Do you want to be childfree so bad that you'll mess up your perfectly working organs just to prevent it from happening?
Thoughts on tubal ligation or vasectomy?
| I don't plan on having a child in the future, and having a tubal ligation done on me will be like the best decision that I'll have for myself. Here in my country, there is a government organization which offers it for free, so there should be no problem with the cost. However, further reading suggests that there will be post-surgery pain and sometimes might even have a long-term effect on your reproductive system and whatnot. I'm this close to booking myself an appointment lol. P.S. Read poll. |
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| what the cool kids say nowadays? your body your choice? i don't think it's necessary if you are careful enough, although I don't know anything about your and your countries habits and traditions |
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| I mean, couldn't you just take contraception. |
| I've been here way too long... |
TheConquerer said: I mean, couldn't you just take contraception. You can, but unlike other methods, ligation is permanent and has 99% success rate. Plus you only have to do it once in your life. There is another procedure called IUD (for woman) but only lasts for 5 to 10 years. |
もろともに 哀れと思へ 山桜 花より外に 知る人もなし. On a mountain slope, Solitary, uncompanioned, Stands a cherry tree. Except for you, lonely friend, To others I am unknown. |
| I don't intend to ever have sex with anybody so I don't have to worry about getting pregnant (unless the worst case scenario happens - rape). Tubal ligation doesn't stop periods so there's no point in getting it done for me at least. I had been to a gynecologist and she told me that all of these procedures have after effects that could even last for the rest of your life. It's best if you do thorough research and weigh your options before getting any anything done. |
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| u don't need 2 b afraid of pregnancy as woman or daddy who has 2 pay money 4 a little rat u don't like or if u simply hate children at all 2 do so. if ur smart enough and truly love kids u won't give birth at all in 2 a world corrupted like this 1. or use ur brain while netflix and chill. ever heard bout protection? |
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| I don't like to use this word unironically, but it's lowkey degenerate af to get surgery just because you want raw dick daily. |
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Maou_heika said: I don't intend to ever have sex with anybody so I don't have to worry about getting pregnant (unless the worst case scenario happens - rape). Tubal ligation doesn't stop periods so there's no point in getting it done for me at least. I had been to a gynecologist and she told me that all of these procedures have after effects that could even last for the rest of your life. It's best if you do thorough research and weigh your options before getting any anything done. Thanks for your input, will research a bit more about it. Kaasfondue said: I don't like to use this word unironically, but it's lowkey degenerate af to get surgery just because you want raw dick daily. Well, I don't really think of it as a degen thing, unless there are plenty of dicks involved. |
もろともに 哀れと思へ 山桜 花より外に 知る人もなし. On a mountain slope, Solitary, uncompanioned, Stands a cherry tree. Except for you, lonely friend, To others I am unknown. |
| I do not want kids yet in my mid 20s though I may want some in my 40s so I would not get any operation done. I am a male who never initiates dates or sex so operations would have no meaning to me. |
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Poulain said: TheConquerer said: I mean, couldn't you just take contraception. You can, but unlike other methods, ligation is permanent and has 99% success rate. Plus you only have to do it once in your life. There is another procedure called IUD (for woman) but only lasts for 5 to 10 years. What age are you? Even if you don't have plans now, it is an irreversible surgery and that is serious enough to warrant putting it off if there are simple solutions like contraception. |
| I've been here way too long... |
| Oh hi there fellow countrybruh, (on topic) if you don't want any children, then don't fuck lmao, that's the purpose of fucking. If you want to, then use contraception like everyone will say, "but 99%" well that vs long term effects. This is the problem when you misuse shit lmao, (for example) eating is used for survival, now it's practically used for pleasure, which breeds all sorts of health hazard, overall don't mess up your body bruh. |
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| hmm If I dont want a kid I merely just don't do any sex, it's super ultra easy not to do any sexual intercourse at least here, no need to do surgery or contraception. |
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TheConquerer said: Poulain said: You can, but unlike other methods, ligation is permanent and has 99% success rate. Plus you only have to do it once in your life. There is another procedure called IUD (for woman) but only lasts for 5 to 10 years. What age are you? Even if you don't have plans now, it is an irreversible surgery and that is serious enough to warrant putting it off if there are simple solutions like contraception. She made her account here in 2007, so she's probably in her 30/40s. So if she's thinking about "child free" shit and surgery at this point, there's no changing stances down the line for her, so the only hazard here is the long term effects, which is so and so. |
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operationvalkyri said: 2shizukasensei88 said: Never guess a woman's age. It'll get you into trouble.She made her account here in 2007, so she's probably in her 30/40s. So if she's thinking about "child free" shit and surgery at this point, there's no changing stances down the line for her, so the only hazard here is the long term effects, which is so and so. It's my favorite extreme sports behind using MAL, go figure. |
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| I don't ever want to get a vasectomy, but I don't plan on having sex with anyone, anyway. I hate children, and I would never have or raise one, ever. |
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| Why don't you just use protect when you have sex? Not going through all that nonsense? You don't want kids now but the future can change your mind set. |
| Keep in mind that you don't intend to have a child in the future now. This might change in a few years. You never know. You can have a change of heart or the potential love of your life may leave you because he absolutely wants children. Then you are going to hate yourself that for the sake of convenience in your younger years you decided to do this. I can understand the use of these "final" infertility solutions in such cases where you already have a lot of children or you know that you have some severe hereditary diseases but if you are healthy and have no children it would be better to consider other less "final" contraceptives. I considered a vasectomy for some time but decided against it since the reversal procedure hasn't really a guaranteed success chance and some days I want to have my own kids. |
| im pro-choice so ye its your choice to make madam |
| Just do whatever you want man, it's your body. As for myself, I don't plan on having kids anytime soon. Not for the next 10 years. |
| There isn’t a wrong or right decision for this so you should do what you feel is best for you. |
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| I don't think I'll want kids but idk maybe I will in the future so I wouldn't do something to stop it. But people who can know they never want kids should ofc be able to. Women aren't baby machines |
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| I don't want kids. I don't want to lose my freedom. Also I am not sure I am mature enough to have children. |
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| I think they’re great options for people who never want children or are done having children. The real problem is how hard it is for some women to convince their doctors they want tubal ligation, at least in North America. “You have to have x amount of children first, your husband must sign consent, you’re too young to make that decision, have a child and come back to see me” Meanwhile access to vasectomies isn’t gatekeeping (at least not from what I see) or full of loaded questions about guilt. I don’t want kids and I can guarantee you it’ll be very hard for me to find a doctor who’ll do it since I’m in my early 20s. Good thing my fiancé is willing to get a vasectomy. |
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| I mean your body your choice, but people´s opinions change often so that´s a decision you may regret later (or not ) |
| "If I get reincarnated… I wanna become a clam.” – Monkey D Luffy |
| No that seems horrible just wear a condom or the pill. Chances of pregnancy are next to 0. |
| I think there are other and much smarter ways to avoid having children. Who knows what might happen in your life that might make you change your mind? I thought I was a lesbian and never wanted kids up until 2 years ago where I randomly fell in love with a man. Now I suddenly want kids. Life is unpredictable, so it's best to keep all your options open. But I still respect people if they do decide to go through with such a surgery. |
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2shizukasensei88 said: operationvalkyri said: Never guess a woman's age. It'll get you into trouble. It's my favorite extreme sports behind using MAL, go figure. I made my account here when I was 12, so that makes me in my mid 20's right now lol. It is reversible but I assume it also comes with even more side effects. Tharja said: “You have to have x amount of children first, your husband must sign consent, you’re too young to make that decision, have a child and come back to see me” Yeah, we also have such doctors / hospitals here, which is an unfortunate thing because it might discourage some women. Murrin said: The ironic reason I've been so unsure about it is, I am the type of person who is extremely hesitant to make permanent decisions of any kind. It's ironic because, obviously, having a kid (whether on purpose or on accident) is a permanent decision. I agree, permanent decisions are indeed scary. People say that I may change my mind in the years to come, and they're not exactly wrong. However, right now I am firm on being childless, and if in case I do change my mind, I have the option to adopt. I appreciate the responses, most of which are actually insightful rather than judgmental. :-) I'll make further research for now and perhaps I'll update this thread. |
もろともに 哀れと思へ 山桜 花より外に 知る人もなし. On a mountain slope, Solitary, uncompanioned, Stands a cherry tree. Except for you, lonely friend, To others I am unknown. |
Poulain said: I made my account here when I was 12, so that makes me in my mid 20's right now lol. It is reversible but I assume it also comes with even more side effects. Tharja said: “You have to have x amount of children first, your husband must sign consent, you’re too young to make that decision, have a child and come back to see me” Yeah, we also have such doctors / hospitals here, which is an unfortunate thing because it might discourage some women. Murrin said: The ironic reason I've been so unsure about it is, I am the type of person who is extremely hesitant to make permanent decisions of any kind. It's ironic because, obviously, having a kid (whether on purpose or on accident) is a permanent decision. I agree, permanent decisions are indeed scary. People say that I may change my mind in the years to come, and they're not exactly wrong. However, right now I am firm on being childless, and if in case I do change my mind, I have the option to adopt. I appreciate the responses, most of which are actually insightful rather than judgmental. :-) I'll make further research for now and perhaps I'll update this thread. Same, I made my account when I was 12 also, didn't expect you to make yours that young, I expected you to at least be 16+ or something, and that's how I got the 30/40 hypothesis, I also try to factor that you have access to a PC and Internet in 2007 in the Philippines, late 2000s were dark times lmao, so I assumed that you work or in college already at the point you made your account for some reason, I guess I'm just a peasant lower middle class lol |
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2shizukasensei88 said: Same, I made my account when I was 12 also, didn't expect you to make yours that young, I expected you to at least be 16+ or something, and that's how I got the 30/40 hypothesis, I also try to factor that you have access to a PC and Internet in 2007 in the Philippines, late 2000s were dark times lmao, so I assumed that you work or in college already at the point you made your account for some reason, I guess I'm just a peasant lower middle class lol I understand where you're coming from. Just to let you know though, there are computer classes already when I was in 4th grade (2005), at least where I studied, and there are internet cafes as well. But not many people has access to it like how it is today, so your assumption is totally understandable. Now I feel old for some reason, but in a good, reminiscent way. |
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Poulain said: 2shizukasensei88 said: Same, I made my account when I was 12 also, didn't expect you to make yours that young, I expected you to at least be 16+ or something, and that's how I got the 30/40 hypothesis, I also try to factor that you have access to a PC and Internet in 2007 in the Philippines, late 2000s were dark times lmao, so I assumed that you work or in college already at the point you made your account for some reason, I guess I'm just a peasant lower middle class lol I understand where you're coming from. Just to let you know though, there are computer classes already when I was in 4th grade (2005), at least where I studied, and there are internet cafes as well. But not many people has access to it like how it is today, so your assumption is totally understandable. Now I feel old for some reason, but in a good, reminiscent way. Hmm, interesting. Also started having Computer Classes at 4th Grade, mostly just the speed typing and computer parts. So I started having internet access at 2014, which I mostly watched so much YouTube cringe. I also feel old in a good reminiscent way, which is weird, because I'm practically still a child lol. Anyways don't make decisions so hasty, I know it's a cliche thing to say, because it's gonna be a bruh moment. |
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| That reminds me that once a friend asked me why I have not gotten a tubal ligation yet (Since I say so many dark jokes about babies and kids) Lol I actually do want to have kids, I simply have not found the right partner yet. As for people asking why to do that, the answer is simple: sex without a condom feels so much better, so if you have a partner you can trust (Regarding STDs) and who also doesn't want any kids and all, I don't see the issue with getting operated to spend a good time with them without any worry. |
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rafacanto01 said: I dont get why would u even discuss that HAHAHAH First of all, this surgery can be reversed, so theres no sense on only allowing ppl that already have kids to do it. The procedure was originally intended for (1) mothers who can't have additional pregnancies due to dangers it will bring to their bodies and (2) to prevent future children in order maintain the current size of a family due to socio-economic reasons and whatnot. Thus, medical people/organization, at least those that are not open-minded and/or are traditional, would think that it doesn't make sense for women to undergo surgery if she does not meet one of two conditions aforementioned. Also, the reversal is not as simple as you would think, because it is categorized as a major surgery and it has even more potential post-surgery side effects. rafacanto01 said: If u r married or in a serious relationship w someone and u wanna have sex without condom, but at the same time u dont wanna take the pill cuz thats horrible for ur body, and u r sure u dont wanna have kids, then whats the problem? It makes perfect sense for me why someone would do that As stated, my dilemma is if the post-surgery pain is worth it. I just created to thread because I'm curious as to what other people think of the subject. Also to find out if others have been in a similar situation or has considered doing it too, because so far I have never met someone in real life who does. |
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