Shingeki no Kyojin Chapter 137 Discussion

electromagneto said:
Eren has been shown to get visibly angry whenever Mikasa treats him like her little brother/son though, so maybe Eren wants Mikasa to treat him in a different way? Who knows~

Besides, the word "family" can have more than one meaning. A union formed between husband and wife in marriage is also called a family, you know.

ItsNoux said:
The entire world is in war and still, some talk about Mikasa x Eren ship

Roowanx said:
What do you guys think happened between the eldians and marleyans on the fort? I honestly always had a feeling that the fort people are the only survivors left, and if the Alliance arrive after stopping Eren only to find out that everyone shot each other, it would be pretty depressing, would also give the "Mist" vibe that Isayama always talked about and it would mean Eren succeeded.

I also have a question, I still don't understand what Zeke meant in chapter 136 when he asked Armin "Did Ymir eat you too?" This question wasn't addressed again in chapter 137, but I still find it weird, I guess you can say Armin was captured (he didn't get eaten tho) by the okapi that Ymir was controlling, but we never saw Zeke get eaten by any titan so why did he ask that? Also where the hell was Zeke's real body anyway? He emerged from one of those spines on Eren's titan but I don't understand how. Did Ymir rebuild his body again? Why would she do that? Ymir is so confusing to me 😂 If she's helping the Alliance then why were the ancient titans controlled by her still attacking them? Even the okapi still went after Armin before he killed it. Seriously what is up with Ymir?

Roowanx said:
Also where the hell was Zeke's real body anyway? He emerged from one of those spines on Eren's titan but I don't understand how. Did Ymir rebuild his body again? Why would she do that? Ymir is so confusing to me 😂

If she's helping the Alliance then why were the ancient titans controlled by her still attacking them? Even the okapi still went after Armin before he killed it. Seriously what is up with Ymir?

Vinicius234 said:
If i dont recall badly, until around chapter 133 4 days had passed from the rumbling start. so if SGK globe is similar to earth in size i seriously doubt the rumbling have done the damage people imagine... more around 30-50%. If thats the case there are many humans alive, and if isayama is consistent the peace pro alliance believe is practically secure is delusion, an enormous asspull.

Unless the numbers get down to around only 20 % or less survivors, paradis is still in danger, huge danger.

electromagneto said:
As stated before in the previous chapters, the Alliance speculated that Zeke was still acting as a medium for Eren to use the Founder's abilities, and that he was hidden somewhere in the gigantic structure of Eren's Founding Titan. Their objective was to locate Zeke and kill him to terminate Eren's access to the Coordinate.

Armin has also gained Ymir's trust after his conversation with Zeke in the Paths realm in this chapter, as he (and Zeke) finally understands what and who Ymir actually is and what she wants (just like Eren in chapter 122).

Armin also managed to convince Zeke to "fight" once again for their cause. That's why Zeke decided to help by:

• summoning the previous Titan shifters to protect the Alliance from the mindless titans.
  
• ordering the Collosal Titans to stop the rumbling
  
• letting Levi decapitate him to terminate Eren's access to the Coordinate

TitanGotRekt said:
This chapter literally divided this fandom in half lmao. At least in MAL judging from the poll results. Also 1200+ votes? Holy shit, did that ever happen with an AoT chapter here?

Not sure If I should feel happy that LOTS of people are finally reading the AoT manga or whether be sad that the fandom is tearing itself apart in it's final moments.
In my 7 years of lurking in the fandom, this is the worst it has been. I just hope all of us can come together before the final moment comes. To me, AoT has always been phenomenal and this arc more so due to so many character moments than any of the previous arc. Hopefully, people will come to realize it soon.

zerokarasu said:


as long as it brings together character its fine if it ruin the story? its fine if its become "team avengers" full of asspull?,im fine if the ending is super tragic like everyone LITERALLY EVERYONE die,as long as it make sense,not full of asspull or talk no jutsu so that "the happy ending" happens,i want to see eldian got their freedom,but if its impossible and their enemy kill all of them then so be it.

TitanGotRekt said:


AoT has always been about characters more so than a 19 yo teen getting a definitive answer to a 2000 years of world problem. Pretty sure you are gonna be disappointed with the ending with that level of thinking as Isayama never once promised his readers of passing judgement in his work or a solution.

As for the so called asspulls, be honest here for a second. If you think what is happening recently is "asspull" then do give me the scientific logic behind eren's severed head conveniently falling in zeke's hand or better, how zeke somehow managed to bypass the vow without any sort of explanation or how eren somehow managed to break the shackles put by zeke in paths through pure rage. Feels awfully similar to recent chapters, doesn't it? heh.

All the mentioned things happened in paths dimension, so did the events in 137; a dimension which is shrouded in mystery since s1. Those aren't "plot holes" rather those are plot points required to push the plot forward, one could even say those are shounen tropes (Eren raging-Armin's plea for help,eren convincing ymir-armin convincing zeke). Not everything in a story is a 7d chess match but who am I kidding. You are one of those who are already hell bent on getting that akame ga kill ending. Also do indulge me in which way we are getting a "happy ending" my guy. Two prominent characters from both sides(Hange and Zeke) already died with 2 chapters left, the world is at least half destroyed, multiple important side characters like Magath,Shadis,Floch and people like Colt,porco,Pixis,Nile died in this arc alone. Please do check the definition of what is happy ending. It's gonna be a bittersweet one as Yams had hinted in his interviews.

But hey "Kill em all = 10/10", whatever floats your boat bud.

queenhinata said:
It's really looking like a 'the Alliance will win, everyone will unite, discrimination is over' kind of ending. Armin and Zeke had a nice little chat, Zeke let himself be sacrificed, etc.

Lowkey hoping Eren has another tactic now that Zeke is gone.

qguffey said:
None of the characters could possibly know how many survivors there currently are. It would just be their personal opinion...

For instance, when Hange judged how fast the titans were walking, but when they got to the ocean they began to swim (not walking on the ocean floor).

I doubt the percentage of survivors will play a role. Either the rumbling goes to completion or it doesn't. Which lead to the question: Who will be verifying that everyone else in the world is dead?

This is why I believe that the end will have nothing to do with whether or not the rumbling is completed.

It could be whether or not Eldians are free from the titan curse...

Lumiax said:
Eren being able to brake the chains can be explained through him having the founding titan so he does have more power in that realm.

qguffey said:


All that possessing the Found Titan has been shown to do is to be a requirement for getting access to PATHS.

Even with the founder, Eren tried to command Ymir and she did nothing for him until Eren convinced her to make her own choices.

Before Ymir was convinced by Eren to make her own decisions, Zeke should have realistically had complete control. Ymir built those chains based on Zeke's order.

There's no way Eren should have had the strength to overpower chains built by Ymir, at a time when she felt compelled to follow Zeke's orders...

Eren's ability to do that made no sense and it wasn't addressed by Isayama afterwards, yet for some reason the majority gave it a pass.

qguffey said:


All that possessing the Found Titan has been shown to do is to be a requirement for getting access to PATHS.

Even with the founder, Eren tried to command Ymir and she did nothing for him until Eren convinced her to make her own choices.

Before Ymir was convinced by Eren to make her own decisions, Zeke should have realistically had complete control. Ymir built those chains based on Zeke's order.

There's no way Eren should have had the strength to overpower chains built by Ymir, at a time when she felt compelled to follow Zeke's orders...

Eren's ability to do that made no sense and it wasn't addressed by Isayama afterwards, yet for some reason the majority gave it a pass.

qguffey said:


All that possessing the Found Titan has been shown to do is to be a requirement for getting access to PATHS.

Even with the founder, Eren tried to command Ymir and she did nothing for him until Eren convinced her to make her own choices.

Before Ymir was convinced by Eren to make her own decisions, Zeke should have realistically had complete control. Ymir built those chains based on Zeke's order.

There's no way Eren should have had the strength to overpower chains built by Ymir, at a time when she felt compelled to follow Zeke's orders...

Eren's ability to do that made no sense and it wasn't addressed by Isayama afterwards, yet for some reason the majority gave it a pass.

Vinicius234 said:
Because he didnt break the chains nor overpowered them, he litteraly rip his finger to pass through them, he made the space. Would it be realistic? Well i dont know, that would demand an absurd level of strenght, so probably not. Though, its on par with other feats we saw before. it doesnt break any internal rule of the lore pass the licences in physics i guess.

Vinicius234 said:
I was pointing the suspension of disbelief strech that a peace-alliance heroes- ending would carry... of course numbers wont matter as it certainly would. Most shonens arent really logical at their endings and isayama would be following every trope in this.case.
If the rumbling continues we likely wont have a world building epilogue either, it will be left in the air to our imagination after the you are free pannel.

Napok said:
So people have no problem with Eren dying while he was SLEEPING through the whole fight? lmao

I_Am_Freeballing said:
I can't believe people actually think this is over. Eren isn't dead ffs.

misthistoric said:
this chapter is nuts anyway where's eren's pov?

Makuro said:
Since the rumbling has stopped does that mean Zeke is actually dead now? hmm


That and Ymir's as well is what I've been waiting for the past several chapters. It might be in the ending, who knows.

hiphiphooray said:
I am quite confused what is that 3 titans at the end and who is standing there? is it armin?

Napok said:


That's normal, it's one hell of a confusing chapter overall. Those three Titans were: Grisha's, Bertholdt's, Ksaver's, and Krueger's with Armin standing in the middle so he can transform to blow up the founding titan.

huntress1013 said:
I stopped reading a while ago and only follow the board but if Eren does sacrifice himself and we get an ending like Lelouch or Dune Messiah...I think I can really live with such an ending. I was hoping for such an ending in the case of Harry Potter and was disspointed.

Adnash93 said:

I think yes, since it's been only several days since this chapter was released and there are several weeks before chapter 138 is released.