship theme Naruto,HunterxHunter,Gintama and more has friendship themes,stop crying. |
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Oiku said: Delisches said: Didn't know you were talking about manga. However it is not hard to be top x in a weekly, monthly list. It depends how many weeks a manga vol has already been released, how many vol there have been released in the timeframe and if they even released a vol at all ( cries in HxH). You should use a list with overall sales if you want to compare the popularity of a manga. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_manga you did not see all the links right? although I put many that were weekly there are others that are annual ._. look at these that are more general Top-Selling Manga in Japan by Series: 2013 https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-12-01/top-selling-manga-in-japan-by-series/2013 Manga Top 100 Most Popular https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/ratings-manga.php?top50=popular&n=100. The OFFICIAL Top 100 Manga of All Time https://www.listchallenges.com/the-official-top-100-manga-of-all-time Best Manga of All Time https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/7512.Best_Manga_of_All_Time From these links I can see that FT surpased bleach with sales in 2013, but like you can see in my link FT is still behind bleach in lifetime sales. Then there is a link were bleach is also behind FT. In another link FT is before HxH on this random booksite. On another top 100 list FT is behind all four of them. I will give you bleach, everyone started to hate bleach after the last arcs. But on none of these links surpased FT one piece or naruto. |
Oiku said: Delisches said: I have never heard the term Big 4 before. And why is is one of the biggest anime and manga websites not an accurate source, this is basically the best source you can get. There is no FT bias an MAL, because you can find people how dislike FT everywere on the internet: reddit youtube twitter etc. I am not trying to sh*t on FT, i think the show is ok, but there are valid reasons why people dislike it. The term big 4 or big 5 is well known. They are the most extensive and best-known series of both manga and anime. In some sites or rankings they place the big 4 as: OP, Naruto, Bleach and DB or OP, Naruto, Bleach and FT and the big 5 as: OP, Naruto, Bleach, FT and DB or OP, Naruto, Bleach, FT and Reborn just look for it. Example: from the big 5 only FT and DB have a complete original translation into Spanish (I think FT is missing the third season and dragon cry. Although according to a Netflix report. It is already in the process of translation) Links big 4/5: https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1690480 https://sites.google.com/site/topanimeftw123/home/topshounenanime If the term is really that well known I would have heard it before. I asked some friends on discord and none of them knew the term. The guys who created this term seem to not know what the Big 3 are, the most popular shonen manga at the beginning of 2000 until mid 2000. When the Big 3 were a thing, FT just started. Hitman was not as popular as the the Big 3, it also got its anime later. DB was long over when the Big 3 were a thing. |
Delisches said: If the term is really that well known I would have heard it before. I asked some friends on discord and none of them knew the term. The guys who created this term seem to not know what the Big 3 are, the most popular shonen manga at the beginning of 2000 until mid-2000. When the Big 3 were a thing, FT just started. Hitman was not as popular as the Big 3, it also got its anime later. DB was long over when the Big 3 were a thing. The big 3 were overwhelmingly known through all the 2000s (Mainly OP, Naruto, and Bleach, with a bit of DB in the middle), it could also be extended to the big 4 or 5. We cannot be blamed because younger people, that were little kids at that time, can't possibly remember that! The Big 3 were a hit in all developed world (that had access mainly to animes) If you don't know that or don't remember that it's your lack of knowledge! And it will not be because of that that the "big nr" term wasn't real, only just for the youngsters to be good with themselves -.- ANYWHO!!... LordChuckMoe221 said: Infernalization said: I think it is obvious we don't use MAL as how judge series given how it can be biased on how people can vote. Should see what they do when Animes try to go higher especially near FMA series.Just an assumption, but he might've thought it failed because of the MAL score. I am probably wrong tho. That's a problem on MAL nowadays. If you see the people that are willingly downrating shows with overly low scores (1 - 3) they are all (or a major part of them) very new to MAL (from 2019 or soo to this day) which means that they are very new to animes or very new reviewing animes normally basing the animes with their personal tastes, being an anime they like a 7 or more and all the others 3 or less (normally 1). A major part of those guys came from Twitter, Reddit, and many other places with too many toxic people, and that is transported to everything they do on MAL (sh*ty reviews, sh*ty scores, sh*ty forum replays, sh*ty talk, sh*ty etc). There was a time that MAL was very good place to see if an anime was good to watch or not... At this point... Don't base yourself on those reviews! Good shows are downrated because ppl don't like the author, or previous works, or similar works from other authors or even other sources (What's with every isekai anime needs to be compared to SAO??). The worst part it's that those comments are showing on the front page of the anime page. Right now the reviews (not all of them though) are a sh*t show of how dumb.zzes people are! |
r_justoJul 12, 2021 2:35 PM
| For the ones that like to bother others (like me) with "you should read the manga/LN", please stop. I don't read mangas, I will NOT read mangas, I will not listen to what manga readers complain in adaptation to the anime counterpart, I only watch anime except in very few and specific situations. |
| I'm not a big fan of Fairytail. Actually, I hate it. Friendship or the meaning of friendship should not be a plot device / Deus ex machina. I'm more worried about Shiki being a Marry Sue than a ripoff of Natsu, (or vice versa). We got a cameo of the other cast members quite early making their exit. Perhaps it's symbolism for the disembarkation from the idea of the FT universe, replaced by the docking into this one. The mangaka can't design characters outside of his niche work: this is an emulation or a review-based upgrade of Fairytail. I think the mangaka worked on certain things that went wrong or roadblocked FairyTail's story. The environment change from land to space for instance: he'll never run into a roadblock unless it's writer's-block. That being said, the mangaka cannot design outside of his niche. If that's limited to characters, we'll soon find out. |
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Delisches said: LordChuckMoe221 said: FT is still among Big 4. You don't leave that despite what happened to it otherwise we could say same about about Naruto and Bleach on their own issues and even some thing they are more compare to FT. Also MAL isn't accurate to use as a source when we know how biased people are.There still those who prefer it over the others and it's not one person either. Though we getting off topic on here as this isn't talk on different series especially these. I have never heard the term Big 4 before. And why is is one of the biggest anime and manga websites not an accurate source, this is basically the best source you can get. There is no FT bias an MAL, because you can find people how dislike FT everywere on the internet: reddit youtube twitter etc. I am not trying to sh*t on FT, i think the show is ok, but there are valid reasons why people dislike it. 100 Years Quest -> Alvarez Empire Final arc was trash or the last half at very least Many people didn´t like that arc I also think Zeref´s rematch fight was the worst fight of them all Bleach had the same issues I´ve read the manga but I still like both series Canon Sequel of Fairy Tail ( 100 Years Quest ) is fixing some of the main series issues Less Nakama power More Logical wins Power Scaling is a bit better not messed up as Alvarez was Characters actual losing. The first 11 chapters or so of the sequel may give Alvarez vibes but it isn´t like that. I recommend it and the villians are not treated as Jokes like Spriggans 12 |
MiraStraussFan99Jul 13, 2021 4:24 AM
| Edens Zero is a progressive adventure toward a certain goal (along with new ones on the way) while Fairy Tail was a more passive type of story. Arcs build up on the previous ones in EZ while in FT they went to the guild to take missions and along the way we got hints at the real story about Zeref and Acnologia which was being slightly focused around most arcs, like Tower of Heaven and Erza & Jellal's story, or Gray and Deliora story used to foreshadow Zeref. Gildartz foreshadowed Acno... but even with that build up in FT, EZ is more focused. That core difference is the biggest difference between them. Fairy Tail in a sense used to be very enjoyable of a shounen story as the author is known for creating a rich world with different types of characters, but they are kind of like a stock market type of breed - mass produced, but enjoyable. When Edens Zero ends it will most likely be a pretty good shounen to binge with how well it sets itself up for the future, with foreshadowing and intriguing events. The way the cast of characters are introduced into the story is also pretty original, like Weisz's past-future storyline. |
k11chiJul 14, 2021 12:34 AM
| It is inferior to Fairy Tail. |
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