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Dec 6, 10:16 PM

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The Big 3 is Naruto , Bleach and One Piece.
But The Big 5 with the addition of Katekyo Hitman Reborn and Fairy Tail . Can someone tell me when the Big 5 is formed?
 
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Once upon a time, 5 manga artist were bored with their lives. They were miserable, and they also wanted the people around the world to be miserable.So each one of these artists made their own manga and they wrote these manga in such a way that can only be describe as cliche, boring, and full of cheesy nakama powers. Legend has it, that to this day, only one of these repulsive manga are still on going.
 
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This big 3 and big 5 thing is just something started by fans in the West.

In Japan it was always One Piece and two other popular shounen.

Naruto was always one of the popular shounen. The other most popular shounen cycled between a few such as:

Bleach, Beelzebub, Hitman Reborn, Rave, Fairy Tail, etc.

But all of them were a lot less popular than OP
 
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Do you mean the big 6? Since you forgot about Gintama


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I doubt it will be "formed" at any point for several reasons. But the main one being that 4 of them had their source material end and depending on how you count Boruto 2-3 of them had their anime end.
Unless it's a fan thing I never heard about in which case I would have thought Hunter x hunter would have taken priority over KHR personally. (Not to say one is better than the other but one is clearly more popular)
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What about BEST 5??

- Gintama
- Fullmetal Alchemist
- Hunter X Hunter
- Attack on Titan
- Jojo Bizarre Adventure series

Hmm I think it's much better than that BIG 5.
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What about BEST 5??

- Gintama
- Fullmetal Alchemist
- Hunter X Hunter
- Attack on Titan
- Jojo Bizarre Adventure series

Hmm I think it's much better than that BIG 5.


I agree with you but replace aot with Rurouni Kenshin Dx
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NotThisShitAgain said:
What about BEST 5??

- Gintama
- Fullmetal Alchemist
- Hunter X Hunter
- Attack on Titan
- Jojo Bizarre Adventure series

Hmm I think it's much better than that BIG 5.
Best 5 . More like Rival 5 since all the fanbase hate each other
 
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Weren't they called that way because of them being published in weekly shounen jump at the same time and also be lengthy manga?
 
Dec 7, 12:13 AM

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Lol I love katekyo hitman reborn but when the fuk where they even on the big 5 list?
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Shiroyasha_97 said:
NotThisShitAgain said:
What about BEST 5??

- Gintama
- Fullmetal Alchemist
- Hunter X Hunter
- Attack on Titan
- Jojo Bizarre Adventure series

Hmm I think it's much better than that BIG 5.
Best 5 . More like Rival 5 since all the fanbase hate each other
who hates who, i never saw hate in gintama's fanbase?
 
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Huh funny. Up until just now, I know all of the so-called Big 5 except for Katekyo Hitman Reborn. Well anyways, not sure why those anime were termed but it's probably due to them being popular, long-running Shonens.
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Salamak said:
Shiroyasha_97 said:
Best 5 . More like Rival 5 since all the fanbase hate each other
who hates who, i never saw hate in gintama's fanbase?




Gintama's fanbase is peaceful. And JoJo's is friendly. Wuff
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LalatinaDarkness said:
Salamak said:
who hates who, i never saw hate in gintama's fanbase?




Gintama's fanbase is peaceful. And JoJo's is friendly. Wuff
what do they fight on in aot and fma fanbase?
 
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I suspect this was from 2009 and 2010 when ft and reborn is airing and the big 3. They also have notoriously large episodes. Sad that gintama is forgotten though.
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The DB franchise has been out long before any of these shows and still holds relevance to very day. Why was it never apart of this "Big #" list?
 
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There's no Big #.
Simply it formed when a Manga is a shounen jump that released weekly.

The story mostly similiar to each other by i mean a similiar it's basically the typical shounen you can find everywhere.
It's not a bad thing though.
 
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it's always about DB and OP, the reast is just other popular series... the whole big 3 or big 5 pretty much just western (or US maybe) thing... kinda funny how FT final volume barely break 200K.... bleach at least still in 500K...
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lets make it big 100 now.. every series that was serialized in shounen jump is up for grabs
 
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How the big 3/4/5 was formed? Well just the international market having limited access to anime back then, leading to a stark contrast in popularity between a handful of anime and the rest.

It has no basis in reality with the actual popularity of various anime in Japan at all.
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I use to consider them like that (except Faily tail, which wasn't around yet, thank god xD) when I was more of a teenager.
 
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No, it's Big 3. Don't include FT and Hitman. Those were the only ones that I genuinely enjoyed anyway (*abnormal love for mafia stuff*) . Plus, FT is split into 2 seasons and is newer, so it doesn't match with the characteristics of the Big 3.

Hitman isn't really popular, and if you wanna include Hitman, why isn't D. Gray Man included?
 
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Doraemon? remember them? no? oh you must be from west.
 
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No, it's Big 3. Don't include FT and Hitman. Those were the only ones that I genuinely enjoyed anyway (*abnormal love for mafia stuff*) . Plus, FT is split into 2 seasons and is newer, so it doesn't match with the characteristics of the Big 3.

Hitman isn't really popular, and if you wanna include Hitman, why isn't D. Gray Man included?


I 100% Agree, this 3 should be enough.
 
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Never even heard of Big 5 before, just Big 3.
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Once upon a time, 5 manga artist were bored with their lives. They were miserable, and they also wanted the people around the world to be miserable.So each one of these artists made their own manga and they wrote these manga in such a way that can only be describe as cliche, boring, and full of cheesy nakama powers. Legend has it, that to this day, only one of these repulsive manga are still on going.
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All the fools who go around hating on everything should stick to them eighties anime.

After all isn't that the golden age of TV anime.
 
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Aren't you the one who formed the Big 5? Yeah, seems pretty original to me.
 
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No, it's Big 3. Don't include FT and Hitman. Those were the only ones that I genuinely enjoyed anyway (*abnormal love for mafia stuff*) . Plus, FT is split into 2 seasons and is newer, so it doesn't match with the characteristics of the Big 3.

Hitman isn't really popular, and if you wanna include Hitman, why isn't D. Gray Man included?
Dude Hitman ended in like 2014 and that's the big reason nobody talks about these days.
All the fools who go around hating on everything should stick to them eighties anime.

After all isn't that the golden age of TV anime.
 
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The DB franchise has been out long before any of these shows and still holds relevance to very day. Why was it never apart of this "Big #" list?

Because of the time period.

There was a time span, between 2000 and 2010, when the top mangas in weekly shounen jump were: One Piece, Naruto, and Bleach. Top for both japanese reception and for western fanbases.
The Big 3 stuff originated from the manga fanbases, not from the anime fanbases.

Dragon ball stopped being published in shounen jump in 1995. Dragon ball super started releasing again only in the 2015 (and it is no longer in weekly shounen anyway) That's why.


"Big 3" is a term which was used in the 2000-2010 to describe the top mangas in the top manga magazine(weekly shounen jump), and it has sense in that time frame.
Other uses of it with the current shows, are reusing the same words, but the meaning is different.
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lol where did even reborn came from
I've never seen anyone put it into a "big x" list before
 
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That big 5 was probably formed in a period when people were looking for uninteresting works, with lots of action, boring adventure, noisy characters screaming the names of their techniques. A period when good works didn't exist either, when 20th Century Boys, Nausicaa, Oyasumi Punpun had been erased from people's memory. A sad period, I must say, but has this really changed?

Today you have My Hero Academia, Black Clover, Boruto and in a few years you probably have an indigestible mixture of all these works you have already seen.

Same for anime series, why is Evangelion so popular when you have series like [insert what you want]?

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Some say Big 3 but I only heard Big 4 but not 5. Anyway, A big 5 is formed by the number of fans watching it. Later, you suddenly hear BIG ANIME composing of the most popular anime that is currently or done airing.
 
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This isn´t a term. It never was a term "The Big 3" was a term that was barely used and it probably only became relavant because Gigguk popularized it beyond the corners of dusty forums.

During the early and mid 2000´s The big 3 were internationally popular enough around the same level of popularity to be recognized by a considerable amount of people .
They were/are also infamous for their terible fanbases who called each other out in dick measuring contests of whose series is the best, or which main character is the coolest.
Abandoning one fandom for the other and so on.
Many had also shared fandoms who simply exclaimed that they like two of them or all of them.

Aside from being released in WSJ that´s where their similarities end.
People didn´t knew at the time about Japan Manga sales or even cared about that bullshit. What mattered was the devotion to their fandom and the rivalries of one another, which was also dumb.

Many fandoms till this day try to elevate the perception of their favorite series by associating it with the Big 3, calling it Big 4, Big 5, Big 11. It´s pointless and dumb.

Fact is: The Big 3 became associated as the succesors of Dragon Ball, which is the biggest, most influential Anime and Manga franchise outside of Japan. No contest.
None of them reached it´s size outside of Japan, though One Piece has it beaten in their homecountry, but it´s an american term to begin with.

Fact is: Since the Big 3. No such competition between a triangle or even two different Anime and Manga has occured. People are free to invent terms, but it won´t be the Big 3. It´ll be something new that´s equally as meaningless.
 
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More importantly, why is that bleach and KHR got cancelled before their last 1-2 arcs in anime format, while fairy tail, for e.g which didn't sell too much better didn't?
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So this thread is 'Big 5 in people opinion'.

Meh, talk about 'Big', i choose Gintama for the option.

Haikyu or Shokugeki no Souma is the next maybe?

Hunter x Hunter is hard to choose because the 'hiatus' problem.
 
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Fact is: The Big 3 became associated as the succesors of Dragon Ball, which is the biggest, most influential Anime and Manga franchise outside of Japan. No contest.
None of them reached it´s size outside of Japan, though One Piece has it beaten in their homecountry, but it´s an american term to begin with.

Fact is: Since the Big 3. No such competition between a triangle or even two different Anime and Manga has occured. People are free to invent terms, but it won´t be the Big 3. It´ll be something new that´s equally as meaningless.

Great summary/definition.

In the current day, until there will be again fandoms growing huge and starting to border each other, the term will be just a ranking, missing the original sense of competition and rivality.

Manga Sales by Series
*1. 11,495,532 One Piece
*2. *6,622,781 Shingeki no Kyojin
*3. *6,184,214 Kingdom
*4. *5,852,310 Boku no Hero Academia
*5. *5,303,514 Tokyo Ghoul:re
*6. *5,067,939 Haikyuu!!

Light Novel Sales by Series
*1. *1,173,096 Sword Art Online
*2. **,960,418 Kono Subarashii Sekai ni Shukufuku wo!
*3. **,925,671 Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu
*4. **,809,636 Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei
(so many isekai up there in the light novel rankings)
https://myanimelist.net/news/53279056

All those series have their own fandoms, big or small, but they rarely enter in contact with each other, in the same way (one piece, naruto and bleach) did during the 2000-2010.
Nor any of those (excluding one piece and boku hero, and maybe Haikyuu!! ?) can clain any succession for the lineage of the top manga of weekly shounen jump (and by relation, the top manga serie of all japan).

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Zeando said:

Great summary/definition.

In the current day, until there will be again fandoms growing huge and starting to border each other, the term will be just a ranking, missing the original sense of competition and rivality.

Manga Sales by Series
*1. 11,495,532 One Piece
*2. *6,622,781 Shingeki no Kyojin
*3. *6,184,214 Kingdom
*4. *5,852,310 Boku no Hero Academia
*5. *5,303,514 Tokyo Ghoul:re
*6. *5,067,939 Haikyuu!!

Light Novel Sales by Series
*1. *1,173,096 Sword Art Online
*2. **,960,418 Kono Subarashii Sekai ni Shukufuku wo!
*3. **,925,671 Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu
*4. **,809,636 Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei
(so many isekai up there in the light novel rankings)
https://myanimelist.net/news/53279056

All those series have their own fandoms, big or small, but they rarely enter in contact with each other, in the same way (one piece, naruto and bleach) did during the 2000-2010.
Nor any of those (excluding one piece and boku hero, and maybe Haikyuu!! ?) can clain any succession for the lineage of the top manga of weekly shounen jump (and by relation, the top manga serie of all japan).


Alot of this even back in the day was projection tbh. Bleach only barely reached the heights of One Piece or Naruto in Japan and One Piece did the same in America.
People love to throw the word "west" around when in reality the One Piece fandom was far more formidable in the rest of the western hemisphere compared to what it used to be in the USA due to the dubbbing. Europe warmly welcomed it wih France being the second biggest consumer of Anime and Manga after Japan, despite rarely being asked on the matter.

The term was coined during the early 2000´sprobably in some American forum that based the 3 less on sale numbers and more on the rankings within WSJ. Where those 3 kept consistenly showing up at the top, with others coming in and falling out.
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Alot of this even back in the day was projection tbh.

Yup, it has always been an huge circlejerking, made louder and wider by the size of the fandoms involved. (and by the illusion posts on a forum matter anything for the world outside)

Maybe it's just an impression, but fandoms in the recent years aren't as loud nor as big, some are generally recognized as popular, but it's less frequent to see a stable and big group of people being focused on the same serie for a long span of time. (making discussions, fanarts, etc) There is a lot more fragmentation over many many series.
For the animes it may be caused by the shows themselves being averagely short and limited to few cours. The fandoms are born and die in the span of the airing time.

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if you talking about the big 5. I would say

1. Dragon Ball
2. Naruto
3. One Piece
4. Bleach
5. probably Fairy tail,
can also FMA, HunterxHunter, i'm pretty sure it's not Katekyo Hitman Reborn.

These anime have definitely a lot more popularity. Doesn't mean here the best but popular.

I agree with the user calling out the Big 3.
which are DB, Naruto and OP.
The big 5 is contested with other people.
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Zeando said:
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Alot of this even back in the day was projection tbh.

Yup, it has always been an huge circlejerking, made louder and wider by the size of the fandoms involved. (and by the illusion posts on a forum matter anything for the world outside)

Maybe it's just an impression, but fandoms in the recent years aren't as loud nor as big, some are generally recognized as popular, but it's less frequent to see a stable and big group of people being focused on the same serie for a long span of time. (making discussions, fanarts, etc) There is a lot more fragmentation over many many series.
For the animes it may be caused by the shows themselves being averagely short and limited to few cours. The fandoms are born and die in the span of the airing time.


The fandoms have become certainly smaller and less loud. The last upheaval that I would consider comparetively to the "Big 3 Hype". was AOT and before that SAO.

But SAO lost alot of it´s initial fire while AOT just became quiet. Mainly because as you´ve mentioned the series are limited to cours and not perpatually ongoing like the Big 3 used to be, but also because their appeal was spawned through the novelty of "original" content.

Which is an illusion due to the content surrounding the medium in it´s modern iteration. Look at Jojo and how it exploded within an adult fandom. It´s by far not as big as the other two examples, partially due to out there nature of the show, but also because of the audience´s size. Regardless my point is. When you associate Anime with pornography, magical girls, guys yelling at each other for gratuitous amounts of time before fighting each other in badly animated sequences or rainbow haired girls doing nothing , those "new" genre come off as unique to newcomers, but get dismissed once people exlore more of the medium, or get more experience with storytelling.
 
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When I read the title I expected this thread to be related to Yugioh... now I'm disapointed.

 
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pretty sure you made it OP

there never has been a big 5, and likely never will be
(and if there was, there's no way in hell fairy tail deserves to be there)

There's the big 3, which was a term the west created to describe One Piece, Naruto, and Bleach... but that's about it.

Not sure why you would want this "big 5" to exist anyway
 
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You are wrong. Its the BIG 100, bc you didnt add X and Y and Z


People dont call them BIG 5 or anything. They just were the most popular shonen around at the time. When you start getting into shonen (when most people are like 12-15) you probably will watch all the longer ones and like them
 
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Nothing more than Western folk lore... Used to label anime that are very popular and long running
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This just seems like FT was invited to be nice and KHR wants nothing to do with any of this.
 
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Glad to know I wasn't the only thinking it was about the Big 5 from Yu-gi-oh.
 
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It's the Big 3, not some bullshit 4 or 5.
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How is DBZ /s not in this shit list?
its waaay more popular than most of those shows combined
 
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People just adding whatever battle shows they want like always I see.
 
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