| This has been debatable for a long time. And on each end of the stick, there’s evidence of piracy helping the industry (and hurting it simultaneously). But the question is: how much? Is it 70% helpful and 30% detrimental? Or the other way round? Is piracy more helpful because of FREE exposure to millions of anime fans worldwide? Does that help with marketing so much so that it turns into cash along the way? And is that amount of money more than it would have been if it weren’t for piracy? |
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| anime has way too much exposure by now. but piracy still helps. by not paying censor happy agenda driven middlemen such as crunchyroll and funimation, you ensure that the west won't influence anime further. haha just kidding, there's no stopping anything now. piracy doesn't affect the industry at all anymore. pirates are a speck of dust compared to the masses who stream their anime. edit: what really hurts the anime industry are gatcha games. otaku spend their money on those instead of buying overpriced blurays. |
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| I don't think there's a real definitive answer when it comes to how helpful or detrimental piracy is to the industry. Getting money into the industry in and of itself is sort of a difficult topic, especially if you aren't spending that money in Japan directly. There's a lot of debate on how much money Japan sees when you purchase through Funimation, Sentai, Aniplex, Viz Media, etc. Because of the lack of hard evidence, some claim that they don't see any profit at all, so piracy is justified since the creators aren't receiving your money anyway. All we really know is that the licensors pay an upfront licensing fee for whatever the IP is. I believe Funimation has claimed that Japan does in fact see some profit from American/Worldwide purchases through licensors, but I'm not sure when and where this was stated, so don't hold me to this one. Piracy may also help with word of mouth and online buzz, which can also possibly help with profit, but it varies greatly from show to show and I doubt there are any definitive numbers to analyze that kind of metric. Japan gets a majority of its money from the otaku who buy multiple copies of the blu-rays, merchandise, attend events, etc. At the end of the day, I'm against piracy because I want the industry to succeed. So I try to order things directly from Japan, such as figures and other merchandise. And unless you can understand Japanese, most blu-rays are worthless to buy because they have no English subtitles. The biggest impact one could have on the industry is buying directly in Japan. |
| I don't really care about this topic but I get either side tbh We got people who pirate anime because legal sites don't have the entire anime and are always region locked. For that, they made an official youtube channel that will release old and new animes for people that just don't wanna pay money to watch anime or people who were complaining about their favorite anime not being on the streaming apps that they paid. And there are other ways to expose everyone to anime without piracy. The official youtube channel just like I mentioned, Crunchyroll, Netflix, Hulu, etch. These aren't perfect by all means, but these are the bare minimum way to support the anime industry. And normal people who aren't anime fans, usually have Netflix or other streaming apps, because they are normal people who pay for what they consume. Of course, there are other people who use unlimited free trial works or modded apps to bypass the money transaction. For your question, Yes. I'd say that piracy is killing the anime industry. Even the anime industry is taking down the illegal sites so they know that those websites are actually killing them. |
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| It’s helping it. My country has so little good anime available on the official streaming sites, even if I bought subscription the streaming sites locked most of the good stuff for my region so I will never be able to enjoy it as much. Pirating just helps spread popularity and there is nothing wrong with that. |
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| Thanks to all of you for such a informative answers. I highly appreciated it. |
QuiteAshrafFeb 3, 2021 11:49 PM
“𝑻𝒉𝒆 𝒕𝒊𝒄𝒌𝒆𝒕 𝒕𝒐 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒇𝒖𝒕𝒖𝒓𝒆 𝒊𝒔 𝒂𝒍𝒘𝒂𝒚𝒔 𝒐𝒑𝒆𝒏.” – 𝑽𝒂𝒔𝒉 𝑻𝒉𝒆 𝑺𝒕𝒂𝒎𝒑𝒆𝒅𝒆 :¨·.·¨: ─────────`·. বাংলাদেশী ★°*ﾟ |
| Back when the only real means of watching newer or lesser known anime was through fansubs I would’ve said pirating is a good thing. Nowadays, whilst I certainly don’t think it’s killing the industry it’s not exactly helping either. It’s in a solid gray zone as of current. |
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| I don't know about piracy helping the anime industry or not but it's helping the audience a lot. There are lot of countries were official website like crunchyroll and funimation aren't available or anime series don't get broad casted in tv and there anime watchers who are quite young and there parents probably not going spent money for them to watch anime so piracy is the only option for them to watch. |
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| Websites/apps like crunchyroll and funimation are region/country locked so it becomes impossible to watch the legal way. Or if its not locked not everything is available due to the region someone lives in.. forcing them to either buy expensive DVDs/blu-ray (and not everything is sunbed or dubbed so that makes it a pain) or to indeed pirate online. I think if they were able to lift those region bans more people would be willing to subscribe. |
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QuiteAshraf said: This has been debatable for a long time. And on each end of the stick, there’s evidence of piracy helping the industry (and hurting it simultaneously). But the question is: how much? Is it 70% helpful and 30% detrimental? Or the other way round? Is piracy more helpful because of FREE exposure to millions of anime fans worldwide? Does that help with marketing so much so that it turns into cash along the way? And is that amount of money more than it would have been if it weren’t for piracy? Piracy is good fuck everyone who tries to tell me I can’t pirate anime you’re dumb and weird. |
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| The truth is somewhere between. I don't believe that all those popular western profiteering companies do much help to Japanese anime industry. |
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| well, according to that animenews article, anime profits keep increasing, so piracy cant be killing it that much https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2020-11-22/anime-industry-rose-15-percent-in-2019-to-2.51-trillion-yen/.166579 |
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| Ahoy! I think piracy was always important for anime exposure. Most of us wouldn't have started watching anime whitout it Professionnal websites like funimation and crunchyroll look so ugly and inefficient compared to pirate websites. Like seriously, masteranime and 9 anime just look better compared to them. Of course, you still have to use an adblocker to escape all the hentai games and granny porn, but once you do, it's just so clean and beautiful. They even have the bright idea to have dark mode by default. At this point, why would you even lose your money on a monthly subscription for something worse when can have all the content in the world for free. And I don't think paying for this kind of services helps the creators. If you really want to support them, buy the dvds. It's better spent money and you can be sure it really supports the creators. Services like funimation also deserves to be shitted on for changing subtitles to fit their agenda. It's like they don't understand the point of translating. Even awful fan sub didn't commit this heresy. So yeah, thanks piracy !  |
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| Both killing n helping Maybe we can free legally a few seasonal anime from youtube but how about old / classic anime ? So yeah that also include dilemma as human who try to obey on law system |
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| While piracy may deprive the industry it makes people fan of anime or fans of a specific anime which could then go on to support it through other means |
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| Depends on if you mean killing the pay of the people making anime or killing the quality of the shows we get. Piracy will always kill the income of the employees actually making the show, but it can lead to people buying merch and such. Paying for it via Crunchyroll or Funimation, or even Netflix now (though their payments are all done in advance) gives the studios their fair due. It does, unfortunately, often lead to things like the Crunchyroll Originals, all of which were terrible. I try to pay for what I watch whenever possible, but sometimes (like with some movies) they just never release over here. In those cases, I say pirate away. Manga I will never pirate, though, because that one really hurts the authors. Also, holding a physical copy is the only way to enjoy it for me. (I say all of this as someone who does not live in Japan and has no actual ties to the industry, so take it all with a grain of salt*) Also, anyone that defends piracy fully and says it's best for the industry without looking at all sides are just trying to justify their behavior, nothing more. I work very closely with the games industry, and while it's quite different to anime, piracy is crippling there too. |
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| Piracy really helps to make anime popular. Almost all of the anime fans in Latin America, South East Asia and Africa watch pirated anime sube a blue ray disc can cost as much a monthly salary or a significant portion of it so if it became impossible to pirate anime all those millions of fans would have no way to afford to watch it legally so the industry will lose a lot of popularity and would not gain a single cent. Not only that but lots of fans pay to watch anime because it is a popular activity, if suddenly the industry loses 90% of it's fan base then los of passing users would stop paying since it would not be popular anymore and they would have o one to talk about it. |
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| Even as an American I think there's a case to be made that piracy helps. Sony is growing a monopoly and there is no other competition except pirates. |
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| To be honest piracy is the reason I'm still into anime. I'm old enough and live in a country where piracy was the only way to access a good 90% of anime at the time. |
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| The best way to help the industry is by buying official merchandising and DVDs, manga & novels. I always pirate anime as I want full access to every show, but I do also show my support by purchasing manga. Spending $300-400 on manga is significantly more supportive than buying streaming subscriptions, which more or less lines the pockets of multi-billion dollar companies rather than the actual anime studios and authors. The only case you can make against pirating is that of morality, which I don't give a shit about. |
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